Darko 07.12.2007 11:54 |
I have just a little question to ask. At the very end of Bohemian Rhapsody Roger says: “There’s a little correction, starts going flat and just gets himself in tune again”. What does Roger mean by that, when exactly does Freddie go flat? |
Darko 08.12.2007 06:47 |
It was on the commentary track of the new DVD. |
coops 08.12.2007 09:54 |
Darko wrote: I have just a little question to ask. At the very end of Bohemian Rhapsody Roger says: “There’s a little correction, starts going flat and just gets himself in tune again”. What does Roger mean by that, when exactly does Freddie go flat?Freddie's singing is a little flat ( you can hear it) and then corrects himself and gets back in tune. I think it's pretty self explanatory. Perhaps singing the song so many times, he lapses in concentration or experiments a little. |
decampos 29.12.2007 09:09 |
coops wrote: Freddie's singing is a little flat ( you can hear it) and then corrects himself and gets back in tune. I think it's pretty self explanatory.Didn't sound flat to me. Maybe the version Brian and Roger were commenting on wasn't yet 'corrected' (like when they 'corrected' the crowd not singing during Love of my Life') |
John S Stuart 29.12.2007 11:30 |
decampos wrote:This, I think is spot on. The 'old' DVD (& VHS)versions are still available. So to compare, I think you would need to watch the 'original' releases against the new 'sonically enhanced' version.coops wrote: Freddie's singing is a little flat ( you can hear it) and then corrects himself and gets back in tune. I think it's pretty self explanatory.Didn't sound flat to me. Maybe the version Brian and Roger were commenting on wasn't yet 'corrected' (like when they 'corrected' the crowd not singing during Love of my Life') That way you should be able to hear what Roger hears - so his comments may make more sense. Sorry, I do not know how to 'capture' small sound files from DVD - or else I would have posted the 'before' and 'after' extracts for you to compare. |
Cwazy little thing 30.12.2007 05:32 |
John S Stuart wrote:Far be it for me to suggest they dont tidy up, enhance and occasionally correct bits of the live releases, but I dont think thats what Roger is talking about here at all - the commentary at that point from memory has Bri and Roger talking about Freddie's voice and abilities, and in that context Im certain the correct interpretation is that Roger was admiring Freddie's vocal control.decampos wrote:This, I think is spot on. The 'old' DVD (& VHS)versions are still available. So to compare, I think you would need to watch the 'original' releases against the new 'sonically enhanced' version. That way you should be able to hear what Roger hears - so his comments may make more sense. Sorry, I do not know how to 'capture' small sound files from DVD - or else I would have posted the 'before' and 'after' extracts for you to compare.coops wrote: Freddie's singing is a little flat ( you can hear it) and then corrects himself and gets back in tune. I think it's pretty self explanatory.Didn't sound flat to me. Maybe the version Brian and Roger were commenting on wasn't yet 'corrected' (like when they 'corrected' the crowd not singing during Love of my Life') Admittedly I dont hear Fred go flat, but I think Roger is actually just hearing the different choice of notes Freddie often sang on various bits of songs, and in particular on that part of Bo Rap. This strikes me as an intentional variation from what he sings on the record, and I think Roger assumed this was a mistake which Fred then corrects, rather than intentional - he's only listened to it once after all. As for the Love of My Life crowd singing - I dont have the basis of comparison to hand, as I dont have a working VHS player at the moment, but, is it not possible that they merely increased the volume of the crowd when it came to remixing the audio - this enhancement isnt really anything to get upset about if its just "turning up" the level of the crowd in the mix, as opposed to tacking on something from another show. |
decampos 30.12.2007 13:27 |
Cwazy little thing wrote: Far be it for me to suggest they dont tidy up, enhance and occasionally correct bits of the live releases, but I dont think thats what Roger is talking about here at all - the commentary at that point from memory has Bri and Roger talking about Freddie's voice and abilities, and in that context Im certain the correct interpretation is that Roger was admiring Freddie's vocal control. Admittedly I dont hear Fred go flat, but I think Roger is actually just hearing the different choice of notes Freddie often sang on various bits of songs, and in particular on that part of Bo Rap. This strikes me as an intentional variation from what he sings on the record, and I think Roger assumed this was a mistake which Fred then corrects, rather than intentional - he's only listened to it once after all. As for the Love of My Life crowd singing - I dont have the basis of comparison to hand, as I dont have a working VHS player at the moment, but, is it not possible that they merely increased the volume of the crowd when it came to remixing the audio - this enhancement isnt really anything to get upset about if its just "turning up" the level of the crowd in the mix, as opposed to tacking on something from another show.This is becoming a bit of a mystery. I've just dug out the VHS of this and the previous DVD release and I'll be buggered if I can hear Freddie singing flat. Yet both Roger and Brian *really do* make it sound as though Freddie was singing off key at that particular moment ... then corrected himself. I can't actually recall anytime that Freddie was out of tune (apart from when his voice would crack). Brian and Roger on the other hand ... As for Love of my life, it's fairly well known that the crowd just 'didn't sing' at those two gigs for that tune. Queen productions are (in my opinion) trying to rewrite history and have quite blatantly (again, in my opinion) 'dropped in' the singing. Probably taken it from Rio or something like that. If you listen to the original version, it's as though you could hear a pin drop. I personally liked it liked that. |
pittrek 30.12.2007 14:20 |
decampos wrote:Guys, just to stop the bold font in quotes , just add a [ /QUOTENAME ] (without the spaces) after "Cwazy little thing wrote:"Cwazy little thing wrote: Far be it for me to suggest they dont tidy up, enhance and occasionally correct bits of the live releases, but I dont think thats what Roger is talking about here at all - the commentary at that point from memory has Bri and Roger talking about Freddie's voice and abilities, and in that context Im certain the correct interpretation is that Roger was admiring Freddie's vocal control. Admittedly I dont hear Fred go flat, but I think Roger is actually just hearing the different choice of notes Freddie often sang on various bits of songs, and in particular on that part of Bo Rap. This strikes me as an intentional variation from what he sings on the record, and I think Roger assumed this was a mistake which Fred then corrects, rather than intentional - he's only listened to it once after all. As for the Love of My Life crowd singing - I dont have the basis of comparison to hand, as I dont have a working VHS player at the moment, but, is it not possible that they merely increased the volume of the crowd when it came to remixing the audio - this enhancement isnt really anything to get upset about if its just "turning up" the level of the crowd in the mix, as opposed to tacking on something from another show.This is becoming a bit of a mystery. I've just dug out the VHS of this and the previous DVD release and I'll be buggered if I can hear Freddie singing flat. Yet both Roger and Brian *really do* make it sound as though Freddie was singing off key at that particular moment ... then corrected himself. I can't actually recall anytime that Freddie was out of tune (apart from when his voice would crack). Brian and Roger on the other hand ... As for Love of my life, it's fairly well known that the crowd just 'didn't sing' at those two gigs for that tune. Queen productions are (in my opinion) trying to rewrite history and have quite blatantly (again, in my opinion) 'dropped in' the singing. Probably taken it from Rio or something like that. If you listen to the original version, it's as though you could hear a pin drop. I personally liked it liked that. |
decampos 30.12.2007 15:00 |
Cwazy little thing wrote: Guys, just to stop the bold font in quotes , just add a [ /QUOTENAME ] (without the spaces) after ""I was wondering what was going on there. Thanks for the tip. This forum engine is quite 'old skool' I guess. |
Togg 03.01.2008 08:58 |
Cwazy little thing wrote:Regarding the Roger comment about Freddie, I think you are correct here, i don't think he was refering to anything other than Freds amazig vocal abilities here.John S Stuart wrote:Far be it for me to suggest they dont tidy up, enhance and occasionally correct bits of the live releases, but I dont think thats what Roger is talking about here at all - the commentary at that point from memory has Bri and Roger talking about Freddie's voice and abilities, and in that context Im certain the correct interpretation is that Roger was admiring Freddie's vocal control. Admittedly I dont hear Fred go flat, but I think Roger is actually just hearing the different choice of notes Freddie often sang on various bits of songs, and in particular on that part of Bo Rap. This strikes me as an intentional variation from what he sings on the record, and I think Roger assumed this was a mistake which Fred then corrects, rather than intentional - he's only listened to it once after all. As for the Love of My Life crowd singing - I dont have the basis of comparison to hand, as I dont have a working VHS player at the moment, but, is it not possible that they merely increased the volume of the crowd when it came to remixing the audio - this enhancement isnt really anything to get upset about if its just "turning up" the level of the crowd in the mix, as opposed to tacking on something from another show.decampos wrote:This, I think is spot on. The 'old' DVD (& VHS)versions are still available. So to compare, I think you would need to watch the 'original' releases against the new 'sonically enhanced' version. That way you should be able to hear what Roger hears - so his comments may make more sense. Sorry, I do not know how to 'capture' small sound files from DVD - or else I would have posted the 'before' and 'after' extracts for you to compare.coops wrote: Freddie's singing is a little flat ( you can hear it) and then corrects himself and gets back in tune. I think it's pretty self explanatory.Didn't sound flat to me. Maybe the version Brian and Roger were commenting on wasn't yet 'corrected' (like when they 'corrected' the crowd not singing during Love of my Life') |