QueenZone discussion #1117667

FriedChicken wrote: Welcome to America. Here in The Netherlands we have nudity on public networks. It doesn't raise any eyebrows

FriedChicken wrote: Welcome to America. Here in The Netherlands we have nudity on public networks. It doesn't raise any eyebrows

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: I'm glad they threw the fine out. Stupidest thing on the planet to have ever assigned it. Not only has it made EVERY half time show since that one completely stink (hard to get excited and interested in a half time performance when the performers themselves look as though they are about ready to be sick out of fear that something will go wrong and the FCC will get them in trouble), but it was an accident. Guess what? Shit happens. You deal with it and move on. I am an American (and I say that only to clarify this next statement as I am NOT defined by my nationality in any way) and I honestly cannot understand the American obsession with nudity. I mean, really? It's a pair of boobs, yippie. I understand guys like that stuff, but as pointed out earlier the level of obsession found in Americans is ridiculous. Several of my international friends who have visited the US can't understand it either. Maybe it is all tied into the puritan founding morals of "sex is BAD and sinful! Nakedness makes you think of sin!" (anyone ever seen that Black Adder episode from season 3 where his puritan relatives come to visit and see EVERYTHING as sinful? That's a bit like what the first settlers of this country were like).

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: It's a pair of boobs, yippie.

Micrówave wrote:

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: It's a pair of boobs, yippie.

I couldn't have said it better. But not only did this affect TV, but communication in general. Radio stations changed their programming, internet radio got a huge jump in ratings, Howard Stern even got some outrageous contract. Now the supreme court has come back and said "Never mind, you didn't need to do all that." It'd be nice to see what the pricetag for all this crap ended up being.

MasterHistoryGirl wrote:

Micrówave wrote:

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: It's a pair of boobs, yippie.

I couldn't have said it better. But not only did this affect TV, but communication in general. Radio stations changed their programming, internet radio got a huge jump in ratings, Howard Stern even got some outrageous contract. Now the supreme court has come back and said "Never mind, you didn't need to do all that." It'd be nice to see what the pricetag for all this crap ended up being.

Oh just wait; the next president is going to be saddled with the BIGGEST budget deficit EVER in US history. I'm sure that one of the candidates will not have a problem telling us exactly how much money that wasted...

Smitty wrote: Which ones? The bankers or the lizard men?

Treasure Moment wrote:

Smitty wrote: Which ones? The bankers or the lizard men?

the bankers of course, go back to being naive and sleep now

Smitty wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Smitty wrote: Which ones? The bankers or the lizard men?

the bankers of course, go back to being naive and sleep now

What about the Wheat industry? Those sons of bitches can pull some major strings. Let's not stop there, I can name some major corporations that have major sway in the world. Darden Restaurants Inc. Mattel Inc. Joseph Enterprises, Inc. Religious Technology Center (the for-profit, non-profit organization) Waffle House Inc. Nintendo Company Ltd. The list goes on and on.

Treasure Moment wrote: private banks own and print the money therfor

Treasure Moment wrote:

Smitty wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Smitty wrote: Which ones? The bankers or the lizard men?

the bankers of course, go back to being naive and sleep now

What about the Wheat industry? Those sons of bitches can pull some major strings. Let's not stop there, I can name some major corporations that have major sway in the world. Darden Restaurants Inc. Mattel Inc. Joseph Enterprises, Inc. Religious Technology Center (the for-profit, non-profit organization) Waffle House Inc. Nintendo Company Ltd. The list goes on and on.

Dont try to be a smartass becuase you are just DUMB! the private banks own and print the money therfor OWN everything and everyone, now go back to sleep again.

Micrówave wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: private banks own and print the money therfor

Then why do they contract out the job of re-printing new checks and consumer's bank statements?

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Why doesn't it surprise me that TM had to show up here?

Treasure Moment wrote:

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Why doesn't it surprise me that TM had to show up here?

you need to forget everything they programmed into your head in university as its all bullshit.

Smitty wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Why doesn't it surprise me that TM had to show up here?

you need to forget everything they programmed into your head in university as its all bullshit.

Especially all of the math and science and stuff, fuck it.

Treasure Moment wrote:

Smitty wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Why doesn't it surprise me that TM had to show up here?

you need to forget everything they programmed into your head in university as its all bullshit.

Especially all of the math and science and stuff, fuck it.

Im just saying that people who go to university think they are smart BUT they arent AT ALL. Its all programming, like transfering a file from a cd to the harddrive, they themselves havent done shit! its all being downloaded like a file so a person with high education still can be totally dumb.

MasterHistoryGirl wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Smitty wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Why doesn't it surprise me that TM had to show up here?

you need to forget everything they programmed into your head in university as its all bullshit.

Especially all of the math and science and stuff, fuck it.

Im just saying that people who go to university think they are smart BUT they arent AT ALL. Its all programming, like transfering a file from a cd to the harddrive, they themselves havent done shit! its all being downloaded like a file so a person with high education still can be totally dumb.

Nice analogy for learning. But, if you'll pardon my asking, how exactly is that any different from the stuff you "know" that you learned from YouTube? *ZING*

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Indeed TM, and the reverse is also true if you will grant that. I have known some "uneducated" people who were brilliant. But assuming things about people's education or intelligence based on little or no information is dangerous I trust you will grant. And that's all you've done with everyone on this site, myself included. So how are you any better than you accuse any of us of being?

Holly2003 wrote: Not a big fan of Alan Bloom but this thread reminds me of one of his quotes, "Only Socrates knew, after a lifetime of unceasing labor, that he was ignorant. Now every high-school student knows that. How did it become so easy?" The idea that students learn nothing at university is an opinion that only someone who has never been to university could come up with. Well-run university courses teach students to question everything, and they give them the skills to do so. It's true many students do not take advantage of their education, instead looking at it as a shortcut to a "good job" but that's hardly the fault of the educators.

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Not a big fan of Alan Bloom but this thread reminds me of one of his quotes, "Only Socrates knew, after a lifetime of unceasing labor, that he was ignorant. Now every high-school student knows that. How did it become so easy?" The idea that students learn nothing at university is an opinion that only someone who has never been to university could come up with. Well-run university courses teach students to question everything, and they give them the skills to do so. It's true many students do not take advantage of their education, instead looking at it as a shortcut to a "good job" but that's hardly the fault of the educators.

what are you talking about? i study molecular biology at university! they dont tell you how to think but WHAT to think, you are a sheep! thats all it is, programming, file transfer, most of the people at university are EXTREMELY dumb.

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Not a big fan of Alan Bloom but this thread reminds me of one of his quotes, "Only Socrates knew, after a lifetime of unceasing labor, that he was ignorant. Now every high-school student knows that. How did it become so easy?" The idea that students learn nothing at university is an opinion that only someone who has never been to university could come up with. Well-run university courses teach students to question everything, and they give them the skills to do so. It's true many students do not take advantage of their education, instead looking at it as a shortcut to a "good job" but that's hardly the fault of the educators.

what are you talking about? i study molecular biology at university! they dont tell you how to think but WHAT to think, you are a sheep! thats all it is, programming, file transfer, most of the people at university are EXTREMELY dumb.

perhaps you are not at a "well run university course" then. Did you miss that bit? If you did it looks to me lke you are one of those "extremely dumb" students you apparently hate. Maybe it's peer pressure.

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Not a big fan of Alan Bloom but this thread reminds me of one of his quotes, "Only Socrates knew, after a lifetime of unceasing labor, that he was ignorant. Now every high-school student knows that. How did it become so easy?" The idea that students learn nothing at university is an opinion that only someone who has never been to university could come up with. Well-run university courses teach students to question everything, and they give them the skills to do so. It's true many students do not take advantage of their education, instead looking at it as a shortcut to a "good job" but that's hardly the fault of the educators.

what are you talking about? i study molecular biology at university! they dont tell you how to think but WHAT to think, you are a sheep! thats all it is, programming, file transfer, most of the people at university are EXTREMELY dumb.

perhaps you are not at a "well run university course" then. Did you miss that bit? If you did it looks to me lke you are one of those "extremely dumb" students you apparently hate. Maybe it's peer pressure.

Look, all university is is PROGRAMMING, they give you books, you read the shit, memorize it and then throw it up on the exam paper and thats it! you get your degree and you are now "smart" you havent done shit yourself, they give you what to read, the formulas, what to remember and how to calculate things and you just memorize it. There are people who do psychadelic drugs that are 1000 times more smarter than a university professor and actually know things that really matter, about why the fuck we are here and what is our purpose.

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Not a big fan of Alan Bloom but this thread reminds me of one of his quotes, "Only Socrates knew, after a lifetime of unceasing labor, that he was ignorant. Now every high-school student knows that. How did it become so easy?" The idea that students learn nothing at university is an opinion that only someone who has never been to university could come up with. Well-run university courses teach students to question everything, and they give them the skills to do so. It's true many students do not take advantage of their education, instead looking at it as a shortcut to a "good job" but that's hardly the fault of the educators.

what are you talking about? i study molecular biology at university! they dont tell you how to think but WHAT to think, you are a sheep! thats all it is, programming, file transfer, most of the people at university are EXTREMELY dumb.

perhaps you are not at a "well run university course" then. Did you miss that bit? If you did it looks to me lke you are one of those "extremely dumb" students you apparently hate. Maybe it's peer pressure.

Look, all university is is PROGRAMMING, they give you books, you read the shit, memorize it and then throw it up on the exam paper and thats it! you get your degree and you are now "smart" you havent done shit yourself, they give you what to read, the formulas, what to remember and how to calculate things and you just memorize it. There are people who do psychadelic drugs that are 1000 times more smarter than a university professor and actually know things that really matter, about why the fuck we are here and what is our purpose.

That is not my experience of university. I've been to four, in three different countries, and none of them do the type of rote-learning that you describe. Either your university course is functioning incorrectly, or, more likely, you are a Walter Mitty type who doesn't know his arse from his elbow. Nothing you have said on QZ would lead me to believe that you have any type of education worth speaking of. It appears to me you wouldn't recognise a book if one dropped on your head, and that you base your knowledge of life on what some idiots have put on YouTube - the mecca for gullible idiots and scam artists. Yeah yeah, I'm a sheep, blah fucking blah, but if I am I'm a well educated and well paid sheep and I wouldn't trade places with a village idiot like you for all the wool in Sweden.

Zebonka12 wrote: Treasure Moment is a mindless, programmed robot who believes anything he sees on Youtube. But by God does he write great music.

Treasure Moment wrote: Zebonka and his buddies here are mindless robots who believe the education system and mainstream media.

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: @ Holly He clearly has never been to university. I've tried to explain to him several times that what he "thinks" university is and my experience with it over 7 years is completely opposite. Like you, I've never been "assigned stuff" and "never examined issues"; hell, that's all you do in history. You chose the issue, you do the research on your own, examining it from all angles (and TM, there are more than 2 sides to a story. My research has always contained at least 3 and the only reason I had that few is because of time constraints) and you determine what you think about it. Your profs don't have to agree with you, in fact most of the time they won't. But that's the beauty of it. If he'd truly been to university, he'd know that. He clearly has merely completed high school and assumes that university is simply a replication of that. (Apparently he also didn't go to a high school worth it's weight in anything if that's the kind of education he got) Though I will admit it's fun to get him wound up and watch him go off and spew insults at others; provides a good laugh.

Treasure Moment wrote: No you idiot! i study at university! they give us books, you read it, you memorize it, you throw it up on the exam paper and thats that. you do the same! nothing comes from YOU, its all from them.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: No you idiot! i study at university! they give us books, you read it, you memorize it, you throw it up on the exam paper and thats that. you do the same! nothing comes from YOU, its all from them.

Bullshit. I can't think of many courses in any institution I've been to where you simply spit out what you've been fed by the textbooks or by your lecturer. I dunno what university you're going to, but I bet the ceiling leaks and the principal carries a broom.

Holly2003 wrote: Why do you go to university then? Doesn't that make you a sell out sheep clone idiot like the rest of us?

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Why do you go to university then? Doesn't that make you a sell out sheep clone idiot like the rest of us?

I do it with the understanding that you arent smart if you have a university education. Of course its good to have an education, all im saying is that its just programming and just because you have a high education doesnt mean you are smart.

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Why do you go to university then? Doesn't that make you a sell out sheep clone idiot like the rest of us?

I do it with the understanding that you arent smart if you have a university education. Of course its good to have an education, all im saying is that its just programming and just because you have a high education doesnt mean you are smart.

"of course it's good to have an education"? You total clown. You can't even maintain the internal logic of your argument from one moment to the next.

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Why do you go to university then? Doesn't that make you a sell out sheep clone idiot like the rest of us?

I do it with the understanding that you arent smart if you have a university education. Of course its good to have an education, all im saying is that its just programming and just because you have a high education doesnt mean you are smart.

"of course it's good to have an education"? You total clown. You can't even maintain the internal logic of your argument from one moment to the next.

MasterHistoryGirl wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: Why do you go to university then? Doesn't that make you a sell out sheep clone idiot like the rest of us?

I do it with the understanding that you arent smart if you have a university education. Of course its good to have an education, all im saying is that its just programming and just because you have a high education doesnt mean you are smart.

"of course it's good to have an education"? You total clown. You can't even maintain the internal logic of your argument from one moment to the next.

Thank you Holly!! I've been trying to tell him that as long as he's been here. I even took the time to post him common logical fallacies, which he clearly hasn't remembered. So you, TM, think that you are so much better than us because you don't just swallow what you are given at university? Right. As Zebonka pointed out, your university must be downright shite if that's what you are getting out of it. Must be awful nice to be so self-centered that you think you are smarter and better than anyone else walking the planet today. We all bow down to your intelligence, oh great deliverer. Please, save us all from sheepdom.

Treasure Moment wrote: The point was that it doesnt make you SMARTER! get it?

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: Only because I'm bored enough that I feel like humoring you.... I will focus on one example only. My 2nd Masters Thesis. 1. I got to pick the topic I wanted to study (in this case, theoretical developments of logic vs. spirituality in Medieval and Early Modern Europe and their impacts on the development of Politics in the Valois Dynasty in France). Topic of my own chosing. I wanted to know how and why a country as devoutly Catholic as France had been is today one of the only countries on the planet with the statement that they are a SECULAR nation written into their constitution. 2. Next, I picked the professor I wanted to work with, who was the French history specialist dealing with history later than what I was covering; she could not help me out at all because she has never studied the topic I chose (her specialty is Enlightenment Political Theory), but she was interested in the topic and since her and I are close we decided she'd supervise the writing of my thesis so that she could learn from what I had done and take it in another direction in her own research if she wished to. 3. From my own past knowledge of intellectual history of the time and ecclesiastical reactions to it, I picked the starting point of Peter Alebard. 4. As I conducted my research, using books of MY OWN CHOOSING, no one assigned them to me, I picked a series of writers on both sides of the ecclesiastical divide, from the "heretics" like Abelard to the church supported authors like Thomas Aquinas to the split of the Church with examples like Martin Luther to the seeds of skepticism with Michele de Montaigne. Again, no one assigned these people (and others I covered, this is a VERY short list of the people I talked about); I PICKED THEM MYSELF. And when I picked them, I always read at least 3 books on them all, so that I could get a 3 dimensional view (typically one book praising the author, one book vilifying the author and one book which placed them within their historical context and was as neutral as possible), in addition to reading original works by the authors themselves. 5. I chose research works on the rise and subsequent fall of the Valois dynasty, again from my own searching. (Remember, my professor specialized in the Enlightenment, and this is close to 300 years before what she has studied herself) I read personal biographies on the key characters, works of their own creation, and political/religious histories of the time period (normally totaling 3 biographies for the key figures, 1 work of their own creation for each key figure and at least 10 books on the political/religious developments of the time; this includes 4 different views of the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre) 6. I synthesized all of the information I had researched. I decided what fit and what didn't fit to me. If I couldn't fit it in after some subsequent questioning and checking, I still used it in the paper as a call for further treatment. 7. Once I had traced the thesis of the paper through all of this information in a way that made sense to me, I wrote the paper. It was accepted as a successful Masters Thesis and I was thereby awarded my Masters Degree. Again, I'd like to point out I did this all INDEPENDENTLY! The prof who was "supervising" me didn't even read it until it was finished and I had submitted it for consideration for acceptance. We did not even meet weekly to discuss the paper, like we were supposed to because we were both too busy and she trusted I'd get the work done. After it had been accepted, she and I met and discussed what I'd discovered in the paper. She made some tie-ins for future research going into her time period, and gave me some practical pointers if I wished to present the paper at a conference. I look forward to you trying to figure out how I was "lead" or "sheeped" through this one. I look forward to it because I look forward to "Enlightening" you.

Treasure Moment wrote: Ok the thing you are talking about is a PROJECT you had to do and there you are given certain freedom to choose books etc but what about the rest of the time at university? they didnt have a program for you to follow? they all have it. You have to follow their programming, study it, throw it up on the exam paper. As i said its all programming and there are people who havent gone to high school that are 10 times more intelligent than someone with high university education. I dont see someone who is able to be programmed well as being intelligent, all they show is that they can hold information well.

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: Ok the thing you are talking about is a PROJECT you had to do and there you are given certain freedom to choose books etc but what about the rest of the time at university? they didnt have a program for you to follow? they all have it. You have to follow their programming, study it, throw it up on the exam paper. As i said its all programming and there are people who havent gone to high school that are 10 times more intelligent than someone with high university education. I dont see someone who is able to be programmed well as being intelligent, all they show is that they can hold information well.

So yet more evidence that you are wrong and yet you still persist with the same old crap. Still, despite the fact that universities serve no purpose, that all they do is program students with useless info., and all they produce at the end is idiots and sheep, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE ENROLLED IN A UNIVERSITY COURSE! Which makes you at the very least a total hypocrite.

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: Ok the thing you are talking about is a PROJECT you had to do and there you are given certain freedom to choose books etc but what about the rest of the time at university? they didnt have a program for you to follow? they all have it. You have to follow their programming, study it, throw it up on the exam paper. As i said its all programming and there are people who havent gone to high school that are 10 times more intelligent than someone with high university education. I dont see someone who is able to be programmed well as being intelligent, all they show is that they can hold information well.

So yet more evidence that you are wrong and yet you still persist with the same old crap. Still, despite the fact that universities serve no purpose, that all they do is program students with useless info., and all they produce at the end is idiots and sheep, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE ENROLLED IN A UNIVERSITY COURSE! Which makes you at the very least a total hypocrite.

Look, there is a system installed and in order to survive you have to follow it. You are still missing the point, the point isnt that the education is useless, its that university education doenst make you SMARTER! There are ALOT of braindead sheep who just go to university, restore the info, throw it up on the exam paper and get their degrees but they are still mindless IDIOTS! get my point?

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: Ok the thing you are talking about is a PROJECT you had to do and there you are given certain freedom to choose books etc but what about the rest of the time at university? they didnt have a program for you to follow? they all have it. You have to follow their programming, study it, throw it up on the exam paper. As i said its all programming and there are people who havent gone to high school that are 10 times more intelligent than someone with high university education. I dont see someone who is able to be programmed well as being intelligent, all they show is that they can hold information well.

So yet more evidence that you are wrong and yet you still persist with the same old crap. Still, despite the fact that universities serve no purpose, that all they do is program students with useless info., and all they produce at the end is idiots and sheep, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE ENROLLED IN A UNIVERSITY COURSE! Which makes you at the very least a total hypocrite.

Look, there is a system installed and in order to survive you have to follow it. You are still missing the point, the point isnt that the education is useless, its that university education doenst make you SMARTER! There are ALOT of braindead sheep who just go to university, restore the info, throw it up on the exam paper and get their degrees but they are still mindless IDIOTS! get my point?

No that's not your point. It may be now, after you've had your ass handed to you, but the whole time you have been posting your dullard thoughts on QZ you have stated that anyone who disagrees with you is a sheep, that everyone is programmed (except you), and that universities -- ALL UNIVERSITIES -- program students with rote learning and that ALL STUDENTS are idiotic sheep. Now that you have to face up to the fact that you are wrong, you have slightly realligned your argument (without admitting you are wrong of course, your hugely misinflated ego wouldn't allow that). The game's up TM: you've been caught with your trousers down and it's not a pretty sight.

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: Ok the thing you are talking about is a PROJECT you had to do and there you are given certain freedom to choose books etc but what about the rest of the time at university? they didnt have a program for you to follow? they all have it. You have to follow their programming, study it, throw it up on the exam paper. As i said its all programming and there are people who havent gone to high school that are 10 times more intelligent than someone with high university education. I dont see someone who is able to be programmed well as being intelligent, all they show is that they can hold information well.

So yet more evidence that you are wrong and yet you still persist with the same old crap. Still, despite the fact that universities serve no purpose, that all they do is program students with useless info., and all they produce at the end is idiots and sheep, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE ENROLLED IN A UNIVERSITY COURSE! Which makes you at the very least a total hypocrite.

Look, there is a system installed and in order to survive you have to follow it. You are still missing the point, the point isnt that the education is useless, its that university education doenst make you SMARTER! There are ALOT of braindead sheep who just go to university, restore the info, throw it up on the exam paper and get their degrees but they are still mindless IDIOTS! get my point?

No that's not your point. It may be now, after you've had your ass handed to you, but the whole time you have been posting your dullard thoughts on QZ you have stated that anyone who disagrees with you is a sheep, that everyone is programmed (except you), and that universities -- ALL UNIVERSITIES -- program students with rote learning and that ALL STUDENTS are idiotic sheep. Now that you have to face up to the fact that you are wrong, you have slightly realligned your argument (without admitting you are wrong of course, your hugely misinflated ego wouldn't allow that). The game's up TM: you've been caught with your trousers down and it's not a pretty sight.

what are you talking about? why dont you go to page 2 and read my reply there: "Im just saying that people who go to university think they are smart BUT they arent AT ALL. Its all programming, like transfering a file from a cd to the harddrive, they themselves havent done shit! its all being downloaded like a file so a person with high education still can be totally dumb. thats what ive said all the time. "

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: Ok the thing you are talking about is a PROJECT you had to do and there you are given certain freedom to choose books etc but what about the rest of the time at university? they didnt have a program for you to follow? they all have it. You have to follow their programming, study it, throw it up on the exam paper. As i said its all programming and there are people who havent gone to high school that are 10 times more intelligent than someone with high university education. I dont see someone who is able to be programmed well as being intelligent, all they show is that they can hold information well.

So yet more evidence that you are wrong and yet you still persist with the same old crap. Still, despite the fact that universities serve no purpose, that all they do is program students with useless info., and all they produce at the end is idiots and sheep, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU ARE ENROLLED IN A UNIVERSITY COURSE! Which makes you at the very least a total hypocrite.

Look, there is a system installed and in order to survive you have to follow it. You are still missing the point, the point isnt that the education is useless, its that university education doenst make you SMARTER! There are ALOT of braindead sheep who just go to university, restore the info, throw it up on the exam paper and get their degrees but they are still mindless IDIOTS! get my point?

No that's not your point. It may be now, after you've had your ass handed to you, but the whole time you have been posting your dullard thoughts on QZ you have stated that anyone who disagrees with you is a sheep, that everyone is programmed (except you), and that universities -- ALL UNIVERSITIES -- program students with rote learning and that ALL STUDENTS are idiotic sheep. Now that you have to face up to the fact that you are wrong, you have slightly realligned your argument (without admitting you are wrong of course, your hugely misinflated ego wouldn't allow that). The game's up TM: you've been caught with your trousers down and it's not a pretty sight.

what are you talking about? why dont you go to page 2 and read my reply there: "Im just saying that people who go to university think they are smart BUT they arent AT ALL. Its all programming, like transfering a file from a cd to the harddrive, they themselves havent done shit! its all being downloaded like a file so a person with high education still can be totally dumb. thats what ive said all the time. "

Is page 2 as far back as your memory goes then?

Holly2003 wrote: So your memory DOES only go back that far. That explains a lot. You are special.

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: So your memory DOES only go back that far. That explains a lot. You are special.

Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: So your memory DOES only go back that far. That explains a lot. You are special.

Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

You're not different, just "special".

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: So your memory DOES only go back that far. That explains a lot. You are special.

Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

You're not different, just "special".

yes im special, in not a fucking braindead sheep like most of you.

inu-liger wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: So your memory DOES only go back that far. That explains a lot. You are special.

Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

You're not different, just "special".

yes im special, in not a fucking braindead sheep like most of you.

He meant it in a retarded way And can't you admit you're ever wrong? I guess not.

Treasure Moment wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote: So your memory DOES only go back that far. That explains a lot. You are special.

Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

You're not different, just "special".

yes im special, in not a fucking braindead sheep like most of you.

He meant it in a retarded way And can't you admit you're ever wrong? I guess not.

those who are "sane" in an insane world are the REAL insane! meaning YOU retarded sheeple

Treasure Moment wrote: A guy who has never studied in his life can be 100 times smarter than a university professor.

Treasure Moment wrote: Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: A guy who has never studied in his life can be 100 times smarter than a university professor.

Prove it, right now. Or are sensationalist claims and emotional statements all you are capable of?

Treasure Moment wrote: Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

Then why are all of your posts the same bullshit? You and Andreas could honestly be two accounts on the same computer.

Zebonka12 wrote: But that's bullshit. I had teachers and lecturers that encouraged me to think for myself; to find my own meaning in things. If I HADN'T had the education that I had, I could easily have been one of those sheep you keep talking about. If education were simply 60000 uninterrupted games of Trivial Pursuit, then I might agree with you. As I said earlier, I don't know what rat-trap of a 'university' you're studying in (it's probably a cellar), but it sounds like they're doing it wrong.

MasterHistoryGirl wrote: *Sits back, watching the events unfold with popcorn* That's why I love getting him riled up. Watching him spin off like a top is terribly amusing. Too bad I can't do this all day long.

Treasure Moment wrote: I have said it 10 times now, education doesnt make you smarter, it just gives the files needed for you to properly work in the line of work you need those files.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: A guy who has never studied in his life can be 100 times smarter than a university professor.

Prove it, right now. Or are sensationalist claims and emotional statements all you are capable of?

Treasure Moment wrote: Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

Then why are all of your posts the same bullshit? You and Andreas could honestly be two accounts on the same computer.

Holly2003 wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: A guy who has never studied in his life can be 100 times smarter than a university professor.

Prove it, right now. Or are sensationalist claims and emotional statements all you are capable of?

Treasure Moment wrote: Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

Then why are all of your posts the same bullshit? You and Andreas could honestly be two accounts on the same computer.

I too would like to see some proof of Treasure Moment's claim to be "smarter than a university professor".

Treasure Moment wrote:

Holly2003 wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote: A guy who has never studied in his life can be 100 times smarter than a university professor.

Prove it, right now. Or are sensationalist claims and emotional statements all you are capable of?

Treasure Moment wrote: Of course im different, im not a braindead closeminded programmed robot sheep as most people.

Then why are all of your posts the same bullshit? You and Andreas could honestly be two accounts on the same computer.

I too would like to see some proof of Treasure Moment's claim to be "smarter than a university professor".

well i dont know how many times i have to say this, a professor is someone who has spent alot of time downloading files into his head and is expert at a certain field. This doesnt mean he is a smart person or openminded, logical. Someone who has never studied could be smarter as he could be more openminded, more logical and intelligent. It all depends on the individual and nothing to do with university education.