QueenZone discussion #1061428

kirkpatrickuk wrote: Sorry that sounds negative, I just wanna hear new songs without a guest singer being allowed to sing the last verse. I think it messes with the continuity of the song.

Jjeroen wrote: Hmm... This is me being oldfashionedly critical: At the beginning of the song I was realy disappointed. I don't like the backingtrack (strings). It takes just a little bit too long for the song to get going and think that it is too slow to be realy powerfull. Both Brian and Roger's vocals are a bit weak at times, cheesy and miss edgyness. Also I find that phasing effect on the vocals just plain crap. I liked the live versions better. This sounds as a demo. Second time I listened I already found some peace with these elements though. But THEN, when the guitars, drums and Paul kick in, it is totally fantastic and it moved me the way I expected and hoped it would move me. Marvellous. Good to hear Brian is playing old fashioned great guitarparts again! (I was realy disappointed with his sound and parts on MIH for instance...) That part sure has the Queen-classiness and power and it fits Paul greatly. Good job, guys! I agree though, with what others already said,that this should realy be the last time that they put more then one leadsinger on a track. It should have been all Roger or all Paul. This way it realy sounds like three parts pasted together.

Raffy wrote: Anybody knows who plays the bass???

Jjeroen wrote:

Raffy wrote: Anybody knows who plays the bass???

Probably Brian.

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I really like this arrangement, because it also shows the anger

Al TurHao wrote: One more thing: Is this as NEW as we can get? I was hoping it would be a new album, with new songs from a new band. I hope Brian and Roger don't force poor Paul into a Made In Heaven, part 2. (I'm guessing the album will also feature The Call, with Brian "Keith Richards Syndrome" May on vocals...) It's like the new DVD's. All are stuff previously released. (WWRY, 17 versions of ANATO,...) I almost bet the next released concert will be Rock In Rio 1985.. or Final Live in Japan'85. Painful...

DavidRFuller wrote: I like it. Very powerful. The video should include people of all races and background though, that's the point of the song. Anyone is vulnerable to the disease.

ahandabovethewater wrote: I just have to agree with you guys. It's brilliant. And altough I really enjoyed Paul Rodgers vocals on tour, I think this song is really the final proof that Queen picked the best singer they could found. I really look forward to a full album now. Although I wonder if this song will be included on the album or not.

vadenuez wrote: It's all Queen by numbers.

Anthemic-type power ballad with cheesy lyrics (sorry folks, I know it's for a good cause, but they are cheesy),

DavidRFuller wrote: I like it. Very powerful. The video should include people of all races and background though, that's the point of the song. Anyone is vulnerable to the disease.

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Something tangible yet something real.

<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I don't care if somebody attempts to strike me down, but I hope that they stick with the name Queen and leave out the '+'. In my humble and honest opinion, this is the way it should be. Queen have entered a new era!

<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: It must be noted that on the cover of the single it does not say Queen+Paul Rodgers. Instead, it says 'Queen' with the credit going toward all three of them! Oh, the horror! Catch me! I'm fainting! I don't care if somebody attempts to strike me down, but I hope that they stick with the name Queen and leave out the '+'. In my humble and honest opinion, this is the way it should be. Queen have entered a new era!

zardon wrote: I woke up today and had a call from a friend to let me know that Queen had a new single out, so I went online trying to see when it was released so I could buy it. I find from brian mays site that it is in fact a free download of a song which id heard on numerous occassions and quite liked. So after downloading, i fired it up and thought, hey quite nice, very heartfelt vocals from Roger and Brian, not really expecting the almighty wall of sound, that trademark Queen "blow your socks off" wave of aural pleasure to hit me. So I come online after listening to what I felt was an amazing taster of the long awaited forthcoming Queen & PR album to join in the praises, and what do I read. 4 pages, generally from so called music critics analysing the good old days, and how everyone has apparently lost the magic they once had. I guess i must be listening to something different. We have a song that builds from a distant and sorrowful Rogers vocal, into the mournful sound of Brian's voice, they share some beautiful harmonies. Then we are hit by the trademark Red Special wall of sound, that is often imitated but never truly matched. Riding the waves of the incredible layered guitar harmonics and heartfelt soloing is one of the best soul voices ever to have emerged in the history of music. It reminded me of when I was 14, and depressed, and Queen music kept me going. Sure we all miss Freddie but shall we all just forget him, or remember his spirit everytime we hear Brian's guitar, now accompanied by someone equally as talented but in a different zone? I have met Brian, Roger and Paul once, and I took the photograph for the back cover of the CHAMPIONS album and they are three of the nicest, most down to earth people who are not in this for the money, but for the love of letting their music bring pleasure to people. I hope none of them are reading this thread, for I am deeply ashamed to be associated with most of you, and it is certainly a reminder of why I rarely visit this site, I made the mistake again today of doing so. Hopefully some of you will release that its not 1975, Freddie is sadly no longer with us, and with your words of support these three extremely talented and genuine people can issue in a new era of Queen music. A different direction, but still heartfelt, with a tinge of the blues. Brian may has never sounded or played better, he has the ability to make every note count, which is not something you can learn in guitar school, but something a handful of people are born with.

pma wrote: What's with the metallic effects on Brain and Rodger's voices? Did someone leave the autotune setting on 'Britney' by mistake?

zardon wrote: 4 pages, generally from so called music critics analysing the good old days, and how everyone has apparently lost the magic they once had. I guess i must be listening to something different. ... I hope none of them are reading this thread, for I am deeply ashamed to be associated with most of you, and it is certainly a reminder of why I rarely visit this site, I made the mistake again today of doing so.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The metallic sound is there simply because it's a bad mp3 encoding. I hope we'll get to hear a clean version of the song at some point.

It's not the encoding. From what I can tell, the effects are applied only to Roger and Brian's voice, and the drums. Paul is clear, the opening synths are clear (while Roger isn't), even the guitar seems mostly free of effect(s).
That's not to say it won't sound better on the album, but unless they remix it these swishy/phasing effects will be there.. which is something else I wanted to point out.. nowhere has it been officially written that this track is "download-only". I think we'll get it on the album too, or at the very least on the Best Buy bonus disc ;)

AlexRocks wrote: I've got a question! Was there already a studio version of "Say It's Not True" released or unreleased? I thought that was what was on the "46664" c.d. release am I wrong? Isn't that mainly a live recording? Thanks for letting me know and have a good day!

Marcos Napier wrote: It was exactly like I was expecting it to be: Awful with a capital A. Whenever they keep trying to sound like Queen, they are failing. As some said, it's not 1975 anymore. Or 1991. BTW, the metallic effect is called a "phaser", not "MP3". Where's my good old Hot Space vinyl... the favourite record of the trolls?

The Bunny who lost her Golden Pants wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: The metallic sound is there simply because it's a bad mp3 encoding. I hope we'll get to hear a clean version of the song at some point.

It's not the encoding. From what I can tell, the effects are applied only to Roger and Brian's voice, and the drums. Paul is clear, the opening synths are clear (while Roger isn't), even the guitar seems mostly free of effect(s). That's not to say it won't sound better on the album, but unless they remix it these swishy/phasing effects will be there.. which is something else I wanted to point out.. nowhere has it been officially written that this track is "download-only". I think we'll get it on the album too, or at the very least on the Best Buy bonus disc ;)

Another Roger (re) wrote:

Marcos Napier wrote: It was exactly like I was expecting it to be: Awful with a capital A. Whenever they keep trying to sound like Queen, they are failing. As some said, it's not 1975 anymore. Or 1991. BTW, the metallic effect is called a "phaser", not "MP3". Where's my good old Hot Space vinyl... the favourite record of the trolls?

So why dont you fuck off then? heh. You know nothing about whats Queen. Brian May and Roger Taylor are in fact members of the band and they owe nothing to you. If you dont like what they do so just piss off. Live in the past, do what you want. Buy a manic street preachers album. Or a Led Zeppeling album for that matter. No one will notice.

The Bunny who lost her Golden Pants wrote:

Another Roger (re) wrote:

Marcos Napier wrote: It was exactly like I was expecting it to be: Awful with a capital A. Whenever they keep trying to sound like Queen, they are failing. As some said, it's not 1975 anymore. Or 1991. BTW, the metallic effect is called a "phaser", not "MP3". Where's my good old Hot Space vinyl... the favourite record of the trolls?

So why dont you fuck off then? heh. You know nothing about whats Queen. Brian May and Roger Taylor are in fact members of the band and they owe nothing to you. If you dont like what they do so just piss off. Live in the past, do what you want. Buy a manic street preachers album. Or a Led Zeppeling album for that matter. No one will notice.

Wow. What a mature argument you've made. I'm sure you've single-handedly changed Marcos' opinion, cursed him to a slow painful death and assured that nobody can possibly dislike the track. Congrats! Can I be next? What do I get for pointing out your hateful, immature reply?

Penetration_Guru wrote:

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: Something tangible yet something real.

Best look up long words before you use them...

goinback wrote: Just got this, I hear some phasing effects AND also some things that sound like a low-quality MP3 encode...I think both are present. Brian's guitar kind of sounds over-produced or something but it may just be the MP3 clipping. I really wanted to like this, but unfortunately I think the lyrics to "Tie Your Mother Down" are deeper. Lyrics were never one of Queen's strong points, which may be why they used to avoid a lot of serious songs like this. Reading on the site that the song is about how "HIV AIDS is something that can affect any one of us no matter our sexual or racial status", I knew I was in for a disappointment (and I'm a gay guy with friends who have AIDS). This is the same old boring "message" everyone's heard since Freddie died...if it hasn't sunk in with someone by now then it never will. (I guess maybe this is a groundbreaking message in Africa, but it's old hat in a lot of countries.) They really needed to put some kind of twist on the message to make it more thought-provoking or something, it would have made the song edgier. I like Queen + PR (and their shows kicked ass) but this type of lyric-driven song just isn't their forte IMHO...they're not Roger Waters. Hate to sound like I'm bashing Queen since I'm glad they're doing new stuff, but that's just my honest opinion of this track. Hmm I hope they come out with a rocker next....

Roger Meadows Tailor wrote:

goinback wrote: Just got this, I hear some phasing effects AND also some things that sound like a low-quality MP3 encode...I think both are present. Brian's guitar kind of sounds over-produced or something but it may just be the MP3 clipping. I really wanted to like this, but unfortunately I think the lyrics to "Tie Your Mother Down" are deeper. Lyrics were never one of Queen's strong points, which may be why they used to avoid a lot of serious songs like this. Reading on the site that the song is about how "HIV AIDS is something that can affect any one of us no matter our sexual or racial status", I knew I was in for a disappointment (and I'm a gay guy with friends who have AIDS). This is the same old boring "message" everyone's heard since Freddie died...if it hasn't sunk in with someone by now then it never will. (I guess maybe this is a groundbreaking message in Africa, but it's old hat in a lot of countries.) They really needed to put some kind of twist on the message to make it more thought-provoking or something, it would have made the song edgier. I like Queen + PR (and their shows kicked ass) but this type of lyric-driven song just isn't their forte IMHO...they're not Roger Waters. Hate to sound like I'm bashing Queen since I'm glad they're doing new stuff, but that's just my honest opinion of this track. Hmm I hope they come out with a rocker next....

Whilst i appreciate it is your HO and you try to put it over well,i have some things to say. 1/ To say lyrics were never one of Queen's strong points.I disagree.There is plenty of evidence to the contrary.Looking back on previous albums you'll find songs like Bohemian Rhapsody,You Take My Breath Away and even Seaside Rendezvous.Songs whose lyrics were crafted as well as the melodies. 2/ As for serious songs, well there's Is This The World We Created for example. 3/ Whilst i appreciate that you seem to know more than most about AIDS and are wise and sensible because of this there are those who dont know or are ignorant of the message and it is to them that this song is aiming at. I honestly am not preaching to you friend. I'm just saying what is MHO

Jamaleni wrote: why they distort Roger vocals at the begining of the song? It sounds horrific.

Fenderek wrote: I agree that the lyrics to SINT are absolutely terrible- Roger waters it ain't, right about that! Were Queen always bad at lyrics? they had brilliant moments- like FLICK OF THE WRIST, PROPHET'S SONG, WHITE QUEEN or INNUENDO. Those lyrics were brilliant, although they were never really trying to change the world with them. And that was a good thing. But they also had a lot of "only good" ones, like IN ONLY 7 DAYS, YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND (I'd say- most of their lyrics are in that category) and some really bad ones- LAS PALABRAS DE AMOR for instance, which I think is just absolutely awful... I personally feel that with SINT they just scored their worst set of lyrics ever...

Jjeroen wrote: Hey T! Good to see you, again! :-)

Acathla wrote: I'm very sorry. I like the live version which was sung by Roger. Now it's fucking awful. Hoped that they kept it basic, but now they had to let in Paul and Brian. Shame, in my humble opinion. :)

zardon wrote:

pma wrote: What's with the metallic effects on Brain and Rodger's voices? Did someone leave the autotune setting on 'Britney' by mistake?

The metallic sound is there simply because it's a bad mp3 encoding. I hope we'll get to hear a clean version of the song at some point.