regmarha 08.08.2008 20:28 |
Having just read through all recent topics and posts here by Greg Brooks, I think he appears to be the most uncool person in the Queen camp for decades. Paul Prenter surely was a big problem in his time, but that was very long ago. One thing I always liked about Queen members is their sense of humour, and their totally natural ability to play the character of a larger than life rock star. This attitude has continued in the communication of the loyal, caring and funny professionals around them, like Peter Hince, Chris Taylor, Peter Freestone to name but a few. They were 'the Royal Family', I think that's how Freddie referred to those working with them. Whenever they talked about the band in interviews, letters, it was always with respect, whenever they used the bosses names / stories in public it was always with delicate care. Never ever did they use their status to harm Queen's reputation as a group that cares about their fans. Do you remember Chris Taylor's stories at the fan club magazines? They were revealing, funny, and always very intelligent and brilliantly written. Brian's current tech guy, Pete Malandrone has contributed dozens of intelligent, extremely funny, cool, modern comments on all types of topics at brianmay.com. Whatever Pete's professional skills or persona might be in real life, over the net, in written words, he comes across as a 'real member of the Royal Family', the kind of employee you easily associate with such 'high guality' persons as Brian, Roger, John and Freddie Mercury. I think Greg's book about Queen live shows is a great piece, while the Mercury Box is an amazing achievment. I never been to a Queen Convention, still I can appreciate the fact that he takes some rarities out of the vaults and playes them to the people from time to time (some of whom records and uploads the bits so that guys like myself can hear them). This is to say that I certainly value all his professional work as much as I can. The same way I value the work of Queen's set designers, security guys, bus drivers, accountants, riggers, Pro Tool engineers and all the others who help them create what I enjoy so much. And while I have high appreciations of long due Queen rarity releases, box sets etc, I think Greg Brooks's a 'hired gun' (and a very good at that), while the actual release decisions are made by someone else at Q Prod or EMI. So there's no more use in asking him to release anything, than emailing Pete Malandrone with requests regarding the set lists and backline equipment of the next Q+PR tour. Strange to see a member of the Royal Family not only browsing an unofficial fan forum, but also posting there. Surely he has all the right to do so. Still it's strange, because all the other guys at Q Prod know better than posting here even if they can hardly resist the urge to set some things straight. I could not say where the offensive posts started, but I think Greg's current post are not about his job, giving or gathering information (see Admin at Queenonline as a good example) but lecturing, offending, teasing users of the forum on a very private and personal level. He could personally even be right about some or most of the offences, innuendoes, bad language, ignorance etc. But the fact and the way he reacts, or most recently, provokes with his comments here, he sadly seems to lack the 'Royal' dignity and humour I very much like about most things Queen. Having Greg here saying what he's been saying, fighting helplessly for himself, seemingly alone against mostly everybody just makes the vibe here worse than it is without the Box Set. Nelson Mandela said, an eye for an eye will make us all blind, and he refused to fight with the very people who put him in jail for life. Couldn't this be a great example here for Greg, to just let all shit go and look at the brighter side of things? I'd feel better as a fan if Greg Brooks, the man returned to the 'official position' of the Queen Archivist, member of the Royal Family, taking delicate care everytime he posts about anything anywhere. I would like to get my intact 'Queen image' back: I wish to read insightful, intellectual, professional stuff from Queen crew members and have the problems of society dealt with by the band. Please. |
mhoman00 08.08.2008 21:05 |
I agree with you whole-heartedly. Greg Brooks is our only link to the inside world of the goings on with Queen...and it is almost as if he mocks us with sheer rubbish. Very unprofessional. However, I disagree with you that my mental image of Queen will be tarnished by one lone being. Greg Brooks is one man. His attitude is poor, and in my opinion his holier-than-though approach to 'gracing' us with rarities from above isn't worth it. I'd honestly prefer not hearing his name again than see his spam posts which are becoming more and more frequent. What is the last worthwhile item he has provided? Can anyone answer that? I feel that if we just ignore him, maybe the problem will go away. Greg Brooks thinks he is above all of the Queenzoners. He isn't. |
Winter Land Man 08.08.2008 21:31 |
AGREE! |
Dan C. 08.08.2008 21:43 |
I'm not bothered by his posts. That said, I hardly read them. Noting against him really, I just know that all of his topics and all topics pertaining to him turn into arguments. It's a drag, but that's QueenZone for you! |
Major Tom 08.08.2008 21:47 |
Amen. |
onevsion 09.08.2008 06:27 |
Agree. |
gooddrills 09.08.2008 07:23 |
Everyone needs to calm down a little. I actually quite like his posts, and considering the unecessary and rather small minded abuse he seems to attract I think he retains a pretty good sense of humour. And please remember, he started getting a lot of abuse because "he wont release stuff!!!" a long time before he started having a bit of fun with his posts.Lets not loose the ability to have a good old fashioned laugh, even if it is sometimes at ourselves. If Greg isn't like other people from the Queen camp so what, anything wrong with being an individual? I'm just as excited and frustrated about the archive releases as anybody else in this forum, but they come out when they come out and we all just have to be patient. I'm sure it will be well worth it. On a personal note to Greg, I'm sooooooooo f##king jealous of your job you jammy bastard. I would like to offer you 2 of the finest women from my humble village in exchange for a job swap? And my prized cow! Have a good weekend people, be happy |
john bodega 09.08.2008 07:41 |
He's a dick; big deal. I personally applaud him for being such a shameless attention seeker, it's entertaining. |
Queen Archivist 09.08.2008 08:15 |
gooddrills wrote: Everyone needs to calm down a little. I actually quite like his posts, and considering the unecessary and rather small minded abuse he seems to attract I think he retains a pretty good sense of humour. GB: YES, EXACTLY RIGHT, GOODDRILLS. IT IS ALL ABOUT SENSE OF HUMOUR WHEN YOU BOIL IT ALL DOWN. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. PRECISELY. YOU EITHER HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR, AND SEE THRU WIND-UP MERCHANTS, LIKE ME (WHO ONLY GIVE BACK AS GOOD AS THEY GET), OR YOU DON'T. I REALLY PITY THOSE WHO DON'T. HOW SAD, NOT TO SEE WHAT MOST OTHER PEOPLE CAN EASILY SEE. I OFTEN HAVE A PROVOCATIVE WIND-UP DIG AT ZEBONKA, BUT MOST OF THE TIME HE SEES THRU IT, KNOWS IT'S A JOKE. GOOD FOR HIM. I SEE HE HAS RESPONDED HERE... I'LL GET TO IT. GOOD GOD... IF MY RANTS AND SILLINESS ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY AND BLATANTLY RECOGNISABLE AS FUN, ALBEIT IT WARPED FUN, TO SO MANY PEOPLE... THEN HOW SAD ARE THEY????? PEOPLE HAVE NASTY SPITEFUL POPS AT ME, AND I GIVE IT BACK. NO MORE OR LESS. IT'S WATER OFF A DUCKS BACK TO ME.... BUT EVIDENTLY SO VERY VERY PERSONAL TO THEM. THEY SHOULD NOT DISH IT OUT IF THEY CANNOT TAKE IT BACK. FAIR ENOUGH, AYE. And please remember, he started getting a lot of abuse because "he wont release stuff!!!" a long time before he started having a bit of fun with his posts. YES. WELL SAID. IT WAS THE QZ-ERS THAT FIRST STARTED ATTACKING ME AND BEING NASTY, VINDICTIVE, PERSONAL, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I STARTED OUT TELLING YOU GUYS ALL KINDS OF INTERESTING DETAILS AT THE BEGINNING... WHICH MANY OF YOU WERE VERY THANKFUL FOR AND PLEASED WITH. IT WAS ONLY WHEN CERTAIN ARSEHOLES STARTED THREATENING NASTY THINGS TO ME AND MY NON-EXISTENT WIFE, THAT I STARTED GIVING SOME OF IT BACK.... AND LOW AND BEHOLD, THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT, COULD NOT TAKE IT, HAD A BIG SENSE OF HUMOUR FAILURE - WHILE I RETAIN MINE TO THIS DAY. Lets not lose the ability to have a good old fashioned laugh, even if it is sometimes at ourselves. WELL SAID CHUM. YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD AGAIN. TELL THE OTHERS WHO HAVE REPLIED HERE, WILL YOU. THEY HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOUR AT ALL. LOOK AT THEIR COMMENTS. TALK ABOUT PATRONISING AND ANAL!!!!!!! If Greg isn't like other people from the Queen camp so what, anything wrong with being an individual? YES INDEED. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? I'm just as excited and frustrated about the archive releases as anybody else in this forum, but they come out when they come out and we all just have to be patient. I'm sure it will be well worth it. YES IT WILL. JUST DON'T KEEP SHOOTING THE MESSENGER. IT'S NOT MY DECISION WHAT QUEEN RELEASE, OR NOT. I'M JUST THE ARCHIVIST, AS I HAVE SAID A LOT OF TIMES. On a personal note to Greg, I'm sooooooooo f##king jealous of your job you jammy bastard. I would like to offer you 2 of the finest women from my humble village in exchange for a job swap? And my prized cow! MMMMMMMM! TEMPTING. LET'S MEET UP. DO YOU HAVE ANY GOATS? Have a good weekend people, be happy I SECOND THAT. A GOOD POSTING. THANKS. |
Queen Archivist 09.08.2008 08:28 |
Zebonka12 wrote: He's a dick; big deal. I personally applaud him for being such a shameless attention seeker, it's entertaining.THANKS FOR THAT Z12. BY THE WAY... THE ONLY 'ATTENTION' I SEEK, TO BE HONEST HERE, IS TO PISS THOSE PEOPLE OFF, WHO TRY SO HARD, SO OFTEN, SO TRANSPARENTLY, TO DO THE SAME TO ME. SOMETIMES I AM JUST UNABLE TO SLEEP, OR AM BORED, SO I COME HERE AND GET 'STUFF' OUT OF MY SYSTEM. IT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS THAT. NOT SERIOUS. BUT DESPITE CERTAIN PEOPLE DISHING OUT ALL THE PERSONAL INSULTS MY WAY, THEY GET REALLY OFFENDED IF I DO LIKEWISE. GO FIGURE THAT!!!! IT'S LIKE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK MY MIND, IN CASE I OFFEND THEM, OR BECAUSE IN THEIR CRAZY MIND I REPRESENT THE BAND... WHICH IS MORE ABSURD THAN MUCH OF THE STUFF ON THIS SITE - WHICH PEOPLE ALSO THINK IS SERIOUS! TO ME, THIS IS JUST 'SOMETHING TO DO' WHEN I'M HAVING A BREAK FROM LOGGING VIDEOS, OR WRITING TEXT, OR COMPILING FOOTAGE FOR TV USE, OR SOMETHING. IF PEOPLE TAKE WHAT I SAY SO SERIOUSLY - FAILING TO SEE THE BLATANT HUMOUR THEREIN - IT'S THEIR FAILING, NOT MINE. IT HAS TO BE A 50/50 TWO-WAY THING. BALANCE. I OFTEN HAVE A DIG AT YOU, Z12, WHEN YOU ARE PERSONAL ABOUT ME. I SAY BAD THINGS TO YOU, YOU DO TO ME.... DO I CARE????? NOT A JOT. DO YOU??????? I DOUBT IT. I HOPE NOT. IF I SAW YOU AT A CONVENTION I WOULD TALK WITH YOU AND DRINK BEER WITH YOU. IF YOU COULD NOT DO THE SAME, WITH A SIMILAR ATTITUDE, IT WOULD SAY ABOUT YOU THAN ME. I REALLY DON'T TAKE THIS SITE AND ITS CONTENT AS A BIG DEAL. SO GOD KNOWS WHY SO MANY OTHERS DO. JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN THIS THREAD!!! LIGHTEN UP, PEOPLE. STOP BEING PERSONAL. RELAX A BIT. BE LOVELY KIND CONSIDERATE PEOPLE. NOT NASTY ARSEHOLE PEOPLE WITHOUT A GOOD WORD FOR ANYONE. ZEB12... IF ALL ELSE FAILS, YES, YOU AND ARE AT LEAST "ENTERTAINING". THANKS FOR SAYING THAT. IT'S FAR BETTER THAN BEING AN UPTIGHT STIFF ANAL BORING PERSON, ISN'T IT!!! ENJOY THE SABBATH. |
Queen Archivist 09.08.2008 09:00 |
regmarha wrote: Having just read through all recent topics and posts here by Greg Brooks, I think he appears to be the most uncool person in the Queen camp for decades. Paul Prenter surely was a big problem in his time, but that was very long ago. |
Queen Archivist 09.08.2008 09:01 |
CONTINUED... Strange to see a member of the Royal Family not only browsing an unofficial fan forum, but also posting there. Surely he has all the right to do so. Still it's strange, because all the other guys at Q Prod know better than posting here even if they can hardly resist the urge to set some things straight. I could not say where the offensive posts started, but I think Greg's current post are not about his job, giving or gathering information (see Admin at Queenonline as a good example) but lecturing, offending, teasing users of the forum on a very private and personal level. He could personally even be right about some or most of the offences, innuendoes, bad language, ignorance etc. But the fact and the way he reacts, or most recently, provokes with his comments here, he sadly seems to lack the 'Royal' dignity and humour I very much like about most things Queen. Having Greg here saying what he's been saying, fighting helplessly for himself, seemingly alone against mostly everybody just makes the vibe here worse than it is without the Box Set. Nelson Mandela said, an eye for an eye will make us all blind, and he refused to fight with the very people who put him in jail for life. Couldn't this be a great example here for Greg, to just let all shit go and look at the brighter side of things? I HEAR YOUR POINT. BUT PLEASE READ MY OTHER REPLIES TOO ON THIS THREAD. IT'S NOT SERIOUS, REGMARHA. IT'S JUST FUN. IT'S ONLY A WEB SITE. THESE ARE ONLY WORDS. I LIKE PEOPLE. I LOVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY. I KNOW SOME FABULOUS HUNGARIAN PEOPLE THAT I MET IN MONTREUX LAST SEPT... THE ACOUSTIC BAND. WE TALKED AND HAD A LAUGH. I KNOW MIKLOS, HE'S A GREAT GUY... ONE OF THESE PEOPLE MIGHT BE YOU FOR ALL I KNOW???? HANG ON... I THINK YOU AND I HAVE NEVER MET, BY THE SOUND OF IT. BUT YOU GET MY POINT. AND THEN WHEN I SAW ENDRE (HUNG FAN CLUB) HE GAVE ME A BOTTLE OF WINE FROM HIS BELOVED COUNTRY, WHICH WAS FABULOUS... A LOVELY GESTURE WHICH I VALUE GREATLY... AND I STILL HAVE IT. REGMARHA... THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MATTER TO ME. PEOPLE, GREAT FRIENDSHIPS. NOT WHAT GETS WRITTEN ON THIS SITE... PERSONAL, INSULTING, NASTY, THREATENING THINGS. YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND OTHERS TOO MAYBE.. BECAUSE THIS SITE IS REALLY NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE QUEEN CIRCLES OUT THERE... AND HOW I AM PERCEIVED AWAY FROM HERE BY A LOT OF PEOPLE. COME TO MONTREUX NEXT MONTH. EXPERIENCE GREAT GREAT FRIENDS ALL HAVING A FAB TIME, LOTS OF LAUGHS TOGETHER. A WONDERFUL FEELING OF COMARADEREE (WHICH I CAN'T SPELL). YOU WILL HEAR NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, MINDLESS BANTER, TRIVIAL POINT-SCORING, NO INSULTS, NO BAD FEELING. JUST A BRILLIANT TIME. YOU MIGHT THINK MY PERSONA ON QZ, AND HOW I'M PEREIVED HERE, IS 'THE NORMAL'. IT IS NOT. THIS IS ONLY 1% OF MY QUEEN FAN EXPERIENCE. COME THE UK CONVENTION NEXT YEAR, AND HOLLAND TOO. WE HAVE A HUGE JAPANESE MEAL TOGETHER IN ROTTERDAM... SOMETIMES 30 OF US, ALL QUUEN FANS/FRIENDS. IT IS A MASSIVE LAUGH FROM START TO FINISH. I CANNOT RELAY TO YOU HOW GOOD IT IS WHEN GENUINE FRIENDS GET TOGETHER IN THAT SITUATION... BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE VIBE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON QZ. YOU SEE? CAN YOU BEGIN TO SEE SOMETHING OF 'THE OTHER SIDE' OF THIS? I HOPE SO. I'd feel better as a fan if Greg Brooks, the man returned to the 'official position' of the Queen Archivist, member of the Royal Family, taking delicate care everytime he posts about anything anywhere. I would like to get my intact 'Queen image' back: I wish to read insightful, intellectual, professional stuff from Queen crew members and have the problems of society dealt with by the band. Please. A GOOD POSTING, REGMARHA. YOU MADE YOUR POINT WELL. I HOPE MINE WERE HALF AS GOOD. BEST WISHES TO YOU AND ALL QUEEN FANS IN HUNGARY GB |
john bodega 09.08.2008 09:10 |
If I'm to take you seriously when you say your insults are not serious; why not carry that assumption about other posts on the forum? Why take anything seriously! Ha! I know I sure as hell don't. :/ |
regmarha 09.08.2008 09:26 |
Have you heard Queen?s sound engineer ever calling people morons after gigs, when fans made remarks of bad sound quality? No. Have you seen the designer of the Cosmos Rocks imagery using the F word against those fans calling his work ?childish? and ?horrible??? No. And that?s not so because these guys were never hurt by fans. Generally, the only guys in music business entitled to have an opinion and react to audience responses are the artists themselves. And even they keep that to a clever mininum. When legions of fans criticised Hot Space, Fred told them ?it?s only a bloody record?. It took now Roger more than three years to speak his heart about fans attacking them for having Paul on board and using the name Queen. He had only one sentences to say and that was it. See, band members are the individuals in this scene, not their people. Everyone else working with any band are silent professionals, however frustrating that might be for them. Greg, I understand it was the crazy folks here who started all the nasty personal insults, calling you names, boring you with the same old questions over and over etc. Still it does not explain why you became the first in Queen?s 35 year history of criticised and slammed staff members, to return insults with no end. You?ve not been hurt more than others. You just could not take a deep breath when hurt, bored, criticised or poked fun of. When Jacky Gunn joined the party and asked Freddie for instructions regarding her work at Queen Productions, he simply told her: ?Whatever you do, do it with style?. Seems like a very universal advice. Greg, please think about it. |
regmarha 09.08.2008 09:44 |
Greg, thank you for your compliments on my country and my friends. I sure do hope to meet you in person one day - but for now, please just rise above the level of all this current, unworthy stuff... sound sick to give advice to a man, so I'm only asking this to make my QueenZone reader and Queen fan experience better :) Well I think the Queen Archivist is a 'tape guy' only as much as Jim Beach is the 'administration guy' :) From the fan point of you are QPL. |
brENsKi 09.08.2008 12:31 |
Queen Archivist wrote: YES IT WILL. JUST DON'T KEEP SHOOTING THE MESSENGER. IT'S NOT MY DECISION WHAT QUEEN RELEASE, OR NOT. I'M JUST THE ARCHIVIST, AS I HAVE SAID A LOT OF TIMES.to (mis)quote "the life of brian" "he's not the archivist....he's a very naughty boy" "no, i'm the archvist, and my wife is" |
Serry... 09.08.2008 12:56 |
He showed that 'I-can't-sleep-there's-someone-in-the-Internet-who's-wrong' attitude of some people very well, thanks to him for that at least. |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 09.08.2008 14:24 |
wow, so there you go, 4 posts of bloated ego, nice |
Josh Henson 09.08.2008 19:23 |
I think GB is funny. It's amazing how he winds up some of the people up here. I see nothing wrong in what he does. Look at some of the nasty posts that people have posted about him. You'll see why he is the way he is. |
Winter Land Man 09.08.2008 20:30 |
Greg thinks he'll be so famous, that if he posts a sex vid of himself and his cheeseburger on the net, he'll be a celebrity just like Paris Hilton. Possible? |
AmeriQueen 04.09.2008 21:47 |
I still remember making a joke about it better hurry up or it won't make the millenium. That sad reality thought as unrealistic is almost a decade past it's sad point. Wasn't gasoline 99 cents a gallon when it first was announced? I know the Houston '77 show was played at the convention I went to and I was complaining about the wait then, that being before the internet went bittorrent happy, before Paul Rodgers was anything we dared hope for. If they need someone to go through everything, I'd pledge to work 60 - 80 hours per week, listen to every recording thoroughly 5 or more times and I don't even care if it includes 48 takes of Fun It without a change in the attempt of what they want played and created. I'd work extremely cheap and I'd be willing to work for the cheapest amount legally offerable. No job could be greater than to catalogue for the public a studio collection of the mysterious events that turned out albums of pure art never to be equaled. |