| RedSpecial1979 07.04.2008 12:13 |
Brought to my attention by a friend and fellow Queenphile... anyone else notice how similar the main riff of "C-Lebrity" is to the main riff from "The Metal" by Tenacious D? I mean, it's VERY VERRY close... thoughts? |
| PieterMC 07.04.2008 12:18 |
Brian May tried to kill the metal, but the metal had its way. |
| A Word In Your Ear 07.04.2008 12:21 |
Funny you should say that, This Saturday just gone, I was in my car listening to my newly ripped version of C-Lebrity, when my cousin stated the same thing, "It's the riff from "The Metal" he said. Well not being familier with that track I could not comment, but since listening to it, YES very Simular indeed. Maybe Roger is a Jack Black Fan? |
| PieterMC 07.04.2008 12:25 |
It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest. |
| RedSpecial1979 07.04.2008 12:34 |
I don't want to call Brian on plagiarism here (he is my hero, after all) but it's sooo close... it's kind of like Steve Miller's "the Stake" ripping off "Rocky Mountain Way", only in that case it was a flat out rip-off. Worst case scenario, I'll blame Paul for it. |
| john bodega 07.04.2008 13:19 |
If I sat down and had a listen to the last 30 years worth of rock riffs, I could probably find older instances of a riff like this than Tenacious D.... |
| pittrek 07.04.2008 13:32 |
PieterMC wrote: It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.Exactly |
| Mr Faron Hyte 07.04.2008 13:51 |
pittrek wrote:Well then let's accuse Brian of stealing from Judas Priest. That somehow seems a little more dignified that stealing from Jack Black.PieterMC wrote: It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.Exactly Otherwise, by all means, let the Queenzone community's character assassination of Brian May continue unabated ... he's such a deliciously evil and deserving target of our scorn. |
| Pim Derks 07.04.2008 14:51 |
I hope The D won't succumb to Brian's Curse :( |
| RedSpecial1979 07.04.2008 15:30 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote:Of course. The rotter... (insert sarcasm face)pittrek wrote:Well then let's accuse Brian of stealing from Judas Priest. That somehow seems a little more dignified that stealing from Jack Black. Otherwise, by all means, let the Queenzone community's character assassination of Brian May continue unabated ... he's such a deliciously evil and deserving target of our scorn.PieterMC wrote: It also sounds like Touch of Evil by Judas Priest.Exactly Just wondering if anyone else caught the similarity. No true scorn intended. Brian's always been one of the most innovative guitar players around - he wouldn't outright steal a riff. He wouldn't need to. This one just happens to sound like something else, that's all. Not exactly, but close. I'm sure, eons ago, a caveman hit two logs and grunted, thereby halfway composing WWRY... doesn't make that one stolen either... Besides, aren't we supposed to be heaping the scorn on Greg Brooks? :) |
| PieterMC 07.04.2008 15:35 |
Pim Derks wrote: I hope The D won't succumb to Brian's Curse :(They are protected by Satan. |
| steven 35638 07.04.2008 16:01 |
It's practically impossible to escape from plagiarism these days. Rock musicians are bound to copy each other regardless of whether they know it or not. |
| PieterMC 07.04.2008 16:17 |
<font color=black face=biondi>Steven wrote: It's practically impossible to escape from plagiarism these days. Rock musicians are bound to copy each other regardless of whether they know it or not.I guess everybody should just give up writing music since there is nothing original left to create. |
| Phill the Thrill 07.04.2008 17:18 |
i felt the same thing, but i still love the track |
| Adam Baboolal 07.04.2008 17:39 |
Like Tenacious D's track? No. Like Judas Priest's track...yes, there's a similarity in the riff and way it's played. But apart from that, not a big deal. It's true you can't come up with much that's new these days, but Brian has done plenty great stuff before. I'll never forget the time I created a great riff by myself and thought, "YES!" But then I stuck on Dead On Time and while it wasn't the same, it had a similar vibe about it. Damn... :( But hey, who cares? Adam. |
| theCro 07.04.2008 22:31 |
it's not stolen it's Brian's riff |
| Serry... 07.04.2008 23:55 |
theCro wrote: it's not stolen it's Brian's riffWe like such relied upon the facts and vouchers opinions. Give us some more please! |
| redspecialusa 08.04.2008 00:50 |
Despite being a Judas Priest fan, I can't say that I'm super familiar with that song. Furthermore, anybody here with a brain can see that this song is primarily Roger's creation. Roger plays guitar too; So, how can anyone go to assume that if there's a catchy riff in the song that Brian automatically wrote it? Remember the guitar parts that Freddie wrote for Brian to play? As far as the riff being stolen...I say Led Zeppelin is far more guilty of 'stealing' riffs than Queen. Not to knock Zeppelin either, I am keen to their music. But let's all be fair about this. |
| john bodega 08.04.2008 02:07 |
Group hug, come on. Rock is about stealing riffs. I did it last year, nobody cared. It's a rock song; riffs can only be a certain number of notes long before they get boring, and you've only got x number of keys that people will enjoy listening to, etcetera. And again; stealing from Tenacious D???? I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less. |
| Dan C. 08.04.2008 02:22 |
Haggis McShagPants wrote: I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less.That doesn't make him a bad musician, though. |
| john bodega 08.04.2008 02:54 |
Dan Corson IV: Among the Living wrote:I dunno if that's aimed at me but I never said he was a bad musician.Haggis McShagPants wrote: I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less.That doesn't make him a bad musician, though. |
| Cwazy little thing 08.04.2008 09:16 |
It would be Kyle Gass, not Jack Black, as Im convinced Jack's more of a lyricist/singer who can play guitar than a guitarist who writes - I think the music comes from KG mostly. As for whether its a rip off - a passing similarity in the main riff at most - nothing to lose sleep over, and the direction of the song is entirely different. I cant be bothered checking if its even in the same key, but to my ears its just a few similar notes - not enough to amount to any sort of copying. And I'd bet none of the guys have heard The Metal by the D anyway, which just makes it a coincidence. My old band were once beaten in an online BOTB by some Aussie outfit who's best song was basically Trampled Underfoot by Led Zep - now that was a rip off, as thats one riff thats far too distinctive for it to have been an original by this unsigned band, and the song as whole, including the vocal melody and the feel and direction of the song was incredibly similar. |
| kingogre 08.04.2008 11:37 |
agreee, with the above post. some parts of the metal sounds similar, far from a rip-off though. think its a fair bet that jack black or kyle gass or whoever wrote their song in turn nicked it from touch of evil by judas priest or some other of the songs that has been mentioned. their really great fans of that kind of music. must say after a few listens that the riff sounds awesome. for me the song has been a real grower except that the chorus still sounds a bit out of place. i think its a great song, the problem i had at first was that it wasnt at all what i expected. just my opionion though:) |
| Mr Faron Hyte 08.04.2008 21:06 |
Dan Corson IV: Among the Living wrote:Don't make him a good one either.Haggis McShagPants wrote: I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less.That doesn't make him a bad musician, though. |
| john bodega 09.04.2008 00:31 |
While we're talking about ripoffs, I'd just like to say fuck Wolfmother. I want them to take their crayons off of whatever Led Zeppelin songbook it is that they read before playing. Led Zeppelin, and the rest.... I had a good laugh once winding up a Wolfmother fan by telling them "Woman" was a shitty derivative turd. They started yelling at me, telling me how revolutionary the band was and I put my hands up and said "Hey, you need cooling. Obviously, Black Night is a long way from home." I don't think they got either reference to either band. Fuckers. |
| theCro 09.04.2008 04:41 |
its not ripoff. it's brian's riff. sto whining you little kids brian doesent need to steal any riff. it's his riff |
| Serry... 09.04.2008 05:15 |
...and you helped him to write it even... Jesus... He ripped it off from you! |
| Knute 09.04.2008 17:48 |
I just heard that Judas Priest tune. Give me a fucking break. That is such a common cliched rock rhythmic motif. Would someone seriously suggest Judas Priest was the first to come up with that riff? And then it goes to the IV chord like C-lebrity. OOoooo...a rock song that goes from the I to the IV chord? Boy that's never happened before in the history of rock. Brian surely sat in a room frustrated because he couldn't come up with anything, and someone brought him Touch of Evil and The Metal, and while Brian listened he knew he had to steal this stuff and damn the consequences. |
| Knute 09.04.2008 17:50 |
double posties |
| Leaky Luke 10.04.2008 05:07 |
I still think it sounds a lot like Led Zep's Wanton Song |
| We Are The Champions 10.04.2008 17:00 |
PieterMC wrote:Talking about plagiarism - Beatles "Taxman" and The Jam's "Start" springs to mind!!<font color=black face=biondi>Steven wrote: It's practically impossible to escape from plagiarism these days. Rock musicians are bound to copy each other regardless of whether they know it or not.I guess everybody should just give up writing music since there is nothing original left to create. |
| steven 35638 11.04.2008 00:18 |
"A good composer does not imitate; he steals." - Igor Stravinsky |
| john bodega 11.04.2008 14:08 |
It sounds a bit like the sound my dick makes when it's in Treasure Moment's mum's mouth. Stolen riff. |
| Borhap80 11.04.2008 14:09 |
Very funny..... not. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 11.04.2008 18:42 |
Dan Corson IV: Among the Living wrote:In my opinion he's a fucking great musician with so much fun injected into his work.Haggis McShagPants wrote: I love Jack Black but let's be clear; he's a parody artist, more or less.That doesn't make him a bad musician, though. |
| john bodega 12.04.2008 04:26 |
Thomas Tønnesen wrote: Very funny..... not.Don't talk to me about humour. |