QueenZone discussion #1060490

ruth.olivier wrote: Hummm... well, for a vine is somewhere where grape grows.... And my dictionnary isn't of any help !!! It seems that you are not willing to share some good old Bordeaux here, so I don't really know what you mean by "vine"... could you please explain me ? Always happy to learn new things... Regards, Olivier France.

pittrek wrote:

ruth.olivier wrote: Hummm... well, for a vine is somewhere where grape grows.... And my dictionnary isn't of any help !!! It seems that you are not willing to share some good old Bordeaux here, so I don't really know what you mean by "vine"... could you please explain me ? Always happy to learn new things... Regards, Olivier France.

If I remember correctly, thus "vine" thing means, that you make a "chain" of people, from which the first one makes copies of his discs and sends them to the second person, the second person burns copies from those discs and sends them to the third person, etc. ...

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: This is a great idea. Before anything is sent, though, I think there should be extensive discussion and comparisons of versions, to ensure the best version is the one that spreads.

ruth.olivier wrote: Well, personnally, I wouldn't mind taking part of a vine for audio too, do you think it would be complicated to do ? Regards, Olivier, France.

josedequeso wrote: Bob, do you mind going through my website and see if these are in fact the best versions available. link Thanks

Gym Bitch wrote: It would be easier to do it on Rapidshare and change the password every once in a while to keep out the mp3 riff-raff.

Gym Bitch wrote: 1 - Overseas shipping sometimes takes 3 weeks or more. 2 - Shipments within the same continent (but between different counties) takes longer than a week. 3 - Shipments sometimes get lost / stolen in the mail. 4 - Shipments sometimes get damaged in the mail. 5 - A few people will accept the package, but not continue the vine (and not answer e-mails). 6 - Some people need to be reminded to burn and mail the package within one week's time to keep the vine moving.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: London 79... complete? Methinks you copied the setlist from the CDs, as there isn't a complete video out there that I know of.

pittrek wrote: Buenos Aires looks great. There is one version with a better picture, but cropped to 16:9 from Snow Producciones.

pittrek wrote: Hyde Park - I don't remember my copy being so dark, but I can be wrong.

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith Odeon 1975 - if it is from the "Christmas Eve at Hammersmith"" bootleg, it's the best "commonly available" version, but not the best existing.

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith Odeon 1979 - it looks like the best version. DQA version is more complete, but looks worse.

pittrek wrote: Munich 79 - is it YV's version ? Because it looks great.

pittrek wrote: Sao Paolo 81 - looks better then my version.

pittrek wrote: Tokyo 79 - looks better then my version

josedequeso wrote:

pittrek wrote: Tokyo 79 - looks better then my version

I dunno, I guess mine’s the best version, it’s NTSC, just under 1 GB. That’s good for only 24 minutes of footage.

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith Odeon 1979 - it looks like the best version. DQA version is more complete, but looks worse.

Sao Paolo 81 - looks better then my version.

josedequeso wrote:

pittrek wrote: Buenos Aires looks great. There is one version with a better picture, but cropped to 16:9 from Snow Producciones.

I say to hell with Snow Producciones! :P In my opinion this is the best version of this video.

pittrek wrote: Hyde Park - I don't remember my copy being so dark, but I can be wrong.

I’m not sure about this version, I got my copy from The Traders Den, the screenshots are from the night portion of the show, maybe that’s why it’s so dark.

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith Odeon 1975 - if it is from the "Christmas Eve at Hammersmith"" bootleg, it's the best "commonly available" version, but not the best existing.

Yep, “Christmas Eve at Hammersmith” is my version, I got mine through a trade. I know it was shared here but apparently that version is corrupt based on the comments I’ve read in that thread. But what do you mean by "best existing"? Is the better version circulating or just known to exist?

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith Odeon 1979 - it looks like the best version. DQA version is more complete, but looks worse.

I don’t know about this video. I hope there’s an upgrade out there. I got this one again through a trade, the DQA version is listed on Bob’s site as being the best available. I’ve never seen the DQA version, so I can’t comment on that.

pittrek wrote: Tokyo 79 - looks better then my version

I dunno, I guess mine’s the best version, it’s NTSC, just under 1 GB. That’s good for only 24 minutes of footage.

I have London 11-19/20-74 and the QTV versions of Paris 3-01-79 and Caracas 9-27-81 coming in, so I’ll post some screens when I get those as well. The Caracas version I have now is the one that Marknow shared here, which is lossy. I don’t think the Rainbow 74 video can be included in this vine since it’s official.

YourValentine wrote: Sao Paolo - could you give us some more info, for example file size?

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: No way... that's definitely lossy. 24 minutes should be about 2Gb if it's lossless. I've got the same copy. On my widescreen TV, the picture looks very digitized and grainy.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Ideally, we'll need a lossless copy of this and The Champions documentary, because there are a few clips from this show on there as well: Now I'm Here, band intro, BoRhap, Sheer Heart Attack, WWRY (different angles), and God Save The Queen.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I've got a nice compilation of this one from two or three sources. It'd be great if someone could synch the better audio to it!

pittrek wrote: I am searching for a copy of Paris 1st March 79 which looks comparable to link I have only a version of Smitty's project, which looks much worse and Snow Producciones's version which I don't want to comment :-)

pittrek wrote: Hm, maybe add the 16 camera version of Budapest ? Or the full version of the Tribute concert ? Or Ro ck In Rio ?

g_pretender wrote:

Gym Bitch wrote: It would be easier to do it on Rapidshare and change the password every once in a while to keep out the mp3 riff-raff.

What do you mean by this? ELECTRONIC TRADING IS BOTH FASTER AND CHEAPER, AND THE FIRST DOWNLOADED FILES CAN BE CHECKED WITH A SPECTRAL ANALYZER BEFORE THE TRADE IS FULLY COMPLETED.

Gym Bitch wrote: 1 - Overseas shipping sometimes takes 3 weeks or more. 2 - Shipments within the same continent (but between different counties) takes longer than a week. 3 - Shipments sometimes get lost / stolen in the mail. 4 - Shipments sometimes get damaged in the mail. 5 - A few people will accept the package, but not continue the vine (and not answer e-mails). 6 - Some people need to be reminded to burn and mail the package within one week's time to keep the vine moving.

That's all good and true, but how do you yhink stuff got passed along in the old days, before the internet and broadband connections? By the way I have shipped stuff overseas and it doesn´t take three weeks. I don't know If you're aware of a prety good invention called the airplane. SORRY - IN MY BOOTLRG TREE FROM A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WERE SEVERAL TIMES THIS OCCURRED. Is it too much to ask that people actualy put a little effort in getting this stuff, instead of just point and click? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THIS PHRASE?: "WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER" SHIPPING CD'S/DVD'S IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY WHEN SENDING THESE ELECTRONICALLY IS FASTER, SAFER AND CHEAPER.

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith 75 is (almost) done. I have no problem to synching the rest if someone gives me the "assets"

josedequeso wrote: Mike Van: Queenzone's answer to a question no one asked. Let the big-boy traders do our thing here, and you go sit at the kiddie's table. Do you have something positive to contribute to this discussion mike? If not, get lost. You have no business here. Mike, you are the one that said that mp3s should be allowed, to accommodate those with a slow internet connection, how do you suppose they get these dvds if they are only available via the internet? And of course, you're not going to respond to my question, you'll just reply with something completely off topic and irrelevant.

josedequeso wrote: Mike Van: Queenzone's answer to a question no one asked. Let the big-boy traders do our thing here, and you go sit at the kiddie's table. Do you have something positive to contribute to this discussion mike? If not, get lost. You have no business here. Mike, you are the one that said that mp3s should be allowed, to accommodate those with a slow internet connection, how do you suppose they get these dvds if they are only available via the internet? And of course, you're not going to respond to my question, you'll just reply with something completely off topic and irrelevant.

pittrek wrote: Hammersmith 75 is (almost) done. I have no problem to synching the rest if someone gives me the "assets"

Cool, I'm looking forward to it :) I'm not exactly sure what is the best audio available, I only have the "sanity clause" version.

josedequeso wrote: Mike, you are the one that said that mp3s should be allowed, to accommodate those with a slow internet connection, how do you suppose they get these dvds if they are only available via the internet? And of course, you're not going to respond to my question, you'll just reply with something completely off topic and irrelevant.

Gym Bitch wrote: However, I still suggest that you consider having some or most people download the concerts (if possible) to save your time (and your own sanity).

Gym Bitch wrote: If you create two vines (North America and Europe) and 25 people enroll in each vine, you could still be running these two vines one year from now.

YourValentine wrote: From Tokyo 79 there is an alternative DVD on the Wardour Package "Pride And Joy" (4 CDs plus bonus DVD). This pressed DVD comes from the same source (TV) as the previously posted version with the title menu but it has no menu. It does have stereo sound instead of the mpeg sound of the above copy but there is a certain tape noise. The file size is 2,13 GB.

YourValentine wrote: Well, I did not read in the newspaper about it :)

dobo wrote: Anything on this?

pittrek wrote:

dobo wrote: Anything on this?

A pretty good question ! Joe ????

josedequeso wrote:

pittrek wrote:

dobo wrote: Anything on this?

A pretty good question ! Joe ????

Ha! That made my day, you know my name! I'm so used to people calling me Jose. Well, I'm just waiting for some confirmation on the best available sources. I'd love to have a set of discs out soon. Bob mentioned he has a compilation from the Sao Paolo 81, just needs some lossless audio synched to it. The same goes for Buenos Aires dvd, I tried to synch the audio from the ’84 FM rebroadcast to it and it worked pretty well, I just don't have the necessary software. YV has the Tokyo 4-25-79 DVD in what sounds like very good quality, so if she would like to contribute either by sharing it or mailing anyone of us a copy, that would be great. Some small updates for everyone: my copy of Paris 79 is lossless and my copy of the Champions DVD is nearly lossless. (just has a bad audio bitrate) Pittrek can you send me an email please? Thanks, address in profile.