lovelykate 18.02.2008 11:40 |
i want to know your views on my topic so feel free to ask x |
Roger Meadows Tailor 18.02.2008 13:23 |
No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget Freddie |
lovelykate 18.02.2008 16:36 |
i agree |
TerrorOfKnowing 18.02.2008 16:43 |
The era of Queen is over, the era of Queen+ is now. Yes, it's true that from our original lineup we only have Brian and Roger, but we have to remember that those two DO have the EXPERIENCE of Queen under their belts. They're going to produce something different than we're used to, but that's appropriate. In many ways the Queen of the 70s wasn't the same Queen that existed in the 80s. Why expect the same in the 2000s? |
Fopjeflauwmopje 18.02.2008 16:45 |
its not a seceret any more now you open up the door things wil never be the saime again |
Delilah89 18.02.2008 17:43 |
No! Never ever ever ever! It will never be the same! Ever! |
ana_libra 18.02.2008 18:27 |
It won't, coz it can't.. It hurts, it'll always hurt, but freddie's gone... forever... the one thing that is comforting to know is that he'll live forever... i like to think of new queen as of a totally different band, so that there is no place for comparison... |
FriedChicken 18.02.2008 18:28 |
you could've asked that same question every time they released a new album. Cause every album Queen sounded a bit different. |
john bodega 19.02.2008 02:55 |
I have some bad news. Freddie Mercury's stone cold corpse was shoved in a coffin and roasted in the fires of a crematorium about 16-ish years ago. Queen will never be the same. I'm surprised you didn't know. |
Treasure Moment 19.02.2008 05:24 |
how can it be the same without freddie? its IMPOSSIBLE! that man is the reason why queen became what it became, not that the other memebers arent important but freddie was GOD of music |
The Fairy King 19.02.2008 06:20 |
Treasure Moment wrote: memebersInsane in the memembrane :P |
Treasure Moment 19.02.2008 06:21 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:Not really, Freddie= MAJOR part of Queen and god of musicTreasure Moment wrote: how can it be the same without freddie? its IMPOSSIBLE! that man is the reason why queen became what it became, not that the other memebers arent important but freddie was GOD of musicInsane in the memembrane :P you REALLY are a fucking ignorant fool if you think Queen can ever be anything even close to what it was without freddie |
The Fairy King 19.02.2008 06:35 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Insane in the membrane!<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:Not really, Freddie= MAJOR part of Queen and god of music you REALLY are a fucking ignorant fool if you think Queen can ever be anything even close to what it was without freddieTreasure Moment wrote: how can it be the same without freddie? its IMPOSSIBLE! that man is the reason why queen became what it became, not that the other memebers arent important but freddie was GOD of musicInsane in the memembrane :P INSANE IN THE BRAIN! xD |
lovelykate 19.02.2008 07:28 |
can we stick to da subject |
Treasure Moment 19.02.2008 07:49 |
nothing to discuss really because the thread title is ridiculous. Of course it can never be the same without freddie, its like asking if a person without its brain being the same or not. |
FriedChicken 19.02.2008 08:19 |
I doubt that they even WANT to be the same as 30 years ago. If they would be the same that means that they didn't learn anything in the last 30 years. People evolve, bands evolve. And that's interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off |
john bodega 19.02.2008 10:24 |
Freddie's corpse. |
fairydandy 19.02.2008 10:39 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieBetter! What ever fucking planet are you on? |
Treasure Moment 19.02.2008 11:13 |
fairydandy wrote:exactly! what the fuck are you talking about getting better?!?! clearly a fake queen fan who knows SHIT about Queen and what made them what they were.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieBetter! What ever fucking planet are you on? |
LozlanTheMage 19.02.2008 11:40 |
Treasure Moment wrote:A: The equal contributions of four gifted members.fairydandy wrote:clearly a fake queen fan who knows SHIT about Queen and what made them what they were.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieBetter! What ever fucking planet are you on? B: FREDDIE MERCURY'S FLATULANCE WAS THE MUSIC OF THE SPHERES. |
Poo, again 19.02.2008 11:54 |
kate do u hav msn? |
Roger Meadows Tailor 22.02.2008 09:49 |
Treasure Moment wrote:I know more about Queen than you could ever wish to.fairydandy wrote:exactly! what the fuck are you talking about getting better?!?! clearly a fake queen fan who knows SHIT about Queen and what made them what they were.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieBetter! What ever fucking planet are you on? Treasure Moment typical wanker on speed.I followed Queen right from the very beginning before your dad was a spunk bubble. |
Treasure Moment 22.02.2008 10:02 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:Doesnt matter one bitTreasure Moment wrote:I know more about Queen than you could ever wish to. Treasure Moment typical wanker on speed.I followed Queen right from the very beginning before your dad was a spunk bubble.fairydandy wrote:exactly! what the fuck are you talking about getting better?!?! clearly a fake queen fan who knows SHIT about Queen and what made them what they were.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieBetter! What ever fucking planet are you on? |
Lady Nyx 22.02.2008 14:11 |
Treasure Moment wrote:TM, teach me your tact, please.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:Doesnt matter one bitTreasure Moment wrote:I know more about Queen than you could ever wish to. Treasure Moment typical wanker on speed.I followed Queen right from the very beginning before your dad was a spunk bubble.fairydandy wrote:exactly! what the fuck are you talking about getting better?!?! clearly a fake queen fan who knows SHIT about Queen and what made them what they were.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieBetter! What ever fucking planet are you on? |
Tero 23.02.2008 06:18 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieI only got to know Queen's music right after Freddie died, so I'd like to think that I can "get my head around" his absence... With that in mind, I'd like to know how the band has the potential to be better with only half of the members left? If it were the other three without John (or Roger) I would agree that "Queen" could still probably reach the same level, but I really don't think of Freddie as a negative influence who was bringing the quality of the band down. :/ |
Treasure Moment 23.02.2008 19:53 |
Tero wrote:you obviously have NO CLUE what you are talking about and dont understand how Queen were. Without freddie there is no Queen, simple as that, he was the one with the voice and also the one who made the important decisions that made them what they are. Freddie was the heart of Queen, without it there is no life.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieI only got to know Queen's music right after Freddie died, so I'd like to think that I can "get my head around" his absence... With that in mind, I'd like to know how the band has the potential to be better with only half of the members left? If it were the other three without John (or Roger) I would agree that "Queen" could still probably reach the same level, but I really don't think of Freddie as a negative influence who was bringing the quality of the band down. :/ |
Tero 24.02.2008 04:01 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Do you mean me? Do you understand written English?Tero wrote:you obviously have NO CLUE what you are talking about and dont understand how Queen were. Without freddie there is no Queen, simple as that, he was the one with the voice and also the one who made the important decisions that made them what they are. Freddie was the heart of Queen, without it there is no life.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: No it wont be the same.But before anybody starts huffing and puffing,it has the potential to be better. Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that. Time to move on.After all Brian and Roger have did just that.Paul's with us and he's here to stay. We will not forget FreddieI only got to know Queen's music right after Freddie died, so I'd like to think that I can "get my head around" his absence... With that in mind, I'd like to know how the band has the potential to be better with only half of the members left? If it were the other three without John (or Roger) I would agree that "Queen" could still probably reach the same level, but I really don't think of Freddie as a negative influence who was bringing the quality of the band down. :/ |
Ken8 24.02.2008 05:30 |
As there will never again be huge chart success, sell out concert performances that will stand the test of time, and a charismatic, unique front man......No, of course it'll never be the same |
Ken8 24.02.2008 05:32 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that.Nevermind "Queen fans" not getting their heads around it People in their right mind just can't see the point |
Ken8 24.02.2008 05:38 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I doubt that they even WANT to be the same as 30 years ago. If they would be the same that means that they didn't learn anything in the last 30 years. People evolve, bands evolve. And that's interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck offYeah, why on earth would they want to go back to the Freddie era...when they had credibility and success? They're quite happy now being a laughing stock and mining the last penny out of a once great band. Just because things "evolve" doesn't mean they evolve for the better |
Ken8 24.02.2008 05:42 |
Tero wrote: ...I really don't think of Freddie as a negative influence who was bringing the quality of the band down. :/Good point Yeah, that Freddie guy was really holding them back for years. Thank God he's gone so they can concentrate on making the music they would've before he interfered...music that nobody could care less about. |
Roger Meadows Tailor 24.02.2008 14:35 |
Ken8 wrote:Here here!Thats what idiots like TM cant see.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that.Nevermind "Queen fans" not getting their heads around it People in their right mind just can't see the point |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 06:08 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:wtf are you talking about? im the one saying that there is no point without freddie all the time you idiotKen8 wrote:Here here!Thats what idiots like TM cant see.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Freddie's gone.He went nearly 16 and a half years ago.But a lot of Queen fans STILL cant get their heads around that.Nevermind "Queen fans" not getting their heads around it People in their right mind just can't see the point |
gnomo 25.02.2008 06:25 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I doubt that they even WANT to be the same as 30 years ago. If they would be the same that means that they didn't learn anything in the last 30 years. People evolve, bands evolve.That's probably the most intelligent comment ever on the subject... |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 10:09 |
gnomo wrote:they cant evolve good without freddie, its IMPOSSIBLE and that statement was moronic not intelligent, there is no queen without freddie! get it through your head!FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I doubt that they even WANT to be the same as 30 years ago. If they would be the same that means that they didn't learn anything in the last 30 years. People evolve, bands evolve.That's probably the most intelligent comment ever on the subject... |
Mr.Jingles 25.02.2008 10:58 |
Who needs Queen when there's Treasure Moment, the god almighty of music. |
PieterMC 25.02.2008 10:59 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Who needs Queen when there's Treasure Moment, the god almighty of music.I agree 100%. |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 11:21 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Who needs Queen when there's Treasure Moment, the god almighty of music.i do, even with TM being around no one can beat the almighty QUEEN :D |
gnomo 25.02.2008 11:55 |
Treasure Moment wrote:I miss Freddie like crazy - his voice, his style, his creativity, his flair, his humour: there will never be another like him.gnomo wrote:they cant evolve good without freddie, its IMPOSSIBLE and that statement was moronic not intelligent, there is no queen without freddie! get it through your head!FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: If they would be the same that means that they didn't learn anything in the last 30 years. People evolve, bands evolve.That's probably the most intelligent comment ever on the subject... But, despite of our love and our sorrow and our wishes and our dreams and our delusions, REALITY says: THERE IS STILL MUSIC WITHOUT FREDDIE! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD! But of course you can't. |
Micrówave 25.02.2008 14:22 |
Treasure Moment wrote: no one can beat the almighty QUEEN :DBon Jovi almost did. I hear they're demanding a re-count. |
Tero 25.02.2008 14:35 |
gnomo wrote:Let's forget about TM for a moment here (or for good..).Treasure Moment wrote:I miss Freddie like crazy - his voice, his style, his creativity, his flair, his humour: there will never be another like him. But, despite of our love and our sorrow and our wishes and our dreams and our delusions, REALITY says: THERE IS STILL MUSIC WITHOUT FREDDIE! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD! But of course you can't.gnomo wrote:they cant evolve good without freddie, its IMPOSSIBLE and that statement was moronic not intelligent, there is no queen without freddie! get it through your head!FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: If they would be the same that means that they didn't learn anything in the last 30 years. People evolve, bands evolve.That's probably the most intelligent comment ever on the subject... I'm far more interested in this comment in the very first reply of this thread: "[Queen without Freddie---] has the potential to be better." That goes far beyond "there is still music without Freddie." It goes beyond saying the band has a right to continue their recording career, and all the way to "they're better off without Freddie, he was the one holding them back". Just how many people here think that Queen is better without Freddie? Are they being serious? |
deleted user 25.02.2008 15:05 |
Its like cod without mushy pea's, it doesnt seem right at first. Im a firm believer that Queen are capable of poducing good music even without the two originals. Bands reform all the time. Look at deep purple sure. Of course it wont be the same but thats what happens in life. People move on |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 15:42 |
Micrówave wrote:nope, its simply impossible, bon jovi though having some good songs is a complete joke compared to Queen, Queen is on a different leagueTreasure Moment wrote: no one can beat the almighty QUEEN :DBon Jovi almost did. I hear they're demanding a re-count. |
Roger Meadows Tailor 25.02.2008 16:44 |
<font color=dark red>WhiteQueen wrote: Its like cod without mushy pea's, it doesnt seem right at first. Im a firm believer that Queen are capable of poducing good music even without the two originals. Bands reform all the time. Look at deep purple sure. Of course it wont be the same but thats what happens in life. People move onYes i agree with that.To say that Freddie was the only one capable of making a decision for the band(as some folks we shall not mention are saying)is totally dismissing out of hand Brian,Roger and John's decision making input.They were all equal.Some of Freddie's ideas were dismissed out of hand too.That is why i purposefully said that Brian and Roger and Paul's band had the POTENTIAL(and i used that word POTENTIAL because i knew that certains clowns are totally blind and impervious to it)to be better.All bands have the potential to be better.Its part and parcel of being in a band. You see Freddie was a teen idol of mine in the seventies.I looked up to him then and i still look up to him now as an entertainer/showman supreme.But behind that showman supreme was supreme talent in the form of Brian,Roger and John.Ok John's chosen not to gig any more.But there's no reason why Brian and Roger cant be equally successful.I'm sure Freddie would want that.Even as Queen. Anyway,i'll be there when they go on tour even if some of you wont. |
Leaky Luke 25.02.2008 16:57 |
Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet? |
Roger Meadows Tailor 25.02.2008 17:24 |
Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?NO.THANK GOD!!!Not whilst there is more deserving souls.Freddie must be smiling on us. |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 17:37 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:Freddie would be our biggest fan you fucking fake tasteless fucker!Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?NO.THANK GOD!!!Not whilst there is more deserving souls.Freddie must be smiling on us. We write EXACTLY in the same style as freddie , very classical influenced but a fucking retard like you cant hear that. |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 17:38 |
Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?havent searched for one, lable or not, it means nothing, Quality is quality without the approval of some lable. I guess britney spears and countless talentless rappers have a lot of credibility because they have a lable...... |
Roger Meadows Tailor 25.02.2008 17:46 |
Treasure Moment wrote:As if you'd know about quality.You retard!!!Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?havent searched for one, lable or not, it means nothing, Quality is quality without the approval of some lable. I guess britney spears and countless talentless rappers have a lot of credibility because they have a lable...... |
Treasure Moment 25.02.2008 17:54 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:i sure do, about 1000 times more than youTreasure Moment wrote:As if you'd know about quality.You retard!!!Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?havent searched for one, lable or not, it means nothing, Quality is quality without the approval of some lable. I guess britney spears and countless talentless rappers have a lot of credibility because they have a lable...... |
Roger Meadows Tailor 25.02.2008 19:09 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Oh stop it.My sides are sore with laughing.HA HA HA HARoger Meadows Tailor wrote:i sure do, about 1000 times more than youTreasure Moment wrote:As if you'd know about quality.You retard!!!Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?havent searched for one, lable or not, it means nothing, Quality is quality without the approval of some lable. I guess britney spears and countless talentless rappers have a lot of credibility because they have a lable...... |
Tero 26.02.2008 00:06 |
I'm just going to run through this once more to highlight my problem with your message.
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Some of Freddie's ideas were dismissed out of hand too. That is why i purposefully said that Brian and Roger and Paul's band had the POTENTIAL to be better.Better than what? Better than Queen+Paul Rodgers? Better than Queen? Better than the Backstreet Boys? Every band can be better than themselves, especially if we're talking about a band whose only release up to now is Say It's Not True. :P You are, however, saying this in a topic about Queen without Freddie. You have also specifically mentioned the other three members dismissing Freddie's (and no-one else's) ideas as one of the advantages of a band, and said that without having to dismiss his ideas (or having him in the band) they are better off. To me that sounds like a pretty straightforward claim that Freddie was a negative influence on Queen, and THAT's why Queen+Paul Rodgers has the potential to be better than Queen. Please tell me I've interpreted your messages too literally? Please tell me I'm wrong and just don't understand English language? That would be an infinitely better alternative than facing a "Queen" fan who thinks it was Freddie who was dragging the band down all these years! |
Treasure Moment 26.02.2008 04:23 |
hah, freddie is THE reason why the band got big in the first place and everyone knows that. John,brian and roger are also very talented and i have huge respect for all of them but we have to be honest and tell the truth. Freddie was the most important member, he wasnt only a frontman and a singer in a band called queen, he was a VERY SPECIAL person, a musical genius, the worlds best voice and singer, basically the best musician and singer of all time forever. |
gnomo 26.02.2008 04:46 |
Tero wrote: Just how many people here think that Queen is better without Freddie? Are they being serious?My personal opinion, FWLIW: - Queen can not be better without Freddie because it's not fully Queen without Freddie and John, both sound-wise and inspiration-wise (regardless of the perception of reality within a certain thick curly skull); - both Paul and the remaining members of Queen can keep "growing" and be better than they were, if they keep their minds and ears open, and keep incorporating into their music their new (personal and musical) experiences; - the band, Q+PR, can grow much better than it started off, as its members keep improving individually and the interaction among their individual backgrounds and experiences turns into a closer synergy. The potential is definitely there. Hope they put it to good use and do not waste this chance... |
Treasure Moment 26.02.2008 05:10 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:keep laughing, laugh at yourselfTreasure Moment wrote:Oh stop it.My sides are sore with laughing.HA HA HA HARoger Meadows Tailor wrote:i sure do, about 1000 times more than youTreasure Moment wrote:As if you'd know about quality.You retard!!!Leaky Luke wrote: Well I've been away for about 3/4 year.. Did TM get a record lable yet?havent searched for one, lable or not, it means nothing, Quality is quality without the approval of some lable. I guess britney spears and countless talentless rappers have a lot of credibility because they have a lable...... |