| JimTheJag 24.08.2008 19:29 |
Hi, GENUINE Un-numbered test pressing in Very Good condition, please e-mail me for photos at jamesgilchrist10@yahoo.com serious offers or trades welcome * transluscent blue * Glossy crest label, matt at centre * machine stamped EMI2375 (A-3 and B-1) * "Blair" etched on run-out groove * "Special Limited Edition" very rare opportunity, not many turn up. International offers and trades also welcome. Get movin'!!!! |
| Penetration_Guru 25.08.2008 13:55 |
Genuine test pressings don't have "limited edition" written on them |
| JimTheJag 25.08.2008 19:25 |
Penetration Guru, many websites say that there are many stories surrounding this, mostly because of poor recollections of the chain of events leading up to the production of this. Many refer to an article from "record collector" in 1998 which, if I can recall correctly, states that it is a test pressing, or it is a run-off copy which was meant to be destroyed at the plant. Regardless of what is the correct version of the story, the vinyl is 100% genuine. The bootlegs are no-where near the quality of this piece, believe! I bought one of the boots never thinking that this one would turn up. As it happens, after I bought this one, another showed up (this time, numbered and with sleeve) so this is why I offer the un-numbered one for sale/trade. The boots have the wrong label, are the wrong shade of blue, aren't transluscent and have a different (hand-written) matrix. As a matter of interest, if it were to be that the story claiming it is a test pressing is correct, why wouldn't it have "special limited edition"? It would be a test to see what the rest of the run would be like, wouldn't it? Anyway, photos are available to show it is the real thing - price offers or trade offers welcome! |
| onevsion 25.08.2008 20:33 |
Why would someone be interested in this blue vinyl single if there's a full set (invitation, glasses, scarf, numbered blue vinyl in picture sleeve) to look out for? I don't get it. It's like buying a fiat panda because you can't afford a ferrari but hey... the fiat is an italian car as well... |
| Penetration_Guru 26.08.2008 15:26 |
JimTheJag wrote: As a matter of interest, if it were to be that the story claiming it is a test pressing is correct, why wouldn't it have "special limited edition"? It would be a test to see what the rest of the run would be like, wouldn't it? Anyway, photos are available to show it is the real thing - price offers or trade offers welcome!Because test pressings either had blank labels or stock labels. I'll give you £10 for it. |
| Rick 26.08.2008 18:09 |
Yeah, my Hot Space testpressing must be genuine then! ;-) |
| JimTheJag 26.08.2008 18:27 |
Yeah, like the whole package comes up every day Ducksoup. And most fans can afford it as well, lol. Hey, this was a simple, genuine advert from a genuine fan and collector looking for a simple trade or sale from another decent fan - if you're not interested PG then that's fine, you just don't have to be so snide about it. |
| Micrówave 27.08.2008 11:00 |
Hey! What's going on? It appears the starter of this thread had their Username edited... because it's missing the final three letters: O F F |
| Penetration_Guru 27.08.2008 17:26 |
I'm sorry, aren't I allowed an opinion? If you think I was being snide, then you need to see some of my other posts. And the £10 was a genuine offer - that's what I think it's worth, having been collecting Queen records for almost exactly 20 years. Still, if I'm not "genuine" enough just because my opinion is that it's a pirate, then you can fuck off. |
| Penetration_Guru 27.08.2008 17:28 |
That said, I don't claim to be infallible, so if any of the other collectors on here have a view, I'm interested to see it. |
| JimTheJag 27.08.2008 21:45 |
PG, yes you are entitled to an opinion, I didn't say otherwise, did I? I also never posted the thread in order to partake in a verbal joust with yourself or any other member of the site for that matter. There was absolutely no need to be so rude about the original post, and to stoop to telling me to "F**k off" was a tad below the belt simply because I gave you a valid answer to your post. If you think it's a pirate, that's fine I don't really care about your opinion on this one, we've established that you're entitled to that. But I believe otherwise and am simply trying to make a trade. Speaking of trading, this is a trading post in a trading forum, so would it be possible to take your discussion, along with your opinions, and start a thread elsewhere instead of hi-jacking this one? - leave it to folk who may be interested, or just leave the thread to die. Either way, it's fine by me, but I'm not here to fight and argue with folk. Discussions are fine, bantering is good, but insults, jibes and arguing over what is essentially just a piece of plastic, however collectable (or not, depending on your opinion) is for morons with nothing better to do with their time. For the record, PG, I believe you are not one of those people (I'd hope not anyway) so let's agree to disagree on this one and try to get along, if you'll accept? I hope that you do. |
| Penetration_Guru 28.08.2008 16:43 |
JimTheJag wrote: you just don't have to be so snide about it.You made an accusation. Until this point I was perfectly civil. |
| JimTheJag 28.08.2008 19:32 |
Yes, civil up to the snide "I'll give you £10 for it". There was no need for that, you could just have answered the question and moved on. So, unfortunately I'm now of the opinion that you are a moron - so fuck off yourself you arrogant prick. |
| Penetration_Guru 30.08.2008 13:14 |
The £10 offer was genuine. If I think it's a pirate, why would I offer any more? |
| inu-liger 30.08.2008 14:17 |
I'll offer £15 :-) |
| onevsion 31.08.2008 08:01 |
JimTheJag wrote: Yeah, like the whole package comes up every day Ducksoup. And most fans can afford it as well, lol.patience is the keyword to collecting... |
| ferdy 03.09.2008 11:06 |
I own this record and it's very rare. Maybe there was some confusion in giving him the right name. Actually it's not a test pressing. The unnumbered copies never came with full set cause they were the copies in excess from the 200 hand numbered limited edition. Of course the vinyl is the same of the numbered version and reports on its label the words limited editions.. they just miss the number cause they were given inside EMI at that time (there's an article from a RC of about 10 years ago where a former EMI enployer told how he got its unnumbered copy. I have both numb and unnumb and they vinyl is the same. |
| JimTheJag 04.09.2008 14:37 |
ferdy wrote: I own this record and it's very rare. Maybe there was some confusion in giving him the right name. Actually it's not a test pressing. The unnumbered copies never came with full set cause they were the copies in excess from the 200 hand numbered limited edition. Of course the vinyl is the same of the numbered version and reports on its label the words limited editions.. they just miss the number cause they were given inside EMI at that time (there's an article from a RC of about 10 years ago where a former EMI enployer told how he got its unnumbered copy. I have both numb and unnumb and they vinyl is the same.So get it round you, those folk who were too ignorant to search the facts! |
| Penetration_Guru 04.09.2008 15:22 |
So they pressed two hundred, then changed the label for some more, even though they didn't need them? Does that sound like a likely way of proceeding? |
| ferdy 04.09.2008 17:46 |
no.. it's more likely that they pressed 250-300 blue records and only numbered 200 copies for the award occasion. There aren't different label or other. Same happened with the purple bohrap. If you look the unnumbered copies deeply they are identical to the numbered version. When I say they are the same I mean that I have compared colour, weight, sharpness of writings in the label, and above all the dna of a record: the matrix numbers in the run-off groove. |
| JimTheJag 05.09.2008 19:25 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: So they pressed two hundred, then changed the label for some more, even though they didn't need them? Does that sound like a likely way of proceeding?Ferdy, please ignore this ignoramous fuckwit. He thinks he's a smart arse - you know, the kind of person that can get up and talk for a full hour on any given subject, or 2 hours if he actually knew what the fuck he was talking about. He's just trying to be awkward and has been slating me ever since my original post just because he's unaware of the existence of one of the most important pieces of Queen collecting, despite having been a collector for almost 20 years. He knows NOTHING! |
| Penetration_Guru 06.09.2008 06:00 |
Sorry, are you saying I didn't know there was a blue vinyl edition of Bo Rhap or are you saying that the runoff copies made afterwards are the single most treasured Queen item it's possible to have? |
| JimTheJag 06.09.2008 19:39 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Sorry, are you saying I didn't know there was a blue vinyl edition of Bo Rhap or are you saying that the runoff copies made afterwards are the single most treasured Queen item it's possible to have?I don't think you can read too well. Either that or you're just being purposely thick. Or maybe you're just thick and can't read too well? Try getting someone to read my last post out to you, maybe they'll tell you that I said that it was one of the most important pieces of collecting (don't know how you could interpret that as "the single most trasured Queen item it's possible to have") and that you were ignorant to it's existence (not that you didn't know that there was a Blue Bo Rhap, I was merely saying that you presumed it would be fake because you didn't know there were further un-numbered copies). Duh! What kind of retard are you? Do me a favour and spontaneously combust, moron. |
| Penetration_Guru 07.09.2008 07:38 |
JimTheJag wrote: I said that it was one of the most important pieces of collecting /QUOTE] |
| JimTheJag 07.09.2008 16:28 |
PG, does your carer know you've been using the internet again? It's somebody else's turn now, the centre is closing soon..... |
| Penetration_Guru 07.09.2008 18:49 |
Ah, ignoring the question...nuff said. |
| JimTheJag 07.09.2008 19:21 |
Penetration_Guru wrote: Ah, ignoring the question...nuff said.Sorry, until they bring out a phrasebook for understanding the retard language you seem to be using, I can't converse with you. I asked the local retard to see if he could interpret in the meantime, but even he was too intelligent to digest what the fuck you are gibbering about. I'm sorry, I shouldn't speak to you like that, you're more to be pitied than laughed at. Now do one, asswipe. |
| inu-liger 08.09.2008 12:20 |
Troll alert :-) |
| tfkrl 10.09.2008 06:37 |
The unnumbered blue BoRhap is as Ferdy quoted an overstock-copy. Press-Factories always pressed more records than covers (for example to sort out mispressings). Nothing illegal with it. Collectable especially for those who don't have the money to buy a complete set or at least a set with cover (and outer sleeve) |
| onevsion 10.09.2008 18:06 |
tfkrl wrote: The unnumbered blue BoRhap is as Ferdy quoted an overstock-copy. Press-Factories always pressed more records than covers (for example to sort out mispressings). Nothing illegal with it. Collectable especially for those who don't have the money to buy a complete set or at least a set with cover (and outer sleeve)well said. Topic closed. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 16.09.2008 11:35 |
Anyway...How much do you want for it? |