turini 14.09.2008 21:48 |
One of the best shows i have ever seen but.. i can count many times where Paul forgets the lyrics :( this is the only band I have seen with a prompter at the front of the stage with the words on it. come on Paul use it! |
Knute 14.09.2008 22:05 |
turini wrote: One of the best shows i have ever seen but.. i can count many times where Paul forgets the lyrics :( this is the only band I have seen with a prompter at the front of the stage with the words on it. come on Paul use it!Well forgetting lyrics is a first show tradition for Paul. He's done it at every tour start, but he eventually gets them in his head. |
AlexRocks 14.09.2008 22:27 |
Most of the groups I have seen in recent years have started using them. It's the result of drug and alcohol use. |
inu-liger 14.09.2008 22:32 |
It's a bit normal. Any time we play new songs or new covers live, I sometimes make a mistake here or there, as was for example the case at our last show, I got into the 2nd verse and guitar solo section of KISS' "Rock and Roll All Night" a bit too early following the snare rolls leading into them...which was a bit funny, cos the one time we did that song before that, I didn't flub up at all. Maybe I was getting too into the moment?? Mind you, the guys had quite a bit of beer to drink before we played, as it was a bar show and also sort of an unofficial birthday show for our bassist who just turned 18 before then. I abstained from the boozing of course :-) |
AmeriQueen 14.09.2008 22:35 |
In Rodgers case it's a sudden learning curve of songs he didn't write and each new entry I've noticed will usually give him some issues a couple of shows and then he's flawless. Dragon Attack gave him some trouble the first few gigs that had it, but then he mastered it. |
Mack2008 14.09.2008 22:38 |
Interesting point about the lyrics prompter. I saw Bowie using one in the mid 90s. Paul looked VERY comfortable singing Cosmos Rocks. I almost got the feeling that it was change in pace for the whole band. Overall this concert was very very good. I think Roger showed his age a little during his singing of "In Love With My Car" - having said that - considering their ages and how tough it must be do perform such a big show they did a fantastic job. Lets hope the rest of the tour has more new album material performed live. Time to rotate out some of the old regular tracks we've all heard SO many times. |
Lester Burnham 14.09.2008 23:00 |
You wanna see an artist forgetting the words to the songs, you go see Keith Richards... hooboy! |
AmeriQueen 14.09.2008 23:18 |
Very good show, it towers as a tour opener in comparison with the Brixton show from last time. Negatives: 1.) I have a BIG problem with the short Brighton Rock tease going into a couple of guitar tracks and not coming back into his traditional solo. This above all things is what I love in Queen. His live solo is the anticipated peak for me and while I loved My Bijou, I felt it cost too high a price in stripping the solo down. 2.) Rodgers missed lyrics left and right, but then again it didn't matter much to me because I know he'll improve with time. The Say It's Not True last line kind of made a cute joke about it. 3.) Roger's voice was torn up. Some shows he's not able to sing well, some he sings better than anyone, but this was one of those itchy throat days or whatever it is. 4.) Tie Your Mother Down, WWRY/WATC and ALL Right Now as encoe, Another One Bites The Dust, etc., all are songs I could do without their permanent status as must plays. Die hard Queen fans would likely sacrifice them for a replacement from the older days. 5.) Hammer To Fall by Rodgers was so perfect with the slower version and I wish they'd return to it or take it off the list. Positives: 1.) My Bijou, even though it interrupted the solo early, it was so great with the Freddie video/audio play-in, and what a great Brian live track. 2.) 39/Say It's Not True were each done collectively and I like that change. 3.) Striking Can't Get Enough Of Your Love was cool. I wish the Queen dinosaur songs like WWRY/WATC could follow it's fate. 4.) The band sounded a lot more like the USA tour in that they were much more connected as a 6 man operation. 5.) New tracks from Cosmos Rocks were few played, and very good live decisions to play the 3 they chose. 6.) I like the Paul seperation, it gives a Queen show with a nice break when we don't mind much, and they really do Wishing Well so good it stands as one of the best of the night plays. 7.) Most return songs from last tour were done either with more polish and mastery, or in many cases they put the songs into a slightly different design sounding more natural or at least more interesting. 8.) One Vision and Shooting Star were positive add ons, but I still wish they added more changes including surprise non-hits from past albums, or at least like One Vision is the choice of classic hits not played with Paul, Keep Yourself Alive, Now I'm Here and Innuendo are 3 obvious possibilities. 9.) I love the theme, stage design, extended length and committment to at most things being different in a small on up to large way, giving the first show enough of a difference from the tour from last time which shifted throughout almost as much start to finish as this does 1st show from previous tour shows. 10.) Last but not least, in fact it's probably the best item, BRIAN MAY!!! Singing and Guitar, as perfect as it gets and he starts this tour in peak form. He was MVP of this show without question. And I love that Moses assists him now on a Red Special clone instead of his Les Paul. The idea of two Red Specials live is a no brainer, and I cannot see anything more impossible to argue against as long as they choose to tour with a support guitarist behind May. For a Queen grade, i'd give this show a B- knocking a full mark down because of the Brighton Rock downsizing. I hope this isn't a tour decision. If I could influence May, i'd ask him to retire Lost Horizon for Bijou in it's place to follow like last tour, played after a long BR with a Chinese Water Torture segment. Last Horizon is GREATNESS, but it's delete for Bijou would characterize both current and last tour, giving the song and last tour more distinction. |
Compliance Queen1 14.09.2008 23:50 |
I am glad Brian's solo had been trimmed. |
YourValentine 15.09.2008 03:25 |
I already wrote this in the Sharing forum... The highlights for me were Shooting Star, 39 "unplugged" with the whole band, Bijou, Say It's Not True which sounds amazing without the echos of the studio version and they dropped the slow version of Hammer To Fall, great. Cosmos Rocking has a fun feeling I did not perceive that way on the album. The downside was the AKOM tour intro with One Vision and the video screen with all these additional visuals nobody really needs and only distract from the music (like Elton John in Las Vegas). The video screen is good when they show stage details. I could well live without some of the done-to-death songs but I don't want to start a boring set list discussion and 147 minutes are worth our money, no matter how often they play good old TYMD and FBG. I think they will add more songs from the new album as the tour proceeds. |
Queenman!! 15.09.2008 04:36 |
I like the show very much. Some great songs and new suprises But have a few negative points as I stated in some earlier mails. I think Brian May hasn't improved his guitar style a bit since the last Queen concert back in 1986. I loved his speed licks on the Brian May - Back to the light tour 1993. I may sound very hard but I just don't like it. For instance; He totally fucks up the AMAzing guitar licks in SINT and does instead a bit of his usual bending. Too bad. That guitar solo is predictable for the last 20 years. I think they didn't make a good choice for Roger in the setlist to let him work so hard on the drum Solo and let him sing IILWMC after that. It's sounds to weak in my opinion. Paul has to stick more to the lyrics and maybe repeat some more. :-) The should drop AOBTD. Paul just isn't the right person to get the audience wild during the music intermezzo and connect with them |
Mr Mercury 15.09.2008 04:52 |
turini wrote: One of the best shows i have ever seen but.. i can count many times where Paul forgets the lyrics :( this is the only band I have seen with a prompter at the front of the stage with the words on it. come on Paul use it!Q+PR may be the only band you have seen to use a prompter, but they are far from being the only band to use them. There is plenty of them. A classic example is The Beautiful South who used them on every single show they did. Another example is Black Sabbath when Ian Gillan sang for them. To paraphrase something Brian said years ago, I would rather see Paul going full pelt, mistakes and all, rather than having him stop to read the prompter every time he forgets a line or two. |
August R. 15.09.2008 05:39 |
turini wrote: i can count many times where Paul forgets the lyrics :(Did you also count how many times Brian hit the wrong chord/note? It seems some Queen fans feel the need to complain about every little mistake Paul makes while ignoring the lapses of their own precious Queen heroes. |
cmsdrums 15.09.2008 07:11 |
The lyrics teleprompters are used by a hell of a lot of bands, but are usually 'hidden' inside on stage monitor wedges so that to the audience it just looks like a speaker. Guns n Roses used them every show on the Use Your Illusions tours, and Axl wote the bloomin' songs! I can therefore forgive Paul Rodgers the odd slip up when trying to remember 30 odd songs, most of which he'd never heard before forming QPR, and others of his own which were years and years old! |
Brian_Mays_Wig 15.09.2008 07:23 |
I'd like to know when Brian is going to get the solo right on the intro to One Vision, he totally ballsed it up at Hyde Park and now again last week, he's only got to watch the Wembley DVD! |
Major Tom 15.09.2008 10:05 |
I really have nothing to complain about exept that I think that SMGO settles better in the later part of the set than in the early. Also it might just be me but is Brin struggeling at times? He still plays like a god but he makes a couple of easy mistakes IMO, then again, it's the first gig. |
Jjeroen 15.09.2008 10:21 |
henke1980 wrote: I really have nothing to complain about exept that I think that SMGO settles better in the later part of the set than in the early. Also it might just be me but is Brin struggeling at times? He still plays like a god but he makes a couple of easy mistakes IMO, then again, it's the first gig.Err... he's been struggling for almost 10 years now... You never noticed before?? |
Brian_Mays_Wig 15.09.2008 10:55 |
Jjeroen wrote:I thought the guitar on the 2005 tour was fantastic, especially AKOM and TSMGO, close to the originals, but recently there has been some total fuck ups! I think he sometimes tries to be a bit too clever, he should just keep it simple.henke1980 wrote: I really have nothing to complain about exept that I think that SMGO settles better in the later part of the set than in the early. Also it might just be me but is Brin struggeling at times? He still plays like a god but he makes a couple of easy mistakes IMO, then again, it's the first gig.Err... he's been struggling for almost 10 years now... You never noticed before?? |
Major Tom 15.09.2008 10:59 |
BTW who was that blonde chick they kept zooming in? She was kinda hot. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 15.09.2008 11:03 |
Wasnt she the patron of the Aids charity they were playing for or something....ill try n find a link. |
Major Tom 15.09.2008 11:04 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote:I agree with Brian Mays wig, I've never heard him play this "bad", I really don't mind that he misses a few notes here and there but it kinda makes me sad if it's so that age has gotten to him. The first time it hit me was at the 46664 gig earlier this summer. One Vision more or less was a bit Blurry Vision.Jjeroen wrote:I thought the guitar on the 2005 tour was fantastic, especially AKOM and TSMGO, close to the originals, but recently there has been some total fuck ups! I think he sometimes tries to be a bit too clever, he should just keep it simple.henke1980 wrote: I really have nothing to complain about exept that I think that SMGO settles better in the later part of the set than in the early. Also it might just be me but is Brin struggeling at times? He still plays like a god but he makes a couple of easy mistakes IMO, then again, it's the first gig.Err... he's been struggling for almost 10 years now... You never noticed before?? |
Brian_Mays_Wig 15.09.2008 11:14 |
Just listen to the HTF solo from last week...ouch. link |
Jjeroen 15.09.2008 12:54 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Wasnt she the patron of the Aids charity they were playing for or something....ill try n find a link.Yes, Elena Something... head of the Ukrainian Aids foundation. |
Jjeroen 15.09.2008 12:56 |
henke1980 wrote:No sorry, I went to see the band ten times on the 2005 tour (and heard ALL the shows in some way)... but on EVERY occasion Brian made more then one painfull fuckup...Brian_Mays_Wig wrote:I agree with Brian Mays wig, I've never heard him play this "bad", I really don't mind that he misses a few notes here and there but it kinda makes me sad if it's so that age has gotten to him. The first time it hit me was at the 46664 gig earlier this summer. One Vision more or less was a bit Blurry Vision.Jjeroen wrote:I thought the guitar on the 2005 tour was fantastic, especially AKOM and TSMGO, close to the originals, but recently there has been some total fuck ups! I think he sometimes tries to be a bit too clever, he should just keep it simple.henke1980 wrote: I really have nothing to complain about exept that I think that SMGO settles better in the later part of the set than in the early. Also it might just be me but is Brin struggeling at times? He still plays like a god but he makes a couple of easy mistakes IMO, then again, it's the first gig.Err... he's been struggling for almost 10 years now... You never noticed before?? He was in better shape in the US though. And let's not forget the stints they pulled in the years before QPR. Anyone remember Amsterdam?? (Musically I wish I didn't... ;-) |
thecross_argentina 15.09.2008 14:02 |
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Major Tom 15.09.2008 15:40 |
Jjeroen wrote:You may be right, I only saw the Stockholm gig and haven't really listened to anyother bootleg from that tour. And I guess I can't count the Sheffield DVD as it has prob. been "fixed". What a shame, but hey they still got some magic. And "the Amsterdam incident" must have gone me by...What happened? Poor playing?henke1980 wrote:No sorry, I went to see the band ten times on the 2005 tour (and heard ALL the shows in some way)... but on EVERY occasion Brian made more then one painfull fuckup... He was in better shape in the US though. And let's not forget the stints they pulled in the years before QPR. Anyone remember Amsterdam?? (Musically I wish I didn't... ;-)Brian_Mays_Wig wrote:I agree with Brian Mays wig, I've never heard him play this "bad", I really don't mind that he misses a few notes here and there but it kinda makes me sad if it's so that age has gotten to him. The first time it hit me was at the 46664 gig earlier this summer. One Vision more or less was a bit Blurry Vision.Jjeroen wrote:I thought the guitar on the 2005 tour was fantastic, especially AKOM and TSMGO, close to the originals, but recently there has been some total fuck ups! I think he sometimes tries to be a bit too clever, he should just keep it simple.henke1980 wrote: I really have nothing to complain about exept that I think that SMGO settles better in the later part of the set than in the early. Also it might just be me but is Brin struggeling at times? He still plays like a god but he makes a couple of easy mistakes IMO, then again, it's the first gig.Err... he's been struggling for almost 10 years now... You never noticed before?? |
Jjeroen 15.09.2008 16:20 |
LOL! 'Poor' is a major understatement. EVERYTHING was wrong about that performance... and that on national tv... Ouch! ROTC indeed has overdubs. As has 'Super Live in Japan'. (And 'Live in Kharkiv' the official DVD will have them again for sure.) |
justys2 15.09.2008 16:27 |
I'm reading this topic and I can't believe there are so many negative opinions about Brian's playing. I watched the whole concert twice and really he did a great job. And Last Horizone, Bijou...it was wonderful. And what a great guitar playing in Shooting star, Bad company... He plays really good. Yes there were some mistakes but at least when he makes a mistake he can cover it quite well...and I don't know the guitarist who doesn't make mistakes. It's a normal thing when you play such a long concert...Some of you seems to complain that he didn't play the solo for exaple in One vision like during the Wembey concert. You know maybe it doesn't mean he plays it wrong...he just plays it differently. I'm pretty sure he didn't forget how to play it. For me he was amazing. As usuall. He's still one of the greatest guitarist in the world without a doubt. And as for the concert it was awesome. Roger and Paul also did a great job. Really it was the first concert of the tour and it was so good...and it can be only better. I can't wait to see them in Berlin. Only 6 days left and I'm so excited:) |
Crazy LittleThing 15.09.2008 20:55 |
Prompter? What prompter? *falls off stage |
FatBumGirl 16.09.2008 04:07 |
God, I'm glad my Hubby hasnt read this thread! He's never seen Queen before and had high expectations just like I have.Hope they've got it together by Oct 13th! |
Mr. Scully 16.09.2008 04:43 |
OK, my opinion: - Paul forgets the lyrics - hard to blame him, they're not his songs. He won't forget them anymore after a few gigs - Roger's voice is in bad shape... and the overall backing vocals were REALLY weird (deep), mainly in C-lebrity - setlist boring but as Barbara pointed out, we get 147 minutes of music, that's cool :-) - longer Brighton Rock solo would be better BUT - I'm thankful the painful Chinese Torture solo has been replaced by Bijou. Great choice. - I LOVE the giant screen actually :-) - no pyros, that's a big shame - Say It's Not True is too slow! The final part must be faster, just like in the studio version - replacing Can't Get Enough with Shooting Star was a great idea - no complaints about Brian's playing... but then, I'm not a guitarist :) |
Hankster 16.09.2008 05:27 |
Brian also made big fuck ups during most Queen concerts; he totally ruined the One Vision solo @ Wembley '86, and his solo during Somebody to Love @ FMT was also overdubbed for instance. I agree that he made a bit too many mistakes during the Kharkov concert, but I guess it's more 'cause of it being the first gig than it has something to do with Brian's age. |
pittrek 16.09.2008 05:31 |
+ fantastic intro + including Bijou + removing Can't Get Enough, and These Are The Days + including Cosmos Rockin' + Roger's solo, the best thing I have seen + great choice of songs - Roger's voice :( - terrible voice of somebody from Danny / Jamie / Spike trio - they didn't throw out Crazy Little Thing Called Love, I Want To Break Free and Magic - not enough TCR songs, I want to hear Warboys |
queenside 16.09.2008 07:03 |
i think the concert was very good, i would say it's actually great considering that it's the first one, it can only get better. great tight sound, paul looks much more comfortable with his role than 3 years ago (european tour) and his voice is in top form,39 played by whole band (like homage to queen in 70's), it's fantastic how roger starts his drum solo while the whole drums are being put together, little bit of brighton rock solo + bijou is better than whole brighton rock solo, bad company is great add to setlist (i hope they'll play fire and water also) and new tracks (especially cosmos rockin') sounded so much fun live, really great hard rock song. |
JDL2nd 16.09.2008 07:13 |
I've seen the whole show and at some moments it sounded and looked like a big rehearsel to me. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it and it was a great show, but not as good as it could be. Especially Brian looked uncomfortable with some songs and did fuck up some normally wise cool solo's. A little more practice and experience during the tour and they will sound fantastic !They played a hell of a lot songs and I don't think they will play that many songs during the tour. Now they played 30 songs I guess and I think this will be reduced to 25 songs during the concerts of the tour. What a didn't like was the fact how they ended every song, it was the same everytime. But there were also a lot of highlights : - The new DW drumkit of roger. I think it looked really cool and sounded great. - The intro with One Vision - '39 with the whole band on the front. - Roger isn't a very technical drummer, but man that drumsolo rocks !!! I think he really proves that he is a great rockdrummer - The guitar solo with Bijou - all the Paul Rodgers song, especially 'bad company' - 'The cosmos rocks'seems to create a great rocking atmosphere I think they should drop : - A kind of magic - Radio gaga with Paul singing the whole song, he just doesn't have the right voice for this one - Bohemian Rhapsody But I really look forward to see them in Antwerpen and in Rotterdam !!! cheers!! - |
Jjeroen 16.09.2008 07:24 |
Watched it another time now. Although Brian DOES make some big cockups, there is several moments in the show that he plays absolutely SPOT ON. A lot better then anytime I heard him play on the previous tour. In this show there were some moments that he realy impressed me again!! And I am hard to impress :-) Paul did not have one of his better days. He loses lyricks, doesn't sing with his heart all the time as he is only watching the monitor. GaGa works with his voice (if he knows the lyricks it will sound great this way. But he ruined a couple of songs). The harmonies are terrible!! Bring back the vocoder they used on the US tour! Roger should sing SINT before his solo! The solo is FANTASTIC!! But this PLUS IILWMC wears him out and he cannot get a grip on his voice after it. Having said that, drumming-wise Roger was in UBELIEVABLY good shape!! BIJOU gave me goosebums. Again. But Brian could leave out Last Horizon anytime. For me it's either LH or Bijou... the last one preferred. Some of the screenimages are just stupid. (Just like at Brixton last time :-) The roger+danny solo is nice. Something original! Loved the full band version of 39. What the hell happened during I Want It All???? The whole band screwed up...! This was the worst rendition I ever heard them play... :-( You can also tell from the audience, that the show loses it's pace and tension. First half hour is great - second half our is a bit less energetic and after that the atmosphere goes down down down... luckily they pick it up again for the last hour. All in all, the setlist was fine. LONG!! And my top 3 of favourite PR songs played. Yay! Then again, I could REALY do without AOBTD (or maybe some other Queen-hit) for something else. Though like someone else said, they play for almost 2,5 hours!! Come on!! I'm not in need to hear more new songs, only a couple. Would like to hear Time to Shine and War Boys. Adding those would be nuff for me. All in all, they did screw up on more then one occasion, not all the songs where played at the best they can, but I still think the major part of the show was great. Doing this show, in this way, was a good thing. It brings SO much pressure to do your very first show to SUCH a HUGE audience and live on tv. Respect! (But it seems that especially Brian feeds on this - the more pressure there is, the better he performs.) I certainly AM looking forward to next week!! Saturday Berlin!!! |
justys2 16.09.2008 08:08 |
Me too. But It's on Sunday not Saturday:) I really can't wait:) |
Jjeroen 16.09.2008 09:24 |
Ah, You're right! ...But I'll arrive in Berlin already on Saturday! ;-) |
Erin 16.09.2008 10:06 |
I LOVE Roger doing his solo at the end of the catwalk. That is the coolest shit ever. I'm going to FREAK when I finally get to see that next year! :-)) That and Bijou, of course, were the highlights for me. |
pow wow 16.09.2008 10:28 |
Cant disagree with anything Jeroen said. As Roger gets older he's having to use a bit more technique and its great!! His hi-hats are a bit loud sometimes I thought. I loved Bad Company, hope it stays. |
kingogre 16.09.2008 10:40 |
They looked great and sounded great, except for a few mistakes that always happens. The screen is sensational. Paul seemed a bit nervous or maybe overwhelmed by the huge crowd. People seemed to really enjoy the show, both the classics, Pauls songs and the new songs. They really look in good shape and seem hungry. Just compare with the premier if the last tour. Setlist was a bit too much same as last time, there are plenty of both unplayed hits and some lessheard gems that could be thrown in. Headlong, Sail away sweet sister, who wants to live forever, innuendo, too much love will kill you, its late or save me maybe? But then again in a setting like this it would be very unwise not to stick with the safecards. And there is always Pauls unfamiliarity with the material to take into account. It is also a nice very long setlist so no reason to complain really. John is very much missed though, would be even better if he was playing aswell. |
Brian_Mays_Wig 16.09.2008 11:44 |
Hey......did you notice the shameless bit of plugging by Brian on Bad Company??? Trying to sell a few guitars are we??!! |
Erin 16.09.2008 11:54 |
Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Hey......did you notice the shameless bit of plugging by Brian on Bad Company??? Trying to sell a few guitars are we??!!Ha...yeah..that was subtle, eh? ;-) |
Erin 16.09.2008 11:54 |
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gnomo 16.09.2008 12:12 |
... well, I suppose that was simply meant to help him and his tech, both aging and with failing eyesight, to identify the guitar quickly and surely in the changing stage lights... :-P :-D |
Erin 16.09.2008 12:33 |
^LOL^ |
Holly2003 16.09.2008 13:02 |
The concert is on YouTube in good quality. If you watch just all the Paul Rodgers songs this is an amazing performance. Brian & Rog make an excellent backing band for Free and Bad Company material. Also, the Cosmos Rocks sounds pretty good too. It's only when they play Queen songs that the inevitable mental comparison with Fred begins. I find it hard to listen to PR singing BoRap and Radio Ga Ga. |
FatBumGirl 16.09.2008 13:14 |
Did they keep the setlist the same all through the last tour? I was hoping for a few surprises when I go to the O2! When I went to see Prince at the O2 doing his 21 nights ,every night was different was I spoilt ? |
Jjeroen 16.09.2008 14:01 |
FatBumGirl wrote: Did they keep the setlist the same all through the last tour? I was hoping for a few surprises when I go to the O2! When I went to see Prince at the O2 doing his 21 nights ,every night was different was I spoilt ?Most definately! There is only few bands that change their setlists. R.E.M. plays a TOTALLY different set every night. Nine Inch Nails does... Can't think of any other examples right now. |
Erin 16.09.2008 14:06 |
Jjeroen wrote: Can't think of any other examples right now.I'm pretty sure Pearl Jam changes up their setlist every night. |
Tero 16.09.2008 14:20 |
Jjeroen wrote:I wouldn't call the R.E.M setlist totally different... About two thirds of the songs are the same from night to night, but that of course puts Queen to shame.FatBumGirl wrote: Did they keep the setlist the same all through the last tour? I was hoping for a few surprises when I go to the O2! When I went to see Prince at the O2 doing his 21 nights ,every night was different was I spoilt ?Most definately! There is only few bands that change their setlists. R.E.M. plays a TOTALLY different set every night. Nine Inch Nails does... Can't think of any other examples right now. Prince is his own league of course. During the two evenings (and three shows) out of the 21 I was in London, there was about four hours of different material... Queen hasn't played that much material live IN TOTAL since Greatest Hits was released! |
Jjeroen 16.09.2008 15:07 |
Jjeroen wrote: All in all, the setlist was fine. LONG!! And my top 3 of favourite PR songs played. Yay! Then again, I could REALY do without AOBTD (or maybe some other Queen-hit) for something else. Though like someone else said, they play for almost 2,5 hours!! Come on!! I'm not in need to hear more new songs, only a couple. Would like to hear Time to Shine and War Boys. Adding those would be nuff for me.AAAHHH! I did not mean that if they play WARBOYS that they can drop SHOOTING STAR!!! (For those that do not know, that's what they did in Moscow second night...) Why?! It's my favourite song and it was one of the very few 'new' things they played!! They better bring out both songs in Berlin! |
thunderbolt 31742 17.09.2008 01:16 |
Count me as not a fan of the intro. The intro tape goes on too long and seems disjointed, I'm not a fan of using One Vision again (and certainly not a fan of cutting it in half), and chopping out most of TYMD to make a slick intro medley is downright sacrilege. Keep it simple--open with the Cosmos tape leading into the full Cosmos, then play TYMD in its entirety. Don't reuse an old song and cut the whole intro into pieces. |
Jjeroen 17.09.2008 06:41 |
Intro is fine with me. Too long?? LOL... I was at Brixton!! ;-) |
eggy 17.09.2008 06:58 |
Set was always going to be standard. 95% of bands only change 1 or 2 songs a night tops. I am sure Q+PR will do the same. Prince, as already mentioned, is a different entitity in himself - I saw 8 shows of the 21 - only got bored when he got fans on stage for the extended jams. For my 2pence, not overly impressed with the setlist - seems very close to the 2005 one - but I guess there are 8-10 songs which 'must' be in the setlist which doesn't give much leverage by the time you add the new ones and add some tracks for Paul fan's. LOML and '39 will be great as ever. TSMGO so early seems odd to me. Won't listen to any boots till after the first O2 gig so can't really comment till after that. |
Cwazy little thing 17.09.2008 10:49 |
Got to say I think the criticisms are mostly overreactions: its the first night of the tour - you expect some mistakes. As for Brians playing - I think he got a bit rusty in the long period with little activity, and now doesnt leave his comfort zone too often or really push his playing, but Bri playing at 80% of his very best is better than most guitarists can muster. I also think some people are saying he's making mistakes on solos when in fact he's just playing something different to what is on record - thats not a mistake, its just he cant be bothered relearning a 20 year old intro solo note for note or whatever, so just noodles around a bit differently each time. In 2005 they all got better as the tour went on, and I expect the same again. As for this talk of overdubs and suchlike from the Sheffield gig - apart from a few edits I was under the impression this one was "as heard on the night"? God knows why we would need overdubs - the bootleg I've got from Manchester a few days earlier shows they were extremely tight by that stage in the tour. |
Jjeroen 17.09.2008 11:19 |
Cwazy little thing wrote: I also think some people are saying he's making mistakes on solos when in fact he's just playing something different to what is on record - thats not a mistake, its just he cant be bothered relearning a 20 year old intro solo note for note or whatever, so just noodles around a bit differently each time. .No honey, sorry... I CAN tell the difference between an improvisation and a string of false notes! (And I just need to watch my cat. Everytime she flies towards the curtains, I know enough :-) |
im_on_the_wembley_dvd 17.09.2008 11:27 |
MEEEOOOW ! |
Marcos Napier 17.09.2008 17:30 |
A few comments: Paul's voice fits surprisingly nice with some songs, especially I want it all and (to me, a real surprise) I want to break free. But in others like AOBTD, it just doesn't work. The harder it is, the better I guess. A very nice thing was to have another guitarist on stage. This way Brian could do what he does best, and he was very good although a bit "rusty" sometimes. Roger was perfect as usual. The audience was huge, but wasn't in the mood it seems. Very lukewarm. Maybe because they didn't have the opportunity to know Queen when they were in their peak. Paul's voice and stage presence are definitely very very different from you-know-who (there's no point in telling this again and again and again), but it seems that his voice was much more well preserved over the years than Freddie's (and many other old singers) would be and this is a good point too. It wasn't a "disaster" or "embarassing". It was just... different. |
pcgenius9 18.09.2008 02:39 |
I think the concert was generally good. I think the problem is that some of the songs that should be very powerful come across as quite weak. However, Cosmos Rockin' is brilliant live. The guys looked very comfortable performing it and the audience could pick up on that. It's a great song to get the audience moving for the encore - just a shame that they have moved Show Must Go On inbetween on later shows to split up the style :( |
jeffuk49 18.09.2008 04:53 |
love to see PR perhaps visit the Innuendo album a bit more, think his voice would suit the rockers wild wind, innuendo, headlong etc swop tsmgo for one of these and even akom for say princes the universe and perhaps do straight swops from the albums, like break free for tear it up etc |
jeffuk49 18.09.2008 06:49 |
just subtle changes like that would turn a great concert/ tour into an amazing one for all of us die hard fans, i was going on my travels like last time, but instead gonna see a few uk shows because of the static set list, if however things change over the tour i might hit a few more dates and i expect most of the diehard fans feel the same |
Tomcaster 18.09.2008 08:43 |
Looking at the set list I am rather dissapointed. They kept the majority of songs from the last tour. They should treat this tour as a chance to cover as much 'new old' territory as possible 1. How about 'Stone Cold Crazy' instead of 'Tie Your Mother Down'? 2. How about 'Innuendo' instead of 'BoRap'? 3. How about 'Spread Your Wings' instead of 'I Want to Break Free'? 4. How about 'Headlong' instead of 'I Want It All'? 5. How about 'Dreamer's Ball' instead of 'Love of My Life'? 6. How about "Somebody To Love" instead of "A Kind Of Magic"? 7. How about 'Princess of The Universe' instead of 'One Vision'? 8. How about 'Sleeping On The Sidewalk' instead of 'Crazy Little Thing Called Love'? 6. Paul: How about 'Deal with the Preacher' instead of 'Feel Like Making Love'? The Cosmos Rocks songs are chosen fine. My favourites from the album, anyway. |
PieterMC 18.09.2008 08:44 |
Tomcaster wrote: 1. How about 'Stone Cold Crazy' instead of 'Tie Your Mother Down'?As much as I would love to hear it I do not think Paul could sing it. He would get lost in the lyrics. |
jeffuk49 18.09.2008 13:58 |
how about a juke box, we put money in at the start and they play the songs sat 20 pence a song lol |