| pittrek 23.10.2008 15:43 |
I was wondering how many different sound mixes REALLY exist from the officially released Wembley 86 show. From what I know there is at least - an audience recording (in not really great quality) - TV edit (probably identical with the original VHS release) - Live At Wembley '86 - Live At Wembley Stadium (remastered, full, + bonus) - the DVD - a radio broadcast (does it REALLY exist ?) I am trying to find the best possible sources for getting the real performance without any overdubs / cuts / studio work . What would you recomend ? |
| mc7t 23.10.2008 16:08 |
- a radio broadcast (does it REALLY exist ?) I can remember in 1986 when CH4 screened the show that there was a linear broadcast on the independant radio stations (these were the days before nicam stereo broadcasts) & i played the sound through my hifi & watched the tv pic. (I also remember the advert breaks having different ads, compared to the tv ads). I can also recall seeing the Wembley concert on vinyl with a big sticker on the sleeve saying "remixed by Roger Taylor"...Can anyone confirm if this was a vinyl only remix? Cheers[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
| cmsdrums 23.10.2008 16:39 |
There was definitely a vinyl only version of the Lie At Wembley 86 LP, indeed remixed by Roger. I remember seeing a copy, and I started a thread on this a year or so ago and a few posters said they also recalled it, and put up scans of the sleeve label. I have asked Greg Brooks several times by both personal email and via several threads on here if he can give some more info, but unfortunately as is usual when it comes to something interesting regarding a genuine possibility of a very rare mix being around, he has never commented. |
| Rick 23.10.2008 16:45 |
pittrek wrote: I was wondering how many different sound mixes REALLY exist from the officially released Wembley 86 show. From what I know there is at least - an audience recording (in not really great quality) - TV edit (probably identical with the original VHS release) - Live At Wembley '86 - Live At Wembley Stadium (remastered, full, + bonus) - the DVD - a radio broadcast (does it REALLY exist ?) I am trying to find the best possible sources for getting the real performance without any overdubs / cuts / studio work . What would you recomend ? Hi pittrek. The radio broadcast exists :) My uncle has a 3LP set, stating Westwood One Radio (not really sure). It even includes the original broadcast sheet. It's not the complete performance though, but I think most of it is there. Excellent condition. I could ask him to convert it one day. When I first saw it, I was simply stunned. An amazing piece of Queen history! |
| Penetration_Guru 23.10.2008 17:18 |
The Radio broadcast will necessarily be identical to the "TV edit", being a simlucast. |
| Marcos Napier 23.10.2008 21:55 |
I remember seeing this vinyl with the sticker too. |
| john bodega 24.10.2008 00:17 |
I remember hearing One Vision without the overdubs. Would that have been the radio thing? |
| pittrek 24.10.2008 03:12 |
Rick wrote:pittrek wrote: I was wondering how many different sound mixes REALLY exist from the officially released Wembley 86 show. From what I know there is at least - an audience recording (in not really great quality) - TV edit (probably identical with the original VHS release) - Live At Wembley '86 - Live At Wembley Stadium (remastered, full, + bonus) - the DVD - a radio broadcast (does it REALLY exist ?) I am trying to find the best possible sources for getting the real performance without any overdubs / cuts / studio work . What would you recommend ?Hi pittrek. The radio broadcast exists :) My uncle has a 3LP set, stating Westwood One Radio (not really sure). It even includes the original broadcast sheet. It's not the complete performance though, but I think most of it is there. Excellent condition. I could ask him to convert it one day. When I first saw it, I was simply stunned. An amazing piece of Queen history! Hi Rick, I would be REALLY interested in having it, if you can persuade your uncle to do a transfer. |
| pittrek 24.10.2008 03:14 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: The Radio broadcast will necessarily be identical to the "TV edit", being a simlucast. With the "TV edit" I meant the broadcast of the VHS edit, or was there also a live TV broadcast of the concert ? |
| The Real Wizard 24.10.2008 03:15 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I remember hearing One Vision without the overdubs. Would that have been the radio thing? Indeed it was. There is only one bootleg that was surely taken from the radio or TV broadcast (the same mix, as P_G pointed out). It's called "A Day At The Stadium". So if anyone wants to make a compilation, then they can merge these tracks with the audience recording. |
| pittrek 24.10.2008 03:16 |
Sir GH wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: I remember hearing One Vision without the overdubs. Would that have been the radio thing?Indeed it was. There is only one bootleg that was surely taken from the radio or TV broadcast (the same mix, as P_G pointed out). It's called "A Day At The Stadium". So if anyone wants to make a compilation, then they can merge these tracks with the audience recording. Do you have this boot ? My plan is to combine the video from the DVD with an audio compilation and pre-concert shoots (from Magic Years) |
| The Real Wizard 24.10.2008 03:19 |
Nope, all I've got is a couple samples.
pittrek wrote: My plan is to combine the video from the DVD with an audio compilation and pre-concert shoots (from Magic Years)Careful with that... note that the Magic Years volume 3 footage is a mixture of Mannheim, Wembley, and Knebworth Park ! Penetration_Guru wrote: The Radio broadcast will necessarily be identical to the "TV edit", being a simlucast. Do you know if the whole show was broadcast? My best guess is no... |
| mc7t 24.10.2008 11:48 |
Do you know if the whole show was broadcast? My best guess is no... No m8, it was exactly the same as the VHS release & it was broadcast later than the show date (about a week later if my memory serves me correctly)[img=../../images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
| Wilki Amieva 24.10.2008 12:37 |
The broadcast version was also released several times as a double CD by Westwood One. And there is also a special mix of One Vision included in one of the QUEEN ROCKS promo CDs from Hollywood Records. |
| The Real Wizard 24.10.2008 18:14 |
mc7t wrote: No m8, it was exactly the same as the VHS release & it was broadcast later than the show date (about a week later if my memory serves me correctly)[img=../../images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] The track listing of the 1990 VHS release and the 1986 radio rebroadcast seem like two completely unrelated things to me. Can anyone confirm what the track listing of the rebroadcast was? P_G ?? Here's the bootleg from the radio broadcast: link But at the moment I'm not certain if every track on that bootleg is from the radio broadcast, or just some of them... look where Hammer To Fall is, so who knows... |
| The Real Wizard 26.10.2008 11:52 |
And another one, with the BBC 77 tracks thrown in... link /> Any answers from anyone on this? |
| Wilki Amieva 26.10.2008 16:28 |
From the Westwood One cue sheet: 01. One Vision Tie Your Mother Down Under Pressure 02. Another One Bites The Dust Break Free (sic) Now I'm Here 03. Love Of My Life Is This The World We Created You're So Square 04. Mary Loo (sic) Tutti Fruiti (sic) Magic (sic) 05. Bohemian Rhapsody Hammer To Fall 06. Crazy Little Thing Called Love We Are The Champions |
| The Real Wizard 26.10.2008 18:39 |
Wow, great post. Thanks for that... that clears things up. |
| Phoenix501 28.10.2008 12:33 |
link |
| cmsdrums 29.10.2008 16:29 |
Phoenix501 wrote: link I can't see anything about the vinyl releases at at that link - am I missing them?? Ta |
| mabseyuk 05.11.2008 20:29 |
SIR GH, Was the couple of samples the ones I gave out a long time ago. It was One Vision and another song and I uploaded parts of them to a file share site. I've got the complete Un Dubbed version of the wembley show, and it's labelled direct from the Sound Deck. Quality is A++ and I keep meaning to convert it but have never got round to it. Partly because a long time ago I had arguements with users here who would not believe the concert was dubbed over which is what made me make the samples I had to prove it, but then I was so hacked off at the hostile approach I never converted. Mabsey |
| Harry_queenrecordings 09.11.2008 17:26 |
FULL second Wembley 1986 without overdubs would be fantastic. So for example, you have Who Wants To Live Forever without overdubs?? |
| The Real Wizard 10.11.2008 00:45 |
mabseyuk wrote: Partly because a long time ago I had arguements with users here who would not believe the concert was dubbed over which is what made me make the samples I had to prove it, but then I was so hacked off at the hostile approach I never converted. And I don't blame you. It's amazing, the number of people who will attack those who illustrate reality for what it is... especially when there's proof. |
| earwig 10.11.2008 08:55 |
Funnily enough here's another example... Someone got upset about the 'allegation' (which of course is 100% fact) that some drum parts are programmed drum machine. I mean really, does anyone believe that e.g. Radio Ga Ga is real drums???!!! Someone said that Roger actually programmed the drum machine - so that was alright then! haha!!! Whatever it takes to produce a good song/recording is whatever it takes. Any agree/disagree? Mike P.S. I would LOVE to hear an un-overdubbed 2nd night at Wembley. Thanks for the files so far off this thread though. |
| The Real Wizard 10.11.2008 11:30 |
earwig wrote: Funnily enough here's another example... Someone got upset about the 'allegation' (which of course is 100% fact) that some drum parts are programmed drum machine. I mean really, does anyone believe that e.g. Radio Ga Ga is real drums???!!! Someone said that Roger actually programmed the drum machine - so that was alright then! haha!!! Whatever it takes to produce a good song/recording is whatever it takes. Any agree/disagree? Absolutely agree. Great example. And another... when people still think the demo of Silver Salmon is from 1971, despite all the evidence pointing to 1977. The list goes on and on... |
| pittrek 10.11.2008 12:40 |
Because myths are nicer then reality [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] |
| pittrek 10.11.2008 12:42 |
mabseyuk wrote: SIR GH, Was the couple of samples the ones I gave out a long time ago. It was One Vision and another song and I uploaded parts of them to a file share site. I've got the complete Un Dubbed version of the wembley show, and it's labelled direct from the Sound Deck. Quality is A++ and I keep meaning to convert it but have never got round to it. Partly because a long time ago I had arguements with users here who would not believe the concert was dubbed over which is what made me make the samples I had to prove it, but then I was so hacked off at the hostile approach I never converted. Mabsey Hi Mabsey, I would love to get my hands on an fully undubbed version of Wembley 2nd night for a little "project" I am planning, is there any chance how to get it from you ? The version which ruth.olivier shared here is fantastic, but incomplete. BTW it looks like I started an interesting discussion [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] |
| Battler 10.04.2009 14:03 |
OMG, the complete un-dubbed version of the Wembley '86 concert? That would be amazing. BTW, I have the "A Day At The Stadium" bootleg, but it's actually the Italian release of it, and it's titled "Queen - London 1986". And actually, all the tracks are from the July 12th show (BTW, has anyone noticed, that these Wembley concerts were almost on the 1st anniversary of Live Aid - a coincidence, or something more?). ;) |