| Mr Mercury 05.03.2008 14:51 |
This sickened me when I saw this. These sick bastards should be shot imo link |
| Serry... 05.03.2008 15:03 |
May I offer you AK-47, sir? |
| John S Stuart 05.03.2008 15:17 |
Although I agree that paedophiles (male or female) should be shot - isn't this website a 'virtual world' and that no kids in the 'real world' have been harmed? In otherwords - what is there to prosecute here other than 'thought crime', and if we prosecute against one type of thought crime - shouldn't we prosecute against all? Also how do we square this against the Catharsis theory: That is - some researchers believe that such 'virtual' violence or pornography is good for society? (In otherwords because I view violence on the big screen - I am less likely to commit violence in real life - because my violent 'needs' are vicariously and safely fed rather than needing to be acted upon). From Sega marketing: The producers of violent computer games, like the producers of violent films, claim that their products are cathartic. For example, Sega Soft has created an online network containing violent games that claims to provide users an outlet for the "primal human urge to kill." In promotional materials for the fictional CyberDivision movement, the imaginary founder Dr. Bartha says, "We kill. It's OK. It's not our fault any more than breathing or urinating." Dr. Bartha claims that aggressive urges and impulses can be purged by playing violent video games. "It's a marketing campaign," said a SegaSoft spokesperson, "but there is some validity to the concept that you need an outlet for aggressive urges." Some people who play violent computer games, such as the following thirty-year-old video game player, agree: "When the world pisses you off and you need a place to vent, Quake [a violent video game] is a great place for it. You can kill somebody and watch the blood run down the walls, and it feels good. But when it's done, you're rid of it." |
| Mr Mercury 05.03.2008 15:26 |
Whilst its true that you cant actually prosecute someone on a "thought crime", my case in point was that there are perverts out there that take their fantasy paedo world into the real world, as shown in this clip. |
| Roger Meadows Tailor 06.03.2008 03:06 |
John Whilst i see what you're saying,a person with these paedophile needs who views these sites on a regular basis always has the ability to take these fantasies out into the real world.Also there are paedos who like us are abhorred by these sites but still carry out their sicko fantasies.Some folks whose violent needs are fed can get greedy and take it out into the street.It has been done.You dont have to look far for evidence,Stateside or over here in the UK. |
| John S Stuart 06.03.2008 07:39 |
RMT: Thanks for picking up the debate. As a sad old git, I really appreciate stimulating conversation - and god knows that has been missing in Queenzone of late! However, if your argument is correct (the site is in itself harmless per se - but can lead to "...the ability to take these fantasies out into the real world...") can not the same be said for violent movies and PC games, and if that premise is true - where do we draw the line? For example, I (like millions of others) have enjoyed the Beatles track 'Revolution' - but Charles Manson insists it inspired him to kill Sharon Tate. Therefore should the song be banned because one sick psychopath took his murderous fantasies out in the real world? My argument is that there are a number of reasons people do sick things (Just look up one of the 'youtube' threads on another page) but it is usually their (people's own) faults - and not the fault of the artist. And while I strongly agree that an internet site which allows the vicarious fantasy of paedophilla is really cutting close to the bone - is a 'virtual' crime the same as the real thing? If so - then I guess I too am guilty of 'thought' murder, as the last three movies I have seen are 'No Country For Old Men', 'There Will Be Blood' and 'Vantage Point'. |
| Roger Meadows Tailor 06.03.2008 08:34 |
Hi John Yea come join the sad old git club.Your stewardship will be vastly appreciated. Once again i see what your saying.Like me John,i think its fair to say that you're sane(although you might question that for being in this bloody place.[ha ha ha])So when you go to see these films you've got a grip on reality.However some can drink a pint of lager and leave it at that whereas others have to follow it up with four bloody bottles of whisky.Its these people that dont have a handle in life. You're right.The sites in themselves are not to blame,however they do provide a means for the aforementioned sickos to heighten their sick brains up so that they can act out their fantasies on some poor child. Remember,a gun on its own does not kill.Its the idiot who puts the bullets into the gun and then fires it at someone or something that kills. |
| john bodega 06.03.2008 09:09 |
Here's something far more damaging to humanity than any video game or violent movie.... the Bible. We had murderers before Doom came out, and we had murderers before Die Hard. This thread is of course about pedophilia but I just felt like pointing out; the pedos simply had something else to do before Second Life was invented. They were still around. Does anyone else think it should be mandatory to have a FIRST life before playing Second Life? |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 06.03.2008 15:43 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Here's something far more damaging to humanity than any video game or violent movie.... the Bible. We had murderers before Doom came out, and we had murderers before Die Hard. This thread is of course about pedophilia but I just felt like pointing out; the pedos simply had something else to do before Second Life was invented. They were still around. Does anyone else think it should be mandatory to have a FIRST life before playing Second Life?Haha. I agree completely. Word, as they say. |
| Matias Merçeauroix 06.03.2008 16:02 |
<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote:Freya, you're just TOO hot.Zebonka12 wrote: Here's something far more damaging to humanity than any video game or violent movie.... the Bible. We had murderers before Doom came out, and we had murderers before Die Hard. This thread is of course about pedophilia but I just felt like pointing out; the pedos simply had something else to do before Second Life was invented. They were still around. Does anyone else think it should be mandatory to have a FIRST life before playing Second Life?Haha. I agree completely. Word, as they say. Period. Thank you. *applauses* |
| Deacon Fan 06.03.2008 16:08 |
Man, it just takes a few rotten bananas to give pedos a bad name :( But seriously, there's no issue here. If you're a parent, it's your job to keep your kids supervised when they're online. There's too much crap *everywhere* that they could encounter. Let the pedos have their fantasy world in peace, I say. Some, like that woman in this video, say that such things bring about the acting out of fantasies. I believe otherwise.. a safe outlet for fantasies keeps the dudes from needing to act out in real life. |
| YourValentine 07.03.2008 06:14 |
The overwhelming majority of child abuse cases happen in the family. If you are a child and your uncle abuses you it does not make a difference if he had a chance to rehearse in Virtual Life or not. Child abusers travel across the planet to find places where they can rape kids without fearing punishment. We have to protect our children in real life - it's the only way. |
| John S Stuart 07.03.2008 08:28 |
YourValentine wrote: ...We have to protect our children in real life - it's the only way.I totally agree with you 100%. So your final sentence "...We have to protect our children in real life..." does this include the banning of 'Second life' - or do you think 'Second life' has little impact on reality? |
| YourValentine 07.03.2008 10:06 |
I don't know if a child abuser is more likely to abuse a child in reality when he plays these games beforehand. I think it's just as possible that some people act out their fantasies on the internet thus saving actual children but who knows. I know one thing: child abuse has happened before the internet and it's cheap to blame a website. Blaming a website, a movie or a computer game should not replace taking responsibility for the children in our family or neighbourhood. I am far more concerned about child abuse happening right under our noses because nobody cares to take a closer look. |
| John S Stuart 07.03.2008 12:58 |
YourValentine wrote: I am far more concerned about child abuse happening right under our noses because nobody cares to take a closer look....or simply because we do not know (or afraid to face up to the fact) that such horrendous acts can happen so close to home. |
| john bodega 07.03.2008 13:10 |
<b>- Horsie Clarkson - wrote: Freya, you're just TOO hot. Period.Man, it is so good that she happens to be legal or the credibility of this thread would've taken a serious kick in the nads. |
| Matias Merçeauroix 07.03.2008 18:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote:;)<b>- Horsie Clarkson - wrote: Freya, you're just TOO hot. Period.Man, it is so good that she happens to be legal or the credibility of this thread would've taken a serious kick in the nads. |
| Deacon Fan 08.03.2008 05:56 |
It's amazing how much depravity there is on the internets link (Semi-safe for work, no nudity but very suggestive) |
| Poo, again 08.03.2008 09:33 |
I'd like to have sex with minors. |
| Raf 08.03.2008 10:30 |
J7 wrote: It's amazing how much depravity there is on the internets link (Semi-safe for work, no nudity but very suggestive)LOL! Some people have too much free time. xD |
| Raf 08.03.2008 10:33 |
<font color=pink>Poo wrote: I'd like to have sex with minors.I'm a minor. You bring the condoms. |
| Poo, again 08.03.2008 13:01 |
<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:Girls, Raf.<font color=pink>Poo wrote: I'd like to have sex with minors.I'm a minor. You bring the condoms. Girls. You bring the ladies, and I'll do you as well if I feel like it. |
| Jadie 08.03.2008 16:23 |
PEODOPHILLIA IS WRONG |
| andreas_mercury 09.03.2008 06:48 |
Jadie wrote: PEODOPHILLIA IS WRONGwhat if the kid wants to fuck |
| Jadie 09.03.2008 16:10 |
SHUT UP YOU VILE PREDATOR, I HOPE YOU GET THROWN INTO A FURNESS AND BAKED WITH THE PIES. |
| Deacon Fan 09.03.2008 23:12 |
Jadie wrote: SHUT UP YOU VILE PREDATOR, I HOPE YOU GET THROWN INTO A FURNESS AND BAKED WITH THE PIES.Furry pies are the best ;) |
| Matias Merçeauroix 09.03.2008 23:52 |
The other day, a 50 year old women told me I was very hot and that if she was a few years younger, she'd fuck me forever. That scared me. Quite a lot. Now I make sure there aren't cameras on my bathroom before taking a shit. |
| john bodega 10.03.2008 12:58 |
andreas_mercury wrote:Well that's oogy.Jadie wrote: PEODOPHILLIA IS WRONGwhat if the kid wants to fuck |