| danwhite89 19.06.2008 04:51 |
*Another One Bites The Dust, if you couldn't decipher it :) I just think it's pretty astounding. Listening to the song, it really sounds like synths are being used, but obviously they weren't. But it leads to two questions... a) Do you think John wrote the song just wanting to experiment with other music-making techniques or b) Do you think he made it like that attempting not to resort to synths? I'd phone him but he never answers my calls anymore. |
| Treasure Moment 19.06.2008 05:20 |
synth is a fundamental part of Queen. |
| inu-liger 19.06.2008 06:51 |
Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.From "The Game" onwards. All their albums prior to Game always made a point to state "No Synthesizers!" on the sleeves, more or less. |
| pittrek 19.06.2008 06:58 |
Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.Which band did record the albums from "Queen" until " Live Killers" ? |
| john bodega 19.06.2008 07:11 |
Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.For songs like "The Show Must Go On", "Was It All Worth It", and "Don't Try So Hard", sure. And it works pretty well in "Save Me". And for most of the stuff on "Made in Heaven". As for the rest of the time, it usually sounds dated and shitty. Fuck synths, it wouldn't have hurt Queen to have waited for the technology to catch up a bit. I cringe when I hear "One Vision" sometimes. |
| danwhite89 19.06.2008 08:14 |
I made a note in another topic, and I think some songs don't need synths. Save Me could easily have done without. I don't mind One Vision, but it works just as well with pianos (at least when I play the synth part on piano). Also "Play The Game" is the worst culprit. Sounds awful! The live non-synth version on Rock Montreal is so much better! |
| Major Tom 19.06.2008 09:06 |
Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.You've lost it bro. Nu är du ute och cyklar. |
| onevsion 19.06.2008 10:51 |
Who gives a damn? We don't live in the 70's anymore. As long as it sounds good, synths are OK |
| thomasquinn 32989 19.06.2008 10:54 |
Ducksoup wrote: Who gives a damn? We don't live in the 70's anymore. As long as it sounds good, synths are OKRight on. Every instrument is a new timbre; it's just a matter of finding the right notes to go with it. |
| Wiley 19.06.2008 12:42 |
Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.That is SO wrong. Freddie's voice, Brian's guitar, their songwriting, the tongue in cheek, the anthemic quality of many of their songs... those are fundamental parts of Queen. Not Synths! I have nothing against synths (I love The Game and Hot Space) when they are properly used and if the music is actually any good but I think that Pre-synth-Queen kicks Synths-Queen's ass any day. Specially live. Synths may have allowed them to compose and arrange their music easier in the latter years but they made them a bit lazy as well. The latest and greatest example of this is the synth sound on SINT (hmm). The good thing is that it is only predominant in the first half of the song and the second part rocks very hard :). |
| Wiley 19.06.2008 12:50 |
Back on topic: yes, I think it's amazing that there are no synths in AOBTD. For many years I thought there were some in there. This is yet another proof of Queen's musical craftmanship in a deceivingly simple and radio friendly song. Another good example is Bicycle Race, I think. |
| pittrek 19.06.2008 13:10 |
danwhite89 wrote: I'd phone him but he never answers my calls anymore.I never thought I will write it, but - LOL Welcome to QueenZone, Brian :-) |
| Wilki Amieva 19.06.2008 13:31 |
Hey Thomas! Why on Earth do you have a 'wiwaxia corrugata' as your avatar!? |
| Major Tom 19.06.2008 14:47 |
No. I don't think it's amazing. With this statement in mind: Tom Morello of RATM. He produces some serious strange shit with his gear. However, with all the pedals and shit they plug into their guitars I think they turn them more or like into Synths... |
| louvox 19.06.2008 16:05 |
Who cares? It's a shitty song to begin with. Probably there most overrated & overplayed song. |
| emrabt 19.06.2008 16:30 |
Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a part of Queen.yes, a very fundamental part, in fact can you imagine Nevermore or You And I without synths? |
| Wiley 19.06.2008 16:41 |
emrabt wrote:... or Bohemian Rhapsody, Killer Queen, WWRY, WATC, The Prophet's Song, Procession, Somebody to Love, etc, etc.Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a part of Queen.yes, a very fundamental part, in fact can you imagine Nevermore or You And I without synths? |
| Deacon Fan 19.06.2008 19:30 |
I think the backwards piano and such just proves that they were quite aware of how other things sounded backwards in that song ;) |
| Real Life 11.08.2008 20:19 |
Is this a joke? Then it's a good one. I'm new here you know, so... anyway I think it says in the credits of The Game that an Oberheim synth was used on the album, and there's obviously one on AOBTD... again, maybe I'm not getting the joke here.. Still I agree, it was a big change away from the lush 70s no synths approach, but also a necessary change into the 80s... |
| i-Fred 12.08.2008 01:03 |
Real Life wrote: Is this a joke? Then it's a good one. I'm new here you know, so... anyway I think it says in the credits of The Game that an Oberheim synth was used on the album, and there's obviously one on AOBTD... again, maybe I'm not getting the joke here.. Still I agree, it was a big change away from the lush 70s no synths approach, but also a necessary change into the 80s...actually it's no Joke dude... synths were on the album, but AOBTD does NOT have them on there, all brians works with his red special. |
| thomasquinn 32989 12.08.2008 06:59 |
inu-liger wrote:Synths on The Game provide nothing more than a few ambient sound effects, really; I'd state Flash Gordon as the first true synth-effort. Anyways, what does Treasure Moment know about music?Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.From "The Game" onwards. All their albums prior to Game always made a point to state "No Synthesizers!" on the sleeves, more or less. |
| Sebastian 12.08.2008 07:57 |
inu-liger wrote:Actually not: neither 'News' or 'Jazz' have the 'no synths' line, so they didn't *always* made that point.Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.From "The Game" onwards. All their albums prior to Game always made a point to state "No Synthesizers!" on the sleeves, more or less. Wiley wrote:Actually, Brian?s guitar isn?t as important as Brian?s guitar playing; Freddie?s voice isn?t as important as Freddie?s singing.Treasure Moment wrote: synth is a fundamental part of Queen.That is SO wrong. Freddie's voice, Brian's guitar, their songwriting, the tongue in cheek, the anthemic quality of many of their songs... those are fundamental parts of Queen. Not Synths! shemp wrote:It's NOT all Brian?s work with the Red Special. Loads of effects on that song aren?t Brian, but John on backwards piano, or Roger on e-drums. Indeed, there are no synths in AOBtD.Real Life wrote: Is this a joke? Then it's a good one. I'm new here you know, so... anyway I think it says in the credits of The Game that an Oberheim synth was used on the album, and there's obviously one on AOBTD... again, maybe I'm not getting the joke here.. Still I agree, it was a big change away from the lush 70s no synths approach, but also a necessary change into the 80s...actually it's no Joke dude... synths were on the album, but AOBTD does NOT have them on there, all brians works with his red special. |