Roger Meadows Tailor 11.02.2008 16:14 |
Which would you consider to be not a proper bona-fida Queen album and so therefore wouldnt necessarily rush out and buy it.Would it be for example ROTC or like mine MIH coz its a posthumus album and had Freddie not been dying they wouldnt have made it. |
fanatic125 11.02.2008 21:56 |
Flash Gordon |
...assdude.... 39702 11.02.2008 22:33 |
fanatic125 wrote: Flash GordonHAHAHAHAHA its funny coz its true |
...assdude.... 39702 11.02.2008 22:34 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Which would you consider to be not a proper bona-fida Queen album and so therefore wouldnt necessarily rush out and buy it.Would it be for example ROTC or like mine MIH coz its a posthumus album and had Freddie not been dying they wouldnt have made it.MIH to me is more of a queen album than anythign Bri and Rog will do.. Yes, its a posthumus album, but that was the intention with out choice, so part of it was formed as a unit, some material ended upo being polished ect ect... |
TerrorOfKnowing 11.02.2008 23:35 |
I'd also argue that Made In Heaven counts as a "proper" album because it was Freddie Mercury's request that he could spend as much time as he could before he passed recording so that there could BE one final Queen album. It was a conscious choice decided on by the band to do it as such, almost like a concept album with the theme being Queen's farewell. To me, MIH and No-One But You were about the end of the "Queen" era, transitioning us into the era of "Queen+" ... and oddly, I'm actually listening to the Flash Gordon right now as I'm writing this and didn't make the connection. |
Just You and Me 12.02.2008 01:17 |
Yeah, I got the Flash Gordon sound track with the movie and put it on itunes. Most of the time when one of the songs come on I skip it. I usually listen to Hero and that ooo ewoooo ewoooo one where Aura resurects Flash. That one is allright. |
Roger Meadows Tailor 12.02.2008 02:18 |
TerrorOfKnowing wrote: I'd also argue that Made In Heaven counts as a "proper" album because it was Freddie Mercury's request that he could spend as much time as he could before he passed recording so that there could BE one final Queen album. It was a conscious choice decided on by the band to do it as such, almost like a concept album with the theme being Queen's farewell. To me, MIH and No-One But You were about the end of the "Queen" era, transitioning us into the era of "Queen+" ... and oddly, I'm actually listening to the Flash Gordon right now as I'm writing this and didn't make the connection.I see what you're getting at but i still feel that had Freddie had not been dying they may have made the next album something like,say, Innuendo. In its way i'd say MIH is like a sad album IMHO.Take for example Mother Love.Can you listen to that without feeling a tad down.Knowing as you do that was the last song Freddie ever sung on.The ironically titled Let Me Live.Ditto My Life Has Been Saved.Its A Beautiful Day.These songs may have remained in the vaults.I Was Born To Love You was just a re-recording.A good version mind you.Also ditto Heaven For Everyone. Just my opinion. |
TerrorOfKnowing 12.02.2008 02:25 |
I think the problem with Flash Gordon is the same problem that Hot Space has ... it was made in the 80s. Honestly though, Queen really went headfirst into synthesizers after so many years of "no synths" in their albums and it took a couple years for them to get the hang of using them properly. I think the bones of most of the Flash Gordon tracks probably aren't really as bad as we make them out to be, it's just shoddy production in a lot of it. If someone were to eventually remix the album and bring it up to modern standards it might be salvageable. As it is though ... yeah. I think the fan standpoint on the album as it is is pretty much universal. |
paulosham 12.02.2008 09:55 |
Just You and Me wrote: I usually listen to Hero and that ooo ewoooo ewoooo one where Aura resurects Flash. That one is allright.Ha Ha Ha, ewoooo ewoooo, I love that bit too. |
Champipple 12.02.2008 11:20 |
I wouldn't consider MIH a proper Queen album because Freddie had no say in the post production. It's somewhere in-between whatever Queen + PR is going to come up with a a proper Queen album. |
mooghead 12.02.2008 12:20 |
ROTC (feel dirty just typing it) don't own it, haven't heard it, never will. |
brENsKi 12.02.2008 15:11 |
...ASSDUDE.... wrote:i'm sorry but i disagree - MIH is primarily Bri's album...most of it has HIS stamp all over it..Yes the intention was there to make a queen album, and yes it had Freddie's blessing, but it DIDN'T have Freddie's input into the final sounds/mix/production...Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Which would you consider to be not a proper bona-fida Queen album and so therefore wouldnt necessarily rush out and buy it.Would it be for example ROTC or like mine MIH coz its a posthumus album and had Freddie not been dying they wouldnt have made it.Yes, its a posthumus album, but that was the intention with out choice, so part of it was formed as a unit, some material ended upo being polished ect ect... also, from what i recall John more or less "tagged along" - his heart wasn't in it, and Rog had lots of "other stuff" going on in his life at that time...so it was REALLY a Brian May controlled output - ffs - there's guitars all over the Freddie solo stuff - some of it - IWBTLY and MIH sound awful for the changes made |
rockthecosmos2008 12.02.2008 15:36 |
Hi, Sorry i am being a little slow here, but what's ROTC? |
rockthecosmos2008 12.02.2008 15:37 |
Hi again, I know it's return of the champions, i realized as i posted message!!! |
Michael Allred 12.02.2008 15:57 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:As I recall, it was Roger and John who started work on MIH as Brian just didn't want to jump into it right away. It was only after some prodding that Brian finally got in on the act....ASSDUDE.... wrote:i'm sorry but i disagree - MIH is primarily Bri's album...most of it has HIS stamp all over it..Yes the intention was there to make a queen album, and yes it had Freddie's blessing, but it DIDN'T have Freddie's input into the final sounds/mix/production... also, from what i recall John more or less "tagged along" - his heart wasn't in it, and Rog had lots of "other stuff" going on in his life at that time...so it was REALLY a Brian May controlled output - ffs - there's guitars all over the Freddie solo stuff - some of it - IWBTLY and MIH sound awful for the changes madeRoger Meadows Tailor wrote: Which would you consider to be not a proper bona-fida Queen album and so therefore wouldnt necessarily rush out and buy it.Would it be for example ROTC or like mine MIH coz its a posthumus album and had Freddie not been dying they wouldnt have made it.Yes, its a posthumus album, but that was the intention with out choice, so part of it was formed as a unit, some material ended upo being polished ect ect... |
Daveboy35 12.02.2008 16:20 |
Michael Allred wrote:Yes michael you are right about that it was john and roger who first moote about getting the project underway and only when brian heard what they had done was when he got involved.<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:As I recall, it was Roger and John who started work on MIH as Brian just didn't want to jump into it right away. It was only after some prodding that Brian finally got in on the act....ASSDUDE.... wrote:i'm sorry but i disagree - MIH is primarily Bri's album...most of it has HIS stamp all over it..Yes the intention was there to make a queen album, and yes it had Freddie's blessing, but it DIDN'T have Freddie's input into the final sounds/mix/production... also, from what i recall John more or less "tagged along" - his heart wasn't in it, and Rog had lots of "other stuff" going on in his life at that time...so it was REALLY a Brian May controlled output - ffs - there's guitars all over the Freddie solo stuff - some of it - IWBTLY and MIH sound awful for the changes madeRoger Meadows Tailor wrote: Which would you consider to be not a proper bona-fida Queen album and so therefore wouldnt necessarily rush out and buy it.Would it be for example ROTC or like mine MIH coz its a posthumus album and had Freddie not been dying they wouldnt have made it.Yes, its a posthumus album, but that was the intention with out choice, so part of it was formed as a unit, some material ended upo being polished ect ect... Apparaently they were going nowhere fast until brian came long and more or less took over production, and in my opinion MIH and IWBTLY sound much better with bri's guitars on it making it sound like queen which was obviously the intention. |
PieterMC 12.02.2008 16:23 |
Michael Allred wrote: As I recall, it was Roger and John who started work on MIH as Brian just didn't want to jump into it right away. It was only after some prodding that Brian finally got in on the act.Not exactly correct, but close. Brian the following in an interview with Q Magazine in 1998. "Right up until the end Freddie asked me for lyrics and music that he could work on, and he was adamant that this material should be released. After he died, my way of dealing with it was to go out on tour. But Roger and John became very impatient with me and started working on the tapes. I didn't want this stuff to go out without my involvement, so I took the tapes off them, felt that they'd done it wrong and spent months putting it all back together. Doing Made In Heaven was like assembling a jigsaw puzzle, and I'm sorry if this guy feels uneasy about it, but I wouldn't have put my seal of approval on it if I hadn't thought it was up to standard." link |
The Fairy King 13.02.2008 03:19 |
Flash Gordon. |
john bodega 13.02.2008 03:59 |
I'd say The Miracle and Innuendo. They aren't proper albums, Freddie put zero effort in... he was lazy around the studio, only showing up when he felt like it. He was lazy; bone-idle. Thumbs down Freddie, you bludger. |