Saif 03.11.2008 07:03 |
You know you're gonna ask me how I knew tomorrow and then I'll see "Unagi!"... |
thomasquinn 32989 03.11.2008 07:06 |
You couldn't possibly know how right I hope you are. Oh, and I doubt the results will be in *tomorrow*. I mean, voting ends around what, 9pm local time? |
Treasure Moment 03.11.2008 07:11 |
stupid mindless idiots, dont you know it doesnt matter who wins because they are both puppets of people behind the curtain? |
thomasquinn 32989 03.11.2008 08:32 |
Treasure Moment wrote: stupid mindless idiots, dont you know it doesnt matter who wins because they are both puppets of people behind the curtain? Yup, and pigs fly, France is a collective hallucination, sharks are vegetarians and DMT is the key to the universe. |
AspiringPhilosophe 03.11.2008 08:57 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: You couldn't possibly know how right I hope you are. Oh, and I doubt the results will be in *tomorrow*. I mean, voting ends around what, 9pm local time? Yeah, you are right Caspar. Voting is most precincts ends at 8:00 p.m., and since the US is spread across 4 time zones when it's done on the East Coast you've still got 3 more hours before the ones in California close. Then they have to count the damn things, which can take a while because things like absentee ballots that they have now can't even be counted until the polls close. And of course if the election is anywhere near tight (which it might be), it depends on who gets to 270 Electoral votes first. This very likely could run all the way until Wednesday evening. (Thursday morning for those of you in Europe) |
inu-liger 03.11.2008 09:29 |
I hope the results are done with quickly. Although I support Obama, I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing all this election crap on TV here in Canada ALL THE FRICKIN' TIME on the news! Like it fucking matters to us up here!? That said, I hope the results are better than what we had up here last month from our 'elections'... |
Treasure Moment 03.11.2008 10:09 |
ThomasQuinn wrote:Treasure Moment wrote: stupid mindless idiots, dont you know it doesnt matter who wins because they are both puppets of people behind the curtain?Yup, and pigs fly, France is a collective hallucination, sharks are vegetarians and DMT is the key to the universe. haha wow! you are THAT stupid arent you? you really think the president isnt a puppet, talk about being naive! there are people WAY more powerful behind the scenes who control everything but a stupid person like you dont understand that. |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 03.11.2008 10:13 |
ThomasQuinn wrote:i know where you are going with this but i must point out that not all sharks are a figment of Spielbergs imagination.France is though...Treasure Moment wrote: stupid mindless idiots, dont you know it doesnt matter who wins because they are both puppets of people behind the curtain?Yup, and pigs fly, France is a collective hallucination, sharks are vegetarians and DMT is the key to the universe. |
Micrówave 03.11.2008 11:54 |
I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything. |
Treasure Moment 03.11.2008 12:05 |
Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything. David rockefeller, the Rothchilds and the other extremely rich elite families are the ones who OWN them all, they own the private central banks, the federal reserve and control everything, the president candidates are just small puppets with no power, wake up naive people. |
***Marial-B*** 03.11.2008 12:11 |
ThomasQuinn wrote:
Treasure Moment wrote: stupid mindless idiots, dont you know it doesnt matter who wins because they are both puppets of people behind the curtain?Yup, and pigs fly, France is a collective hallucination, sharks are vegetarians and DMT is the key to the universe. You forgot to say that TM is the best band in the whole wide world and that Freddie Mercury is God |
Ms. Rebel 03.11.2008 12:25 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything.David rockefeller, the Rothchilds and the other extremely rich elite families are the ones who OWN them all, they own the private central banks, the federal reserve and control everything, the president candidates are just small puppets with no power, wake up naive people. I can't believe I'm saying this, but you are right. Before succumbing to cancer, Aaron Russo declared everything that he found out about program of those families. Here's everything you need to know about Rockfellers, Rothschilds and the others. You can't totally ignore this statements as well as you can't fully accept them. It's up to you whether you believe or not but this could affect our future. link /> |
Lisser 03.11.2008 13:04 |
Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything. I am too. |
Poo, again 03.11.2008 13:38 |
I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties. |
April 03.11.2008 14:48 |
Lisser wrote:Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything.I am too. What a clever statement. The guy behind the scenes is laughing at you all. He is pushing Obama this time, cause if he wanted the Rep Party to win, he would have promoted somebody more decent that McCain and the Girl. This couple is very strange. Don't you think so? As if somebody is saying to the votes: certainly don't vote for them, obviously not, the pair is funny... |
Sergei. 03.11.2008 16:35 |
April wrote:Quit being so fucking rude and ignorant. Not supporting a candidate/candidates and not agreeing with their views doesn't necessarily warrant ridicule of things that don't have anything to do with their political ideas and policies. "The Girl"? Really? Come on now. And in your post from another thread, to say she looks like "A hawky bird, not a nice face"? That's just stupid and immature.Lisser wrote:What a clever statement. The guy behind the scenes is laughing at you all. He is pushing Obama this time, cause if he wanted the Rep Party to win, he would have promoted somebody more decent that McCain and the Girl. This couple is very strange. Don't you think so? As if somebody is saying to the votes: certainly don't vote for them, obviously not, the pair is funny...Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything.I am too. |
Poo, again 03.11.2008 16:48 |
Sergei. wrote:April wrote:Quit being so fucking rude and ignorant. Not supporting a candidate/candidates and not agreeing with their views doesn't necessarily warrant ridicule of things that don't have anything to do with their political ideas and policies. "The Girl"? Really? Come on now. And in your post from another thread, to say she looks like "A hawky bird, not a nice face"? That's just stupid and immature.Lisser wrote:What a clever statement. The guy behind the scenes is laughing at you all. He is pushing Obama this time, cause if he wanted the Rep Party to win, he would have promoted somebody more decent that McCain and the Girl. This couple is very strange. Don't you think so? As if somebody is saying to the votes: certainly don't vote for them, obviously not, the pair is funny...Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything.I am too. April is entitled to having his/her own opinion. It may be unnecessary, but still. And for your information, you may not be a tsar. You may be a tsarina. Fool. (Plzzz be kind 2 me lolzzz!!11) |
April 03.11.2008 17:22 |
Sergei, what a shame! Shame on you! You are very rude! Why become so offended on the Palin issue? Is she your relative? Still, I would understand you if your reaction concerned Marilyn Monroe, for example. But Palin is a politician, and politics is a dirty business, so she's accustomed to any kind of attitude, believe me. She is even accustomed to somebody (like you) being rude to her, while I am not. Certainly a gentleman shouldn't write not very nice things about a woman's appearance, but I am not a "he", so I am free to judge a woman's looks, and I don't like her face much. Senior citizens like you (over 70, as you claim) are expected to have learned some rules of decent behaviour by that age. |
Sergei. 03.11.2008 17:56 |
Poo, again wrote:SILENT YOU FOOL, THAT'S A FACT And for THY information, I have the luxury of choosing, and I have a CAQUE, and so choose to be a Tsar. ufail. ;P (And so then yes, a short math lesson: Man=Tsar, Woman=Tsarina, Sergei=Man=Tsar and not Tsarina)Sergei. wrote:April is entitled to having his/her own opinion. It may be unnecessary, but still. And for your information, you may not be a tsar. You may be a tsarina. Fool. (Plzzz be kind 2 me lolzzz!!11)April wrote:Quit being so fucking rude and ignorant. Not supporting a candidate/candidates and not agreeing with their views doesn't necessarily warrant ridicule of things that don't have anything to do with their political ideas and policies. "The Girl"? Really? Come on now. And in your post from another thread, to say she looks like "A hawky bird, not a nice face"? That's just stupid and immature.Lisser wrote:What a clever statement. The guy behind the scenes is laughing at you all. He is pushing Obama this time, cause if he wanted the Rep Party to win, he would have promoted somebody more decent that McCain and the Girl. This couple is very strange. Don't you think so? As if somebody is saying to the votes: certainly don't vote for them, obviously not, the pair is funny...Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything.I am too. |
shoemanbundy 03.11.2008 23:07 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Micrówave wrote: I'm voting for a behind the scenes guy who controls everything.David rockefeller, the Rothchilds and the other extremely rich elite families are the ones who OWN them all, they own the private central banks, the federal reserve and control everything, the president candidates are just small puppets with no power, wake up naive people. You keep telling us this stuff as if you want us to do something. We've heard it enough. What do you want us to do? I guess you're saying to not vote or something then. Someone will win anyway. Seriously, whats your point. Answer me you brother-raping freak. |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 04.11.2008 04:57 |
actually this thread should read "Hamilton wins!" me thinks... |
AspiringPhilosophe 04.11.2008 09:05 |
Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties. *laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. |
Treasure Moment 04.11.2008 09:10 |
MasterHistoryGirl wrote:Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. you know so much about nothing at all, wake up naive girl, both parties are controlled by the same people, its an illusion of choice. |
Ms. Rebel 04.11.2008 10:29 |
^HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Smitty 04.11.2008 10:46 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Man, I totally agree with you, but you left out the very obvious and dangerous influence of a group of powerful beings: The Lizard-Men Only a naive fool would leave them out, seeing as how they control all aspects of life in the USA. Everything from the stock market to McDonalds to Sarah Palin are either controlled by lizard people, or are lizard people themselves (see: Sarah Palin). Don't believe me? Hmm, who did a campaign event last night in Roswell, NM? Case closed.... Oh, I almost forgot... FACT.MasterHistoryGirl wrote:you know so much about nothing at all, wake up naive girl, both parties are controlled by the same people, its an illusion of choice.Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. |
Poo, again 04.11.2008 11:06 |
MasterHistoryGirl wrote:Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. This system isn't very democratic though, is it? It wouldn't surprise me at all if people don't necessarily agree with either Rep or Dem, but vote for them because they know that they're the biggest parties and don't want to just throw away their vote to a party that may finish third in the race. Or maybe Americans are simply so narrow-minded that they need only two political parties. I sure hope it isn't true. |
Treasure Moment 04.11.2008 12:21 |
Navillus (formerly Smitty) wrote:. . Oh, I almost forgot... FACT.Treasure Moment wrote:Man, I totally agree with you, but you left out the very obvious and dangerous influence of a group of powerful beings: The Lizard-Men Only a naive fool would leave them out, seeing as how they control all aspects of life in the USA. Everything from the stock market to McDonalds to Sarah Palin are either controlled by lizard people, or are lizard people themselves (see: Sarah Palin). Don't believe me? Hmm, who did a campaign event last night in Roswell, NM? Case closed..MasterHistoryGirl wrote:you know so much about nothing at all, wake up naive girl, both parties are controlled by the same people, its an illusion of choice.Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. wow you got me there! great job comparing what im saying with lizard people, you mean you are THAT stupid to outrule the possibility of powerful people behind the curtain running the show? wow you are stupid! go back to sleep sheep |
April 04.11.2008 16:48 |
I think in every country politics is controlled by certain powerful people. I don't think they would let ordinary people decide through elections who will rule the country. Or maybe every time they just strike a deal among themselves on who will win the elections this time. |
AspiringPhilosophe 04.11.2008 19:32 |
Poo, again wrote:MasterHistoryGirl wrote:This system isn't very democratic though, is it? It wouldn't surprise me at all if people don't necessarily agree with either Rep or Dem, but vote for them because they know that they're the biggest parties and don't want to just throw away their vote to a party that may finish third in the race. Or maybe Americans are simply so narrow-minded that they need only two political parties. I sure hope it isn't true.Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. No, the system isn't very democratic. But there is no country on the planet that practices democracy. Americans (the government in particular) love to say we are a "shining example of democracy"...but we aren't. We are a democratic REPUBLIC. That means we have the republican system of electing leaders to represent us. True democracy would be everyone in charge with no representatives, but that's considered too dangerous to work. You are looking (well, writing to) a person who has been accused more than once of "throwing away her vote" because I voted for a 3rd party in the last Presidential election. Most people here think that if you are going to vote for a 3rd party, you might as well not vote at all. Given the way the system is, they have a point. But I did it based on principle; the 2 party dominance is keeping any kind of progress from being made, and killing any chance for anything to really change. Most Americans, when it comes to politics, are lazy. There are TONS of people who vote for one party or the other because "their parents did", and never mind the platforms. A lot of others agree with parts of the platform of one party, but not all of it. But since they don't want to be accused of throwing away their vote, they vote for the party that mostly mirrors what they want. Then there's the segment of the population that doesn't vote at all. |
Lady Nyx 04.11.2008 22:39 |
*edit* hazaa, youre right! im still leaving the country tho ;) |
thomasquinn 32989 06.11.2008 13:05 |
MasterHistoryGirl wrote:Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. Third-party candidates do occasionally get elected to lower offices (local/state government), though. |
thomasquinn 32989 06.11.2008 13:08 |
Treasure Moment wrote:.Navillus (formerly Smitty) wrote:.Treasure Moment wrote:Man, I totally agree with you, but you left out the very obvious and dangerous influence of a group of powerful beings: The Lizard-Men Only a naive fool would leave them out, seeing as how they control all aspects of life in the USA. Everything from the stock market to McDonalds to Sarah Palin are either controlled by lizard people, or are lizard people themselves (see: Sarah Palin). Don't believe me? Hmm, who did a campaign event last night in Roswell, NM? Case closed..MasterHistoryGirl wrote:you know so much about nothing at all, wake up naive girl, both parties are controlled by the same people, its an illusion of choice.Poo, again wrote: I don't know too much about the American system when it comes to elections so I was hoping a native *cough* could explain something to me: Is any other political party than Rep or Dem valid? If so, why do these parties get all the attention? Surely there must be more political opinions in a country as large as yours, more than can be fit into just two political parties.*laughs* That's an interesting question actually. When the US system was founded, there were several parties. And the first President (George Washington) warned about the dangers of political parties even forming. But in true American form, we didn't listen. There are lots of parties here in the US. The Libertarians, The Greens, The Tax Party...all kinds. They do exist, and they are valid in the sense that they normally get a few votes every election and have some people who support them. However, they are not valid in the sense that they don't get enough votes to win anything. The Democrats and the Republicans are the two biggest parties, and they take the lions share of the votes between them every year. Because of the way the system is set up, there are only seats awarded to the top 2 winners, which are always Democrats or Republicans; it's only a matter of who is on top. And the Presidential system is a "winner take all" system. Whoever gets to 270 electoral college votes wins. I'd personally love to see a more parliamentary system, where seats are awarded based on a percentage of the vote and we finally get some other parties in Congress. But I'm pretty sure pigs will fly first. Oh, I almost forgot... FACT. wow you got me there! great job comparing what im saying with lizard people, you mean you are THAT stupid to outrule the possibility of powerful people behind the curtain running the show? wow you are stupid! go back to sleep sheep Why do you rule out his argument so quickly? It's at least as well founded as the stuff you say. |
Ms. Rebel 06.11.2008 14:34 |
I AM THE WINNER. |