QueenZone discussion #1150214

ThomasQuinn wrote: It's a load of crap, as per usual. Anyone who knows anything about Freddie Mercury can tell you that he was extremely quiet and relaxed off-stage. The stage antics were part of the performance. An act. Anyone referring to that as ADHD (which itself is a fashion disease. The real thing is far more rare than the amount of kids diagnosed with it; nowadays, any child that is a little on the busy side is called "ADHD" so that they can feed the poor kid medication) needs to get his/her head examined.

Lady Nyx wrote: i wondered if he had a form of it actually- i heard somewhere that he had a hard time relaxing at all, which is why he was always so busy.

ThomasQuinn wrote: It's a load of crap, as per usual. Anyone who knows anything about Freddie Mercury can tell you that he was extremely quiet and relaxed off-stage. The stage antics were part of the performance. An act. Anyone referring to that as ADHD (which itself is a fashion disease. The real thing is far more rare than the amount of kids diagnosed with it; nowadays, any child that is a little on the busy side is called "ADHD" so that they can feed the poor kid medication) needs to get his/her head examined.

Holly2003 wrote: Yes, he had all kinds of afflictions, including dsypraxia. That's why Bo Rap was originally called Bolivian Raspberry, WATC was We Are The Champagne, GOFL was God old Freddie's Liver's Bad. And much more besides, but I dont have time to list them all, and besides, no one will believe me.

Winter Land Man wrote:Ah, I think Freddie had severe ADD... he had a lot of symptoms of it. And you don't have to be hyper-active to have ADD.

Lady_Kween wrote:The name progressed to ADHD after years of being called ADD. Either way, they are one im n the same.

anadamfan wrote:I only know that most diagnoses today are wrong. Usually kids only need more physical activity ect.

brENsKi wrote: "most" = more than half "usually" = more often than not. seems a bit of a stretch without actual stats to back this up. where is your evidence for either of those two statements?

anadamfan wrote:

brENsKi wrote: "most" = more than half "usually" = more often than not. seems a bit of a stretch without actual stats to back this up. where is your evidence for either of those two statements?

Personal experience. I‘m a teacher. It’s my daily business.

brENsKi wrote: anecdotal is not scientific data. and I think it's maybe a sweeping statement to condemn "most" medical diagnosis as incorrect. I think you'd be a little "put out" if Doctors started telling you they knew better than you on how to teach Maths or English.

anadamfan wrote:

brENsKi wrote: anecdotal is not scientific data. and I think it's maybe a sweeping statement to condemn "most" medical diagnosis as incorrect. I think you'd be a little "put out" if Doctors started telling you they knew better than you on how to teach Maths or English.

First: I didn’t know scientific data is necessary in this discussion. And I don’t think it is. If you think so, please ignore my post. Second: When I have a kid in my class, where I‘m unsure, if it has ADHD or ADD I send it to a doctor. I was mostly talking about people who are saying they (or someone else like their kid or friend) have ADHD without ever seeing a doctor. Because these are many more than the ones, who do really have a diagnosis of ADHD. I have less than 1 kid with a diagnosis of either ADD or ADHD in each class, but at least 3 that behave as if they had it. But where the doctors said no. To come back to Freddie: Again, I don’t know about him. I only think, that one should be careful, before one attests someone ADHD.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

anadamfan wrote: To come back to Freddie: Again, I don’t know about him. I only think, that one should be careful, before one attests someone ADHD.

Your last sentence #irony , #contradiction. SMH.

anadamfan wrote:I only know that most diagnoses today are wrong. Usually kids only need more physical activity ect.

anadamfan wrote: I have less than 1 kid with a diagnosis of either ADD or ADHD in each class, but at least 3 that behave as if they had it. But where the doctors said no.

brENsKi wrote: you're changing your argument. you definitely said this:

anadamfan wrote:I only know that most diagnoses today are wrong. Usually kids only need more physical activity ect.

anadamfan wrote: I have less than 1 kid with a diagnosis of either ADD or ADHD in each class, but at least 3 that behave as if they had it. But where the doctors said no.

a diagnosis is a professional appraisal. your latest post contradicts your previous one.

anadamfan wrote: Ah, I see. As I tried to explain in my second post, I was referring to the „general diagnosis“, which is too often not done by a doctor. Like actually the speculation in this topic. Sorry, I see that I expressed myself wrong there.

brENsKi wrote: You're now changing your argument. Weirdly, you definitely said BOTH of these:

anadamfan wrote:I only know that most diagnoses today are wrong. Usually kids only need more physical activity ect.

anadamfan wrote: I have less than 1 kid with a diagnosis of either ADD or ADHD in each class, but at least 3 that behave as if they had it. But where the doctors said no.

Diagnosis: a judgment about what a particular illness or problem is, made after examining it: A diagnosis is a professional appraisal - this isn't anything an unqualified person can do. If a doctor has said "no" then the child does not have ADHD/ADD. Your first post claims most diagnosis are wrong, but then your second statement contradicts your previous one. Either the doctors are wrong (your first statement), or they're cgetting it right (your second statement). What's it to be? It can't be both.

anadamfan wrote:

brENsKi wrote: you're changing your argument. you definitely said this:

anadamfan wrote:I only know that most diagnoses today are wrong. Usually kids only need more physical activity ect.

anadamfan wrote: I have less than 1 kid with a diagnosis of either ADD or ADHD in each class, but at least 3 that behave as if they had it. But where the doctors said no.

a diagnosis is a professional appraisal. your latest post contradicts your previous one.

Ah, I see. As I tried to explain in my second post, I was referring to the „general diagnosis“, which is too often not done by a doctor. Like actually the speculation in this topic. Sorry, I see that I expressed myself wrong there.