QueenZone discussion #1152709
Queen + Paul Rodgers = Over
| Headlong24 26.11.2008 13:53 |
Ok who here gets the feeling that this partnership is going to be over very soon? I mean it was a great run, and I was lucky enough to see them 6 times but I think the partnership has run it's course. They did 2 tours, a live record and a new studio album, where else can they possible take it. It's a shame I love Paul Rodgers but I really think he hinders Queen's back catalog and song selection. On the other hand I do see Paul Rodgers getting the short hand of the stick as well with them playing only one or two of his songs per show. I just think both side have realized that the partnership has run it's course. You might see a few more big gigs being booked but I would'nt expect anything more from Queen + Paul Rodgers. |
| GT 26.11.2008 14:17 |
I have to disagree. I think they can go on as long as they feel the music is working, and going by The Cosmos Rocks album, I think they have a lot more to offer. If any other recordings are as good as that album then bring it on. They might take a break, and that could be for a while, but I get the impression that they would want to work together again. They seem very happy on stage and in interviews, considering the gruelling nature of this tour. I really hope so anyway. I think Paul is the best thing since, well, Freddie Mercury. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 26.11.2008 14:41 |
What you expected?20 Paul songs per show?it's not a Bad Company tour it's QUEEN +. The show in Velez was excellent but the people clearly got bored during Paul songs especially Seagull take into acccount that MANY people are MAINLY going to the concerts to listen and watching Brian and Roger. |
| boca 26.11.2008 15:18 |
...and thank god it's going to be finished. brian and roger can go on without him. |
| alex_unbreakable 26.11.2008 16:05 |
No, no and no. That's just talking without knowing nothing at all. We just don't know what will happen. Anyway, I hope they will go on. QUEEN + Paul Rodgers rock! (Be positive!) |
| Marcos Napier 26.11.2008 16:09 |
boca wrote: ...and thank god it's going to be finished. brian and roger can go on without him. They have the right to continue blah blah blah but it's time to go to bed. From the bored faces of them all in an interview today for the brazilian Terra portal (link won't work outside Brazil or I'd post it), they seem to be or very bored or about to kill each other. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 26.11.2008 17:06 |
Or very tired,remember that they are in their 60's. |
| Olly 1988 26.11.2008 19:21 |
Or they are bored of answering the questions, 'What would Freddie have made of this?' and 'Where is John Deacon?' |
| Ken8 26.11.2008 20:08 |
"Or they are bored of answering the questions, 'What would Freddie have made of this?' and 'Where is John Deacon?'" They couldn't be that naive not to expect those questions. They've only invited them even more so by carrying on the name "Queen" |
| Marcos Napier 26.11.2008 20:11 |
"Freddie is still with us" (actual quote of Brian in this interview) NO HE'S NOT. |
| Marcelo_argentina 26.11.2008 20:52 |
Oh yes He IS!!! |
| Marcos Napier 26.11.2008 22:00 |
In your wet (and TM's) dreams. |
| Saint Jiub 27.11.2008 01:08 |
Paul has to be getting tired of being an unappreciated, 2nd fiddle, red-headed stepchild. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 27.11.2008 04:10 |
It is coming up to panto season after all! I hope its over......I would rather hear new solo material if im honest. |
| Togg 27.11.2008 04:57 |
I highly doubt this will be it, they have done a huge tour which has done well and pulled in millions, the album has sold OK, not great but certainly up there with many of Queens previous outings, hot space, jazz etc However, the main reason is that they all still like working and will want to continue until the desire to perform stops dragging them back At 60 they will all realise this is coming to and end soon, and I highly doubt they will stop now, I will bet the ranch that in a couple of years we will be hearing new material and seeing another tour. Amen to that... A lot of the naysayers on this board talk about a bad feeling between the band on stage and off...sorry but that is pure nonesense... You should have seen them in the Freddie days... talk about fighting with eachother, this is a walk in the park compared to that. Freddie would have actual fights with band members, they would scream and shout at eachother, Brian and Roger were constantly fighting These days all that has gone, Roger and Brian are best friends, Paul gets on well with both of them and from what I hear he has really enjoyed this tour and partnership. There were times back in the day when you would turn up at a gig and be thinking will Freddie even show up on stage' My feeling is they will break for a while but keep plans open to do more in a year or so. |
| gnomo 27.11.2008 05:04 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: I would rather hear new solo material if im honest. There will NEVER be any new solo material from Brian or Roger, because it won't be commercially profitable, so no record company will publish and support it. Just look at what half-hearted microscopic support TCR has gotten, despite the Queen name on it!!! Paul is the only one with a continuing solo career. |
| gnomo 27.11.2008 05:10 |
Togg wrote: A lot of the naysayers on this board talk about a bad feeling between the band on stage and off...sorry but that is pure nonesense... There has actually been an extremely rough time among them, but they eventually got past it, and they all now seem to be getting along pretty well. If that will result in more new music, and when, is still to be seen... |
| Togg 27.11.2008 06:25 |
gnomo wrote:Togg wrote: A lot of the naysayers on this board talk about a bad feeling between the band on stage and off...sorry but that is pure nonesense...There has actually been an extremely rough time among them, but they eventually got past it, and they all now seem to be getting along pretty well. If that will result in more new music, and when, is still to be seen... Sorry, but that is pure speculation... what evidence have you got other than folk on here saying so based on the fact Paul hasn't signed there album or Brian walk past without smiling. Unless you have been backstage with the Band and witnessed an argument or they have discussed it in an interview it is nothing but spectulation. |
| gnomo 27.11.2008 06:56 |
Togg wrote: Sorry, but that is pure speculation... (...) Unless you have been backstage with the Band and witnessed an argument I can't possibly have witnessed an argument because, as always, they still carefully keep all their arguments behind closed doors. Rumours. |
| mr.teatime 6803 27.11.2008 06:59 |
Indeed I too would like to hear any evidence you have for these bust ups beyond 'I heard this rumour from some guy somewhere'. Do you have any details? |
| Jjeroen 27.11.2008 08:00 |
What more proof do you want? If you don't believe people -that are considered credible by most of the community because they have proved to be that for the past years and years- tell from their own experience? For instance when they have talked to Brian on occasions during the last tour... Interview?? Come on - that's pretty ignorant. Of course they would NEVER take any issues to the press! |
| gnomo 27.11.2008 08:07 |
Wait a moment, it looks like my English is worse than usual today... :-P I was talking about the OTHER tour. I didn't hear anything about this one, and I was indeed AGREEING that they seem to be getting along very well now. |
| pow wow 27.11.2008 08:29 |
Of course they're going to argue and fall out, it's what most bands do. You've got three fella's around 60 who are set in their ways pulling in different directions. It's impossible for them to agree on everything. The question is do they feel it's worth the angst? On a live level IMO it certainly is, but on a recording level I feel they've still got it all to prove. I think it's a positive thing they're having fall outs here and there, at least it shows they've still got a little bit of passion left in them. Will they record and tour again together? I hope so, but I bet they dont even know the answer to that yet. |
| queentel 27.11.2008 08:37 |
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| Marcos Napier 27.11.2008 09:02 |
Togg wrote:Same kind of speculation as in this, I suppose?gnomo wrote:Sorry, but that is pure speculation... what evidence have you got other than folk on here saying so based on the fact Paul hasn't signed there album or Brian walk past without smiling. Unless you have been backstage with the Band and witnessed an argument or they have discussed it in an interview it is nothing but spectulation.Togg wrote: A lot of the naysayers on this board talk about a bad feeling between the band on stage and off...sorry but that is pure nonesense...There has actually been an extremely rough time among them, but they eventually got past it, and they all now seem to be getting along pretty well. If that will result in more new music, and when, is still to be seen... These days all that has gone, Roger and Brian are best friends, Paul gets on well with both of them and from what I hear he has really enjoyed this tour and partnership. There were times back in the day when you would turn up at a gig and be thinking will Freddie even show up on stage' [wikipedia mode on]Citation needed.[/wikipedia mode off] |
| Togg 27.11.2008 09:20 |
Well, there you have it in a nutshell.... |
| Zodiacal_light 27.11.2008 16:10 |
My tuppence worth. Although i'd love it to continue, i think they're a great combination, i have a feeling it will now be over |
| kosimodo 27.11.2008 16:20 |
Offcourse was Paul no Freddie... It was, for me, fun. Saw real great shows! But..... I really would love to see those queen songs Paul simply cant do live.. They getting older,the stadium stuff like WWRY we have heard.. What i want now is songs like GOFL, MMB or SM played live. They should hire a real series of singers and musicians and play those songs. Would be fun to hear Brian play those guitarsolos, just as we liked Bijou so much. So i do hope Brian and Roger continue to play, but now a different tune.. Their music is to good not to be played. But paul is not the person for that job. So a big thx to Paul and welcome to.....??? |
| last-horizon 42265 27.11.2008 19:08 |
They could easily go on their own if they'd wanted to. After all, they have already sang lead vocals on all the songs included in the set list (mostly on solo tours), except for AOBTD & CLTLC and of course the new TCR tunes. Let's take the most recent show (SP) as a reference: HAMMER TO FALL Short Version - B TIE YOUR MOTHER DOWN - B FAT BOTTOM GIRLS - B ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST - I think that Roger could sing this pretty well I WANT IT ALL - B BREAK FREE - R LOVE OF MY LIFE - B 39 - B I’M IN LOVE WITH MY CAR - R IT’S A KIND OF MAGIC - R SAY ITS NOT TRUE - R/B GUITAR SOLO BIJOU - F LAST HORIZON UNDER PRESSURE - R/B RADIO GAGA - R CRAZY LITTLE THING - ??? -> they could probably include NIH or Headlong sang by B here... SHOW MUST GO ON - B/R BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY - F/B WWRY - B/R (Remember R&R HoF 2001?) WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS - B/R (WoF 2002) GOD SAVE THE QUEEN It's not something impossible to happen... |
| Negative Creep 28.11.2008 12:50 |
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| Negative Creep 28.11.2008 12:52 |
gnomo wrote: There will NEVER be any new solo material from Brian or Roger, because it won't be commercially profitable, so no record company will publish and support it. Just look at what half-hearted microscopic support TCR has gotten, despite the Queen name on it!!! Paul is the only one with a continuing solo career. Utter nonsense. Neither Brian or Roger would have any problem getting solo material out. In fact, off the back of the recent "Queen" activity, any solo work would probably perform better than they did in the late 90's. I seriously doubt Paul Rodgers as a solo artist sold even the same amount that any of the previous Brian/Roger albums did. The amount of idiots on this forum who think anyone who sells less than a Queen greatest hits collection either can't release records or make a loss on everything they release is hilarious. Regarding Q+PR - I would expect more gigs. I certainly wouldn't expect a follow up record, based on what they have released and the reaction (or lack of) to it. |
| gnomo 28.11.2008 13:10 |
Negative Creep wrote: Neither Brian or Roger would have any problem getting solo material out. (...) The amount of idiots on this forum... ... pity "I'm no gambling man" - I would bet a sixpence ... And I'd actually be very happy to lose and be proved wrong, because I do like their solo works - but I am trying to be realistic, and not mistake my wishes and hopes for real chances of things happening. However, of course, we're each fully entitled to our individual opinions, in the absence of "official" statements or figures or other "hard data" on the matter. So: good luck, you intelligent and polite one! Oh, and of course I apologise for omitting my usual "IMVHO & FWLIW & NOM" from my previous post - I should add it to my signature... |
| April 28.11.2008 16:58 |
Marcos Napier wrote: "Freddie is still with us" (actual quote of Brian in this interview) NO HE'S NOT. Yes, Freddie is with them. In the songs, in the spirit and on the screen. Brian himself admitted it! And he knows better than any of us. Cause he's an insider... |
| Marcos Napier 29.11.2008 13:30 |
In spirit and screen I must agree. But in the songs? Unless I am missing something and can't see him on stage in the middle of the smoke as some did. |
| April 29.11.2008 17:26 |
As long as they sing old songs, Freddie's songs and remember him at every concert! I would love them to write a Freddie song. But is it possible? It would be imitation, and in fact they needn't do it...So he's there with them. |
| Marcos Napier 29.11.2008 18:04 |
Hopefully in about 3 hours from now it will be all over. |
| justys2 30.11.2008 07:30 |
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| justys2 30.11.2008 07:56 |
Marcos Napier wrote: Hopefully in about 3 hours from now it will be all over. I still can't get why some people can't understand that there are a lot of people that love QPR...and you know even if I don't like some of the bands i don't wish them to stop or finish their projects just becouse I don't like them...I just don't listen to them...but I understand that there are people who go to the concerts and it's ok...they like it I dont't like and it's all right...Can't you see that QPR brought so many great moments to their fans...emotions...joy during their tours? I attended one QPR concert (I wish I could go to more concerts) and it was definitely one of the greatest moments in my life...And there are really an awful lot of peolpe who can say the same thing...If you look at the audience during QPR concerts...you can see a lot of smiles..pure joy...most people are really happy...sometimes they are also moved to tears...so is it bad? Why the hell do you want QPR to finish this...? As long as they bring so much joy to the audience and they want to continue they should do it without any doubt! If you don't like it just stay away. It's that easy can't you see? Just stop being so selfish...look what response did the band get recently... in Argentina...it was amazing. And hopefully we will see more moments like this. And ok I understand that some people just don't want the others to be happy...some selfish people like you...and I hope maybe some day you will undestand that you are not the most importatnt person in the world...and that some people had to wait for so long to finally see their favourite musicans on stage...and if there hadn't been QPR project it wouldn't have happend... I hope QPR will not finish at this point...and when I look at them they seem to have a lot of fan on stage and so does the audience...anyway nobody knows what will happen...neither Brian Roger and Paul can say for sure what will happen with this project within next few years...so all we can do is wait...and wish them all the best...anyway I somehow get the feeling that we will see the next European tour again one day...:) But if their decide to finish it's ok...all I can say is big thank you to them for what they've done in the last 3-4 years...and I will cherish the memory of the concert I've attended and tell my children this story one day...so do you still think that QPR is so bad? |
| Marcos Napier 30.11.2008 10:51 |
Saying that one person (I'm avoiding the word "fan" here as much as possible) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (the majority? The minority?) is as stupid and rude as my own comments (according to your oppinion). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. This is what is sickening here - the ability to let people DISAGREE and not be like sheeps that is always lacking among the QPR worshippers, that seem to be even more hardcore and ass-licking fans than those Freddie widows. It's nobody's job to prove which of the "Queens" is better. It would just be nice if we could say "I don't like it". I know this feeling of "joy" everyone (or those who like QPR at least) feels: it's nostalgia. I won't explain why I wish it's over, the resulting stone throwing party is too much for me. To resume it in a simple word (which I think is the same feeling of some people that didn't like the whole QPR stuff), I found it "embarassing", to be fair and not rude and to avoid offending sensitive fans even more. The problem is that I say it with an open chest, while others are afraid to do the same because of the fear of not being considered as "fans" anymore. BTW, the concert in Rio (where they played for one of their biggest audiences ever, if not the biggest - Knebworth probably beat it) wasn't sold out. Yes, blame it on the economical crisis and the outrageous prices of the tickets, not on the band or even Freddie. |
| justys 30.11.2008 11:39 |
It's not nostalgia. You know what? I didn't have this feeling during their concert...how do you know what other people feel? Did you attend the concert? And even if you went to the concert you can't say what other people felt at all...And embarassing? What is embarassing for you...that they decided to go on tour with Paul and perform the old songs with him? And the new material. They are great musicans so I can't see anything embarassing...Brian's playing or Roger's drumming? Or Paul's voice? Is it really that embarassing? And I understand pretty well that somebody doesn't like/hate/ can't listen to QPR...but there's a huge difference between saying that you don't like something and wishing that it will finish soon...sorry but for me it is egoistic becouse it's still your point of view that has to be the best...if' it's over a lot of people wouldn't be happy...but it's good for you because you don't like it yes? It's not good for other people but you don't care...and you still say it's not egoistic?...And by the way it's a waste of time really...and i don't want to argue...and convince someone to like Queen and PR. Actually I'm far away from doing this...It's a pity you can't understand it.... |
| Peta 30.11.2008 12:18 |
I totally agree with you, justys2, justys.:-)) |
| Saint Jiub 30.11.2008 12:24 |
Marcos Napier wrote: Saying that one person (I'm avoiding the word "fan" here as much as possible) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (the majority? The minority?) is as stupid and rude as my own comments (according to your oppinion). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. This is what is sickening here - the ability to let people DISAGREE and not be like sheeps that is always lacking among the QPR worshippers, that seem to be even more hardcore and ass-licking fans than those Freddie widows. It's nobody's job to prove which of the "Queens" is better. It would just be nice if we could say "I don't like it". I know this feeling of "joy" everyone (or those who like QPR at least) feels: it's nostalgia. I won't explain why I wish it's over, the resulting stone throwing party is too much for me. To resume it in a simple word (which I think is the same feeling of some people that didn't like the whole QPR stuff), I found it "embarassing", to be fair and not rude and to avoid offending sensitive fans even more. The problem is that I say it with an open chest, while others are afraid to do the same because of the fear of not being considered as "fans" anymore. BTW, the concert in Rio (where they played for one of their biggest audiences ever, if not the biggest - Knebworth probably beat it) wasn't sold out. Yes, blame it on the economical crisis and the outrageous prices of the tickets, not on the band or even Freddie. Great Post |
| Marcos Napier 30.11.2008 12:47 |
And I understand pretty well that somebody doesn't like/hate/ can't listen to QPR...but there's a huge difference between saying that you don't like something and wishing that it will finish soon...sorry but for me it is egoistic becouse it's still your point of view that has to be the best... And isn't it egoistic too to say that they must continue just because Freddie said that "the show must go on" [sic]? If they want to continue, it's their right to do so (and the attempts on that are starting to get countless by now) and there's nothing we (or I) can do about it. But I wish it wouldn't even happened in the first place, and it's my right to do so, egoistic/selfish or not (I see you still have difficulties to understand the meaning of egoism). I didn't say quitting is the right thing for them to do - I'm not Brian's or Roger's dad or consultant or whatever. I just wish they did, though. To me, as many have said, it's not a pure Paul's bashing as some think. I had never heard his work before and I was amazed by some of Free songs. It's the whole mix that looks and sounds sour and bizarre ("the cap just didn't fit"). If a band has to abandon some of its biggest classics (or you think they will play STL or Killer Queen ever again with this lineup? And many others...) because of the current singer's vocal range... too bad. "OK, let's replace Paul with someone that can do a falsetto and has a softer voice, like George Michael/Mika/whatever, so we can hear these songs again". But... there goes all the rock songs. Face it, whomever gets this job, won't do it right (Freddie's fault!), and they probably have to start from scratch with a real new band - and it's too late I suppose. But they can't have a world tour just playing TCR songs, if they keep using that first part of their (new) band's name. I'd rather see Brian and Roger alone on the stage singing the songs as they can than all this stuff. |
| Holly2003 30.11.2008 14:32 |
I saw Queen in 1984 QPR in Cardiff in 2008. there's no real difference between Roger Taylor singing and playing drums on IILWMC at either concert. Am I nostagic? Not really because all I'm seeing is the same song sung by an older guy. I Want It All & Bijou: never performed by Queen live, so no nostalgia there. Furthermore, how can I be nostalgic for all the new QPR songs, which were among the highlights of the show? I've never heard any of Paul Rodger's songs live before so no nostagia there either. (They were great btw). As for 39 -- originally done on LP by Brian, so I would say novelty rather than nostalgia with that one. To be fair, there were one or two moments of nostalgia: Brian doing LOML (which brought a tear to the eye) or BoRap (which was shamelessly and openly harking back to the Freddie era). So what? Having a different opinion is fine but repeating the same negative crap in every thread is dull. We already know how much some of you hate QPR but unfortuantely for some that's pretty much all you have to say. To quote Vivian from the Young Ones, boring, boring, boring, boring boring. Change the record. |
| Marcos Napier 30.11.2008 16:35 |
What to say then, just say things to remember how Queen was good forever and ever? It gets boring too. QPR isn't a forbidden subject, but bad critics are? This is their new work and tour, and it's been discussed as if it was any other record released in the 70's or 80's if we had somewhere as public as a fan forum to express our thoughts. I wonder what would be the posts about HS if we had a forum in 1982... half of the team (maybe more, maybe less) - the hectics - would say it was a masterpiece while the heretics would just comment about the reality. What is interesting is that the so-called haters don't use names to identify the people that liked QPR, or at least not as often as these others do. |
| gnomo 01.12.2008 03:31 |
Marcos Napier wrote: Saying that one person (...) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (...). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. ... now let me see: whilst you define yourself a fan of theirs, you did not enjoy this project of THEIRS, so you wish it hadn't happened, and you are happy that it is over. Which is perfectly fine. In fact, despite "fan" being just an abbreviation for "fanatic", being a fan doesn't absolutely mean you have to give up your individual judgement, and the right to disagree with their choices, and the freedom to criticise their works you dislike. But, since you did not enjoy this project of THEIRS, you look down in disgust and disdain at them, and at all those who were happy with them, because YOU weren't happy. And you give no value or consideration whatsoever to the fact that THEY enjoyed it, and were happy that THEY made it happen, and made others happy through it, and might now be sad that it is over. Whilst you define yourself a fan of theirs. Now, I always thought egoism to mean ingrained carelessness about and disregard of others' ***feelings***. But, English not being my native language, my interpretation might well be SEMANTICALLY wrong. Would you please care to correct me if that was the case...? TIA |
| inu-liger 01.12.2008 04:16 |
gnomo wrote:Marcos Napier wrote: Saying that one person (...) is an egoist just because he/she disagrees with others (...). Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning.... now let me see: whilst you define yourself a fan of theirs, you did not enjoy this project of THEIRS, so you wish it hadn't happened, and you are happy that it is over. Which is perfectly fine. In fact, despite "fan" being just an abbreviation for "fanatic", being a fan doesn't absolutely mean you have to give up your individual judgement, and the right to disagree with their choices, and the freedom to criticise their works you dislike. But, since you did not enjoy this project of THEIRS, you look down in disgust and disdain at them, and at all those who were happy with them, because YOU weren't happy. And you give no value or consideration whatsoever to the fact that THEY enjoyed it, and were happy that THEY made it happen, and made others happy through it, and might now be sad that it is over. Whilst you define yourself a fan of theirs. Now, I always thought egoism to mean ingrained carelessness about and disregard of others' ***feelings***. But, English not being my native language, my interpretation might well be SEMANTICALLY wrong. Would you please care to correct me if that was the case...? TIA No, I think you nailed it. These trolls obviously only care about themselves, and totally disregard ANYONE that disagrees with them in the slightest on anything. Therefore, our feelings are hurt as a result of their childish actions, and we get very understandably upset and very defensive, as do those trolls with their own doctrine that continues on and on like a broken record that should've been thrown out the window *long ago*. These bastards are one of the reasons I don't frequent QZ much anymore these days. Nor QOL after seeing what lack of respect goes on over there even from their admins. I got BANNED by an admin, JLD, for demanding fairydandy, over and over, to explain his reasons for forcing his useless anti-QPR doctrine on us, and yet THAT little git hasn't been banned yet! I am profoundly confused by that. My account is still inactive even though JLP said it would be a week's ban. YEAH RIGHT. Little bastard. |
| Fone Bone 01.12.2008 05:43 |
All those die-hard QPR haters have just gone to the dark side of fandom : feeling entitled to say what is right or wrong about their favourite band. Which is ridiculous. But let us not dwell too much on them, it's too bad for THEM, they just missed the point. The point is that we got two largely successful and enjoyable tours ! Paul was never an obvious choice to sing Queen songs given his blues-rock background, but surely there were not many singers as capable and respectable as him on the market ... I've seen every major act in concert (Bowie, Stones, McCartney, Page&Plant, REM, Radiohead, Coldplay) and I can say unbiaisedly that the 2008 QPR Bercy gig was among the very best. During all those times bitching about the un-rolling setlist, waiting for downloads to be available, I surely tried to enjoy the whole thing as much as possible. The only real disappointment was the album, which wasn't on par with their talent and potential. Yet QPR has been the best time to be a Queen fan since Made In Heaven, and for that we should be grateful. I don't know what the future holds in store, but as our beloved Queen surviving members grow older and make increasingly rare appearances at WWRY parties, I know I'll miss the QPR days. Won't you? |
| Togg 01.12.2008 06:23 |
Amen |
| Marcos Napier 01.12.2008 09:30 |
See? "You don't like QPR, therefore you aren't a fan anymore". It's not that hard to understand what the trolls from the other side mean to say too.
But, since you did not enjoy this project of THEIRS, you look down in disgust and disdain at them, and at all those who were happy with them, because YOU weren't happy. So... I must act like a sheep and like it regardless, because I'm a fan(atical)? I don't think everybody must agree with me - but at the same time, I don't think I have to like whatever is done by one of the bands that I liked the most just because it has their name on it or for the sake of tradition or nostalgia (this word is getting boring by now) or respect or business or whatever. I do respect them. A lot. But I don't like what they are doing now. I'm disappointed? Yes. I wish they hadn't gone that bad? Yes. Is this being egostic? I won't lock them down in a dungeon to prevent new releases like TCR. They will quit doing that on their own, hopefully. One thing that really pissed me off in terms of respect was what Roger said to the fans (something to the likes of "fuck off if you don't like us now). What was that? A piece of knowledge by the best drummer on earth? No, it was just his own disappointment with the (early?) bad criticisms. He shouldn't worry, he will always have someone to play to, whomever is singing. |
| gnomo 01.12.2008 10:00 |
Marcos Napier wrote:I thought I had already answered that question in grammatical English:gnomo wrote: But, since you did not enjoy this project of THEIRS, you look down in disgust and disdain at them, and at all those who were happy with them, because YOU weren't happy.So... I must act like a sheep and like it regardless, because I'm a fan(atical)? gnomo wrote: In fact, despite "fan" being just an abbreviation for "fanatic", being a fan doesn't absolutely mean you have to give up your individual judgement, and the right to disagree with their choices, and the freedom to criticise their works you dislike.In fact, it makes no difference to me that you dislike Q+PR, and it sure never crossed my mind to try to make you change your mind. Why should I care? Nor was I discussing who's a true fan and who's not - I sure do not consider MYSELF a fan, and I would not wish to be classed a "true" one. I was simply discussing language and semantics, after this statement: Marcos Napier wrote: Egoism is a different thing, with a different meaning. I was simply asking for clarifications about the meaning of "egoism" - specifically whether, in your opinion, stating that something must be OBJECTIVELY wrong just because the subject subjectively happens not to like it (while someone else subjectively happens to like it) could be rightly classified under the definition of "egoism" or not. TIA |
| YourValentine 01.12.2008 10:47 |
Fone Bone wrote:
...
The point is that we got two largely successful and enjoyable tours ! Paul was never an obvious
choice to sing Queen songs given his blues-rock background, but surely there were not many
singers as capable and respectable as him on the market ...
I've seen every major act in concert (Bowie, Stones, McCartney, Page&Plant, REM, Radiohead,
Coldplay) and I can say unbiaisedly that the 2008 QPR Bercy gig was among the very best. During
all those times bitching about the un-rolling setlist, waiting for downloads to be available, I
surely tried to enjoy the whole thing as much as possible.
The only real disappointment was the album, which wasn't on par with their talent and
potential.
Yet QPR has been the best time to be a Queen fan since Made In Heaven, and for that we should
be grateful.
I don't know what the future holds in store, but as our beloved Queen surviving members grow
older and make increasingly rare appearances at WWRY parties, I know I'll miss the QPR days.
Won't you?
Yes, exactly, I totally agree. |
| Marcos Napier 01.12.2008 11:02 |
gnomo wrote: In fact, despite "fan" being just an abbreviation for "fanatic", being a fan doesn't absolutely mean you have to give up your individual judgement, and the right to disagree with their choices, and the freedom to criticise their works you dislike. In fact, it makes no difference to me that you dislike Q+PR, and it sure never crossed my mind to try to make you change your mind. Why should I care? That's the whole point. As a fan(atical) or not, the individual judgement must be preserved, I suppose. Or are we in North Korea? To me it doesn't make any difference if you like or not QPR either, if you like it, fine. I won't call you names because of that or compare "my" musical taste with "yours" or "my years as a fan therefore I know more about it than you" as some love to do. All these justifications about why I/you like or not something are just a waste of time as we - I'm saying "we" as in everybody, not towards you specifically - will (fortunately) never agree in everything. But having the rights to say that we disagree in a public place to discuss Queen (and it's variations) stuff is a must, while there isn't a wehateqpr.com forum, I guess. It should happen in both ways though, but to some it seems that anything that is said that is not "in the book of fan rules" is BS or nonsense. Both these I love/hate QPR behaviours in forums, banning whomever disagrees with the forum "policy" is much more than sad, it's childish. |
| vadenuez 01.12.2008 14:44 |
The sad thing is that QPR lovers have been massively trolling us haters while saying that we are 'trolls'. |
| Holly2003 01.12.2008 16:18 |
Here we go again ;( The point - or at least my point - is that those who don;t like QPR pretty much have nothing to say except 'they shouldn't call themselves Queen' or 'I dont like TCR' or perhaps 'They're in it only for the money' -- all of which is fine BUT NOT ON EVERY BLOODY THREAD! It's fine to say some of these things here, since to an extent this thread invites such comments . But these same points keep getting brought up on almost every QPR thread that gets started. We know what you're going to say because you've said it 100 times before. On the other hand, the QPR threads always offer something new -- for those who ARE interested, such as new recordings, news of setlists, interviews etc. Do you have to bring al of these threads down with the same old crap? It's not that you can't dislike QPR etc, more that people who are interested are just fucking bored listening to all the negativity on every thread. |
| Marcos Napier 01.12.2008 16:57 |
Holly2003 wrote: Here we go again ;( The point - or at least my point - is that those who don;t like QPR pretty much have nothing to say except 'they shouldn't call themselves Queen' or 'I dont like TCR' or perhaps 'They're in it only for the money' -- all of which is fine BUT NOT ON EVERY BLOODY THREAD! (...) But what are the other possible reasons to dislike it? Not liking Paul's beard or his shirts? I don't like it purely by its musical content more than anything else. It might be boring to read about it in every thread, but it is also boring for us "haters of evil" to read some comments treating this project as the 8th wonder or Jesus coming back or something. It is also boring to see the millions of comments saying how Freddie is a genius, how BoRhap is great etc. etc. and these aren't filled with any negativity. Brian and Roger probably are more bored than anyone to answer these same questions over and over about Freddie and Paul as well - but it's their job and they knew it was coming. This forum is a place where fans can (most of the time) express their opinions on all Queen subjects and this is the only place that can store both the good and the bad. Maybe just the money subject is a bit exaggerated (and stupid and weak), but the others are valid points and have a common root: the new work is subpar, below average not only compared with what they did, but compared to other similar material of other similar bands (I'm waiting for people asking me for valid examples...). To keep it in the topic subject again, if it was all about the money, they wouldn't quit now (maybe it's not selling as expected, but at least there's some money coming in) and maybe they would have started it at least 10 years ago (and possibly John would be involved). If it is the only possibility to ever hear some Queen material again (which is a valid point though), fine, the sentimental reasons are more than valid. Just don't say it is the best thing in the world when we know it isn't. |
| Headlong24 02.12.2008 01:22 |
Well, after a week's discussion I think it's perfectly clear how many of you think. Now that the tour is officially over and judging by Brian's lack of comments and the official list of downloads or lack there of at Queenonline.com, this venture is official over. Sure they can play some more one off concerts in the UK with Paul Rodgers, but they will never tour North America again. It's a shame, and being an American and seeing a dozen shows including 2 in England it's sad really. Let me set the record straight for all those "Well Paul Rodgers is more popular in America because he sang in Bad Company". Well the truth is Bad Company was popular here, about 30 years ago!!!! And never on the same playing field as Queen. Personally I love Paul Rodgers, he's a very good singer, very professional, and very talanted. But he is not even in the same building as Freddie Mercury. It's true I feel like a critic here, and I hate critic's. But the truth is hearing the Show Must Go On played like it's going in slow motion is not cool!!!! WTF, seriously this tour has been a mess from the beginning. They start the tour with One Vision, then drop it, then start it with a lack lustar version of Hammer to Fall, terrible I was there in Birmingham. WTF are they doing. It's like "Hey we have Paul Rodgers but we really don't need him", and from seeing the tour in 2005,2006, and 2008 it's like they have told him, and Pauls only there to collect a pay check. The whole thing really fustrates me, and has been a totally disaster this time around especially. And personally Paul doesn't make it any easier on himself, he has absolutelly no interaction with the audience what so ever!!! I don't know if Brain and Roger have instructed him not to or if he just chosse not to. But this is insane. At least in 2005 he tried to interact with the audience, but this tour he really hasen't said a word even when he does his own songs, it's really weird! I really hope they rebound, if it's with another singer or by themselves, but this prouduct of Queen + just doesn't cut it! |
| Pim Derks 02.12.2008 01:30 |
You must've seen a different Paul Rodgers then me. The Paul Rodgers I saw shook hands with people in the audiences,always widely smiling, pointing and waving at people in the audience etc etc. He's a performer for god's sake - perfoming is what he does and what he enjoys. |
| YourValentine 02.12.2008 03:03 |
Headlong24 wrote:
Well, after a week's discussion I think it's perfectly clear how many of you think. Now that the tour is officially over and judging by Brian's lack of comments and the official list of downloads or lack there of at Queenonline.com, this venture is official over. Sure they can play some more one off concerts in the UK with Paul Rodgers, but they will never tour North America again. It's a shame, and being an American and seeing a dozen shows including 2 in England it's sad really.
==================================== We heard that Queen and Paul Rodgers are negotiating a tour in the USA, Japan and maybe even Australia in September/October 2009. Nothing has been signed but I would not be too pessimistic. |
| Togg 02.12.2008 04:18 |
Interesting... I suspected they might do Japan again, they always go down so well over there, but I didn't think they would do Oz From comments by way of a third party (so no idea how true) this is certainly not over at this point, short break then back to work. |
| Holly2003 02.12.2008 06:55 |
Marcos Napier wrote:Holly2003 wrote: Here we go again ;( The point - or at least my point - is that those who don;t like QPR pretty much have nothing to say except 'they shouldn't call themselves Queen' or 'I dont like TCR' or perhaps 'They're in it only for the money' -- all of which is fine BUT NOT ON EVERY BLOODY THREAD! (...)But what are the other possible reasons to dislike it? Not liking Paul's beard or his shirts? I don't like it purely by its musical content more than anything else. It might be boring to read about it in every thread, but it is also boring for us "haters of evil" to read some comments treating this project as the 8th wonder or Jesus coming back or something. It is also boring to see the millions of comments saying how Freddie is a genius, how BoRhap is great etc. etc. and these aren't filled with any negativity. Brian and Roger probably are more bored than anyone to answer these same questions over and over about Freddie and Paul as well - but it's their job and they knew it was coming. This forum is a place where fans can (most of the time) express their opinions on all Queen subjects and this is the only place that can store both the good and the bad. Maybe just the money subject is a bit exaggerated (and stupid and weak), but the others are valid points and have a common root: the new work is subpar, below average not only compared with what they did, but compared to other similar material of other similar bands (I'm waiting for people asking me for valid examples...). To keep it in the topic subject again, if it was all about the money, they wouldn't quit now (maybe it's not selling as expected, but at least there's some money coming in) and maybe they would have started it at least 10 years ago (and possibly John would be involved). If it is the only possibility to ever hear some Queen material again (which is a valid point though), fine, the sentimental reasons are more than valid. Just don't say it is the best thing in the world when we know it isn't. It's possible to be bored without boring everyone else too. Comments about "Freddie was a genius" are dull, but nothing new. However, QPR is new - and when threads start about new concerts, interviews, downloads etc that is interesting to a lot of people here. And those people don't need to hear over and over again how much others hate QPR. It's not relevant, it's repetitive, and it's very, very dull. |
| Marcelo_argentina 02.12.2008 08:14 |
Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons.... Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!! |
| Marcos Napier 02.12.2008 09:44 |
Comments about "Freddie was a genius" are dull, but nothing new. However, QPR is new - It's new, but it's dull too - just get an average of the "negativity" in these posts and try to get the main reasons people think it's not their cup of tea - almost all the same. And what's wrong (besides saying it over and over) with saying that in the middle of the positive reviews? If it wasn't for Paul, for sure there won't be many interesting new threads here, and it would be a memorial instead. And it would be much more boring than all these hate X love QPR threads. Yesterday I saw a video of Under Pressure (can't remember from what concert) and immediately I thought "well Brian and Roger can go on their own if they do it like this". Brian doing that falsetto!... But the problem is that I am sure that they won't have enough "energy" (for the lack of a better word - I don't mean "motivation") to go through a 2 hours concert. If they shorten it, it will be sort of a pocket show of the greatest hits (i.e. a reduced version of Q+PR concerts) and nothing special can be expected. For America and Japan, it might work better than Europe. |
| e-man 02.12.2008 16:22 |
I dunno why people are kidding themselves; it's cool to see roger and brian sing some songs, especially when they come to the front of the stage and get's a different vibe - but none of them are anywhere NEAR Paul when it comes to vocal abilities between them, brian and roger have sung a majority of the Queen hits on solo tours, and none of them can hold a candle to paul. they need paul to pull it off. if they wanna do it without him they should go out as May & Taylor. |
| steven 35638 02.12.2008 22:56 |
Togg wrote:
There were times back in the day when you would turn up at a gig and be thinking will Freddie even show up on stage'
You make it sound as if he was Axl Rose. |
| AmeriQueen 02.12.2008 23:18 |
Bad Company did a few albums, The Firm did 2 albums, The Law did 2 albums.... I think Rodgers is likely to follow this break in album with a 2nd one. It's a great merger and should only produce more success as time goes on. The setback if there is any would be the somewhat dissapointing Cosmos Rocks which I think is very good but not quite great. It's sales might not be as much, but the tours will gross big profits. What we need to see is a warmed up band that follos up with a much more ambitious 2nd album full of High Production value and a much more May/Taylor heavy sound. There is no reason to think B and R want to break up this partnership and I can't see a Bad Company reunion and/or solo work for Paul as a profitable or interesting alternative to this supergroup merger. One thing that would Jazz things up would be a Roy Thomas Baker reunion for a 2nd go in the studio. Queen never did really come full circle with their roots and this would be a very exciting concept at least to me. |
| gnomo 03.12.2008 13:23 |
Pim Derks wrote: You must've seen a different Paul Rodgers then me. The Paul Rodgers I saw shook hands with people in the audiences,always widely smiling, pointing and waving at people in the audience etc etc.Yes, that must be the same Paul Rodgers I saw at all 10 shows :-) |
| redspecialusa 03.12.2008 17:04 |
AmeriQueen wrote: Bad Company did a few albums, The Firm did 2 albums, The Law did 2 albums.... I think Rodgers is likely to follow this break in album with a 2nd one. It's a great merger and should only produce more success as time goes on. The setback if there is any would be the somewhat disappointing Cosmos Rocks which I think is very good but not quite great. It's sales might not be as much, but the tours will gross big profits. What we need to see is a warmed up band that follows up with a much more ambitious 2nd album full of High Production value and a much more May/Taylor heavy sound. There is no reason to think B and R want to break up this partnership and I can't see a Bad Company reunion and/or solo work for Paul as a profitable or interesting alternative to this supergroup merger. One thing that would Jazz things up would be a Roy Thomas Baker reunion for a 2nd go in the studio. Queen never did really come full circle with their roots and this would be a very exciting concept at least to me. That would be an awesome idea...Queen, Paul and Roy Thomas Baker on album #2! Freakin' awesome! I think they're just taking a holiday and feeling out the future, and album #2; I think the whole rumor about them being over is absolute BULLSHIT. |
| vadenuez 04.12.2008 14:23 |
Please, stop playing the nostalgia card anymore! They haven't worked with RTB since the seventies. Why on earth would they want to use him again as a producer? If they want to be respected as a brand new band (even if they're still Queen) they must now look towards the future and bury the past. |
| inu-liger 04.12.2008 18:38 |
If they bring back RTB, will their digital audio station's hard drives become transparent enough before the next album's finished? :-) Vadenuez: Good point. RTB is no George Martin, really. He's not important enough to be considered Queen's equivalent of the Beatles' "5th member"....I think Spike Edney earned that title long ago :-) |
| Marcos Napier 04.12.2008 18:52 |
Maybe they should try RTB Jr (if there is one). It worked with George Martin and Love. |
| inu-liger 05.12.2008 02:15 |
Marcos Napier wrote: Maybe they should try RTB Jr (if there is one). It worked with George Martin and Love. Lord, no. One "Love" is enough (was good, mind you). Would be another excuse for QPL to milk more of our hard-earned money before we get a proper release of something more in line with what us fans really want *cough cough* Besides, I can't see them dumping Justin Shirley-Smith and co. anytime soon. That guy's been with them for quite a long time now (early 90's I believe), and obviously they're quite comfortable with him. I STILL think, however, should they choose to embark on another + project, I'd like to see them team up with Utada Hikaru :-) |
| Daniel Nester 05.12.2008 07:49 |
What's to stop them from making another album? Or for any of them from making more solo albums? The whole way artists distribute their work has changed in the past 2-3 years, and they could simply put it online. Paul Rodgers does seem to like to move from one project to another, and so yeah, maybe this will be over, and sooner rather than later. I don't think it will be anything dramatic when it does end. I think the whole project has been a great way to see and hear Roger and Brian play and sing, and be onstage with someone who isn't drowned out of the mix when they turn it up to 11, as has been the case with so many one-off vocalists they're worked with. For that I am thankful. That it keeps them playing I am thankful. |
| Marcos Napier 05.12.2008 09:44 |
If they try it again and with RTB, the first part of the album's name should be "A nightmare at... (Protools?)". Vocal harmonies with Paul? Forget it. I was reading some interviews and articles about him other day... in The Darkness album he said they probably had around 1000 guitar tracks at some point, and he "cut it down" to "just" 72 for certain songs. All this in a Queen clone album. Imagine in the real thing. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 05.12.2008 10:18 |
Well who cares about PR?It's a 2 years line-up,with no big hits,the only important thing was that they tour and we could see Brian and Roger,as long as Rog and Bri keep on making new music,Paul Rodgers can go on tour to Jamaica,Singapur,Afganistan or make 20 new solo albums,it wouldn't change my life at all. |
| jeffuk49 06.12.2008 08:15 |
well he wouldnt have had such a good solo tour in the uk in 2007 if it wasnt for Brian and Roger if it had happened it would have more than likely been a lot smaller venues like the astoria etcor my local pub |
| wilk 06.12.2008 11:53 |
Will they still continue to use Paul's syrup? |
| Ken8 11.12.2008 20:09 |
Marcelo_argentina wrote: Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons.... Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!! Yeah, feelings of regret, of missed opportunities, of underachieving and feelings of tarnishing a great bands reputation. |
| inu-liger 12.12.2008 04:28 |
Ken8 wrote:Marcelo_argentina wrote: Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons.... Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!!Yeah, feelings of regret, of missed opportunities, of underachieving and feelings of tarnishing a great bands reputation. Troll |
| Ken8 12.12.2008 20:34 |
inu-liger wrote:Ken8 wrote:TrollMarcelo_argentina wrote: Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons.... Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!!Yeah, feelings of regret, of missed opportunities, of underachieving and feelings of tarnishing a great bands reputation. Sheep. Keep swallowing the rubbish fed to you.....it's a new band, Freddie wished he could sing like Rodgers etc. It's clear now not many were buying it, apart from a few like yourself, and those who like a nostalgia tour. |
| Marcos Napier 12.12.2008 20:44 |
Marcelo_argentina wrote: Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons.... Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!! Feelings of empty pockets. |
| inu-liger 12.12.2008 22:25 |
Ken8 wrote:inu-liger wrote:Sheep. Keep swallowing the rubbish fed to you.....it's a new band, Freddie wished he could sing like Rodgers etc. It's clear now not many were buying it, apart from a few like yourself, and those who like a nostalgia tour.Ken8 wrote:TrollMarcelo_argentina wrote: Music is about "feelings" not logical reasons.... Queen+Paul Rodgers=Feelings!!Yeah, feelings of regret, of missed opportunities, of underachieving and feelings of tarnishing a great bands reputation. It wasn't fed to me, ass. I bought it and listened to it on my own accord. I own THREE copies at least (UK CD/Canada CD/US vinyl), and I almost NEVER buy a new album more than once, let alone in several formats. That certainly must show how good *I BELIEVE* the album is, I think. On another topic, would you care to point me to the Church of Freddie? I have some explosive material I'd like to det.......er, deposit there for safekeeping ;-) |
| Ken8 14.12.2008 20:06 |
On another topic, would you care to point me to the Church of Freddie? I have some explosive material I'd like to det.......er, deposit there for safekeeping ;-) Shows what a retard we're dealing with here. Imagine a "Church Of Freddie" on a Queen forum! The very idea. I don't care what you thought about the album anymore than you care what I think about it. The fact remains it was underwhelming in reviews and sales. And that's despite the old trick of making it seem collectable by it being available in various formats so the die hard sheep will buy the same album multiple times. |
| Jerome2007 21.12.2008 15:06 |
In my humble opinion, Most persons who are attending Queen + Paul Rodgers tour - are there to listen to Queen's Music...personally I am happy that Paul Rodgers is performing Queen's songs; other than that I don't care too much about Mr. Rodgers. |
| justys2 21.12.2008 18:34 |
I attended their concert but I have to say becouse of QPR project I discovered Paul Rodgers. I didn't know him before it all started in 2005. Now I love his voice and also many songs from Bad company and Free...and yes at the concert I looked mainly on Brian and Roger:) but I also love Paul's songs and maybe in the future ( if Paul go for another solo tour) I will attend one of his solo concerts too. I watched Live in Glasgow dvd from Paul's last solo tour and I really enjoyed it. Great singer and many great songs. Really my jaw dropped few times when I first watched this dvd. So I love Queen and I discovered Paul and for me it's the best combination that could happen...so I hope they will continue as QPR...:) |
| April 06.01.2009 19:04 |
The concert by Queen+Paul Rodgers was played on the radio today in Moscow, on Radio-Rock. I was pleasantly surprised, at last the due appreciation is given, maybe cause it has received the Gold Status? And they can't but play it now and all the time??? !!! |
| Ken8 06.01.2009 22:39 |
Jerome2007 wrote: In my humble opinion, Most persons who are attending Queen + Paul Rodgers tour - are there to listen to Queen's Music.. Yes, albeit mostly in a lower key. |
| roy_fokker 11.01.2009 13:55 |
I was wondering right these days how about the future of this collaboration. Just one question: how was the album and tour's outcome from a commercial point of view? Personally, now I'm appreciating the new album much more than right after it had been released: maybe I am also counscius that music of such a quality is very unlikely to be produced by many other rock musicians around, these days.. |
| thequeen 12.01.2009 11:32 |
Ohhhh , there we're posters ,cd's,badges,flags & "TCR-dolls thrown out of airplanes.....the actual album sales we're quite staggering ...300.000 copies less or more (lol the fact there we're over a 300.000 people at Kharkov - not to speak of the number of people altogether that went and see Q+PR the WHOLE tour so that should "tell" you something how dissapointed the sales of TCR are") Lol .... it's like a hurricane really now ...And Why not release the rehearsals they had in Kharkov ??([img=/images/smiley/msn/embaressed_smile.gif][/img] ) Everything seems possible now ....Q++++PR are preparing for America & Canada now ... loading up the "big gun" .... it's gonna .....it's gonna shooooooot!!!! (all sarcasm[img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] ) WHAT A BLOODY CIRCUS !!!!!!!!! JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ !!!!!!!!!! I'm dissapointed ...........very ........ |
| thequeen 12.01.2009 11:34 |
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| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 12.01.2009 21:09 |
Queen + Paul Rodgers Tour=OVER>Queen + Paul Rodgers=OVER=MUSIC TO MY EARS + Happiness and Joy in my Heart!! |
| Headlong24 14.05.2009 01:18 |
It was fun while it lasted. |
| e-man 14.05.2009 03:54 |
April wrote: The concert by Queen+Paul Rodgers was played on the radio today in Moscow, on Radio-Rock. I was pleasantly surprised, at last the due appreciation is given, maybe cause it has received the Gold Status? And they can't but play it now and all the time??? !!! the concert was aired on radio???????? is there a recording?? |
| Marcos Napier 14.05.2009 16:28 |
Just read about it. It's one of the happiest days of my life. The nightmare is over. |
| redspecialusa 16.05.2009 21:45 |
Wow...all you Freddie worshipers are happier than George Michael in a public bathroom. Get over yourselves... |
| Zodiacal_light 22.05.2009 17:04 |
redspecialusa wrote: Wow...all you Freddie worshipers are happier than George Michael in a public bathroom. Get over yourselves... Its very very strange that some people would rather Brian and Roger locked themselves away, and dreamed about 25 years ago. |
| redspecialusa 22.05.2009 19:29 |
Zodiacal_light wrote:redspecialusa wrote: Wow...all you Freddie worshipers are happier than George Michael in a public bathroom. Get over yourselves...Its very very strange that some people would rather Brian and Roger locked themselves away, and dreamed about 25 years ago. It's strange and pathetic that people have that sentiment about Brian & Roger. Freddie Mercury was a genius musician, great singer, & the quintessential showman. The sad truth is that Freddie isn't with us anymore. If they did what the fans wanted...I truly feel that it would be such a waste of their talents and gifts as musicians. To hell w/ the people that fucked up on the promotion of 'The Cosmos Rocks.' It was still a good album...easily superior to AC/DC's newest record. I believe that Brian & Roger could still make kick ass music. And I hope they carry on and keep doing what they truly do best. The U.S. more so than any other country needs to realize how special Queen is as well as how unique the individuals of that group are. It seems like not enough has been done to keep their name alive here in America...and they are largely unappreciated here. |
| mike hunt 31.05.2009 05:35 |
redspecialusa wrote: Wow...all you Freddie worshipers are happier than George Michael in a public bathroom. Get over yourselves... lol, you mean queen fans?....you know that band with freddie mercury on vocals and John deacon on bass?.....fans of freddie do visit this site once in a while, lol. The guy who sang for queen for 20 years. No one has a problem with brian and roger creating music together with paul or anyone else, but their living in the past using the queen name. That's all it is. Black ice kicks cosmo's ass! |
| Queen Matt 20.06.2009 16:10 |
I think QPR are over coz i think Brian & Roger told Paul that a few of his songs on this tour would be dropped for Queen songs which upset him but people were there for Queen that could have been me singing there and they would have still got the same crouds. |
| The Real Wizard 20.06.2009 17:17 |
Queen Matt wrote: that could have been me singing there and they would have still got the same crouds. Don't underestimate Paul's draw in North America. Bad Company were just about as big as Queen were. |
| mike hunt 21.06.2009 04:15 |
Sir GH wrote:Queen Matt wrote: that could have been me singing there and they would have still got the same crouds.Don't underestimate Paul's draw in North America. Bad Company were just about as big as Queen were. nice try, but most people I'v talked with didn't even know or give a rats ass about paul rodgers. Everyone I'v talked with knows who Queen is. |
| IReallyLoveQueen 23.08.2010 15:31 |
I LOVE QUEEN |