| Freddie May 12.06.2008 09:36 |
Apparently the BBC has made a deal with EMI to release some of their stuff. Check the news here: link |
| brENsKi 12.06.2008 09:51 |
well i'm assuming that you put this in "queen serious discussion" because oyu feel the queen bbc sessions will be up for release....unfortunately, this is not the case. the mindless oafs at Auntie Beeb destroyed an awful lot of old radio session and tv tapes to "make some archival space available" (ironic?) and so many 1960s/70s session tapes are gone for good...the only queen stuff to be officially heard is that that was already released....unless someone knows better? |
| Adam Baboolal 12.06.2008 13:45 |
True that about the numpty's at the beeb. Unbelieveable idiocy. Such a bloody waste for many. Anyway, the only glimmer of light would be personal recordings taken off the airwaves by fans and enthusiasts alike. Maybe this is something that will be explored? Adam. |
| YourValentine 12.06.2008 15:44 |
The original BBC tapes where bought by a well known collector who rescued them from the trash bin. He has posted about this on this board various times. I seem to remember that the Queen Archivist said that QP owns a copy, too. |
| Adam Baboolal 12.06.2008 17:50 |
YourValentine wrote: The original BBC tapes where bought by a well known collector who rescued them from the trash bin. He has posted about this on this board various times. I seem to remember that the Queen Archivist said that QP owns a copy, too.Ah ha! Didn't know that. Thanks YV! Adam. |
| inu-liger 12.06.2008 23:18 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:I can second this. Greg did say years ago, they did get "donated" an off-air copy of the famous 'lost' session with White Queen, Nevermore, etc. from a collector (not necessarily bought/sold, but who knows), and I believe this was mentioned during one of his demo playback shows at the UK conventions (possibly around 2001?)YourValentine wrote: The original BBC tapes where bought by a well known collector who rescued them from the trash bin. He has posted about this on this board various times. I seem to remember that the Queen Archivist said that QP owns a copy, too.Ah ha! Didn't know that. Thanks YV! Adam. |
| pootle50 13.06.2008 06:14 |
Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point. |
| Tero 13.06.2008 10:16 |
pootle50 wrote: Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point.And you believe him? |
| Olavi 15.06.2008 06:37 |
Greg has also said many other things. |
| cmsdrums 15.06.2008 14:29 |
pootle50 wrote: Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point.And the BBC tracks were also advertised as a 'forthcoming' release on the Let Me Live singles releases too!!! Empty promises again (and yes, I do believe that actually going as far as to say on a single sleeve that the BBC sessions is shortly being released IS a promise!) |
| Richard Orchard 16.06.2008 23:16 |
the good thing is that EMI are strapped for cash - or at least are under pressure by their owners to deliver more. So, hopefully for us this will translate to more releases. The caveat being that the releases are good stuff, not hits compilations or whatever. |
| Negative Creep 17.06.2008 10:56 |
Richard Orchard wrote: the good thing is that EMI are strapped for cash - or at least are under pressure by their owners to deliver more. So, hopefully for us this will translate to more releases. The caveat being that the releases are good stuff, not hits compilations or whatever.EMIs situation will have no bearing on Queen releases as they don't control the recordings - Queen Productions do. The lack of quality releases is purely down to QPL not EMI, who would probably release just about anything QPL delivered to them. |
| Adam Baboolal 17.06.2008 11:25 |
cmsdrums wrote:They DID release at the Beeb. I own a copy. I also have that Let Me Live single with the red cover.pootle50 wrote: Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point.And the BBC tracks were also advertised as a 'forthcoming' release on the Let Me Live singles releases too!!! Empty promises again (and yes, I do believe that actually going as far as to say on a single sleeve that the BBC sessions is shortly being released IS a promise!) Adam. |
| Nummer2 17.06.2008 12:07 |
This one? link |
| Adam Baboolal 17.06.2008 13:26 |
Yeah, that's the one! It even has a bit of the cover that is on the BBC release. |
| PieterMC 17.06.2008 13:33 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:There was going to be another BBC release. It was never released though as Jim Beach did not want to "flood the market".cmsdrums wrote:They DID release at the Beeb. I own a copy. I also have that Let Me Live single with the red cover. Adam.pootle50 wrote: Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point.And the BBC tracks were also advertised as a 'forthcoming' release on the Let Me Live singles releases too!!! Empty promises again (and yes, I do believe that actually going as far as to say on a single sleeve that the BBC sessions is shortly being released IS a promise!) |
| Penetration_Guru 17.06.2008 17:21 |
Adam Baboolal wrote:There was to be a further, supplementary volume, to include additional material. The album you have contains two BBC Sessions. A total of six were recorded.cmsdrums wrote:They DID release at the Beeb. I own a copy. I also have that Let Me Live single with the red cover. Adam.pootle50 wrote: Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point.And the BBC tracks were also advertised as a 'forthcoming' release on the Let Me Live singles releases too!!! Empty promises again (and yes, I do believe that actually going as far as to say on a single sleeve that the BBC sessions is shortly being released IS a promise!) |
| Winter Land Man 17.06.2008 20:12 |
Though there won't be any Queen stuff, I'm excited about some Beach Boys stuff being released! |
| Adam Baboolal 18.06.2008 04:56 |
Well, yeah, I know there were 6 sessions of recordings. That's why this new set is being compiled. The complete BBC sessions for Queen. I look forward to it. Adam. |
| cmsdrums 18.06.2008 14:50 |
Penetration_Guru wrote:Exactly. The 'Band of Joy' Beeb release came out in about 1989, but the Let Mr Live single a few years later promised an imminent new release (presumably carrying all BBC sessions)Adam Baboolal wrote:There was to be a further, supplementary volume, to include additional material. The album you have contains two BBC Sessions. A total of six were recorded.cmsdrums wrote:They DID release at the Beeb. I own a copy. I also have that Let Me Live single with the red cover. Adam.pootle50 wrote: Greg stated at this years conventions that all of these will be released at some point.And the BBC tracks were also advertised as a 'forthcoming' release on the Let Me Live singles releases too!!! Empty promises again (and yes, I do believe that actually going as far as to say on a single sleeve that the BBC sessions is shortly being released IS a promise!) |
| Benn 20.06.2008 06:20 |
But, if they are going to do it PROPERLY, they should include the Golders Green show (BBC Radio In Concert), Hammersmith '75 (BBC OGWT), Hammersmith '79 (BBC OGWT) and anything else related to "Queen At The Beeb". Interview material etc etc. |
| Fenderek 20.06.2008 13:31 |
Benn wrote: But, if they are going to do it PROPERLY.Yeah... when was it last time they did it properly? ;) |
| Adam Baboolal 20.06.2008 19:42 |
Surely BBC sessions means the recording sessions..? Not everything they've done at the BBC, or you should start including their other appearances. No. The other mentioned radio stuff can come out with the boxset materials, etc. Though, true, as long as it's not a video'd concert, it would fit as a bonus extra. Adam. |
| pittrek 21.06.2008 06:41 |
Benn wrote: But, if they are going to do it PROPERLY, they should include the Golders Green show (BBC Radio In Concert), Hammersmith '75 (BBC OGWT), Hammersmith '79 (BBC OGWT) and anything else related to "Queen At The Beeb". Interview material etc etc.Well it appears that we have the same taste :-) But I believe that they would prefer to release the sessions only, then release a "deluxe edition" with new remasters of the sessions + Golders Green, then some "collectors edition" with again new remasters of the sessions + Golders Green Hippodrome + Hammersmith Odeon 75, and a few years later (when DVDs will be dead) they release a "definitive version" containing a DVD release of Hammersmith 75. BTW was Hammersmith 79 ever broadcasted on BBC ? I know that it was RECORDED by the BBC people, but I have never seen any evidence that it was broadcasted. The only TV broadcast I know about is the approx. 50 min long german TV show from 1980 (?) which contained only a small part of the concert, and the film which contained Crazy Little Thing Called Love |
| Bad Seed 21.06.2008 07:44 |
Hammersmith 79 was never broadcast by the BBC nor was it recorded by the BBC. It was broadcast by ITV and recorded by ITN. Yes ITN the news people. |
| Negative Creep 21.06.2008 15:47 |
Well, the chances of QPL releasing any of this is slim to none really innit? If they ever did it would make most sense to do a standard version with just the radio session tracks, plus a deluxe version with any gig audio/footage included. One can dream I suppose. Also, no ones mentioned the Rainbow March '74 show that was recorded (and filmed?) and broadcast by the BBC. |
| pittrek 22.06.2008 05:38 |
Negative Creep wrote: Also, no ones mentioned the Rainbow March '74 show that was recorded (and filmed?) and broadcast by the BBC.Was it ? I thought it's only ANOTHER myth |
| Benn 22.06.2008 17:17 |
Adam, If they call it "Queen At The Beeb" or "Queen At The BBC", then yes - everything possible should be included. If it's titled "Queen - The BBC Sessions", then you're absolutely right - session material only. However, Free recently released "Live At The BBC", which included live studio session material and also "boot" versions (official BBC versions didn't exist, so they reverted to the best possible fan recording from the radio) of two "In Concert" sessions. The Who's version "Live At The BBC" included studio session material and two cuts from the OGWT which had live vocals over a re-recorded backing track. Led Zeppelin's "BBC Sessions" featured both studio session material and "In Concert" recordings. Muddies the water a bit, but, personally, I believe we're more likely to get everything released in the one set than have it split out over multiple releases. A complete BBC box would (could!) look great and would beat any other artist's set released so far, of which, Fairport Convention's is superb! |
| Tero 23.06.2008 01:36 |
Of course, if the choice is getting half of the BBC material this decade and the other half in another thirty years, or all wrapped up nicely together in a box thirty years from now, I think I know which I would choose... ;) |
| Adam Baboolal 23.06.2008 19:23 |
I like the idea, Benn. Certainly, if it's possible to do, then yes, I believe it probably is a good one to pursue. Just make sure and let QP, Brian or Greg or whoever's in charge, exactly what your idea is. And not leave it to chance that someone will chance upon your idea. Seriously. Adam. |
| pittrek 24.06.2008 02:16 |
What about "bombing" Queen Production with requests ? :-) |
| Benn 24.06.2008 07:56 |
Adam / Pittrek, Thanks for the support, but my experiences with QPL in the past heve lead me to not bothering to contact them about ANYTHING. I think we can all safely say thatthe prefered option on a BBC set would be for it to be all-encompassing and complete to as great a degree as possible with the best mastering and mixing applied to the lowest generation tapes available. Lavish packaging, liner notes, essays and photography of the highest order. Something that would be worthy of the Queen name and would have passed the scrutiny of Mr. Mercury were he alive to give his creative input to the project. I'm sure that there are many people here (JSS?) that have spoken to or contacted QPL with all kinds of ideas over the years and absolutely nothing ever marterialises. I had tried the OIQFC (when I was silly enough to be a member) regarding all kinds of book / website ideas and drew a complete blank on everything. I've tried contacting Brian through his soapbox, but, as with everything these days, unless it's about zodiacal dust, Kerry Ellis or the musical, nothing, apparently, reaches his ears. Greg is another "spanner in the works" although to a lesser degree. It appears that he certainly is involved in the organisatio / planning of product to some degree, but, as such, we are unaware to what level this is. I asked him a number of questions in another thread here somewhere around all of this (the degree and invluence he has) but was met with a no response. I fear that, again, unless it's something he wants to hear, then ears are firmly closed. Greg, if you do happen to read this, please private message me as I have a number of ideas around a BBC box set that would be stunning and blow all other artist's BBC collections out of the water. Does anyone else have any line into the higher echelons of the organisation where a proposal could be pitched? |