redspecialusa 21.03.2008 06:26 |
I can understand the trip to Russia, and the return to Latin America...but what about the States? Not a word has been said about that. Fucking Jim Beach and Hollywood Records better step up and get Queen the right amount of promotional work done here in the U.S. |
Jeroen 21.03.2008 06:33 |
redspecialusa wrote: Fucking Jim Beach and Hollywood Records better step up and get Queen the right amount of promotional work done here in the U.S.Ah, yes, another cheap-ass greatest hits-album. Just what we need! |
redspecialusa 21.03.2008 06:45 |
Hahaha....well I was thinking more along the lines of interviews, public appearances, and advertising in magazines. I agree the compilation albums were old; last year! |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 21.03.2008 08:43 |
Oh, you meant NORTH America. Dunno. Cheers, Ogre- |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 09:47 |
redspecialusa wrote: I can understand the trip to Russia, and the return to Latin America...but what about the States? Not a word has been said about that. Fucking Jim Beach and Hollywood Records better step up and get Queen the right amount of promotional work done here in the U.S.Email Brian and tell him you want them to come back. |
Mr Faron Hyte 21.03.2008 10:47 |
I fully anticipate a spring '09 North American tour. link "Hollywood Records will release the new album in North America, with a date to be announced. Additionally, tour dates for the United States and Canada are still in the works, according to a label spokesperson." |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 11:09 |
I am sure that the album will be out September 2nd. |
Legy 21.03.2008 12:43 |
I wrote the following on two other post. "Paul Rodgers did a radio interview with a radio station here in Houston a few weeks ago. He mentioned that tour dates for a "World Tour" would be released in the middle of March. It's obvious other tour dates have not been finalized. So we're just going to have to be a little patient. I'm pretty sure they want to be with their families for the holidays. So, if the do come across the pond, it might be next year. Also, I know they're going to be touring South America, so they might add a few shows here in the States before or after they visit South America. We're just going to have to play the waiting game. " |
KingMercury 21.03.2008 16:48 |
US ignored queen along the 80's and 90's USA doesnt deserve a queen tour again, after the few "sold out" concerts in 05/06 there are a lot of countries (argentina and brasil, for example) who were waiting the band since the 80's, and they never ignored queen its time for other countries to enjoy the queen music we already have enough indifference from usa to queen |
Legy 21.03.2008 17:21 |
The US ignored Queen + Paul Rodgers due to poor promotions. My friends in Florida and Georgia didn't even know they were going to be in town until the day of the concert. And, Queen are not the only rock bands that can't sellout arenas. KISS and Aerosmith have had problems selling out venues in the past five years. |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 17:47 |
KingMercury wrote: US ignored queen along the 80's and 90's USA doesnt deserve a queen tour again, after the few "sold out" concerts in 05/06 there are a lot of countries (argentina and brasil, for example) who were waiting the band since the 80's, and they never ignored queen its time for other countries to enjoy the queen music we already have enough indifference from usa to queenI think you will find that it was Queen who gave up on the USA, especially Freddie. |
jeffuk49 21.03.2008 17:49 |
u dont deserve it |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 17:50 |
artemismoon wrote: The US ignored Queen + Paul Rodgers due to poor promotions. My friends in Florida and Georgia didn't even know they were going to be in town until the day of the concert. And, Queen are not the only rock bands that can't sellout arenas. KISS and Aerosmith have had problems selling out venues in the past five years.and KISS are huge in America compared to Queen. Ticket prices are a HUGE reason for this problem. |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 17:51 |
jeffuk49 wrote: u dont deserve itI am not even American. Please explain. |
jeffuk49 21.03.2008 17:53 |
not intrested in the 80s why have the fun now |
Erin 21.03.2008 17:53 |
jeffuk49 wrote: u dont deserve itI deserve to see them just as much as anyone else. |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 17:55 |
jeffuk49 wrote: not intrested in the 80s why have the fun nowI think you will find that Freddie did not want to tour the USA again until he felt they had the right album. Who gave up on whom ??? |
una999 21.03.2008 18:30 |
redspecialusa wrote: I can understand the trip to Russia, and the return to Latin America...but what about the States? Not a word has been said about that. Fucking Jim Beach and Hollywood Records better step up and get Queen the right amount of promotional work done here in the U.S.Yes, who did give up on the USA. Um...Freddie or the USA...think they'd have come back around 92 with the popularity of Bo Rhap. Well who knows, anything could have happened if freddie wasn't ill, they might have even split up |
Maz 21.03.2008 19:18 |
I'm sure we all remember that back in 2005, QPR announced their US tour at the same time as the Eurpoean tour. Oh, wait a minute |
Serry... 21.03.2008 19:21 |
KingMercury wrote: US ignored queen along the 80's and 90'sAgree. Queen still is very popular in dozens of countries there they have never performed. Lack of shows in the States is weak vicious flimsy overstrained argument. If QPR shows won't happen in Moscow - I won't burn my Queen collection in that case and it won't kill their popularity over here. |
Mr Faron Hyte 21.03.2008 20:30 |
KingMercury wrote: US ignored queen along the 80's and 90's USA doesnt deserve a queen tour again, after the few "sold out" concerts in 05/06That's so retarded, in addition to be ridiculously reductionist and simplistic. So audiences of today must pay the price for the assumed sins of an anonymous record buying public of 25 years ago? You must be Catholic. there are a lot of countries (argentina and brasil, for example) who were waiting the band since the 80's, and they never ignored queenBoo hoo. Here's an idea - if you want to see them so badly, and you feel so cheated and deprived, why not do what a lot of us did in 2005 and 2006, spend some damn money, and go see the band. I saw them in Aruba in October 2005 and there were MANY perfectly delightful people from Argentina and Brasil at the show having the time of their lives. Why weren't you there? Especially if you're such a fan. Put your money where your mouth is. its time for other countries to enjoy the queen music we already have enough indifference from usa to queenYeah, I might remember that when I see the band in the States 2 or 3 times next year, because the simple arithmatic is that there's money to be made here and thus they will return, as horribly unfair as you may think that is. Meanwhile, enjoy your sour grapes. |
Legy 21.03.2008 20:36 |
KISS are more popular in America than Queen. As much as I don't like their music, I have to admit they do have a HUGE following here in the States. So, there is an issue with ticket prices being so damn expensive. And, there is a issue with their US promoter. As for the US giving up on Queen, you guys need to do your research. AKOM didn't do too well States side (FYI, I don't own the album), but the Miracle did break the top 40 and IWIA did break the top 10 making it to #3 on Billboard's Mainstream Rock Singles chart. We were just waiting on a good album. They could have toured the US in 89/90 if Freddie had been well enough to tour. I remember there was a lot of Queen buzz around that time. And, Paul Rodgers is a popular artist here in the States, so I am certain they will tour the US. It won't be til next year, but it will happen |
KingMercury 21.03.2008 21:59 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote:JAJAJAJJAKingMercury wrote: US ignored queen along the 80's and 90's USA doesnt deserve a queen tour again, after the few "sold out" concerts in 05/06That's so retarded, in addition to be ridiculously reductionist and simplistic. So audiences of today must pay the price for the assumed sins of an anonymous record buying public of 25 years ago? You must be Catholic.there are a lot of countries (argentina and brasil, for example) who were waiting the band since the 80's, and they never ignored queenBoo hoo. Here's an idea - if you want to see them so badly, and you feel so cheated and deprived, why not do what a lot of us did in 2005 and 2006, spend some damn money, and go see the band. I saw them in Aruba in October 2005 and there were MANY perfectly delightful people from Argentina and Brasil at the show having the time of their lives. Why weren't you there? Especially if you're such a fan. Put your money where your mouth is.its time for other countries to enjoy the queen music we already have enough indifference from usa to queenYeah, I might remember that when I see the band in the States 2 or 3 times next year, because the simple arithmatic is that there's money to be made here and thus they will return, as horribly unfair as you may think that is. Meanwhile, enjoy your sour grapes. yes you might be one of the tons of idiots who take pictures of himself while the band was playing emmm and just for the record did you see how many people went to the Q+PR shows???? didnt you see how empty the arenas were??? thats because, you americans, prefer a huge show, than great music just take a look to kiss (i like kiss) but, when the guys did not take makeup, all of you said "heyyy, where is the makeup??? just put the makeup on your face again!!!!" you just didnt listen to his music, you just wanted the makeup on his faces again and, for your knowledge, i didnt went to USA to see a Q+PR show, because i didnt want to be beside people who doesnt care about the queen music, and keep on sayin along the show "this is not queen, freddie sang better than rodgers" most of you are just ignorants britney spears play at an arena, and that place is full of people queen+paul rodgers play at an arena, and the place is empty could you explain me that? you are a bunch of clowns... and, if you dont believe me, just wait until the band anounces the US dates and venues you will see: that will be smaller than the last time well, thats it bye and keep listening britney (i guess that's your heroin) |
PieterMC 21.03.2008 22:32 |
KingMercury wrote: JAJAJAJJA yes you might be one of the tons of idiots who take pictures of himself while the band was playing emmm and just for the record did you see how many people went to the Q+PR shows???? didnt you see how empty the arenas were??? thats because, you americans, prefer a huge show, than great music just take a look to kiss (i like kiss) but, when the guys did not take makeup, all of you said "heyyy, where is the makeup??? just put the makeup on your face again!!!!" you just didnt listen to his music, you just wanted the makeup on his faces again and, for your knowledge, i didnt went to USA to see a Q+PR show, because i didnt want to be beside people who doesnt care about the queen music, and keep on sayin along the show "this is not queen, freddie sang better than rodgers" most of you are just ignorants britney spears play at an arena, and that place is full of people queen+paul rodgers play at an arena, and the place is empty could you explain me that? you are a bunch of clowns... and, if you dont believe me, just wait until the band anounces the US dates and venues you will see: that will be smaller than the last time well, thats it bye and keep listening britney (i guess that's your heroin)This is honestly one of the most idiotic and stupid posts that I have seen here in a long time. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
Mr Faron Hyte 21.03.2008 22:58 |
PieterMC wrote:Thanks for saving me the trouble. I'll be curious to see if he tries to edit that post when he sobers up.KingMercury wrote: JAJAJAJJA yes you might be one of the tons of idiots who take pictures of himself while the band was playing emmm and just for the record did you see how many people went to the Q+PR shows???? didnt you see how empty the arenas were??? thats because, you americans, prefer a huge show, than great music just take a look to kiss (i like kiss) but, when the guys did not take makeup, all of you said "heyyy, where is the makeup??? just put the makeup on your face again!!!!" you just didnt listen to his music, you just wanted the makeup on his faces again and, for your knowledge, i didnt went to USA to see a Q+PR show, because i didnt want to be beside people who doesnt care about the queen music, and keep on sayin along the show "this is not queen, freddie sang better than rodgers" most of you are just ignorants britney spears play at an arena, and that place is full of people queen+paul rodgers play at an arena, and the place is empty could you explain me that? you are a bunch of clowns... and, if you dont believe me, just wait until the band anounces the US dates and venues you will see: that will be smaller than the last time well, thats it bye and keep listening britney (i guess that's your heroin)This is honestly one of the most idiotic and stupid posts that I have seen here in a long time. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
Lisser 22.03.2008 11:14 |
PieterMC wrote:I completely agree Pieter.KingMercury wrote: JAJAJAJJA yes you might be one of the tons of idiots who take pictures of himself while the band was playing emmm and just for the record did you see how many people went to the Q+PR shows???? didnt you see how empty the arenas were??? thats because, you americans, prefer a huge show, than great music just take a look to kiss (i like kiss) but, when the guys did not take makeup, all of you said "heyyy, where is the makeup??? just put the makeup on your face again!!!!" you just didnt listen to his music, you just wanted the makeup on his faces again and, for your knowledge, i didnt went to USA to see a Q+PR show, because i didnt want to be beside people who doesnt care about the queen music, and keep on sayin along the show "this is not queen, freddie sang better than rodgers" most of you are just ignorants britney spears play at an arena, and that place is full of people queen+paul rodgers play at an arena, and the place is empty could you explain me that? you are a bunch of clowns... and, if you dont believe me, just wait until the band anounces the US dates and venues you will see: that will be smaller than the last time well, thats it bye and keep listening britney (i guess that's your heroin)This is honestly one of the most idiotic and stupid posts that I have seen here in a long time. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
teleman 22.03.2008 12:52 |
The 2 shows I attended on the North American leg of their tour were full. A little promotion might have helped with ticket sales.
PieterMC wrote:I agree with the above postKingMercury wrote: JAJAJAJJA yes you might be one of the tons of idiots who take pictures of himself while the band was playing emmm and just for the record did you see how many people went to the Q+PR shows???? didnt you see how empty the arenas were??? thats because, you americans, prefer a huge show, than great music just take a look to kiss (i like kiss) but, when the guys did not take makeup, all of you said "heyyy, where is the makeup??? just put the makeup on your face again!!!!" you just didnt listen to his music, you just wanted the makeup on his faces again and, for your knowledge, i didnt went to USA to see a Q+PR show, because i didnt want to be beside people who doesnt care about the queen music, and keep on sayin along the show "this is not queen, freddie sang better than rodgers" most of you are just ignorants britney spears play at an arena, and that place is full of people queen+paul rodgers play at an arena, and the place is empty could you explain me that? you are a bunch of clowns... and, if you dont believe me, just wait until the band anounces the US dates and venues you will see: that will be smaller than the last time well, thats it bye and keep listening britney (i guess that's your heroin)This is honestly one of the most idiotic and stupid posts that I have seen here in a long time. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
PieterMC 22.03.2008 17:07 |
Everybody who jumps on the North American tour bashing train fail to realize that the problem of ticket sales is not just isolated to the Queen + Paul Rodgers tour. I doubt there are many bands that tour the USA that manage to sell out every date on their tour, or even close to every date. To me, the single biggest problem in the US is ticket prices. You are lucky if you can go see a concert these days for under $70 a ticket, and if you want to get good seats you are going to pay more than that. Look at how much tickets were in many areas for the QPR tour - $200. That is just insane. It's a miracle that they sold any tickets at that price, considering that they have not toured here in so many years, and that Freddie was not there. |
Mr Faron Hyte 22.03.2008 18:19 |
PieterMC wrote: Look at how much tickets were in many areas for the QPR tour - $200. That is just insane. It's a miracle that they sold any tickets at that price, considering that they have not toured here in so many years, and that Freddie was not there.Hmmmmmm ... one could therefore argue that a willingness to pay such extortionate ticket prices is an indication of how loyal the North American audience is and how they love Queen just all to pieces. *eyelash flutters* |
Legy 22.03.2008 18:32 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote:EXAAACTLY!PieterMC wrote: Look at how much tickets were in many areas for the QPR tour - $200. That is just insane. It's a miracle that they sold any tickets at that price, considering that they have not toured here in so many years, and that Freddie was not there.Hmmmmmm ... one could therefore argue that a willingness to pay such extortionate ticket prices is an indication of how loyal the North American audience is and how they love Queen just all to pieces. *eyelash flutters* |
KingMercury 22.03.2008 18:54 |
PieterMC wrote:shut up you fuckin mouth!!!KingMercury wrote: JAJAJAJJA yes you might be one of the tons of idiots who take pictures of himself while the band was playing emmm and just for the record did you see how many people went to the Q+PR shows???? didnt you see how empty the arenas were??? thats because, you americans, prefer a huge show, than great music just take a look to kiss (i like kiss) but, when the guys did not take makeup, all of you said "heyyy, where is the makeup??? just put the makeup on your face again!!!!" you just didnt listen to his music, you just wanted the makeup on his faces again and, for your knowledge, i didnt went to USA to see a Q+PR show, because i didnt want to be beside people who doesnt care about the queen music, and keep on sayin along the show "this is not queen, freddie sang better than rodgers" most of you are just ignorants britney spears play at an arena, and that place is full of people queen+paul rodgers play at an arena, and the place is empty could you explain me that? you are a bunch of clowns... and, if you dont believe me, just wait until the band anounces the US dates and venues you will see: that will be smaller than the last time well, thats it bye and keep listening britney (i guess that's your heroin)This is honestly one of the most idiotic and stupid posts that I have seen here in a long time. You have no idea what you are talking about. and keep invading por countries jaja |
PieterMC 22.03.2008 19:58 |
I will go slowly so you can understand. 1. I have never invaded a poor country or any other country for that matter. 2. I am not American. |
Legy 22.03.2008 21:04 |
LOL! |
redspecialusa 23.03.2008 01:57 |
King Mercury, all due respect you are a fool. I saw them in Washington D.C. in April of '06 and it was one of their 'sold out' shows. They packed the house. I agree with what has been said regarding poor press and promotion of the tour. Had that been different; I believe the tour would've been vastly more successful. After thinking about it; they didn't announce tour dates until they were practically done with the European Tour. This time around; with the album and all. I think they'll be a lot more successful. They will be back...and America DOES deserve Queen & Paul Rodgers. |
Serry... 23.03.2008 04:16 |
"To me, the single biggest problem in the US is ticket prices." So what? No, really? Queen fans from Ukraine and Belarus are gonna travel to Moscow to see QPR: such travel costs no less than USD 200-250 and tickes no less than USD 100 (and you gotta be a lucky dog to find ticket for $100!) and we're talking about people from countries where salaries are well below than in the States. USA is one the biggest and most important markets and QPR must tour over there, but those eternal chatters about "they weren't perform in the 80s here!", "they were in the drags in video!", "no promotion!", "tickets prices!" are perpetual nagging, growing fastidious and nothing more, IMO. |
NickName 23.03.2008 09:25 |
PieterMC wrote:"Old-Capitalism" sucks... BIG... interest yields way down below 30%!!!artemismoon wrote: The US ignored Queen + Paul Rodgers due to poor promotions. My friends in Florida and Georgia didn't even know they were going to be in town until the day of the concert. And, Queen are not the only rock bands that can't sellout arenas. KISS and Aerosmith have had problems selling out venues in the past five years.and KISS are huge in America compared to Queen. Ticket prices are a HUGE reason for this problem. Two consecutive concerts in Moscow? I guess Russia is the place to make big bucks in the future... Soooo many new billionaires just like Serry living there, not knowing how to spend their hard earned money... ;-) PS: ...the first billion is always the hardest to earn... better go & ask Serry! ;-))) |
Serry... 23.03.2008 10:20 |
Hard to spend, Frank, hard to spend! ;) |
NickName 23.03.2008 10:24 |
Serry... wrote: Hard to spend, Frank, hard to spend! ;)Hard to earn... even harder to spend! :-) C´mon Serry, just go and buy yourself and the girl of your choice (or the girl of your heart) ALL those bloody Moscow tickets... both nights of course! Indulge yourself something every now and then... But hurry up... before Michail Chodorkowski buys them all. I heard he´s a big Queen fan too... his favourite song is said to be "I want to break free"!?! :-))) PS: By the way, Chelsea London was sold to Roman just yesterday. I´m so sorry for you and your investment advisors Serry, but in this case... you´re a little bit too late! PPS: Anyway... just bought all tix for their Zurich concert... just in case! So you and the partner of your choice are always welcome to come along... |
Lisser 23.03.2008 12:32 |
I paid $200/each for my Jacksonville tickets. I can't remember what the cost of the tickets were for the NJ concert. Of course I thought the price was too expensive, I'd rather have gone for free ;) But I pay it because I want to see the concert. If I really believed it was too expensive, I would not have paid and would not have gone. I'll pay what I want to pay if I want to go. All in all, after you see the show and experience being that close to your favorite band's members, hearing the music, it is worth every single penny. No complaints here. I can't wait to see them again!!!! |
Serry... 23.03.2008 12:39 |
NickName wrote: But hurry up... before Michail Chodorkowski buys them all. I heard he´s a big Queen fan too... his favourite song is said to be "I want to break free"!?! :-)))On the recent Russian Queen Fan Club convention his cover band played medley of "Stealin'", "I want it all" and "Jailhouse rock" actually. P.S. I'll be in Zurich in August, need to find some kind persons in ABB Group. |
PieterMC 23.03.2008 12:47 |
Serry... wrote: "To me, the single biggest problem in the US is ticket prices." So what? No, really? Queen fans from Ukraine and Belarus are gonna travel to Moscow to see QPR: such travel costs no less than USD 200-250 and tickes no less than USD 100 (and you gotta be a lucky dog to find ticket for $100!) and we're talking about people from countries where salaries are well below than in the States. USA is one the biggest and most important markets and QPR must tour over there, but those eternal chatters about "they weren't perform in the 80s here!", "they were in the drags in video!", "no promotion!", "tickets prices!" are perpetual nagging, growing fastidious and nothing more, IMO.Sorry, but ticket prices are a big deal. Your average person is not going to shell out that kind of money. Somebody at my work said he would like to see Queen + Paul Rodgers, but he would not pay that sort of money. I know that I would not pay $200 for a band that I was not a die hard fan for. Promotion is also a big deal in the US. There are SO many concerts that you have to promote things. |
Mr Faron Hyte 23.03.2008 13:31 |
PieterMC wrote: I will go slowly so you can understand. 1. I have never invaded a poor country or any other country for that matter. 2. I am not American.JAJAJAJAJAJAJA |
Serry... 23.03.2008 14:12 |
"Sorry, but ticket prices are a big deal." "Promotion is also a big deal in the US." Then there's no place for questions "why" and "when". Terms and conditions are usually equal for Europe, Oz, South America, but when it comes to the States... Special price, special promotion, special this, special that. Too much business attitude from the fans side (about prices) causes the business attitude from the band's side (too much of those "specials", but in the end half-empty venues - that's wrong way for the business). I share Lisser's point here. |
PieterMC 23.03.2008 21:18 |
Serry... wrote: "Sorry, but ticket prices are a big deal." "Promotion is also a big deal in the US." Then there's no place for questions "why" and "when". Terms and conditions are usually equal for Europe, Oz, South America, but when it comes to the States... Special price, special promotion, special this, special that. Too much business attitude from the fans side (about prices) causes the business attitude from the band's side (too much of those "specials", but in the end half-empty venues - that's wrong way for the business). I share Lisser's point here.It's not a case if special anything. It's just a sad reflection of the sad state of concerts in the US. Believe me I know what concerts are like in Europe.... I am from Scotland. It is just a totally different climate in the US when it comes to going to concerts. |
Legy 24.03.2008 10:38 |
I can say this much, I went to a few concerts last year and attendance in general is down from 2006. I saw the Police, 311 and Stevie Nicks. Out of those three concerts, no one had a sold out show. The official word was the Police was a sold out concert, but I sure did see a lot of empty seats. And they haven't toured in years! There are many factors on why people aren't going to concerts. One is the current state of the US economy. When you think about it, people can't even afford to go on vacation (holiday for those in Europe) let alone go to concerts. Same thing with sports, it's too expensive for most families to afford. The UK Pound and the Euro has more value than the American dollar. Heck, the Canadian dollar has more value than the American dollar. So things aren't too peachy across the Pond. Another is Ticket Scalpers. They basically buy a lot of tickets and then sell them at double, triple or quadruple the price. So you average $200 ticket can go for $400 - $800! I saw a lot of Police tickets go for up to $800. So, who can afford an $800 ticket? Not your average American. |
PieterMC 24.03.2008 10:52 |
Getting a good seat at a concert over here is like a crap shoot. You need luck, and more often you need money. It's not like Europe where I can buy a general admission ticket and go and stand outside the venue for 8 hours to get up at the front. I am sure that there are shows that technically sell out, however all the empty seats indicate to me touts who bought tickets and were unable to get rid of them before the show. |
Legy 24.03.2008 11:16 |
PieterMC wrote: Getting a good seat at a concert over here is like a crap shoot. You need luck, and more often you need money. It's not like Europe where I can buy a general admission ticket and go and stand outside the venue for 8 hours to get up at the front. I am sure that there are shows that technically sell out, however all the empty seats indicate to me touts who bought tickets and were unable to get rid of them before the show.Quite rightly! |
Lisser 24.03.2008 11:42 |
I would never, no matter how much I loved the band, stand outside for 8 hours to get a good seat or place by the stage. Maybe when I was a teenager or a young adult, but no way now. :) I'm too old. I'd rather let my money speak for me to get me my good seat. I know that works in Europe though and people seem to love it! I guess it's similar to tailgating? |
Erin 24.03.2008 11:59 |
Lisser wrote: I'd rather let my money speak for me to get me my good seat.I would too, if it was the regular ticket price from Ticketmaster. I wouldn't pay $800+ from a scalper to get a close seat, though. Is anyone else sick of the way Ticketmaster will hold the very best seats till a couple of days before a show? You have to be persistant and a bit lucky to be online when those seats are released. It's almost too much hassle than it's worth, unless you really love the band that's playing. Maybe I'm too picky, but I'm never happy with nosebleed seats. |
Lisser 24.03.2008 13:24 |
I'm with you Erin and no I would NOT pay that much for a ticket. What I usually do is wait until the day before the show and then they release good seats that haven't been taken by VIPs or whatever. I've been pretty darn lucky that way. |
Legy 24.03.2008 14:35 |
It's all about luck, if you're waiting til the last minute. I don't know why Ticketmaster does that, but they do. |
Dan C. 24.03.2008 20:25 |
Stupid Americans... What makes them think they have the right to see a concert!? |
Erin 24.03.2008 21:08 |
^^LOL |
Legy 24.03.2008 21:50 |
LOL! It's our God given right as Americans I tellz ya! LOL! |
iron eagle 24.03.2008 21:55 |
i think they should just cancel the tour completely and do a online show so everyone can sit at their computer and watch it....... if they come to the states(and they will) they can not rest on their laurels from long ago--- the attention span is not that long around here-- they will have to promote it-- most of the promotion last time came at the end of the tour... wtf???? ok a few minute 'interviews' in between-- i esp. liked the Roger one where he said the show would be choked full of songs from the 70's.... errrrrr ok...... they want packed houses or a top album on the charts? better work for it....tv shows raido interviews whatever they can to get themselves out there and visible...otherwise medicore at best is the result.... so come on boys head back to gwinnett...... i know some zoners that will oh so be there..... |
Mr Faron Hyte 24.03.2008 22:11 |
iron eagle wrote: they want packed houses or a top album on the charts? better work for it....tv shows raido interviews whatever they can to get themselves out there and visible...otherwise medicore at best is the result....That's why Robbie Williams never broke big in North America - couldn't be bothered to do all the touring and promotion. |
Erin 24.03.2008 22:19 |
iron eagle wrote: so come on boys head back to gwinnett...... i know some zoners that will oh so be there.....Ooh..me, me, me!!! :-)) I can't see them doing proper promotion, but they will HAVE to if they expect to sell any albums at all here. |
iron eagle 24.03.2008 22:49 |
what bugs me is for the most part they never did anything half assed why start now they KNOW better |
Tero 25.03.2008 00:45 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote:To be honest, he didn't miss out on that much.iron eagle wrote: they want packed houses or a top album on the charts? better work for it....tv shows raido interviews whatever they can to get themselves out there and visible...otherwise medicore at best is the result....That's why Robbie Williams never broke big in North America - couldn't be bothered to do all the touring and promotion. And If I had a choice of either working a couple of months in Europe every few years, or doing six months of touring in the USA just to break it, I wouldn't bother either. |
Lisser 25.03.2008 02:34 |
It does have to be very hard on them to come to America at their age, not that they are elderly or anything, but not spring chickens anymore, and cover vast areas. No matter what they do they are never going to be able to get to every corner of America and please everyone. The same with other countries, they simply can't be every where. Just as I was before, I'm grateful for any chance I'll get to see them. If I can make it to a concert or two then I will most definitely be there. I do agree with spending some money and time on promotion though if they are coming here. Not every Queen fan visits brianmay.com, QZ, or Queenonline. Crap it's possible a lot of their fans that saw them in the 70s or 80s may not even have internet!! Shocking I know but it's entirely possible that there are some households that don't have internet. I agree with Paulie, if you are going to tour, anywhere, promote, advertise, and get your name in lights. It can't possibly hurt and it is definitely the Queen way! |
PieterMC 25.03.2008 08:07 |
Tero wrote:So nobody should tour America?Mr Faron Hyte wrote:To be honest, he didn't miss out on that much. And If I had a choice of either working a couple of months in Europe every few years, or doing six months of touring in the USA just to break it, I wouldn't bother either.iron eagle wrote: they want packed houses or a top album on the charts? better work for it....tv shows raido interviews whatever they can to get themselves out there and visible...otherwise medicore at best is the result....That's why Robbie Williams never broke big in North America - couldn't be bothered to do all the touring and promotion. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 25.03.2008 08:33 |
PieterMC wrote:Well, they ARE touring America. I will certainly go and see them in several concerts all over South America. &:^)~Tero wrote:So nobody should tour America?Mr Faron Hyte wrote:To be honest, he didn't miss out on that much. And If I had a choice of either working a couple of months in Europe every few years, or doing six months of touring in the USA just to break it, I wouldn't bother either.iron eagle wrote: they want packed houses or a top album on the charts? better work for it....tv shows raido interviews whatever they can to get themselves out there and visible...otherwise medicore at best is the result....That's why Robbie Williams never broke big in North America - couldn't be bothered to do all the touring and promotion. Now, look, as for YOUR part of America, I can't even imagine them not going. Of course they are touring North America, if not a dozen of gigs, at least some of them. I can't even understand the reasons that make you think they aren't. Cheers, Ogrito ;) |
Erin 25.03.2008 09:26 |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I can't even understand the reasons that make you think they aren't.Who thinks they aren't? |
PieterMC 25.03.2008 09:44 |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I can't even understand the reasons that make you think they aren't.I never said I thought they would not tour in North America. In fact I have said all along that I am sure they will play here. |
Tero 25.03.2008 11:15 |
PieterMC wrote:Plenty of American artists seem to tour America. ;)Tero wrote:So nobody should tour America?Mr Faron Hyte wrote:To be honest, he didn't miss out on that much. And If I had a choice of either working a couple of months in Europe every few years, or doing six months of touring in the USA just to break it, I wouldn't bother either.iron eagle wrote: they want packed houses or a top album on the charts? better work for it....tv shows raido interviews whatever they can to get themselves out there and visible...otherwise medicore at best is the result....That's why Robbie Williams never broke big in North America - couldn't be bothered to do all the touring and promotion. There's a reason why the Dave Matthews Band tours the USA, and Robbie Williams tours Europe. If an artist has the possibility to play a familiar territory for more money and less effort, it really is a no-brainer. The same principle also explains why bands like QPR only play certain markets in the USA... It just isn't worth the trouble to do 50 theatre shows over three months if you can get the same audience (and money) by doing five arena concerts in the major markets. |
PieterMC 25.03.2008 12:19 |
Tero wrote: There's a reason why the Dave Matthews Band tours the USAI wish I could understand what people see in him. I don't get it... at all... I don't know anybody who likes him. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 25.03.2008 16:38 |
PieterMC wrote:Pieter and Erin: By "you" I meant some of the above posters, which I thought included Pieter as well. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Good luck as for the tour in North America!Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I can't even understand the reasons that make you think they aren't.I never said I thought they would not tour in North America. In fact I have said all along that I am sure they will play here. Cheers, Ogre- |
Mr Faron Hyte 25.03.2008 18:57 |
iron eagle wrote: what bugs me is for the most part they never did anything half assed why start now they KNOW betterWhy start half-assing now? I think Lisser said it - they're OLD now. Or at least a lot older than they were in 1982. They're hovering near 60, they have lives outside of music, and they're not either willing or able to commit the same time and energy they might have when they were 30 or even 40. Makes sense to me. |
Mr Faron Hyte 25.03.2008 19:01 |
PieterMC wrote:I understand how much one enjoys Dave Matthews is directly proportionate to how much marijuana one has consumed.Tero wrote: There's a reason why the Dave Matthews Band tours the USAI wish I could understand what people see in him. I don't get it... at all... I don't know anybody who likes him. And as Queen fans, we all know its fun to smoke marijuana, subliminally or otherwise. |
Micrówave 25.03.2008 19:07 |
Maybe it's me. Or do I need to explain to Non-US music buyers that if you can't sell albums in the US, you might as well just give it up. Thats what the industry measures it by, not me. So don't get mad at America and use some BS excuse. Move here. Get the benefits. Otherwise, Sorry Argentina... Nobody cares what records get sold in your country. Not even Brian. Take David Hasselhoff, for example. He's got more money that you could ever imagine... not just from the Baywatch gig, but from his music career. But is he considered "Big Time"? Like a Madonna or a Michael? No. Not even close. Even though, he's sold a lot of records in Germany, it doesn't matter. Dig? |
iron eagle 25.03.2008 19:32 |
to a point perhaps its age but most of it is the machine thinking it can still ride on the coat tails... now to another one of your comments *LOL* why i never never never smoked pot at any Queen concert....or ludes....or drank...or various white powders.... i am shocked you would think something like that would happen at any concert nevermind a Queen one..... *sheepish innocent grin* didnt in gwinett either....took a immodium ad supplied by a zoner instead... *LMAO* |
redspecialusa 25.03.2008 22:36 |
Tero, All due respect you're an idiot. I've been up and down the East Coast of the United States, and weather you are willing to believe it or not...there is quite a market for Queen to come here and do what they do best. The only obstacle is weather Hollywood Records, & Jim Beach will actually make the effort to capitalize on this market...especially with the new album in the pipeline; whilst avoiding another damned compilation album (a.k.a.- recycling greatest hits). I believe Queen can make up for lost time and ground if they orchestrate everything just right; and "if" it is done right they will be as huge here as they are in the rest of the world. |
Lisser 25.03.2008 22:48 |
redspecialusa wrote: Tero, All due respect you're an idiot. I've been up and down the East Coast of the United States, and weather you are willing to believe it or not...there is quite a market for Queen to come here and do what they do best. The only obstacle is weather Hollywood Records, & Jim Beach will actually make the effort to capitalize on this market...especially with the new album in the pipeline; whilst avoiding another damned compilation album (a.k.a.- recycling greatest hits). I believe Queen can make up for lost time and ground if they orchestrate everything just right; and "if" it is done right they will be as huge here as they are in the rest of the world.All due respect, the correct form of the word is whether, not weather. |
Erin 25.03.2008 22:52 |
iron eagle wrote: didnt in gwinett either....took a immodium ad supplied by a zoner instead... *LMAO*Better to be safe than sorry...;-D |
Mr Faron Hyte 25.03.2008 23:54 |
redspecialusa wrote: The only obstacle is weather Hollywood Records, & Jim Beach will actually make the effort to capitalize on this market...especially with the new album in the pipeline; whilst avoiding another damned compilation album (a.k.a.- recycling greatest hits).This isn't directed at the original poster but more an opportunity to raise an issue I've been meaning to - I've seen several people remark on how great it will be that they'll be able to tour in support of a new album, instead of "riding the coattails" of the past and "damned compilation albums", and I'm all for the new album, don't get me wrong. But has anybody actually been to a concert by a band, like Queen, that has some age on it and noticed that two-thirds of the crowd are there for the hits and the old stuff, and are bored by and/or go to the bathroom or to the concession vendors when new material is played? There's always tons of energy from the audience for the old stuff, but when someone says "here's something off our new album", its like someone farted onstage and everyone looks around uncomfortably for three or four minutes. I certainly want to hear new material, I absolutely understand the band wanting to tour in support of new music, so as to avoid the perception of being a nostalgia act, but as far as the average audience goes, I think they could tour successfully on their laurels for the rest of their careers. That's certainly what KISS has done for the last decade, and other acts of lesser stature and success. I wouldn't want that for Queen in whatever form, but I also don't think a new album is some kind of magic draw for the average concert-goer. Like it or not, they want to hear BoRap, WWRY/WATC, AOBTD, CLTCL, and some choice material from Free and Bad Company. Otherwise, its time to drain the lizard and then fill it back up with overpriced beer. |
Tero 26.03.2008 00:50 |
Micrówave wrote: Maybe it's me. Or do I need to explain to Non-US music buyers that if you can't sell albums in the US, you might as well just give it up.That sounds logical... Not! "If I can't sell a million albums in the USA, I might as well give up my career. It doesn't matter if I sell 5 million in the Europe, my life just isn't complete unless mr. Microwave from the USA has bought one." I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but artists can be immensely succesfull globally and never sell a single album in USA. |
Tero 26.03.2008 00:58 |
redspecialusa wrote: Tero, All due respect you're an idiot. I've been up and down the East Coast of the United States, and weather you are willing to believe it or not...there is quite a market for Queen to come here and do what they do best. The only obstacle is weather Hollywood Records, & Jim Beach will actually make the effort to capitalize on this market...especially with the new album in the pipeline; whilst avoiding another damned compilation album (a.k.a.- recycling greatest hits). I believe Queen can make up for lost time and ground if they orchestrate everything just right; and "if" it is done right they will be as huge here as they are in the rest of the world.I honestly have no idea how popular Queen is in the USA, I have never claimed to know it, and ultimately it doesn't even have anything to do with what I've written (and why you've called me an idiot). If you cannot understand theoretical examples, than it is you who are an idiot. Queen doesn't want to play in every state (or even every Atlantic state) just to build up their good reputation, and they don't want to do the promotion that a record company should be doing for them all the time. They only want to play in big arenas for established audiences, where the promoter is guaranteed to pay them a lot of money. That doesn't contradict with anything that either you or I have written. |
Griffin 27.03.2008 09:21 |
for one, I'm glad to hear QPR will invade the US maybe in '09, there are other bands I want to see in '08 as well. perhaps a hit single later in the year will influence things. it's a beautiful day |