Soul Brother 14.09.2008 17:22 |
Disappointing review of The Cosmos Rocks in The Observer today. Peter Kimpton The Observer, Sunday September 14 2008 Oh dear. Imagine Brian got his astrophysics PhD in '72, took that career path instead, and only formed a band now, aged 61. The result might be pub rock tosh with stadium reverb, Mud/'Quo boogie ('Cosmos Rockin"), anthemic mush ('Call Me'), and lyrics like 'I've got a pain in my memory'. What an astronomically bad parallel universe. Queen's star is dead. |
Ken8 14.09.2008 23:36 |
Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career. |
Knute 15.09.2008 01:16 |
Excellent job of spreading the negativity Ken8. Keep it up bro. You're doing great. |
Treasure Moment 15.09.2008 02:16 |
Ken8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
rockthecosmos2008 15.09.2008 02:43 |
Bollocks to the observer and all the reveiws, The Miracle got a bad review, but it's still a great album, long live Queen, See you in Birmingham oct 16th 2008 |
kingogre 15.09.2008 02:46 |
Ken8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.A career of crappy reviews. Id say they are carrying on the Queen tradition very good in that regard. |
Wiley 15.09.2008 03:12 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Ken8 wrote: yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this?Paraphrasing another forum member: People who complain about a band's legacy being "ruined" are like children complaining that their parents are spending their inheritance. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 03:16 |
Wiley wrote: Many people praise Queen for playing many genres but now it's a bad thing?When it's done so poorly, yes. It's ridiculous to compare Queen's multi genre output of the past with this poor effort. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 03:21 |
tilltheendoftime wrote: Bollocks to the observer and all the reveiws, The Miracle got a bad review, but it's still a great album, long live QueenThe Miracle, interesting comparison. I like the overlooking of the current state of critical thoughts on Queen. It's pretty well a given that, despite poor critical responses in the past, most music critics have come to admit (some begrudgingly) that Queen with Freddie Mercury, and Fred himself, were infact poorly treated at the time. The Cosmos Rocks only highlights the fact that those glory days are beyond them. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 03:23 |
Knute wrote: Excellent job of spreading the negativity Ken8. Keep it up bro. You're doing great.What do you expect? Because I've been a fan of Queen for thirty years I should accept any old guff they release? I don't have to spread any negativity. In the real world it seems people with much wider platforms are queing up to tell it like it is. |
Major Tom 15.09.2008 03:55 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Ken8------------Yeah, Ivé seen a couple of good reviews right here. Not "professional" but good reviews. TM------ Ok, FUCK OFF OUTTA HERE! Noone want's your opinion about anything cause we all know you're so full of shit that it comes through your nose when you sneeze. If you want, I can hook you up with a fullsize Freddie Mercury sexdoll with phrases like: "Is that all you got?" and "I need a bigger one!", so we might not see your bullshit threads and replys for some time. They make me throw up a little in my mouth everytime I see them.Ken8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
brians wig 15.09.2008 04:01 |
I knew that the album would split fandom right down the middle. At this stage, all I'm prepared to say to those people who think the album is rubbish is this: If you lived in 1974 and all you'd heard was Queen & Queen II, what would you have made of The Miracle? Nuff said. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 04:07 |
brians wig wrote: I knew that the album would split fandom right down the middle. At this stage, all I'm prepared to say to those people who think the album is rubbish is this: If you lived in 1974 and all you'd heard was Queen & Queen II, what would you have made of The Miracle? Nuff said.What a inane, rubbish hypothetical. What if The Cosmos Rocks followed any Queen album at any time? What if you heard Made In Heaven, then Cosmos Rocks? Big step down. A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse. |
Holly2003 15.09.2008 04:22 |
Ken8 wrote:A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse.Who exactly do you expect the band to be "in touch" with Ken? |
kingogre 15.09.2008 04:49 |
Ken8 wrote:What is bad or not is just someones opinion. Stop trying to shov yours down everyone elses throat. There ARE lots of people here who thinks this is a good album. Their opinions are every bit as valid as yours. So it isnt to your tastes, thats sad for you if you were really looking forward to this. But it is very much to my taste and to any others. Thats ethe way music works, and thats the way with all of Queens albums.brians wig wrote: I knew that the album would split fandom right down the middle. At this stage, all I'm prepared to say to those people who think the album is rubbish is this: If you lived in 1974 and all you'd heard was Queen & Queen II, what would you have made of The Miracle? Nuff said.What a inane, rubbish hypothetical. What if The Cosmos Rocks followed any Queen album at any time? What if you heard Made In Heaven, then Cosmos Rocks? Big step down. A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse. Cant help but wondering what some people were expecting though... |
Major Tom 15.09.2008 05:18 |
I myself think the album is great. But like many has stated, this is no longer Freddie Mercurys Queen, it's Brian, Roger and Pauls Queen. So I wasn't sure if I was going to like it. But I did and I'm glad they keep their careers going. The only bad thing about the album is it's title and the title track; The Cosmos Rocks. IMO Still burning would be a better choice of title. And I think many woulod agree with me. It's more likely to have a negative approach to the album with a title like that. Am I wrong? |
Mr Mercury 15.09.2008 05:42 |
brians wig wrote: I knew that the album would split fandom right down the middle. At this stage, all I'm prepared to say to those people who think the album is rubbish is this: If you lived in 1974 and all you'd heard was Queen & Queen II, what would you have made of The Miracle? Nuff said.I am one of those who were there at the beginning. And you are right - I struggle with The Miracle to be honest. Of all the albums I have, this one is up there with Hot Space on the "rarely played" list. |
s.m. 15.09.2008 05:48 |
henke1980 wrote: this is no longer Freddie Mercurys Queen, it's Pauls Queen.mhahahahahaha |
deleted user 15.09.2008 05:56 |
objective people think that the new QPR album is average, if not bad. blind fans who cant accept to say a bad word towards two members of the glorious band called QUEEN just get angry and say tthe new album is brillant this is the scenario, in my opinion. By the way: yes, I think I'm objective |
Ken8 15.09.2008 06:16 |
Holly2003 wrote:Ken8 wrote:Oh, I don't know. Something unique that engages the masses like the old days.A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse.Who exactly do you expect the band to be "in touch" with Ken? |
Ken8 15.09.2008 06:18 |
kingogre wrote:LOL! Priceless. As long as people say it's good, I'll keep saying it's average and far below their talent.Ken8 wrote:What is bad or not is just someones opinion. Stop trying to shov yours down everyone elses throat.brians wig wrote: I knew that the album would split fandom right down the middle. At this stage, all I'm prepared to say to those people who think the album is rubbish is this: If you lived in 1974 and all you'd heard was Queen & Queen II, what would you have made of The Miracle? Nuff said.What a inane, rubbish hypothetical. What if The Cosmos Rocks followed any Queen album at any time? What if you heard Made In Heaven, then Cosmos Rocks? Big step down. A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse. |
kingogre 15.09.2008 06:19 |
wrote: objective people think that the new QPR album is average, if not bad. blind fans who cant accept to say a bad word towards two members of the glorious band called QUEEN just get angry and say tthe new album is brillant this is the scenario, in my opinion. By the way: yes, I think I'm objectiveIf you looked at my record collection youd know that Im definitely not a stepford fan;) |
kingogre 15.09.2008 06:20 |
Ken8 wrote:Just as long as you dont try to force us to agree with you;)kingogre wrote:LOL! Priceless. As long as people say it's good, I'll keep saying it's average and far below their talent.Ken8 wrote:What is bad or not is just someones opinion. Stop trying to shov yours down everyone elses throat.brians wig wrote: I knew that the album would split fandom right down the middle. At this stage, all I'm prepared to say to those people who think the album is rubbish is this: If you lived in 1974 and all you'd heard was Queen & Queen II, what would you have made of The Miracle? Nuff said.What a inane, rubbish hypothetical. What if The Cosmos Rocks followed any Queen album at any time? What if you heard Made In Heaven, then Cosmos Rocks? Big step down. A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse. Cheers pal! |
Holly2003 15.09.2008 06:20 |
Ken8 wrote:Holly2003 wrote:That's a bit vague. Can you be more specific?Ken8 wrote:Oh, I don't know. Something unique that engages the masses like the old days. Kids do buy rock albums today. I'm not sure how many will get into this relic.A bad record is a bad record whenever it's released. A bad, out of touch album is even worse.Who exactly do you expect the band to be "in touch" with Ken? |
kingogre 15.09.2008 06:25 |
They are not 30 anymore and this is not 1986.What did you expect? How many artists appeal to teenagers today? With or without Freddie it would never have been the same. Im just glad they do what they feel like instead of trying to imitate themselves when they were half the age they are now. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 06:41 |
They don't mind jamming with the Foo Fighters, or being inducted into VH1 Hall of Fame. All whilst being cheered on by "kids". I'm yet to be convinced those same kids will embrace this new album. Another example of out of touch is the phony political statement that is "Warboys" With people everywhere knowing someone posted overseas, the "Warboys" held in such contempt by Rodgers+Queen, that song is flat out misguided from any side of politics. How that song will play in the southern United States, I can only imagine. At least have the guts to go after the Bush/Blair/Howards or Bin Ladens of the world who keep sending these kids into wars. Or the companies making millions out of it, not the kids doing their duty. Too many young people have lost their lives recently doing what their country asked them to. The soldiers shouldn't be the ones held in contempt by old rock stars. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 06:43 |
kingogre wrote: Im just glad they do what they feel like instead of trying to imitate themselves when they were half the age they are now.Except when they sample "WWRY" on their "new, different" album or when their live playlist is 98% back catalogue |
GiantSpider 15.09.2008 06:54 |
My problem with Warboys isn't the statement. Its the production, ever since I heard C-lebrity, i've thought that they've tried too hard. I guess thats what happens when you have 6 people producing an album. |
eiddref 15.09.2008 06:57 |
This is a Paul Rodgers +Queen album. |
Holly2003 15.09.2008 07:02 |
Ken8 wrote: They don't mind jamming with the Foo Fighters, or being inducted into VH1 Hall of Fame. All whilst being cheered on by "kids". I'm yet to be convinced those same kids will embrace this new album. Another example of out of touch is the phony political statement that is "Warboys" With people everywhere knowing someone posted overseas, the "Warboys" held in such contempt by Rodgers+Queen, that song is flat out misguided from any side of politics. How that song will play in the southern United States, I can only imagine. At least have the guts to go after the Bush/Blair/Howards or Bin Ladens of the world who keep sending these kids into wars. Or the companies making millions out of it, not the kids doing their duty. Too many young people have lost their lives recently doing what their country asked them to. The soldiers shouldn't be the ones held in contempt by old rock stars.Songs mean different things to different people. The first thing I thought about when I heard this song is kids in Africa carrying AK47s - war boys. However, it could also be interpreted as a criticism of the military in general, and in particular how they recruit kids to fight. Do a google search on child soldiers and the UK features prominently. The US also send recruiters into high schools as far as I'm aware. There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone writing a song about this. In fact, rock and roll has always been about rebellion, and it would be odd to say the least to hear any of these three write about supporting war and recruiting child soldiers. ps regarding "companies making millions" maybe you aren't aware that RT has done a cover of Dylan's Masters of War? In any event, if Queen did a bunch of songs along the lines you say above, a whole bunch of fans who are non-political would be alienated. They can't win really. |
kingogre 15.09.2008 07:04 |
Rolling Stones performed with Christina Aguilera on the last tour, how many of her fans went out and bought A bigger bang? How does it matter to anything? How many teenagers bought that album at all? How many teenagers bought the latest Bruce Springsteen album? How many bought the Whos latest? Things change, doesnt mean its crap because of that.. Besides theyve already done the appeal to kids thing, it was called Queen+5ive. No more of that thanks.. Ive met enough militaries in my life to understand where Warboys come from. Its not a materpiece but it doesnt upset me. I also agree with what Holly wrote. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 07:45 |
Holly2003 wrote: maybe you aren't aware that RT has done a cover of Dylan's Masters of War?Yes, and he also sang "Dear Mr Murdoch" Today, instead of attacking Murdoch he'd go after the guy on the corner selling his newspapers |
Ken8 15.09.2008 07:47 |
kingogre wrote: Besides theyve already done the appeal to kids thing, it was called Queen+5ive. No more of that thanks..That, I agree. But I'm not talking pop music crossovers, I'm still talking rock, their genre. Foo Fighters etc |
Holly2003 15.09.2008 07:52 |
Ken8 wrote:Really? I don't recall any songs on the new album about that. I do recall a recent 46664 concert though...Holly2003 wrote: maybe you aren't aware that RT has done a cover of Dylan's Masters of War?Yes, and he also sang "Dear Mr Murdoch" Today, instead of attacking Murdoch he'd go after the guy on the corner selling his newspapers |
Ken8 15.09.2008 07:56 |
"Happiness" 1994 |
eiddref 15.09.2008 07:58 |
Herald-Sun in Melbourne yesterday. Ordinary review, listed "Paul Chapman" as the lead singer. Maybe his football injury is worse than we thought. |
Holly2003 15.09.2008 08:06 |
Ken8 wrote: "Happiness" 1994Hw are those about kicking the poor sod on the corner who sells The Sun? |
Fastguitars 15.09.2008 08:07 |
Well, ive not heard the album.....seems im one of those long time early fans that prefers to think that Freddie was "Queen" and the other 3 just supported him after about the 3rd Album when he sort of totally took over the band....maybe u would disagree,but the fact is, after BoRap, "Queen" ceased to be about the band anymore, and frankly, that is acceptable, coz its Freddie's voice that was the centerpiece along with his persona.....Regarding this album?, well, it is offensive that 50% of the band calls themselves "Queen" while 100% of the point of the band is in the grave......Even John realizes this and was the first one to do the right thing....However, as Brian never felt that he was appreciated and still has that axe to grind, i guess that Rog will follow him to the grave or the next stage....whatever comes first......and oh yeah, the new album cant be any worse then Hot Space or Brian's 2nd Solo outing, however, its not a Queen album, and how do i know this?....Coz the real Queen is not singing for them anymore. |
Hutchence-NL 15.09.2008 08:52 |
Why arguing about a poor review when you still got your own opinion? When you are a music lover,or a Queen(+) fan there must be something wrong with your self esteem when you let a review be your guide. Just listen to the new album and be your own judge. Love it or hate it, but let it be! |
andyboy 15.09.2008 10:07 |
Check out the review in Classic Rock this month - 8/10 for the album. They were well impressed. I've just heard it...and so am I! |
Treasure Moment 15.09.2008 11:25 |
Fastguitars wrote: Well, ive not heard the album.....seems im one of those long time early fans that prefers to think that Freddie was "Queen" and the other 3 just supported him after about the 3rd Album when he sort of totally took over the band....maybe u would disagree,but the fact is, after BoRap, "Queen" ceased to be about the band anymore, and frankly, that is acceptable, coz its Freddie's voice that was the centerpiece along with his persona.....Regarding this album?, well, it is offensive that 50% of the band calls themselves "Queen" while 100% of the point of the band is in the grave......Even John realizes this and was the first one to do the right thing....However, as Brian never felt that he was appreciated and still has that axe to grind, i guess that Rog will follow him to the grave or the next stage....whatever comes first......and oh yeah, the new album cant be any worse then Hot Space or Brian's 2nd Solo outing, however, its not a Queen album, and how do i know this?....Coz the real Queen is not singing for them anymore.totally agree with you, its not that the others didnt have any talent cause the do, its just that freddie was the one who made the songs as good as they were. His vocals, his advices both in songwriting/structure and even telling the producer what to do. |
kingogre 15.09.2008 13:00 |
|
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 15.09.2008 13:32 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
flbond 15.09.2008 14:50 |
You are calling this a review? Those crappy lines didn't listen to the CD i think. They don't understand that this IS NOT Queen now its a new band, with new songs, and new feelings. Its a good rock album. |
Major Tom 15.09.2008 15:32 |
Adolfo wrote:If I open my window I can actually spell TM's oudeur and belive me, it's a foul stench. Luckily, it's too damn cold outside.Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
Knute 15.09.2008 22:30 |
Queen's legacy is definitely ruined now. This is best exemplified by the cheers of the happy fans in Kharkov when Freddie's voice came thru on Bijou. I'm serious! Watch the video on youtube and you'll see for yourself. Also I have it on good authority that thanks to Paul Rodgers, Queen has recently been placed one slot below the Bay City Rollers in the definitive list of greatest 70's bands. |
Matias Merçeauroix 15.09.2008 23:07 |
Knute wrote: Queen's legacy is definitely ruined now. This is best exemplified by the cheers of the happy fans in Kharkov when Freddie's voice came thru on Bijou. I'm serious! Watch the video on youtube and you'll see for yourself. Also I have it on good authority that thanks to Paul Rodgers, Queen has recently been placed one slot below the Bay City Rollers in the definitive list of greatest 70's bands. |
Ken8 15.09.2008 23:21 |
Holly2003 wrote:Oh do try and keep up.Ken8 wrote: "Happiness" 1994Hw are those about kicking the poor sod on the corner who sells The Sun? |
sanh 16.09.2008 02:21 |
I do not care to read bad reviews about Queen's new album. At least they are still out there doing what they do best. When we lost Freddie we did not know what would happen to Queen, so to still have them here (with Paul Rogers) is great. I suggest anyone who has a doubt about them should go and see them live. They are wonderful artists and lovely people. Long live Queen!!!!! |
Treasure Moment 16.09.2008 03:09 |
Adolfo wrote:silent you low creature, your words mean shit, now shut the fuck up!Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
Treasure Moment 16.09.2008 03:10 |
henke1980 wrote:fuck off, you just cant handle the truth, i only tell facts.Adolfo wrote:If I open my window I can actually spell TM's oudeur and belive me, it's a foul stench. Luckily, it's too damn cold outside.Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
Holly2003 16.09.2008 04:33 |
Ken8 wrote:It's not my fault that you can't construct an argument that makes sense.Holly2003 wrote:Oh do try and keep up.Ken8 wrote: "Happiness" 1994Hw are those about kicking the poor sod on the corner who sells The Sun? |
Major Tom 16.09.2008 05:28 |
Treasure Moment wrote:You are by far the greatest comedian I've comed across. Pathetic...henke1980 wrote:fuck off, you just cant handle the truth, i only tell facts.Adolfo wrote:If I open my window I can actually spell TM's oudeur and belive me, it's a foul stench. Luckily, it's too damn cold outside.Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
Treasure Moment 16.09.2008 05:30 |
henke1980 wrote:pathetic is your middle nameTreasure Moment wrote:You are by far the greatest comedian I've comed across. Pathetic...henke1980 wrote:fuck off, you just cant handle the truth, i only tell facts.Adolfo wrote:If I open my window I can actually spell TM's oudeur and belive me, it's a foul stench. Luckily, it's too damn cold outside.Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 16.09.2008 14:51 |
Treasure Moment wrote:is that all you got? you think that stating over and over again the same shit makes it right??henke1980 wrote:pathetic is your middle nameTreasure Moment wrote:You are by far the greatest comedian I've comed across. Pathetic...henke1980 wrote:fuck off, you just cant handle the truth, i only tell facts.Adolfo wrote:If I open my window I can actually spell TM's oudeur and belive me, it's a foul stench. Luckily, it's too damn cold outside.Treasure Moment wrote:Im so sick of you writting this shit over and over again, FUCK YOU!!!ur a fucking asshole and you fucking suck, Im fucking tired of you, you piece of rotting shit, FUCK YOU, AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU, FUCK'EM ALLKen8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.yeah it was a BAD idea to use the Queen name, why ruin their legacy with this? what truth is this you talk about? your piece of lame opinion? it counts for nothing, it is shit to me, your truth is something that I dont share, and here is why: 1. your music sucks, really horrible sounds that you compare to queen. 2.Freddie wasnt queen, and if he were, brian and roger have the full rights of using the name, and your "truth" to them mean nothing (nor to me) 3. It really anger me that u are unable of coming out with a response worthy of feeling offended, low creature? really, u are calling me low creature and expecting me to feel offended? Fuck that, give me ur stupid facts and hit me with something. If you r replying to this, write something that really offends me, stop making an ass of yourself |
kaaa 16.09.2008 22:03 |
1 star review is really poor! The first time i heard the album, i was like: "oh shit, what is this!!" really disappointed, i went on QUEENZONE to read what you people were thinking about. The majority doesn't like the new album... AM I RIGHT? It was really funny the read these angry messages, all these fighting and co. Then i played guitar for like 2 hours... I listened again to COSMOS ROCKS... i loved it!! It's a mature, creative, real creation! I still don't like COSMOS ROCKING but the rest is really good! Perhaps try to listen to it for real, not thinking about what you'd like it would be... JUST LISTEN The big problem i think it's that it's called QUEEN. That's the great mistake these guys made, they made us waiting for something that won't exist anymore.. just a thought byebye |
mworks 16.09.2008 22:09 |
PK and Ken8...add them to the list of cry babies. Let's see if you can comprehend this. Try real hard. Wipe your tears, take a breath, and try. This is not Queen. This is Queen + Paul Rogers. There it is. Cosmos Rocks is no Night at the Opera, but that's okay. It still enjoy it. |
Ken8 16.09.2008 22:12 |
Holly2003 wrote:You mean that you can't follow an argument.Ken8 wrote:It's not my fault that you can't construct an argument that makes sense.Holly2003 wrote:Oh do try and keep up.Ken8 wrote: "Happiness" 1994Hw are those about kicking the poor sod on the corner who sells The Sun? Go back and try again. Or not, seeing you're someone who thinks Cosmos is a great piece of work |
Ken8 16.09.2008 22:15 |
mworks wrote: PK and Ken8...add them to the list of cry babies. Let's see if you can comprehend this. Try real hard. Wipe your tears, take a breath, and try. This is not Queen. This is Queen + Paul Rogers. There it is. Cosmos Rocks is no Night at the Opera, but that's okay. It still enjoy it.I don't care who it is. It's crap. And considering the talent involved..... You mean to tell me that two guys on this album played on Night At The Opera???? Well, you wouldn't know it. |
skywalkr 17.09.2008 02:52 |
Well this is Queen meets Free meets 70's pop. Nothing too interesting. Nice harmonies, nice guitarwork. No surprises. "Cosmos Rockin’" - Hundreds of these...rockers "Time To Shine" - arena rocker wannabe "Still Burnin’" - Free did dozens of these "Small" - Ballad-basket stuffer...gosh "Warboys" - Free/Queen - don't catch... "We Believe" - Nice Ballad "Call Me" - Eurovision - pop...geezzz "Voodoo" - Slow Blues try "Some Things That Glitter" - Ballads...forget this "C-lebrity" - Bad Company rocker..another.. "Through The Night" - Ballad again.. "Say It’s Not True" - Flangered voc ballad "Surf’s Up . . . School’s Out!" - Another in the basket of rockers "Small (reprise)" - could do without easily Verdict: Do they try to be another Scorpions with this load of ballads or Free with the bluesy side. Can't really see why I should play this more than once in my stereo....Sorry No gems. Only decent song that deserves another play is We Believe. |
Holly2003 17.09.2008 02:53 |
Ken8 wrote:Err.. no. You said Roger is the type of person who would attack a newspaper vendor. I asked you for proof: you quoted the names of two songs to me. I asked you to explain that, but you haven't bothered. AND if you bother to actually read what I say instead of just spouting off nonsense, I said I thought the album was just okay. Now do you want to try again?Holly2003 wrote:You mean that you can't follow an argument. Go back and try again. Or not, seeing you're someone who thinks Cosmos is a great piece of workKen8 wrote:It's not my fault that you can't construct an argument that makes sense.Holly2003 wrote:Oh do try and keep up.Ken8 wrote: "Happiness" 1994Hw are those about kicking the poor sod on the corner who sells The Sun? |
Ken8 17.09.2008 03:02 |
Sorry halfwit. I said by his standards today as demonstrated on "Warboys" he wouldn't attack Murdoch, but the guy on the corner selling his newspapers. Again, do try and keep up. |
Holly2003 17.09.2008 04:04 |
Ken8 wrote: Sorry halfwit. I said by his standards today as demonstrated on "Warboys" he wouldn't attack Murdoch, but the guy on the corner selling his newspapers. Again, do try and keep up.Firstly, why the insults? Secondly, I explained to you that Warboys could have a different meaning than you think. You ignored that. So once again, provide some proof of what you're saying: explain yourself fully and clearly. btw, are you willing to admit you are wrong when you said " seeing you're someone who thinks Cosmos is a great piece of work" or are you just going to ignore that too? |
Ken8 17.09.2008 23:01 |
Holly2003 wrote:I ignored it because I don't agree with it because the lyrics are pretty obvious and dumb quite frankly, and I'm not the first person to have criticised the lyrical content. To suggest the song could have another meaning is a little weak when it's there in black & white. It's not something like "Radio Ga Ga" for instance.Ken8 wrote: Sorry halfwit. I said by his standards today as demonstrated on "Warboys" he wouldn't attack Murdoch, but the guy on the corner selling his newspapers. Again, do try and keep up.Firstly, why the insults? Secondly, I explained to you that Warboys could have a different meaning than you think. You ignored that. So once again, provide some proof of what you're saying: explain yourself fully and clearly. Look up ambiguous lyrics.....you half wit. |
Holly2003 18.09.2008 05:59 |
Ken8 wrote:Nasty little turd aren't you. The lyrics are ambiguous. It takes a certain amount of intelligence to be aware of that, which means that you can't see it.Holly2003 wrote:I ignored it because I don't agree with it because the lyrics are pretty obvious and dumb quite frankly, and I'm not the first person to have criticised the lyrical content. To suggest the song could have another meaning is a little weak when it's there in black & white. It's not something like "Radio Ga Ga" for instance. Look up ambiguous lyrics.....you half wit.Ken8 wrote: Sorry halfwit. I said by his standards today as demonstrated on "Warboys" he wouldn't attack Murdoch, but the guy on the corner selling his newspapers. Again, do try and keep up.Firstly, why the insults? Secondly, I explained to you that Warboys could have a different meaning than you think. You ignored that. So once again, provide some proof of what you're saying: explain yourself fully and clearly. |
mattw04 18.09.2008 06:28 |
They were actually going to change the name of the Band before the Album release... But then would you know who they are if they changed the name? I think people have to not look at it as Queen. Its Queen and Paul Rodgers, a new band a new sound, new music... if you dont like it then fine. I personally like it, its nice new fresh material, I like Blues music, so im quite a big fan of what they have done... It cant be that bad the album... The sold out the tour... If they had a new name... Would they sell out a tour... Some how i dont thinks so... Good luck to them, And they are doing what they enjoy so hats off to them! |
Gary bremner 18.09.2008 07:51 |
I was a huge queen fan when freddy was alive, i thought when he died so did queen. I went to sheffield for the Q&PR tour and was plesantly suprised at how well it worked. I have listened to this new album, and again i like it. Its not the queen of old, but a new queen. Some people have to get over this. Freddie is dead, maybe they should not use the queen name, but hey nobody got hurt, its only a name and an album. |
April 18.09.2008 14:28 |
Gary bremner wrote: I was a huge queen fan when freddy was alive, i thought when he died so did queen. I went to sheffield for the Q&PR tour and was plesantly suprised at how well it worked. I have listened to this new album, and again i like it. Its not the queen of old, but a new queen. Some people have to get over this. Freddie is dead, maybe they should not use the queen name, but hey nobody got hurt, its only a name and an album.I agree with the post. It's like they have waited for a decent, very long , period of mourning to pass, and have started anew. A new Queen. |
We Are The Champions 18.09.2008 15:47 |
Ken8 wrote: Anyone seen a good review yet? Cosmos Rocks, a sad footnote to an illustrious career.Seeing a favourable review of anything Queen related is like finding water on the moon - impossible!!! The press have always hated them but on this occasion I will give some creedence to the critic. Making comparisons with Freddie Mercury in Queen is inevitable - living on past glories is one common reference. |
Mat Growcott 21.09.2008 08:19 |
Ken8: I'm sure you'll quote this and then tell me I'm wrong without actually reading my post nor taking any of it in. Then you'll tell me I'm stupid and that you're right and I'm wrong. Then you may possibly throw your rattle out of the pram and tell me how you're the guy who's been listening to queen since the beginning so you're more qualified to tell me what I should like then I am. But hey, that's just how you roll. The new Queen+ Paul Rodgers album is awesome. Paul has one of the best voices in music today, up there with Roger Daltrey. The guy can embrace so many styles, as he proved in Sheffield by not only singing queen songs confidently and with full understanding of the content but by adding new life and meanings of his own to them. It is the skill of a great musician and singer to be able to do that. I think it comes down to what you listen to the original queen for. I love the fact that each were fantastic musicians and seemed to compliment each other perfectly. One of the reasons i only own two queen solo albums (Back to the light and Shove it) is for this reason. I wouldn't buy a Mercury solo album, his work is like the solo work of John Lennon to me...his great stuff was great, the rest was mediocre. Again, that is just my opinion. This topic reminds me of the people who hate Pink Floyds 'The Final Cut'. They let the fact Dave Gilmour was being arrogant and so doesn't really appear on the album get in the way of a beautiful album. And this album has many highlights. And the whole album is of a great level. If the fact that zombie Freddie doesn't appear on it makes you dislike it, then you really didn't even deserve the oppurtunity to listen to it. There was only one way you could have viewed it. Personally, I am now waiting eagerly for news of 'The Cosmos Rocks 2' :D Cya in Birmingham! 16/10 |
Ken8 21.09.2008 08:41 |
Mat Growcott wrote: Ken8: I'm sure you'll quote this and then tell me I'm wrong. If the fact that zombie Freddie doesn't appear on it makes you dislike it, then you really didn't even deserve the oppurtunity to listen to it. There was only one way you could have viewed it. Personally, I am now waiting eagerly for news of 'The Cosmos Rocks 2' :D Cya in Birmingham! 16/10Another half wit response. I keep saying, considering the talent involved, this is well below their par. |
Tero 21.09.2008 08:54 |
The sad thing about "Cosmos Rocks 2" is that this current album has already lowered the expectations for what consists a Queen album... In two years there will be reviews saying TCR2 is the best album Queen has made in 20 years, and that's accepted as a great compliment and an aknowledgement that using the Queen name was the right thing to do. :P |
kingogre 21.09.2008 12:20 |
Tero wrote: In two years there will be reviews saying TCR2 is the best album Queen has made in 20 years, and that's accepted as a great compliment and an aknowledgement that using the Queen name was the right thing to do. :PThat will be a tough time for you Tero;) |
Tero 21.09.2008 12:59 |
And you're already looking forward to that. :D |
kingogre 21.09.2008 13:46 |
Yes, its the only reason I hope they make another album..;) Maybe everyone will say how much Paul sounds like Freddie for the same reason :D |
72greenday 22.09.2008 12:10 |
Fuck critics and reviews. You guys are disrespecting Freddie and Queen by paying too much attention to critics. Let's not forget that the American press, especially Rolling Stone magazine gave very negative 1 star type reviews to A Night At The Opera, News of the World, and Jazz. Let's see what was the famous line the reviewer wrote? I'm paraphrasing but it went..."They will rock us? It's as if this british band is so egotistical and pompous they need to tell us they will rock us. They will rock us." Ben Fong-Torres?? circa 1977. |