gem27 31.03.2008 07:44 |
Hi I would just appreciate any feedback from people here who can rate either good, bad or average, Roger Taylor's solo albums especially Fun In Space and Strange Frontier but the later ones also. Are any good or bad? Are they much like the Queen stuff? I haven't ever heard anything from those albums I just mentioned and just a few songs from Electric Fire. |
Jeroen 31.03.2008 07:53 |
Lots of people hate me for my opinion on Roger's solo stuff. Most people like these albums because we are fans, but if you would review these as a non-fan... I'm afraid there is not a single one that stands out. Fun in Space - Dreadfull album, though cool to Queen fans who can handle some 'cult'-esque riffing. Strange Frontier - Mediocre album, some good songs but also some dreadfully silly tunes. Shote it - Piece of crap from the first to the last second. Mad Bad and Dangerous to know - pretty okay rock album, unfortunately doesn't sound as great anymore as it did in the time it came out. Blue Rock - Great record. Only one or two less good songs - PLUS some of the very best Roger 'solo'-efforts ever put to vinyl. Happiness? - Roger's finest real solo-album. Coherend, some great compositions (thanks to Yoshiki a.o.) and not too many bad songs ;-) Electric Fire - terrifyingly simplistic. Best track is a cover. Oh, right, and 'no', nothing Roger ever did solo comes even close to sounding like anything done with Queen. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 31.03.2008 08:12 |
Jeroen wrote: ... Oh, right, and 'no', nothing Roger ever did solo comes even close to sounding like anything done with Queen.This is a very subjective matter, it depends on what one would qualify as "close to sounding". That said, I would think many of Roger's songs have a Queen feeling to them. Not to mention Heaven for Everyone, from the top of my head come New Dark Ages, No More Fun and Happiness. I am sure there are many more, this is just what I remember right now. Cheers, Ogre- |
Rick 31.03.2008 08:50 |
Fun In Space dreadful? His best by far. No cheesy songs, like on his last two (too much emotional stuff for me and Freddie-I-miss-you-so-much crap) |
princetom 31.03.2008 09:56 |
personally i like "happiness" the most for it's relaxed mood. there are quite some good compositions on it and the songs themselves fit good together. strange frontier and fun in space are imo. some 80s crap and barely worth listening except for one or two songs like "man on fire", "strange frontier" or it's an illusion (which features rick parfitt from status quo, with whom rog sat in jail on menorca at this time :-) ). 'shove it' and 'electric fire' are very sample-based. you can state several samples for being remixed in a particially odd way. some people don't like that stuff. it's quite experimental and less 'deep' than any queen stuff. maybe you can compare the style with the 46664-stuff production-wise. quite some good songs on both of them. "mad bad..." is a good rock album with less roger influence as most of the songs were finished as roger first enters the studio "blue rock" ? grab it, buy it, love it. hope this helps a little. |
Jeroen 31.03.2008 10:08 |
princetom wrote: personally i like "happiness" the most for it's relaxed mood. there are quite some good compositions on it and the songs themselves fit good together. strange frontier and fun in space are imo. some 80s crap and barely worth listening except for one or two songs like "man on fire", "strange frontier" or it's an illusion (which features rick parfitt from status quo, with whom rog sat in jail on menorca at this time :-) ). 'shove it' and 'electric fire' are very sample-based. you can state several samples for being remixed in a particially odd way. some people don't like that stuff. it's quite experimental and less 'deep' than any queen stuff. maybe you can compare the style with the 46664-stuff production-wise. quite some good songs on both of them. "mad bad..." is a good rock album with less roger influence as most of the songs were finished as roger first enters the studio "blue rock" ? grab it, buy it, love it. hope this helps a little.Wow! Finally I found someone that agrees! ;-) |
paulosham 31.03.2008 10:28 |
They are all pretty awful. Most of Roger Taylor's Solo records are weak (don't get me started on the cross) lyrics are full of dreadful rock cliches and as with the other members of the group, their solo releases are nothing compared to their collaborative efforts. |
louvox 31.03.2008 10:39 |
I have heard all of Mr. Taylor’s solo records and own all but “The Cross” stuff. In my opinion none of his solo recordings stand out. “The Cross records do absolutely nothing for me and I find them quite boring and dated. His best effort is probably “Happiness?” Most of his solo songs sound like Queen rejects. I never though Roger Taylor was ever that good of a songwriter anyway. Of all the songs he has recorded with Queen and solo, his best are “I’m in love with my car”, “Coming soon” and “Say it’s not true” Really none of their solo records I would consider as “good” Brian May’s “Back to the light” is probably the best of the bunch with Freddie’s “Mr. Bad Guy” as the worst. |
Serry... 31.03.2008 11:10 |
Fun In Space, Blue Rock and Happiness are great ones. Shove It is not. |
PieterMC 31.03.2008 11:18 |
paulsmith2001 wrote: They are all pretty awful. Most of Roger Taylor's Solo records are weak (don't get me started on the cross) lyrics are full of dreadful rock cliches and as with the other members of the group, their solo releases are nothing compared to their collaborative efforts.Sorry, but Roger's solo efforts are great. The only other solo release that is better is Barcelona. |
Pim Derks 31.03.2008 12:28 |
Roger Taylor: I love Fun In Space. Yes, it's quite a basic rockalbum, but I love the 'feel' of the album. I've posted this before - I wish they'd release a collectors edition of this album with the original album and a second disc of extras (demo's, outtakes etc). Side one of Strange Frontier is great, though a bit dated. Side two sucks, though I Cry For You has some nice bits. Happiness? Very laid back feel. Nice album to put on, though the tracks all sound the same (except Nazis & Foreign Sand). Recommended. Electric Fire - loved it when it came out in 1998 - nowadays I think it's a bit boring. Pressure On and Surrender are great - the rest is Roger Taylor on the auto-pilot. Still waaaaay better than Strange Frontier. 1 - Fun In Space 2 - Happiness 3 - Electric Fire 4 - Strange Frontier The Cross: Shove It. Sucks. Avoid at all costs, unless you're into cheesy 80's synthrock. Mad Bad. Mostly MOTR-80's rock, but with quite a few cool riffs/bits (Old Friends, Sister Blue, PG). Blue Rock. Recommended. Life Changes and New Dark Ages make it worth the price-tag alone. |
Rick 31.03.2008 12:46 |
Bad Attitude is my fav from The Cross. |
gem27 31.03.2008 13:05 |
Thank you all for your input. I wasn't meaning the albums he did with The Cross anyway. I haven't heard any Cross stuff either but nor would I want to. The person that said 80's crap I can believe that. That was just the time we were in. All music sounds dated now that was made in the 80's. |
Micrówave 31.03.2008 13:11 |
PieterMC wrote:Oh God, do I dare?paulsmith2001 wrote: They are all pretty awful. Most of Roger Taylor's Solo records are weak (don't get me started on the cross) lyrics are full of dreadful rock cliches and as with the other members of the group, their solo releases are nothing compared to their collaborative efforts.Sorry, but Roger's solo efforts are great. The only other solo release that is better is Barcelona. Sorry Pieter, but Barcelona is horrid. In fact, ask any classical music lover to give it a spin, and they'll give it back after about 3 songs. If you want PROOF of that, take a look at Montserrat's work of art. Barcelona was an effort to gain some younger fans, but only that. She does not consider it a serious piece of work, as say her Marriage of Figaro release, and neither do her biographers. As for Roger's first two solos (which are the only ones I have), I keep thinking I need a new needle for my record player... then I realize I'm playing CDs!!! |
PieterMC 31.03.2008 13:20 |
Micrówave wrote:I really don't care what you or some classical music lovers think.PieterMC wrote:Oh God, do I dare? Sorry Pieter, but Barcelona is horrid. In fact, ask any classical music lover to give it a spin, and they'll give it back after about 3 songs. If you want PROOF of that, take a look at Montserrat's work of art. Barcelona was an effort to gain some younger fans, but only that. She does not consider it a serious piece of work, as say her Marriage of Figaro release, and neither do her biographers.paulsmith2001 wrote: They are all pretty awful. Most of Roger Taylor's Solo records are weak (don't get me started on the cross) lyrics are full of dreadful rock cliches and as with the other members of the group, their solo releases are nothing compared to their collaborative efforts.Sorry, but Roger's solo efforts are great. The only other solo release that is better is Barcelona. |
Dan C. 31.03.2008 14:07 |
Roger's solo albums are fucking great. |
The Real Wizard 31.03.2008 15:12 |
I think it's best to pick out single tracks from Roger's solo albums: No Violins Let's Get Crazy Man On Fire Strange Frontier Touch The Sky Foreign Sand (brilliant vocal performance - the best song he's ever written, in my opinion) Old Friends Pressure On A Nation Of Haircuts No More Fun As for The Cross, overall they were pretty derivative, and probably wouldn't have gotten any exposure had one of their members not been from Queen. Final Destination, New Dark Ages, and Life Changes are worth a listen, but that's about it. |
Mr Faron Hyte 31.03.2008 15:40 |
Pim Derks wrote: Roger Taylor: I love Fun In Space. Yes, it's quite a basic rockalbum, but I love the 'feel' of the album. I've posted this before - I wish they'd release a collectors edition of this album with the original album and a second disc of extras (demo's, outtakes etc). Side one of Strange Frontier is great, though a bit dated. Side two sucks, though I Cry For You has some nice bits. Happiness? Very laid back feel. Nice album to put on, though the tracks all sound the same (except Nazis & Foreign Sand). Recommended. Electric Fire - loved it when it came out in 1998 - nowadays I think it's a bit boring. Pressure On and Surrender are great - the rest is Roger Taylor on the auto-pilot. Still waaaaay better than Strange Frontier. 1 - Fun In Space 2 - Happiness 3 - Electric Fire 4 - Strange Frontier The Cross: Shove It. Sucks. Avoid at all costs, unless you're into cheesy 80's synthrock. Mad Bad. Mostly MOTR-80's rock, but with quite a few cool riffs/bits (Old Friends, Sister Blue, PG). Blue Rock. Recommended. Life Changes and New Dark Ages make it worth the price-tag alone.I'll just cut and paste the above because that's exactly how I feel about Roger's solo(ish) material. "Fun in Space" is a great album and my favorite Roger work outside of Queen. |
DavidRFuller 31.03.2008 15:54 |
I prefer Roger's solo stuff over Brian and Freddie's. I would have to say Shove It is my favorite. I'm not kidding. It's just....different, and most Queen fans just can't accept that. It's a little dated, but that is no excuse to call it crap. Fun In Space is probably my second favorite, Future Management is absolutely fucking brilliant. |
The Real Wizard 31.03.2008 16:20 |
gem27 wrote: All music sounds dated now that was made in the 80's.Generally, you're right, as 80s production tend to make that period of music sound more dated than a lot of 70s stuff. But here are a few exceptions that I feel still hold up today: Phil Collins - Face Value Genesis - Duke King Crimson - Discipline Marillion - Misplaced Childhood The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta Rush - Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense (the movie) Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden Pete Townshend - Empty Glass |
mystic_rhythms 31.03.2008 17:19 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Generally, you're right, as 80s production tend to make that period of music sound more dated than a lot of 70s stuff. But here are a few exceptions that I feel still hold up today: Rush - Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, SignalsI can't argue with that. You'd be surprised how Tom Sawyer doesn't really sound dated. In fact, I played in on a jukebox at a restaurant and one guy asked if it was Coheed & Cambria. (some people...lol) Anyways, about Roger's solo albums, I think Strange Frontier is pretty good. Then again, I have a thing for 80's music :p But Happiness would have to be his most solid album. It really gave him an identity in music after the untimely death of Freddie. -=Brian=- |
...assdude.... 39702 31.03.2008 18:19 |
well... To give you an idea. You have the Post Freedie death album, and then the pre- Freddie Death album. You can see the fiurst two album of Rogers clearly show him with all the attitude and balls and dare. The later of the two, give of a feeling about a man stripped of something. I dont mean the talent, i mean somnething from his life. More deeper album. Happiness is great album. Its not a upbeat album as such. As it does have a question to happines. But its Roger in a mature tone with his solo work. A good album with some great song. Electric fire.. well... the first few songs are good. There are some good stand allone songs. not as sincear as Happiness, but more of an alternaitive. Strange Frontier. An album of the times. Much more advanced than fun in space. Got some good tunes. You can hear some of the robot voic things from Radio Ga Ga in some of the songs. Yeah, a good album. Fun in space. His first outing... A few goos songs... nothign much other than that. |
The Real Wizard 01.04.2008 00:54 |
mystic_rhythms wrote: In fact, I played in on a jukebox at a restaurant and one guy asked if it was Coheed & Cambria. (some people...lol)Ha! Well, at least he was kind of with it. C&C aren't exactly a household name. Gotta love that stuff! |
mike hunt 01.04.2008 03:31 |
Micrówave wrote:Dare I say you don't know smack about music Mr. Hot space man. Barcelona is easily one of freddie's best work and easily blows away anything roger has ever done. Barcelona is one of the best albums I own, and that includes Queen.PieterMC wrote:Oh God, do I dare? Sorry Pieter, but Barcelona is horrid. In fact, ask any classical music lover to give it a spin, and they'll give it back after about 3 songs. If you want PROOF of that, take a look at Montserrat's work of art. Barcelona was an effort to gain some younger fans, but only that. She does not consider it a serious piece of work, as say her Marriage of Figaro release, and neither do her biographers. As for Roger's first two solos (which are the only ones I have), I keep thinking I need a new needle for my record player... then I realize I'm playing CDs!!!paulsmith2001 wrote: They are all pretty awful. Most of Roger Taylor's Solo records are weak (don't get me started on the cross) lyrics are full of dreadful rock cliches and as with the other members of the group, their solo releases are nothing compared to their collaborative efforts.Sorry, but Roger's solo efforts are great. The only other solo release that is better is Barcelona. |
Brandon 01.04.2008 10:12 |
PieterMC wrote:I pretty much agree with everything Peter said. <i>Barcelona</i> and Electric Fire are amazing and I love all of Roger's solo efforts. I also like all but Shove It from The Cross. (Seems to be a common thought.)Micrówave wrote:I really don't care what you or some classical music lovers think.PieterMC wrote:Oh God, do I dare? Sorry Pieter, but Barcelona is horrid. In fact, ask any classical music lover to give it a spin, and they'll give it back after about 3 songs. If you want PROOF of that, take a look at Montserrat's work of art. Barcelona was an effort to gain some younger fans, but only that. She does not consider it a serious piece of work, as say her Marriage of Figaro release, and neither do her biographers.paulsmith2001 wrote: They are all pretty awful. Most of Roger Taylor's Solo records are weak (don't get me started on the cross) lyrics are full of dreadful rock cliches and as with the other members of the group, their solo releases are nothing compared to their collaborative efforts.Sorry, but Roger's solo efforts are great. The only other solo release that is better is Barcelona. And, um, wasn't Barcelona a big selling album in the opera community? I'll have to look it up, but yeah, I'm pretty sure that you're wrong about "classical music lovers" think. |
Erin 01.04.2008 11:48 |
Brandon wrote: I pretty much agree with everything Peter said. <i>Barcelona</i> and Electric Fire are amazing and I love all of Roger's solo efforts. I also like all but Shove It from The Cross. (Seems to be a common thought.)Psssst....Brandon, you can't italicize on here. ;-) |
Erin 01.04.2008 11:48 |
whoopsie |
Erin 01.04.2008 11:48 |
My ratings for Roger's solo stuff using a scale from 1 - 5 stars: Fun In Space - **** Strange Frontier - **** Happiness? - ***** Electric Fire - ****1/2 Shove It - **1/2 Mad, Bad - **** Blue Rock - ***** (Barcelona - *********) Now...let's see if I can post this once....;-P |
Micrówave 01.04.2008 12:45 |
mike hunt wrote: Dare I say you don't know smack about music Mr. Hot space man. Barcelona is easily one of freddie's best work and easily blows away anything roger has ever done. Barcelona is one of the best albums I own, and that includes Queen.Well Mike, you just showed us all that it is YOU that 'don't know smack about music'. Barcelona is easily one of Freddie's best? I can think of about 15 albums he was on that were much better. (THAT'S ONE) Have you ever read anything about Montserrat? No. Probably because you can't read, but more importantly look at where SHE puts it in her works & accomplishments? (THAT'S TWO) Let's look at the musical path of one Mike Moran. How many successful operas or musical ventures has he done since? (THAT'S THREE) You're once, twice, three times an idiot, Mike. And you don't know dick about operas and classical music... WHICH IS WHAT BARCELONA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE!!! Who's the music retard? That would be you, Mr. Rock & Roll. |
Micrówave 01.04.2008 12:50 |
Brandon wrote: And, um, wasn't Barcelona a big selling album in the opera community? I'll have to look it up, but yeah, I'm pretty sure that you're wrong about "classical music lovers" think.It went Platinum in Switzerland and Silver in the UK. It did not achieve that Silver mark in ANY other country. No, that is not a big selling album. And think about it, at least HALF of the buyers were not in the "opera community". |
Micrówave 01.04.2008 12:52 |
PieterMC wrote: I really don't care what you or some classical music lovers think.I just lost five minutes of sleep caring about what you think MC-Pieter. (And I'm so glad I still bug you!!! Get over it, dork!) |
Erin 01.04.2008 13:32 |
Micrówave wrote: Get over it, dork!I think he's more of a geek than a dork. |
PieterMC 01.04.2008 13:42 |
Micrówave wrote:Bug me? Hardly. I think your ego must be getting the better of you.PieterMC wrote: I really don't care what you or some classical music lovers think.I just lost five minutes of sleep caring about what you think MC-Pieter. (And I'm so glad I still bug you!!! Get over it, dork!) |
gem27 01.04.2008 17:13 |
Anyway thanks all of you and thanks Pieter. I always respect your comments. |
shieldmatron 01.04.2008 20:15 |
I prefer Montserrat Caballé's performance of Liu in Turandot to anything she has done, including Barcelona. I'm an opera/classical music fan and I'm a Queen fan. Do I like Barcelona? Yes, but for what it is. An interesting foray into pop music by Caballé and opera by Freddie. I don't consider it opera, but I do enjoy it. But this is about Roger. I'd like to hear him try opera. ;) |
Brandon 02.04.2008 19:19 |
Micrówave wrote:Ummm, I think a lot of artists would love an album to move that many copies.Brandon wrote: And, um, wasn't Barcelona a big selling album in the opera community? I'll have to look it up, but yeah, I'm pretty sure that you're wrong about "classical music lovers" think.It went Platinum in Switzerland and Silver in the UK. It did not achieve that Silver mark in ANY other country. No, that is not a big selling album. And think about it, at least HALF of the buyers were not in the "opera community". But, in any case, you are obviously a lot more knowledgeable on what my opinion should be than I. And besides, I meant it was one of the best selling opera/ classical albums in 88. |
Brandon 02.04.2008 19:29 |
And, to give my two cents about solo albums... 1)Electric Fire 1)Barcelona 3)Happiness 4)Strange Frontier 5)Fun In Space 6)Back To The Light 7)Blue Rock 8)Another World 9)Mad, Bad and Dangerous To Know 10)The Great Pretender 11)Furia 12)Mr. Bad guy 13)Shove It Of course, Fred's boxset is tops! |
mike hunt 03.04.2008 01:37 |
Micrówave wrote:I am Mr. rock and roll, and also love a lot classical/opera stuff, Jazz, the blues. I don't care what some classical snob has to say. I know good music when I hear it. Why is cabelle always on the tv telling her story about her and freddie?...she's proud of the work they did together. Barcelona wasn't suppose to be an all out opera album, it's suppose to be a mixure of pop and opera. Classical snobs like yourself will always put down singer's like sarah brightman, and albums like barcelona. That's nothing new or original. Snobs like you make me sickmike hunt wrote: Dare I say you don't know smack about music Mr. Hot space man. Barcelona is easily one of freddie's best work and easily blows away anything roger has ever done. Barcelona is one of the best albums I own, and that includes Queen.Well Mike, you just showed us all that it is YOU that 'don't know smack about music'. Barcelona is easily one of Freddie's best? I can think of about 15 albums he was on that were much better. (THAT'S ONE) Have you ever read anything about Montserrat? No. Probably because you can't read, but more importantly look at where SHE puts it in her works & accomplishments? (THAT'S TWO) Let's look at the musical path of one Mike Moran. How many successful operas or musical ventures has he done since? (THAT'S THREE) You're once, twice, three times an idiot, Mike. And you don't know dick about operas and classical music... WHICH IS WHAT BARCELONA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE!!! Who's the music retard? That would be you, Mr. Rock & Roll. |