| PieterMC 05.11.2008 10:41 |
#47 on Billboard Top 200 |
| Erin 05.11.2008 10:42 |
Bout what I expected, really...:-I |
| PieterMC 05.11.2008 10:46 |
FYI....It does mean that it charted better than Made in Heaven. |
| Wiley 05.11.2008 10:50 |
PieterMC wrote: FYI....It does mean that it charted better than Made in Heaven. Oh, you shouldn't have said that. Officially, shit has hit the fan. This thread is doomed :). Well, recently a lot of people was talking about different charts on every country and explaining how Queen did well on this particular chart and other questioning how valid was it or saying "who cares, classic rock bands don't have hits anymore", etc. I had almost forgot about Billboard. This is it. It IS Billboard and it is the real deal. #47, well, not impressive but it is almost a tiny splash over there. Someone else cared and not just hardcore fans, perhaps? |
| PieterMC 05.11.2008 10:53 |
People need to bear in mind that this chart position is fairly consistent with just about any Queen release in the United States over the last 10 - 15 years. I just had to mention MIH because I know some people will be all over this like white on rice. I honestly believe that even a new album with Freddie would not have charted any higher than this. |
| Maz 05.11.2008 11:32 |
Yeah, that is a good point, Pieter. The only time they've charted higher in the last 15 years were Classic Queen and Greatest Hits. I was hoping for a top 100, and this is better than that. |
| AlexRocks 05.11.2008 11:49 |
OBVIOUSLY not touring the U.S., not having a short promotional film (music video), or not promoting the studio l.p. had ANYTHING to do with it at all. You all need to realise that the studio l.p. would have done MUCH better if they would have put in...what do they call it? Oh yes. Effort. It has nothing to do with ANYTHING other than that. I'll be forever damned that a great l.p. by Queen or WHOEVER cannot do well if it is promoted right. No such thing happened here in the U.S. of A. And that's a REAL shame. Perhaps another black eye on Queen untold of since their reputation was destroyed even farther with the death of their lead singer Freddie Mercury and the hows and whys of that. |
| Michael Allred 05.11.2008 13:26 |
Wow, well that's honestly a LOT better than I had expected, breaking into the top 50 with virtually zero promotion. I can only imagine how much better it would have done had they done something to get the word out to the mainstream. |
| PieterMC 05.11.2008 13:27 |
#33 in Canada |
| Micrówave 05.11.2008 13:28 |
PieterMC wrote: FYI....It does mean that it charted better than Made in Heaven. Oh, no you dint!!!! |
| PieterMC 05.11.2008 13:31 |
Micrówave wrote:PieterMC wrote: FYI....It does mean that it charted better than Made in Heaven.Oh, no you dint!!!! I just checked, and I did. Charted 11 places higher than Made in Heaven. Seriously if they actually had some print ads, tv ads and actually some promotion I believe TCR would have hit the top 30. |
| Holly2003 05.11.2008 14:31 |
Firstly, how high it gets in the charts usually means nothing to me as it doesn't change the quality of the music. When I was more of a Stepford back in the early days I paid more attention to this stuff but not much any more. However, it probably matters to the band, and the popularity or otherwise of TCR will probably affect their decision to carry on as they are, i.e. to continue as Q+PR, or pack it in after the current tour is over. There's enough in TCR to keep me interested, even if it isn't a great release. I'd like to see aother album from them. So, in my own long-winded way, I guess I'm saying I'm glad that the record has done better in the US than I expected (I didn't think it would chart at all!) ps Pieter, good point about MIH and other releases. |
| PieterMC 05.11.2008 14:41 |
Just found this: http://www.fmqbproductions.com/epks/2008/queen/ |
| Josh Henson 05.11.2008 16:05 |
First time I've seen that. I agree, there was no promotion over here (USA) for this, or past Queen releases of the last 15+ years. |
| inu-liger 05.11.2008 21:36 |
PieterMC wrote: #33 in Canada Awesome, eh!!! :-D |
| AlexRocks 05.11.2008 23:34 |
Just thought I would clarify that "The Cosmos Rocks" is a GREAT studio l.p.!!! I'm sick of hearing stupid things about it! Of course they won't "pack it in"! There are more great studio l.p.s to come! The whole point was to keep this all going. Obviously they are going to have to start promoting these releases, doing some short promotional films (music videos), and touring the U.S. as well. |
| NoOneButMe 05.11.2008 23:48 |
The Cosmos Rocks !!! #1 in my personal chart... by the hour. Saludos. |
| GT 06.11.2008 02:46 |
Couldn't agree more NoOneButMe. It's my personal favourite and has been since it's release. I can't believe how good this album is. The musicianship, writing, vocals, arrangement.....certainly better than I had hoped for, and I had high hopes. |
| YourValentine 06.11.2008 03:41 |
TCR entered the German charts at No 4. Now after 6 or 7 weeks it's No. 43 (last week 34). Made In Heaven was No 1 for 10 weeks and stayed in the charts forever. It beat The Beatles Anthology 1 ("chart war of the dead") which was released in the same week by far. |
| GT 06.11.2008 03:57 |
Here in the UK it entered the album chart at number 5 and is now out of the top 100. The reason for this is the lack of promotion that was made for this release, which would of guaranteed it's staying power. The album should of been released a couple of months before the tour so the band could then promote properly with live interviews, TV appearances and above all a music video for C-Lebrity. Without any publicity then your average person won't know you have a new album out. It's not as if the regular tabloids/newspapers are going to mention it as they only concentrate on the younger pop stars that are 'in' at the moment. At the time of Made In Heaven being released in 1995, the band had already had a hit single and anticipation was very high for this album, not just from fans, but by everyone who liked and bought music. Freddie was still very much in the public eye, even though he had been dead for four years. There was also a lot of publicity for the album which was the major factor in it's success. Shame the same attention wasn't given to the cosmos rocks, it would of been a different story. |
| brians wig 06.11.2008 04:22 |
They obviously don't care about chart positions anymore. At the end of the day, they (R & B) have proved that they are proper hairy-ass musicians (waiting for Brian's comments on his blog having just been called a hairy-ass muso!), that the music is in their blood and they will keep playing for the fans and themselves rather than for the money (unlike JD who was obviously in it only for the money!). Let's face it. They don't NEED the money..... |
| Holly2003 06.11.2008 05:02 |
AlexRocks wrote: Just thought I would clarify that "The Cosmos Rocks" is a GREAT studio l.p.!!! I'm sick of hearing stupid things about it! Of course they won't "pack it in"! There are more great studio l.p.s to come! The whole point was to keep this all going. Obviously they are going to have to start promoting these releases, doing some short promotional films (music videos), and touring the U.S. as well. Queen have said before that they wouldn't stay together as a band if their music wasn't popular. Of course, that was during the FM era so things might have changed. However, I can't see them flogging a dead horse (if that's the way they see it) because they've never given any indication that they're doing this 'to keep this all going'. It's likely that Brian May and Roger Taylor gave up their solo careers because it was simply too much hard work having to start over again. The daily monotony of promotional efforts for little reward isn't too appealing to aging rock stars. That's why I think the success or otherwise of the album might have an influence on their future together as a band. However, it's also very possible that they see the relative success of their live concerts as the way to go, and perhaps recordings may become secondary to that. Many older bands stil exist because of the strength of their live shows, whereas their records never chart. As for stupidity, if you could point to one great song on TCR I would take you a bit more seriously. Some Things That Glitter is very, very good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good songs, more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs. |
| PieterMC 06.11.2008 12:15 |
Something to ponder. I was looking over chart runs for the other studio albums in the US. Virtually ever one except MIH ended up climbing the charts. I hope that TCR will follow these albums and not MIH's path. For example: AKOM entered at #125 and peaked at #46 The Miracle entered at #83 and peaked at #24 Innuendo entered at #53 and peaked at #30 Look at it this way also. TCR entered the Billboard charts higher than Hot Space, The Works, AKOM, The Miracle, Innuendo, MIH, Wembley, and Return of the Champions. This means that (excluding Classic Queen, Greatest Hits), that TCR gave "Queen" their highest US chart debut for a studio album since The Game. |
| Michael Allred 06.11.2008 14:39 |
If I'm not mistaken, between the end of their UK tour and start of the SA tour, there's a brief window of opportunity for Q+PR to do some promotion in the US, hitting a few TV shows and such. Might be a good idea...... |
| Erin 06.11.2008 15:21 |
Michael Allred wrote: If I'm not mistaken, between the end of their UK tour and start of the SA tour, there's a brief window of opportunity for Q+PR to do some promotion in the US, hitting a few TV shows and such. Might be a good idea...... It would definitely be a good idea, but I can't see them doing it. Maybe, they'll surprise me, though. |
| Michael Allred 06.11.2008 16:29 |
Erin wrote:Michael Allred wrote: If I'm not mistaken, between the end of their UK tour and start of the SA tour, there's a brief window of opportunity for Q+PR to do some promotion in the US, hitting a few TV shows and such. Might be a good idea......It would definitely be a good idea, but I can't see them doing it. Maybe, they'll surprise me, though. Yeah I don't see it happening either but still, get in on SNL and maybe one other high profile show. SOMETHING. |
| Headlong24 06.11.2008 17:34 |
Ok here's the the deal. When is everyone going to realize that Brian, Roger and Paul are doing this for the simple fact of pure enjoyment. They don't need to promote there album with videos or interviews on TV shows, because #1 they don't need the money and could care less how many people buy there new CD and #2 they don't wanna be bothered doing stupid music videos and meaning less interview where they get asked the same questions over and over How does it feel replacing Freddie? Talk about Bohemian Ryapsody? How did you get involved with Paul Rodgers? Christ Brian did a whole interview over here in the states with Bob and Tom and they didn't even talk about the new album and they didn't even know Brian doesn't play with a Guitar Pick? Brian and Roger especially just want to get out there and play Music Live Again. I mean seriously nobody makes Music Videos anymore because nobody plays them. Do you really think MTV OR VH-1 are going to have Queen + Paul Rodgers in there top Twenty count down of the week? Get Real! |
| iron eagle 06.11.2008 20:54 |
once again the misguided PTB of the machine believes the coat tails of Q last forever and because they are so massive and popular there is no need for promotion.... 2005 nothing but a few print ad's and interview or two...end of the tour (this side of the pond) they get the most publicity-- sorry fellas the tour is over now--didnt do much good....he should have been put to pasture then but oh no..... TCR's is not a bad album-they should be promoting the shit out of it---this 'brink of boredom' lite promotion is just a waste of time. i wonder how many went and saw the theartre showing tonight--- its here in hotlanta (am working so cant go) and i have heard nary a word about it... no print, no media, nothing... just shameful it is.... go out with a bang not a whimper |
| akindofmagic 06.11.2008 23:22 |
Well... AC/DC is selling millions just based on Sony promotion. They were smart when they signed for Sony. Their last 2 album were way better than Black Ice, but nobody cared. nobody listened, nobody heard about it. This one is toping charts just because of the promotion. This is how things happen these days. |
| PieterMC 06.11.2008 23:36 |
akindofmagic wrote: Well... AC/DC is selling millions just based on Sony promotion. I disagree. It's down to Walmart promotion. Walmart could promote a CD of farts and people would buy it because they shove their exclusives down your throat. Go into Walmart it's AC/DC everywhere. |
| Knute 06.11.2008 23:39 |
PieterMC wrote:akindofmagic wrote: Well... AC/DC is selling millions just based on Sony promotion.I disagree. It's down to Walmart promotion. Walmart could promote a CD of farts and people would buy it because they shove their exclusives down your throat. Go into Walmart it's AC/DC everywhere. My how times have changed. I'm old enough to remember when AC/DC was admonished for being music of the devil. |
| Erin 07.11.2008 00:11 |
Knute wrote: My how times have changed. I'm old enough to remember when AC/DC was admonished for being music of the devil. My crazy religious aunt sent me an email forward months ago about famous people who had died. I found it online: DID YOU KNOW THESE FACTS? I SURE DIDN’T TILL NOW Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death! ...blah, blah, blah... Here are some men and women who mocked God : Bon Scott (Singer) The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang: ‘Don’t stop me; I’m going down all the way, down the highway to hell’. On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit. [img=/images/smiley/msn/devil_smile.gif][/img] |
| Holly2003 07.11.2008 04:49 |
Erin wrote:Knute wrote: My how times have changed. I'm old enough to remember when AC/DC was admonished for being music of the devil.My crazy religious aunt sent me an email forward months ago about famous people who had died. I found it online: DID YOU KNOW THESE FACTS? I SURE DIDN’T TILL NOW Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death! ...blah, blah, blah... Here are some men and women who mocked God : Bon Scott (Singer) The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang: ‘Don’t stop me; I’m going down all the way, down the highway to hell’. On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit. [img=/images/smiley/msn/devil_smile.gif][/img] Could've been worse: could've been someone else's vomit... (sorry, the old one's are the best) |
| PieterMC 07.11.2008 08:45 |
iron eagle wrote: once again the misguided PTB of the machine believes the coat tails of Q last forever and because they are so massive and popular there is no need for promotion.... 2005 nothing but a few print ad's and interview or two...end of the tour (this side of the pond) they get the most publicity-- sorry fellas the tour is over now--didnt do much good....he should have been put to pasture then but oh no..... TCR's is not a bad album-they should be promoting the shit out of it---this 'brink of boredom' lite promotion is just a waste of time. i wonder how many went and saw the theartre showing tonight--- its here in hotlanta (am working so cant go) and i have heard nary a word about it... no print, no media, nothing... just shameful it is.... go out with a bang not a whimper I agree completely. I have yet to see one ad in a magazine for the album. Only one store featured it in their Sunday sale ads during the week of release. It's pathetic. At what point are HR going to wake up and realize that it's not going to sell itself. |
| Legy 07.11.2008 11:07 |
I don't think they'll do any promo tours in the US until they tour the US, if they decide to tour. An appearance on SNL and the late night show circuit will do wonders for a band. |
| Maz 07.11.2008 12:28 |
I have decided to enjoy TCR for what it is and not to expect the rest of the country to follow along. Keeping the expectations low for what Hollywood will do is so much more relaxing. Who says fatalism is a bad idea? |
| Micrówave 07.11.2008 14:46 |
Holly 2003 wrote: As for stupidity, if you could point to one great song on TCR I would take you a bit more seriously. Some Things That Glitter is very, very good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good songs, more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs. if you could point to one great song on Innuendo I would take you a bit more seriously. Innuendo is very, very good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good songs (TSMGO, TATDOOL), more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs. if you could point to one great song on Made In Heaven I would take you a bit more seriously. A Winter's Tale is good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good recycled songs, more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs. I actually find TCR a far more interesting listen. I only have a couple of complaints, really... (1) Take the vocal effect pedal away from Roger and Brian. Perhaps they were using the Digitech Red Special. (2) Actually record a real beach. Perhaps ask John for a good location. |
| August R. 07.11.2008 15:33 |
Let's face it. They don't feel the need to promote the album 'cos music business has changed, and nowadays -as far as artists go- the money comes from touring. Album sales are irrelevant to them as long as he tour is sold out.Also, playing live gives them apparently more pleasure than making videos and giving interviews. |
| Holly2003 07.11.2008 15:46 |
Micrówave wrote:Holly 2003 wrote: As for stupidity, if you could point to one great song on TCR I would take you a bit more seriously. Some Things That Glitter is very, very good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good songs, more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs.if you could point to one great song on Innuendo I would take you a bit more seriously. Innuendo is very, very good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good songs (TSMGO, TATDOOL), more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs. if you could point to one great song on Made In Heaven I would take you a bit more seriously. A Winter's Tale is good but that's about it. There's a couple of very good recycled songs, more mediocre/average songs, and 2-3 poor songs. I actually find TCR a far more interesting listen. I only have a couple of complaints, really... (1) Take the vocal effect pedal away from Roger and Brian. Perhaps they were using the Digitech Red Special. (2) Actually record a real beach. Perhaps ask John for a good location. You may be right. Then again, I never said Innuendo or MIH were great albums. If you want my opinion, Innuendo is a lot more interesting and ambitious than TCR, whereas I've listened to TCR more times now than I ever listened to MIH. |
| vadenuez 07.11.2008 16:38 |
August R. wrote: Let's face it. They don't feel the need to promote the album 'cos music business has changed, and nowadays -as far as artists go- the money comes from touring. Album sales are irrelevant to them as long as he tour is sold out.Also, playing live gives them apparently more pleasure than making videos and giving interviews. Indeed. That's the main reason they remained being Queen and they playing new songs to the minimum. The kah-ching machine relays totally on a tour's success, more than on a soon-to-be-forgotten album. |
| Grantcdn1 08.11.2008 01:23 |
Re: previous posts asking to pick on great song on Innuendo, Made In Heaven, Cosmos Rocks... well Innuendo...I'd say most of it....aside from Delilah and All God's People Made in Heaven.....I'd say Mother Love is the only one that stands out for me....most of the other tracks were really recycled from other past projects.....it was a soft Tribute cd to Freddie....and nothing that rocked Comsos Rocks....I am loving this cd....I'd say most of the cd is great stuff....Cosmos Rocks, Still Burnin, Surfs Up... while I don't think there is anything comparable to Show Must Go On or Innuendo....it is a pretty cool cd... I'll probably listen to this more than A Kind Of Magic (there were a couple great songs there)....and Hot Space (no great songs aside from under pressure which really came out on GH1) ....actually I consider Some Things That Glitter to be one of the weakest songs when listening to the full cd....possibly due to already having two other ballads previously (Small, We Believe)...although all songs stand quite well on their own... Re chart position - certainly hoping it climbs the charts but they really need other tracks released to radio (probably within 2 wks for North America since C-lebrity is still popular in the radio charts and they should have done this already elsewhere) |
| akindofmagic 08.11.2008 20:37 |
Knute wrote:PieterMC wrote:My how times have changed. I'm old enough to remember when AC/DC was admonished for being music of the devil.akindofmagic wrote: Well... AC/DC is selling millions just based on Sony promotion.I disagree. It's down to Walmart promotion. Walmart could promote a CD of farts and people would buy it because they shove their exclusives down your throat. Go into Walmart it's AC/DC everywhere. You forgot that most countries don't have Walmart, and still AC/DC have heavy sellings on those. The new label they signed is the main reason they are having this promotion and this amount of sales. Queen shouldn't had resigned for EMI and Hollywood records. They should negociate with a new label having this new album on the table. |
| ***Marial-B*** 09.11.2008 03:57 |
Well... if you talk about promotions... When I was in the Barcelona gig, we met a couple of German who live in Tenerife asking me if I bought the album. Here in the Canarian Islands are like... filled with Germans, English and Dutch people and they can buy the album easily, butto be honest, it's not on the big shopping centers and on the big stores like Carrefour or Media Markt, which are the ones they visit. I just think they did that work to be themselves happy and make the loyal fans happy. That they don't care about charts or big sales of the album. I can't see nothing different than this. And about if the tour might come to an end, that Paul is "unhappy"... those things I just have an opinion: I hope I can see them live again. If Paul wants to leave and they want to find someone else for the job, I don't care, just by seeing Brian and Roger on stage and playing all those songs that have been with me forever and I have loved them a lot, it's been such a pleasant expierence :). The bad thing I've seen is that with him they had so much chemistry that you could see that on stage. |
| Michael Allred 13.11.2008 15:52 |
Looks like the album has fallen out of the top 100 on America's Billboard charts. No idea if it's still in the top 200 since link only lists the first 100 entries. |
| Crazy LittleThing 15.11.2008 11:15 |
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| Crazy LittleThing 15.11.2008 11:17 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote:Michael Allred wrote: Looks like the album has fallen out of the top 100 on America's Billboard charts. No idea if it's still in the top 200 since link only lists the first 100 entries.C-lebrity has been in fairly frequent rotation on the local classic rock station and the DJs have been talking up the band and the tour, and not just playing the cut without mentioning Q+PR. One DJ talked about the whole Chinese Democracy thing and mentioned brianmay.com. I don't know what that means, but it seems like someone's doing some promotion or at least two DJs in town seem to be keeping an eye on what the boys are up to. |
| tjbarrett96 15.11.2008 13:13 |
Slipped to #149.......in its 2nd week. |
| IReallyLoveQueen 23.08.2010 16:10 |
I LOVE QUEEN |