| cmsdrums 28.08.2008 09:22 |
QOL has new news item saying that this is confirmed for 17th Nov release, with more details to follow soon. Doesn't say which year though so that could be the catch!! |
| AlexRocks 28.08.2008 10:44 |
That's pretty funny Cmsdrums! With that said this IS major news...along with the new studo l.p. "The Cosmos Rocks" being released as well! Rock on! |
| Cwazy little thing 28.08.2008 11:11 |
Good news, but I fear the price will be outrageous! Im also mildly concerned that by having the B-sides on this release, while great news for those of us who want them in good quality, when an "archive" box set happens we may end up paying again for these tracks. I would have been sure that B-sides were prime candidates to be the back bone of that box given they were at least finished ideas, and are still relatively "rare" in that only a limited number of people have official versions, and even then they'll be Vinyl. Im kinda hoping that these tracks are all available separately, or perhaps as downloads - that way I can avoid paying for all the songs I already have at least twice in my collection! |
| Benn 28.08.2008 12:17 |
You'd hope that any archive release would exclude any material previously released on CD. This would make it a stand-alone rarities set. If they choose to issue a career retrospective set as a collection, then it's likely that there will be a mixture of well-known versions of songs alongside a smattering of rarities, a-la sets by The Who and Jefferson Airplane. Tha *choice*, obviously would be the former, but should it just be sales and £ that matter, I'd expect to see the career retrospective issued. Which, I guess, this Singles Box is in itself. Let's hope for the Hot Space 12" mixes, the well-known single-only B-sides and The Works 12", extended and instrumental versions. If these are complete and have been mixed and mastered well, then it'll be a set to rival the FM box. Fingers crossed eh? |
| kohuept 28.08.2008 12:34 |
Cwazy little thing wrote: I would have been sure that B-sides were prime candidates to be the back bone of that box given they were at least finished ideas, and are still relatively "rare" in that only a limited number of people have official versions, and even then they'll be Vinyl.Many people seem to forget that several of the B-Sides were included on the Hollywood Record re-releases. Songs like Mad the Swine, See What a Fool I've Been, Chinese Torture, and I Go Crazy aren't rare at all. |
| Cwazy little thing 28.08.2008 12:46 |
kohuept wrote:Ok, they've seen an official CD release of sorts - but that was US only. Am I, or anyone else in the UK/Rest of Europe/world, really expected to have paid for an import of an album I already have just for those tracks? Excluding Chinese Torture that is, as my Parlophone version of the Miracle does include that and Hang On In There, haha.Cwazy little thing wrote: I would have been sure that B-sides were prime candidates to be the back bone of that box given they were at least finished ideas, and are still relatively "rare" in that only a limited number of people have official versions, and even then they'll be Vinyl.Many people seem to forget that several of the B-Sides were included on the Hollywood Record re-releases. Songs like Mad the Swine, See What a Fool I've Been, Chinese Torture, and I Go Crazy aren't rare at all. I refuse to pay for poor quality bootleg versions, and I wont buy imports of stuff I've already got, so as far as Im concerned a UK official release of most of these tracks on CD is a rare thing. I've actually never heard Mad The Swine for that reason. |
| Jjeroen 28.08.2008 13:00 |
Cwazy little thing wrote:...err... it was on the Headlong cd-single...?kohuept wrote:Ok, they've seen an official CD release of sorts - but that was US only. Am I, or anyone else in the UK/Rest of Europe/world, really expected to have paid for an import of an album I already have just for those tracks? Excluding Chinese Torture that is, as my Parlophone version of the Miracle does include that and Hang On In There, haha. I refuse to pay for poor quality bootleg versions, and I wont buy imports of stuff I've already got, so as far as Im concerned a UK official release of most of these tracks on CD is a rare thing. I've actually never heard Mad The Swine for that reason.Cwazy little thing wrote: I would have been sure that B-sides were prime candidates to be the back bone of that box given they were at least finished ideas, and are still relatively "rare" in that only a limited number of people have official versions, and even then they'll be Vinyl.Many people seem to forget that several of the B-Sides were included on the Hollywood Record re-releases. Songs like Mad the Swine, See What a Fool I've Been, Chinese Torture, and I Go Crazy aren't rare at all. |
| Cwazy little thing 28.08.2008 13:14 |
Jjeroen wrote:lol.Cwazy little thing wrote:...err... it was on the Headlong cd-single...?kohuept wrote:Ok, they've seen an official CD release of sorts - but that was US only. Am I, or anyone else in the UK/Rest of Europe/world, really expected to have paid for an import of an album I already have just for those tracks? Excluding Chinese Torture that is, as my Parlophone version of the Miracle does include that and Hang On In There, haha. I refuse to pay for poor quality bootleg versions, and I wont buy imports of stuff I've already got, so as far as Im concerned a UK official release of most of these tracks on CD is a rare thing. I've actually never heard Mad The Swine for that reason.Cwazy little thing wrote: I would have been sure that B-sides were prime candidates to be the back bone of that box given they were at least finished ideas, and are still relatively "rare" in that only a limited number of people have official versions, and even then they'll be Vinyl.Many people seem to forget that several of the B-Sides were included on the Hollywood Record re-releases. Songs like Mad the Swine, See What a Fool I've Been, Chinese Torture, and I Go Crazy aren't rare at all. ooooooook, well maybe I should have done my research before that post. And if Id known that I might have tried ebaying the Headlong cd single a while back when I acquired a few singles. BUT, the fact remains that some B-Sides havent seen an official UK cd release, and I was only 6 or 7 when Headlong went out - its long since been discontinued and only available second hand. (funnily enough having glanced at ebay just now I could pick it up for like 2 quid including postage, but with a singles boxset on the way I dont know if I should! hehe) |
| Benn 28.08.2008 15:22 |
To my mind, tracks like Mad The Swine etc haven't had a properly mass-market release. For example, the Headlong single would, likely, only have been bought by people into Queen at that time; the Hollywood remaster of Queen would only have been bought by US first-timers or die-hard completists. In that sense, I'd certainly term it a rarity in the same way that I'd look at I Go Crazy, Stealin' or A Human Body; I've got multiple versions of them, but they're "un-heard" enough on a regular basis to warrant rarity value. All subjective though. |
| Benn 28.08.2008 15:24 |
To my mind, tracks like Mad The Swine etc haven't had a properly mass-market release. For example, the Headlong single would, likely, only have been bought by people into Queen at that time; the Hollywood remaster of Queen would only have been bought by US first-timers or die-hard completists. In that sense, I'd certainly term it a rarity in the same way that I'd look at I Go Crazy, Stealin' or A Human Body; I've got multiple versions of them, but they're "un-heard" enough on a regular basis to warrant rarity value. All subjective though. |
| Penetration_Guru 28.08.2008 16:44 |
confirmedHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| Rick 28.08.2008 17:26 |
I second that. |
| regmarha 28.08.2008 18:00 |
Original songs: Mad The Swine See What a Fool I've Been I Go Crazy Soul Brother Human Body Thank God It's Christmas Rock In Rio Blues Chinese Torture Stealin' Hijack My Heart Lost Opportunity Queen Talks Plus the extended, instrumental and remix versions. What else? |
| Micrówave 28.08.2008 18:11 |
Cwazy little thing wrote: Am I, or anyone else in the UK/Rest of Europe/world, really expected to have paid for an import of an album I already have just for those tracks?Yes. I mean, I had to pay $20.99 plus tax for each CD back in 1988 and they didn't have any extra tracks! Plus, Brian needs your money. Besides, looks like I'll be paying upwards of $200 for a CD quality version of Human Body. They'd better not include Queen Talks. I've got a sampler already. |
| Winter Land Man 28.08.2008 18:43 |
I thought Hollywood Records didn't re-release all the albums with extra tracks until '91? They weren't signed to Hollywood until 1990. |
| Cwazy little thing 28.08.2008 19:32 |
regmarha wrote: Original songs: Mad The Swine See What a Fool I've Been I Go Crazy Soul Brother Human Body Thank God It's Christmas Rock In Rio Blues Chinese Torture Stealin' Hijack My Heart Lost Opportunity Queen Talks Plus the extended, instrumental and remix versions. What else?Was there not at least one live track from a 70's show included as a B-side at some point? I've got an awful memory for these sorts of things, but that rings a bell for some reason. Someone care to correct/clarify? |
| djcamper 28.08.2008 19:40 |
Melancholy blues from Houston 77 was on something. |
| AlexRocks 28.08.2008 20:04 |
"Queen Talks" is REALLY good but I'm sure it won't be included on this box set as it is an interview that lasts for half an hour or so. I got my copy I think in 1993 or so from "The Queen Collection" box set released in late 1992 on Hollywood Records here in the U.S. of A. |
| regmarha 28.08.2008 20:15 |
AlexRocks wrote: "Queen Talks" is REALLY good but I'm sure it won't be included on this box set as it is an interview that lasts for half an hour or so. I got my copy I think in 1993 or so from "The Queen Collection" box set released in late 1992 on Hollywood Records here in the U.S. of A.The Queen Talks version I have on The Show Must Go On single is like 3 minutes and pretty funny. |
| Winter Land Man 28.08.2008 22:59 |
regmarha wrote:That Queen Talks that you have is not one interview, it's like a few seconds from a ton of interviews.AlexRocks wrote: "Queen Talks" is REALLY good but I'm sure it won't be included on this box set as it is an interview that lasts for half an hour or so. I got my copy I think in 1993 or so from "The Queen Collection" box set released in late 1992 on Hollywood Records here in the U.S. of A.The Queen Talks version I have on The Show Must Go On single is like 3 minutes and pretty funny. The regular 'Queen Talks' was with Mike Reid in 1989, and Queen discussed The Miracle, their favorite songs and singers, and other stuff. Freddie said he'd like to do a duet with Aretha Franklin and said he could do it better than George Michael. |
| Benn 29.08.2008 05:34 |
DJ Camper, My Melancholy Blues was from Earls Court and on The Miracle 12" and 5" & 3" CD singles along with Stone Cold Crazy from The Rainbow '74 (which was also on the 7" and cassette). |
| Bad Seed 29.08.2008 06:04 |
MMB from Houston was on one of TSMGO single releases. Will have to rake it out. |
| Benn 29.08.2008 07:48 |
Bad Seed, .....good luck. Additional tracks on TSMGO releases were Keep Las Palabras De Amor / Keep Yourself Alive / Queen Talks (interview compilation)/Body Language Looking again, MMB WAS indeed from Houston 77. The release too audio from the Rare Live video release. |
| Cwazy little thing 29.08.2008 07:51 |
Yes - MMB was what I was thinking of. Thanks for filling in the gaps! |
| pittrek 29.08.2008 08:09 |
regmarha wrote: Original songs: Mad The Swine See What a Fool I've Been I Go Crazy Soul Brother Human Body Thank God It's Christmas Rock In Rio Blues Chinese Torture Stealin' Hijack My Heart Lost Opportunity Queen Talks Plus the extended, instrumental and remix versions. What else?Keep Yourself Alive ( 7" edit) Liar (7" edit) See What A Fool I've Been God Save The Queen (7" version) Tie Your Mother Down (7" edit) Tenement Funster (EP edit) White Queen (EP edit) Teo Torriate (7" edit) It's Late (7" edit) Fat Bottomed Girls (7" edit) A Human Body Flash Back Chat (7" remix) Back Chat (12" remix) Staying Power (12" remix) Soul Brother Radio Ga Ga (7" edit) Radio Ga Ga (instrumental version) Radio Ga Ga (extended version) I Want To Break Free (7" remix) I Want To Break Free (12" remix) A Hard Life (extended version) Keep Passing The Open Windows (12" version) Man On The Prowl (12" version) Machines (Back To Humans) (instrumental version) Thank God It's Christmas One Vision (7" version) One Vision (12" version) Blurred Vision A Kind Of Magic (extended version) A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling (7" version) A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling (12" version) Who Wants To Live Forever (7" version) I Want It All (7" version) My Melancholy Blues (Houston 77) Stone Cold Crazy (Rainbow 74) and many many many more |
| Voice of Reason 2018 29.08.2008 11:22 |
And the 16 different versions of You Don't Fool Me! |
| regmarha 29.08.2008 13:16 |
I've never been interested in edits, extended versions. Honestly I never met anyone who was, apart from serious collectors who never listened to them and bought the stuff only to have a complete collection. I only care for original songs and maybe some good remixes (could not name any that I listened to more than once from the FM box, any maybe 1-2 from the Hollyood albums, like the Long Lost Re-Take of Keep Yourself Alive). So I guess a Single Box Set is not for me, unless it features archive stuff, maybe demos or outtakes. It would be nice to know your reasons for being interested in it. |
| Negative Creep 29.08.2008 18:58 |
Hopefully the packaging will be a bit more realistic than the Freddie boxset was. The packaging for the Freddie boxset just puts you off bothering to listen to anything off it because it's so big. |
| AlexRocks 29.08.2008 21:33 |
I thought that that was one of the reasons why it was SO great and the best box sets of ALL time!!! I understand that it will be a little smaller than a vinyl l.p. in terms of hieght and lenght. I think it will be GREAT! |
| pittrek 30.08.2008 07:20 |
Come on, let's wait for the official tracklist |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 30.08.2008 08:42 |
This is HUGE news. Finally a new exciting release from Queen, the first since Milton Keynes. (It's already been 4 years I think...) But now, come on, some of you people are complaining and dissing this release even before knowing the tracklisting, packaging, etc. That's not understandable... This is very exciting and a huge opportunity for QProd to wash their hands and present a neat product. Let's all wait for the details and then you can complain whatever you want ;-) (Of course, I'm assuming that this IS going to happen this time) |
| brians wig 31.08.2008 19:32 |
They'll probably do something daft and annoying like release it in parts, rather than one full set. |
| Holly2003 01.09.2008 04:13 |
This is a pointless product that doesn't meet the needs of dedicated fans or casual fans. It's hard to understand the logic behind it. |
| brians wig 01.09.2008 04:44 |
It's not a "totally" pointless product as it means that out of the proposed 10 discs, we should at least get all the extended remixes & B sides (preferably remastered) in one package and on CD, rather than spread between Vinyl & CD. The other way of looking at this product is that Queen are obviously feeling happy enough to start releasing (nearly) comprehensive collections. We are one step closer to the Anthologies. |
| Holly2003 01.09.2008 05:08 |
brians wig wrote: It's not a "totally" pointless product as it means that out of the proposed 10 discs, we should at least get all the extended remixes & B sides (preferably remastered) in one package and on CD, rather than spread between Vinyl & CD. The other way of looking at this product is that Queen are obviously feeling happy enough to start releasing (nearly) comprehensive collections. We are one step closer to the Anthologies.Whatever floats your boat. It seems pointless to me. Hardly anyone will buy it as most fans already have all of this. And casual fans aren't interested in poorly done extended versions or instrumental versions of songs they already have. My guess is that it lessens the chances of archive material being released as its failure to sell will be used by QP as an excuse not to release any more "risky" product. |
| Tero 01.09.2008 10:05 |
Holly2003 wrote: My guess is that it lessens the chances of archive material being released as its failure to sell will be used by QP as an excuse not to release any more "risky" product.Whether you like it or not, there is at least some market for the singles box set, and they have a pretty good idea of its size after the FM box set... That's more than you can say about the upcoming QPR album, and what its impact on future QP releases will be if/when it bombs. |
| Holly2003 01.09.2008 10:38 |
"Whether you like it or not" ...What an odd thing to say. "there is at least some market for the singles box set, and they have a pretty good idea of its size after the FM box set" ...Assuming that everyone who bought a bunch of rare and unreleased recordings by Fred will be willing to buy non-rare, pre-released recordings -- a big assumption. But I can see your point. "That's more than you can say about the upcoming QPR album, and what its impact on future QP releases will be if/when it bombs" ...Yes, there's no way to tell yet how successful the new album will be, or how that will affect future releases of either QPR stuff or archive material. My 2 cents: no matter how good the new album is, I doubt it will sell well. But time will tell. |
| Tero 01.09.2008 11:02 |
You did make an substantial effort to convince the readers why the singles box set shouldn't be released, and made it quite clear you don't like it as a release, so it's not that odd to say "whether you like it or not". The fact remains that QP does have some figures to base their decisions on, and they wouldn't be releasing the set if it wasn't profitable enough. My gut feeling tells me that this is the only "bigger" release we will ever get from Queen. Not because it sells poorer than expected, but because they want to exploit other publicity to sell it. The first album by "Queen" after 15 years is a one-holiday-only free advertising campaign for any product, and that isn't going to be repeated if they ever decide to record another album. |
| Holly2003 01.09.2008 12:56 |
Tero wrote: You did make an substantial effort to convince the readers why the singles box set shouldn't be released, and made it quite clear you don't like it as a release, so it's not that odd to say "whether you like it or not".I must have missed my own leaflet campaign somehow. Tero wrote: The fact remains that QP does have some figures to base their decisions on, and they wouldn't be releasing the set if it wasn't profitable enough. .You could start an argument in an empty room. |
| regmarha 01.09.2008 14:15 |
I hope they make the real B sides available on a separate disc too. So the serious collectors can buy 10 CDs with the original singles and remixes and exotic 12" versions, and those who only go for the music can buy only one CD, with the really worthwile 10-12 songs on it. It would be nice own that and we would shut up until next Christmas, when the outtakes and demos are released. |
| Tero 01.09.2008 15:31 |
Holly2003 wrote:So you only came for the cheap shots at me as a person, and didn't have anything to say about why I think they are releasing the singes set this year, and why they wouldn't be releasing any further box sets? Like so many people have said, this is a glorified greatest hits release. The QPR tour is the biggest cross-marketing push they can achieve, and this is why they delayed the set from last year: To coincide with the tour and maximise sales. The same kind of an opportunity isn't going to present itself again. |
| Penetration_Guru 01.09.2008 15:36 |
regmarha wrote: I hope they make the real B sides available on a separate disc too. So the serious collectors can buy 10 CDs with the original singles and remixes and exotic 12" versions, and those who only go for the music can buy only one CD, with the really worthwile 10-12 songs on it. It would be nice own that and we would shut up until next Christmas, when the outtakes and demos are released.OK, who decides which 10-12 tracks are the "worthwhile" ones? I guarantee that my 12 will differ from yours... |
| Holly2003 01.09.2008 15:57 |
Tero wrote:If you take the time to read what I wrote, I said I could see your point of view.Holly2003 wrote:So you only came for the cheap shots at me as a person, and didn't have anything to say about why I think they are releasing the singes set this year, and why they wouldn't be releasing any further box sets? |
| regmarha 01.09.2008 16:05 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: OK, who decides which 10-12 tracks are the "worthwhile" ones? I guarantee that my 12 will differ from yours...Of course I'll decide it, who else? :) I'd love to hear your best 12. My ideal tracks afor this standalone album would be the original ones only (or mostly) released as B sides, like Hijack My Heart, I Go Crazy, Soul Brother etc. No remixes, no extended versions, just pure album leftover :) |