QueenZone discussion #1083586
Defending Yourself As A Queen Fan
| Roger Meadows Tailor 20.02.2008 08:45 |
I wonder,have any of you guys or women ever been in a position where you've had to defend yourself as a Queen fan. I'll give you an example. One time i was in a pub in England and i happened to say i was a Queen fan when this guy come up to me and challenged me.He deduced that as Freddie Mercury was gay,he was also a paedophile and since i was a fan of his so i was the same.Naturally i cemented the c**t for having the audacity to say such a thing to me.Total spark out Queen fan=homosexual=paedophile.Has anybody else been accused of this?Seriously |
| steven 35638 20.02.2008 09:04 |
Yes, these things happen from time to time. However, I know I'm an individual with moral values that most others don't share, so I never take it too personally. You have to understand that there are people out their who are immature even well into their 40's. They have their own insecurities while I'm comfortable with who I am. Therefore, I feel no need to defend myself from an idiot, or ridicule someone else for something or another. It's a waste of my time and breath. If anything, I'll have a smart remark like "Pardon your rudeness, but your breath is horrid this evening." |
| -fatty- 2850 20.02.2008 10:56 |
I've been accused of being a paedophile before but it had nothing to do with being a Queen fan. Mind you, the 14 naked children I had chained together in the cellar didn't do a lot to help my case either. fatty. |
| Queen+me 20.02.2008 11:23 |
i've been called gay before because i was a queen fan but also this was coming from a guy that thought that brian roger john and freddie were all gay but i also live in northern saskatchewan in like a hick town so go figure |
| FriedChicken 20.02.2008 11:31 |
fatty wrote: I've been accused of being a paedophile before but it had nothing to do with being a Queen fan. Mind you, the 14 naked children I had chained together in the cellar didn't do a lot to help my case either. fatty.Hey fatty, How do you f*ck a 9 year old between her breasts? smash in her rib cage |
| BradJarre 20.02.2008 11:39 |
@ my school there are kids and they say:Queen is gewoon een lompe zak en die vent is een homo. Or in english: Queen is a jerk and the guy is gay. |
| guitarist319 20.02.2008 11:54 |
The band I am in has a couple members who oppose Queen's music because Freddie was gay. I stand my ground with these gentlemen, of course. So far, Fat Bottomed girls is being added to our set list. I intend to add a medley similar to the one Queen did live. I did it in the last band I was in, and it shocked the hell out of the audience. I mean that in a positive way. Seriously....you go to hear a live band in a local bar, you expect Bob Seger and REO Speedwagon, but who the hell has the balls to even attempt Queen? |
| brENsKi 20.02.2008 12:12 |
there are far more important things than defending yourself as a queen fan...this is a bizarre thread.... who cares what people think? let em love/hate whatever they like for whatever reason they choose to do so - that's free will, as is yours to like whatever band you like, regardless of sexuality (yours, the opposers or the bands) just get over it FOOTNOTE: this month my aunt died and was cremated and my brother has been diagnosed with stomach cancer...and THIS TOPIC is important? |
| TerrorOfKnowing 20.02.2008 12:13 |
I have a couple of friends who are supposedly real metal heads who have insulted me when I say Queen is my favorite band. They said Queen were weak, Freddie's voice was too flowery and that they really couldn't even be called a rock band ... so I burned one of them a copy of Queen II and it pretty much shut him up, lol. |
| Jazz 78 20.02.2008 12:14 |
I went through all that shit back in the 70's and because Freddie was doing his bisexual shtick back then naturally the kids in my school dismiised him and the band. But I stood my ground and bought every album up to that point which was at the time of NOTW. Still a fan to this day. I can't believe some of you fans here actually have to deal with such jerks. I thought it was just the older fans that went through this when the band was still together and touring and recording. It amazes me that there are people out there that hate Queen but will go crazy at a sporting event when We Are THe Champions is played or even We Will ROck You! |
| Hayek Eva 20.02.2008 12:27 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: Yes, these things happen from time to time. However, I know I'm an individual with moral values that most others don't share, so I never take it too personally. You have to understand that there are people out their who are immature even well into their 40's. They have their own insecurities while I'm comfortable with who I am. Therefore, I feel no need to defend myself from an idiot, or ridicule someone else for something or another. It's a waste of my time and breath. If anything, I'll have a smart remark like "Pardon your rudeness, but your breath is horrid this evening."You have absolutely right!I agree with you. |
| Yara 20.02.2008 12:28 |
Hi, Roger! How are you? Hope you're doing fine. Hm, I used to do it on a daily basis, I guess. lol Whenever people here "catched" me listening to Queen, well, I had to do some explaining. lol I was supposed to be listening to other stuff, which I do, much more than Queen, but people wouldn't let me be queenie in peace: if it's not the most obscure and complex composer who never had any of his stuff recorded, it's trash, that's how basically most people - very nice people, it's in no way a critique - here think if you add some more composers there. Beethoven is trash, for example, I don't even start arguing about that because people write dissertations to prove that it's trash; not only trash as music, but also a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, as the guy in that movie says. And there are only the composers because, in their minds, no one has been able to render their works correctly. So, there's a pianist here, good friend of mine, who thinks Marc-André Hamelin is a fad and that his 7 yeard old son plays better than the guy. What can I say? If the guy is waiting for the Messias, that's cool. He's frustrated that he listened to all those who are considered the top virtuosos and they all make mistakes, even silly mistakes, in recitals. So he thinks it's all trash. The way he entertains himself, I'm serious, is by listening to the music in his mind. I'm serious. And it's true, he does that. He's able to sight-read the most complex scores you can imagine. And he listens to stuff in his mind, with joy. 90 % of the time the guitar, the bass or the piano aren't right either, so the guy has to start building his own instrument or improving the one he already has. This dear - we have a very close friendship, despite the way I portray him; he does the same with me, I'm sure lol - friend happens to find me listening to Queen. Well...he's also my professor, so...you know, it's complicated. The guy is the real deal. It's not arguing about Freddie being gay; it's about arguing whether Queen is trash or music, and then things got rough and the discussions were usually bitter and wild. lol We used to argue a whole lot. Nowadays, he just says: "Ok, Queen is trash, and you like it, that's great, you should listen much more to it in fact, it gives you joy", and so on. So, it's ok if I like Queen, as long as I accept that it's trash. I used to argue a lot about this kind of thing. My friend is very knowledgeable and, dear me, he plays many instruments much better than anyone I have ever listened to. He can't create music, he admits to that, but he knows how to get you to understand and enjoy it WITHOUT LISTENING TO IT. It's crazy stuff, but in fact it's quite good as a means of learning and education. You do get schizo with time and start to listen to music in your mind, but it's a real joy. That being said, my problem is discussing Queen with people who THINK they are technically proficient in music. That's where I tend to lose my patience and I just walk away. I study music since I was 3 and sometimes it's just irritating to listen to people talk as if they knew anything at all about what they're saying. I don't have any problem with people enjoying music without knowing it more deeply. In fact, I envy these people, because they have a kind of experience I'm no longer able to have. I envy and respect them. That's a shared view I have with my friend: knowing, and thinking too much, is a disease, and in a certain way we have both poisoned ourselves to the point of being unable to experience music in a significant meaningful way. What I can't stand is people wanting to discuss Liszt TECHNICALLY in order to show off but without: 1) Being able to play flawlessly all his most relevant works, which is a lot; by flawlessly I mean a decent rendtion of the piece, without technical blunders and so on and WITH a good insight about how the piece should be played, that is, being a |
| Poo, again 20.02.2008 12:33 |
No, I've never had to defend myself as a Queen fan. That's just stupid. |
| Treasure Moment 20.02.2008 12:35 |
TerrorOfKnowing wrote: I have a couple of friends who are supposedly real metal heads who have insulted me when I say Queen is my favorite band. They said Queen were weak, Freddie's voice was too flowery and that they really couldn't even be called a rock band ... so I burned one of them a copy of Queen II and it pretty much shut him up, lol.fuck them! im as much as a metal head you could possibly be and Queen is my fave band ever even though i listen mostly just to brutal death metal. calling queen weak? i would throw them in a vulcano if i could |
| Holly2003 20.02.2008 12:52 |
One time Chuck Liddell started giving me stick about how gay John Deacon was and I unleashed hell on him right there and then. It didn't even last 10 seconds. If Randy Couture was ever to come round my house and start mouthing off about Brian May's fruity perm he would get it too --Satan's right hook, right upside the head. I would then stuff his already decomposing corpse into a volcano, or possibly a hole that had been opened up by an earthquake or maybe a meteor hit. |
| Lisser 20.02.2008 16:45 |
Holly2003 wrote: One time Chuck Liddell started giving me stick about how gay John Deacon was and I unleashed hell on him right there and then. It didn't even last 10 seconds. If Randy Couture was ever to come round my house and start mouthing off about Brian May's fruity perm he would get it too --Satan's right hook, right upside the head. I would then stuff his already decomposing corpse into a volcano, or possibly a hole that had been opened up by an earthquake or maybe a meteor hit.Duuuuuuuude!! Way?? ;) |
| Roger Meadows Tailor 20.02.2008 18:29 |
Hi Yara.Its Brian. Thank you for answering my post. I wondered if this was just a male thing or if females experienced this too.Ok the guy whom accosted me may have been living in the past with his comments but to me he was very real and needed to be dealt with as he was in my face in an aggressive manner.Nothing else to it.He had to be dealt with.I am definitely against violence for reasons i've explained in my last email to you.Yes it was wrong but there was no way i could see to avoid it at the time.Not when theres a guy menacingly close to your face,spoiling for a fight himself,i might add. I guess i'm wrong. |
| Roger Meadows Tailor 20.02.2008 19:02 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: there are far more important things than defending yourself as a queen fan...this is a bizarre thread.... who cares what people think? let em love/hate whatever they like for whatever reason they choose to do so - that's free will, as is yours to like whatever band you like, regardless of sexuality (yours, the opposers or the bands) just get over it FOOTNOTE: this month my aunt died and was cremated and my brother has been diagnosed with stomach cancer...and THIS TOPIC is important?Brenski Yes i do agree with you in respect of your aunt and your brother.Please accept my condolences. A topic like this pales into insignificance when compared to that. But after all it is only a topic.I was just wondering if anybody else had experienced the same sort of thing.Thats all.Thank you for answering,my friend |
| Dusta 20.02.2008 19:06 |
Well, perhaps you shouldn't have chained them. That was probably what gave you away.
fatty wrote: I've been accused of being a paedophile before but it had nothing to do with being a Queen fan. Mind you, the 14 naked children I had chained together in the cellar didn't do a lot to help my case either. fatty. |
| Dusta 20.02.2008 19:11 |
I am so sorry for your loss.<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: there are far more important things than defending yourself as a queen fan...this is a bizarre thread.... who cares what people think? let em love/hate whatever they like for whatever reason they choose to do so - that's free will, as is yours to like whatever band you like, regardless of sexuality (yours, the opposers or the bands) just get over it FOOTNOTE: this month my aunt died and was cremated and my brother has been diagnosed with stomach cancer...and THIS TOPIC is important? |
| QueenMercury46 20.02.2008 20:31 |
Here's a conversation I've often encountered: Dumbass: "You like Queen? They're gay." Me: "Really? I wasn't aware that 'gay' was a music genre." Dumbass: "They suck." Me: "So you dislike a band just because of a gay lead singer? Have you ever taken the time to look past your homophobia and listen to the music?" Dumbass: "Yeah, and they suck." Me: "Well I'm sorry to see that the homophobia has eaten away your brain cells." Dumbass: "Are you gay?" |
| deleted user 20.02.2008 20:43 |
^ LMFAO. I've had to defend myself now and again. Various assumptions have been made of me, various assumptions have been made of the band...it's the way simple minds work. It's just better to grin and bear it. People seriously have a difficult time of seeing things outside of their narrow point of view. [shrugs] |
| ana_libra 21.02.2008 03:28 |
narrow-minded people hate their lack of the ability to see wide-screen. they don't realize it, or admit it, but become aware of it when they meet people with greater abilities. that's basicaly the whole problem. don't get too excited about that. i think it's always a better challenge to stay calm and smile. it pisses them off! |
| pittrek 21.02.2008 03:45 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: there are far more important things than defending yourself as a queen fan...this is a bizarre thread.... who cares what people think? let em love/hate whatever they like for whatever reason they choose to do so - that's free will, as is yours to like whatever band you like, regardless of sexuality (yours, the opposers or the bands) just get over it FOOTNOTE: this month my aunt died and was cremated and my brother has been diagnosed with stomach cancer...and THIS TOPIC is important?Hey Brenski, my father died last month on lung cancer, so I know exactly how you feel. Sorry for hearing that. This rubbish is far from important. |
| pittrek 21.02.2008 03:46 |
<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote: Here's a conversation I've often encountered: Dumbass: "You like Queen? They're gay." Me: "Really? I wasn't aware that 'gay' was a music genre." Dumbass: "They suck." Me: "So you dislike a band just because of a gay lead singer? Have you ever taken the time to look past your homophobia and listen to the music?" Dumbass: "Yeah, and they suck." Me: "Well I'm sorry to see that the homophobia has eaten away your brain cells." Dumbass: "Are you gay?"Hell this conversation sounds familiar |
| andres_clip 21.02.2008 05:20 |
I dont give a flying fuc* just like Freddie, what people think.We all know that Queen are the greatest band ever.... |
| lyricalassasin77 21.02.2008 08:52 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: there are far more important things than defending yourself as a queen fan...this is a bizarre thread.... who cares what people think? let em love/hate whatever they like for whatever reason they choose to do so - that's free will, as is yours to like whatever band you like, regardless of sexuality (yours, the opposers or the bands) just get over it FOOTNOTE: this month my aunt died and was cremated and my brother has been diagnosed with stomach cancer...and THIS TOPIC is important?Your on a Queen site and your going to attack the person who made this thread as it being irrevelant. Atleast he proposed a topic that relates to the band Queen. What ISN'T relevant here is your aunt or your brother. You want to come here and jump somebody's shit and question what's important and not important. Fuck your aunt and your brother for real. You get what you dish out prick.........Now as for the post, I have many times had to hear jokes about Queen but mainly about Freddie and his lifestyle but I could give a fuck because that's just people being shallow. Besides over 75% of these people I have found are really closet Queen fans that have quite a few songs they like from the band, there just follower's instead of leaders and think its uncool to like them. Glad to see that FINALLY that perception is changing quite a bit over here in the US.....I've probably had it worse than alot of you all here cuz I had Freddie's name along with his year of birth/death tattooed across my back, so go figure....still I don't give a damn, let people think what they will. Like the old saying goes.....Think in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first...That's what ya get for THINKING....Peace |
| steven 35638 21.02.2008 09:34 |
lyricalassasin77 wrote: Your on a Queen site and your going to attack the person who made this thread as it being irrevelant. Atleast he proposed a topic that relates to the band Queen. What ISN'T relevant here is your aunt or your brother. You want to come here and jump somebody's shit and question what's important and not important. Fuck your aunt and your brother for real. You get what you dish out prick.........I do not normally point out the immaturity of individuals on Queenzone; however, you have attracted my brief attention. Brenski has simply come to the conclusion that much of what we talk about on Queenzone is irrelevent and superficial bull shit that, for the most part, has no meaning upon our lives. Any psychologist would tell you Brenski is trying to vent, and you come along and state "Fuck your aunt and your brother for real." I cannot express how callow and imbecilic you made yourself look. As a final note, the guy did have something important to say prior to his footnote. |
| The Exhibitionist 21.02.2008 13:19 |
Yeah, I've been called gay for being a Queen fan. Funny thing is, It's for a different reason |
| The Exhibitionist 21.02.2008 13:21 |
Don't let my signature and sense of humor fool you, I actually am very, very, bisexual. And Very, very Polish. |
| Killer Queenie 21.02.2008 16:31 |
Never had to defend myself really. I just say I'm a huge Queen fan and leave it at that. People just look at me wierdly when I sing a lyric randomly or if they ask me if I like that latest number one in the charts and I say no 'cos I don't listen to much of todays music. But I've never had to defend myself. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. |
| QueenTaylor 21.02.2008 21:28 |
hah. This topic made me laugh. I'm a good one for defending myself. I practically attack when someone says something nasty about Queen. lol I don't know...it's mostly becuase they don't know everything that Queen is about and all they want to know is that Freddie was gay and that's enough to judge. Can't stand it. |
| lyricalassasin77 22.02.2008 08:46 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:I could careless what the hell you think. I can go as low as anybody when I see somebody being ignorant. If he wants to vent then maybe he can cry on your shoulder since your such a psychologist....and if that is indeed his conclusion he should place himself above all of us and take the high road. I see idiotic posts on here all the time but not once have I ever taken the time out of my day to harp on somebody about it. Enough said..lyricalassasin77 wrote: Your on a Queen site and your going to attack the person who made this thread as it being irrevelant. Atleast he proposed a topic that relates to the band Queen. What ISN'T relevant here is your aunt or your brother. You want to come here and jump somebody's shit and question what's important and not important. Fuck your aunt and your brother for real. You get what you dish out prick.........I do not normally point out the immaturity of individuals on Queenzone; however, you have attracted my brief attention. Brenski has simply come to the conclusion that much of what we talk about on Queenzone is irrelevent and superficial bull shit that, for the most part, has no meaning upon our lives. Any psychologist would tell you Brenski is trying to vent, and you come along and state "Fuck your aunt and your brother for real." I cannot express how callow and imbecilic you made yourself look. As a final note, the guy did have something important to say prior to his footnote. |
| steven 35638 22.02.2008 09:57 |
lyricalassasin77 wrote:I should have known from the start you'd turn out to be just another contemptible person. But enough of the name calling. I will be the first to admit that I probably should not have opened my mouth since these kinds of confrontations almost always end without conclusion. However, I shall stand by what I said, just as I would expect you to do the same. Regardless our differences, I wish you farewell and hope for better, more productive, conversations in the future.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:I could careless what the hell you think. I can go as low as anybody when I see somebody being ignorant. If he wants to vent then maybe he can cry on your shoulder since your such a psychologist....and if that is indeed his conclusion he should place himself above all of us and take the high road. I see idiotic posts on here all the time but not once have I ever taken the time out of my day to harp on somebody about it. Enough said..lyricalassasin77 wrote: Your on a Queen site and your going to attack the person who made this thread as it being irrevelant. Atleast he proposed a topic that relates to the band Queen. What ISN'T relevant here is your aunt or your brother. You want to come here and jump somebody's shit and question what's important and not important. Fuck your aunt and your brother for real. You get what you dish out prick.........I do not normally point out the immaturity of individuals on Queenzone; however, you have attracted my brief attention. Brenski has simply come to the conclusion that much of what we talk about on Queenzone is irrelevent and superficial bull shit that, for the most part, has no meaning upon our lives. Any psychologist would tell you Brenski is trying to vent, and you come along and state "Fuck your aunt and your brother for real." I cannot express how callow and imbecilic you made yourself look. As a final note, the guy did have something important to say prior to his footnote. |
| Raf 23.02.2008 07:49 |
If someone says a band is bad just because their lead singer was gay, it means the person thinks gays are bad simply because they're gay. So, basically, you win the argument without saying a word: the person is being utterly ridiculous. I have no trouble "defending" myself when people say "Queen are gay". On the other hand, when I spend over 20 minutes talking about how great their music was and the person says "Oh yes, I have heard one album by them, 'The Works'"................. |
| brENsKi 23.02.2008 12:19 |
lyricalassassin77 - if you cared to check - i DID make a reply to the original thread - but that does not mean i cannot also comment on the vacuous nature of some threads...anyone else does it and it's ok i do it and compare it to my aunt dying and my brother being ill and YOU attack me... FOOTNOTE for lyricalassassin77: My brother got his test results back Friday...and there appears to be cancerous acivity in his lymph glands...he's only 38 yrs old, and now has no better than a 10% chance of survival.... |
| lyricalassasin77 23.02.2008 12:38 |
First of all your a moron for even coming on here sharing such personal information about your family with complete strangers. When you do that you run the risk of it being thrown back in your face. My words were a bit harsh but none the less so were yours. This is a Queen site and I think somebody bringing up a worthwhile post isn't grounds for being attacked by saying "who cares, is this really important?".....Cuz if you want to take that approach comparing it to your family issues then NOTHING on here is important so let's just get rid of Queenzone...There's too many people running amok on here that attack others for what they contribute when if it wasn't for these people there would be nothing to come on here to reply too. As for you Oedddie or whatever you call yourself you can keep on breaking out your big words all you wish, still doesn't make you look any smarter....Peace |
| Cygnus X-1 23.02.2008 13:17 |
some typical music cliche's i've been confronted with: Queen - you're gay! If not, you have a moustache, a beer belly and addicted to soccer! Rush - You're a total nerd, ugly, woman hates you ,or a music student (or drummer ;-) Kiss - out of fashion, perverded and you have no clue about music skills Heavy Metal (general) - redneck, white trash, retarded, dumb! |
| Holly2003 23.02.2008 13:20 |
Cygnus X-1 wrote: some typical music cliche's i've been confronted with: Queen - you're gay! If not, you have a moustache, a beer belly and addicted to soccer! Rush - You're a total nerd, ugly, woman hates you ,or a music student (or drummer ;-) Kiss - out of fashion, perverded and you have no clue about music skills Heavy Metal (general) - redneck, white trash, retarded, dumb!The Kiss one is spot on though... |
| steven 35638 23.02.2008 13:53 |
lyricalassasin77 wrote: As for you Oedddie or whatever you call yourselfStop right there. The name's Steve. lyricalassasin77 wrote: you can keep on breaking out your big words all you wishWhich big words didn't you understand? lyricalassasin77 wrote: still doesn't make you look any smarter....PeaceCompared to you, I beg to differentiate. |
| Killer Queenie 23.02.2008 14:11 |
Wow, how did this thread manage to turn from a simple "how do you defend yourself from people who say queen are gay" thread to an insult thread?! Strange... |
| steven 35638 23.02.2008 14:30 |
I apologize for my contribution to the argument everybody. If lyricalassasin77 wishes to make another crude remark, I promise not to respond. Let the original concept of the thread continue! |
| lyricalassasin77 23.02.2008 16:02 |
lol.....let's test that theory |
| Roger Meadows Tailor 28.02.2008 11:51 |
Thanks everybody for answering my post. |
| Holly2003 28.02.2008 12:16 |
Lisser wrote:Well there's the earthquake so plenty of chances now to unleash hell on the anti_queens ;)Holly2003 wrote: One time Chuck Liddell started giving me stick about how gay John Deacon was and I unleashed hell on him right there and then. It didn't even last 10 seconds. If Randy Couture was ever to come round my house and start mouthing off about Brian May's fruity perm he would get it too --Satan's right hook, right upside the head. I would then stuff his already decomposing corpse into a volcano, or possibly a hole that had been opened up by an earthquake or maybe a meteor hit.Duuuuuuuude!! Way?? ;) |