| Saint Jiub 12.11.2007 22:55 |
... from lossless 2nd generation source. This link is dead: link cd1: link cd2: link If anyone is interested, I can dig up the lossless CD-R's from my basement, and upload them in flac. |
| seba_979 12.11.2007 22:59 |
Thank You.! |
| Torsten 13.11.2007 01:09 |
.. lossless version in the basement? Please share with us.... |
| Serry... 13.11.2007 01:36 |
You're the brave man, Mike! |
| PBB 13.11.2007 02:37 |
Thank you but I allready have an mp3 version. And upgrade would be nice :-) Thanks. |
| pittrek 13.11.2007 02:39 |
Gym Bitch wrote: ... from lossless 2nd generation source. link If anyone is interested, I can dig up the lossless CD-R's from my basement, and upload them in flac.Of course "somebody" would be interested in a lossless version :) |
| Penetration_Guru 13.11.2007 02:39 |
Gym Bitch wrote: ... from lossless ...source.I wonder how TOP sees this as useful information |
| pow wow 13.11.2007 03:08 |
Olive branch accepted but lossless would be appreciated. Cheers. |
| mogiggymo 13.11.2007 03:29 |
This is a great show one of the best if it's 2nd generation we would love to hear the lossless version please |
| Nummer2 13.11.2007 03:38 |
Thank you for the offer, I'd really appreciate the lossless version. |
| onevsion 13.11.2007 08:25 |
Gym Bitch wrote: ... If anyone is interested, I can dig up the lossless CD-R's from my basement, and upload them in flac.Interested! |
| Queenrockyou 13.11.2007 11:26 |
Every real lossless show shared it is a treasure for everyone... I'm waiting for this ! Regards, Olivier, France. |
| The Real Wizard 13.11.2007 11:55 |
If you have the lossless version, and you're even offering to upload it, then just upload that and only that! How asinine. |
| Sithmarauder 13.11.2007 16:20 |
I'm downloading this to hear the show, but FLAC would be much appreciated. Otherwise, thank you for sharing. |
| Saint Jiub 14.11.2007 00:55 |
I am fairly sure that this concert was not converted from mp3, but I am not absolutely certain ... Therefore, I am uploading only one song so as to not waste too much of anyone's time if this concert turns out to be a dud. Also, I think it would be pointless to upload the whole concert if it were obvious that there is a better quality lossless version that could be readily available. link The song is We are the Champions and contains the line: "and bad mistakes (like the piano) I've made a few" So I believe that this song can be easily verified as being from the 82-08-13 Chicago concert. Could several people please use a spectral analyzer to verify that this song is lossless? Also can someone recommend a freedownload for an easy to use spectral analyzer so that I (or anyone else) can also verify that this concert is lossless. |
| Saint Jiub 14.11.2007 01:23 |
P_G - I looked up "TOP" in abbreviations.com, and there were about 50 different meanings. Does it mean "Top One percent"? Please let me know what it means. |
| pittrek 14.11.2007 02:16 |
It looks pretty lossless to me |
| YourValentine 14.11.2007 03:14 |
Yes, it is lossles, Mike. You can check the wav with Exact Audio Copy which is a free programme. Create a wav file with FlacFrontend or another converter first. Open EAV, go to tools and choose "process wav" Select the wav file and wait for it to load. A new window opens In the new window choose "frequency analysis" You get the graphic I attached. When a file is mp3 sourced, the curve will drop abruptly at 16000 Hz which is not the case in this file. |
| YourValentine 14.11.2007 03:30 |
Here is an example for a wav file that was created from an mp3. |
| Cygnus X-1 14.11.2007 06:40 |
it would be a nice move from you if you could share it lossless! |
| Mr. Bulsara 14.11.2007 12:03 |
Hello. Can you re-upload the file ? the link is dead. Thank you |
| YourValentine 14.11.2007 12:38 |
From the Cologne 79 thread
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Nope, it's gone. I guess enough of us complained to megaupload, saying it was "copyright infringement". :)We can assume that Bob and some of his friends denounced this share at megaupload. I am really waiting to see if they have the guts to post here and admit it. |
| Nummer2 14.11.2007 12:56 |
YV? Is it really you? I think, Bob and "his friends" clearly see the difference between this upload and the Cologne incident. This time it wasn't an assault, but an rather intelligent action to evaluate the situation. Wasn't it? No need to write something malicious. |
| Cygnus X-1 14.11.2007 13:21 |
I think no one would do that. Can't believe someone thinking this way..... |
| YourValentine 14.11.2007 13:52 |
If it was a single action I won't say another word - although Mike deleted his post himself in the Cologne thread and it was unnecessary to notify the file sharer about "copyright infringement". It's now the second time his upload was deleted due to violation of use, so it's not far fetched to assume he was denounced again. I wish it's not true. As yet the QZ community always was still a community, no matter how bitter the arguments were. I hope it stays that way. |
| fernandosales 14.11.2007 18:49 |
I think Sir GH was just kidding.... |
| Saint Jiub 14.11.2007 20:30 |
I added two new download links for CD1 and CD2 on my initial mp3 post. I want to play a computer game tonight that requires all my computer memory, and I do not want to undertake the effort of uploading a series of large flac files, and find out later that these links have been deleted. Perhaps, it will be safe (no fear of links deletion) to upload this Chicago concert in flac sometime soon. |
| Queenrockyou 15.11.2007 04:13 |
YourValentine, Thanks a lot if you consider myself as Bob's friend only because I prefer FLAC to MP3, nice from you, but I don't know his own point of view about that. Well, I think you maybe are a little bitter or something to say that sort of thing. For my part, I won't denounce him because he shared mp3... I will just feel sad, but that's all. In that precise case, the lossless files have been announced soon, so I don't mind, it is a great move, and very happy news. So I won't find useful to annoy the uploader with this. Even if I find somewhat logical that the mp3 links are deleted if the Flac files are due to be uploaded, to avoid anyone using the mp3 files if the Flac files are available and blah blah blah... But it is not my problem, nor I think it is Bob's one, I mean he may feel sad that mp3 was already shared and not the Flac at the first time (I think we all can feel this way if you take into account the "preserving music" side of the Flac thing), but hey, I can't imagine myself or someone denouncing someone about copyright, I think Bob for example is too precise in its terms to do such a move. But it is my own opinion. I somewhat felt annoyed when I read your message, it is a sort of an attack to me somewhere (as a Flac defender), thinking that the "... and his friends" could be me. I'm quite honest and clear with my consciousness, I know I didn't, but I'm beginning to feel like I have leprosy. Just to reaffirm something, prefering Flac is just wanting to share files without altering music, that's all, it's not a sort of extremist move or something, the goal is not to destroy every mp3 share, it is that people stop mp3 sharing by themselves, nothing else ! Well, I just wanted to tell you that, hoping that no confusion was made by you or anyone else. As far as Gym Bitch (or whoever he is) is concerned, well I hope he had a good time with his computer game, and hope he won in the end !! Don't feel attacked, and feel free to share your Flac files when you want it to! Try to avoid mp3 files when you can offer Flac, and see you next on Queenzone with your Flac files, I really would like to listen to these files :o) Have a happy time, you gamer and Queenzoner... and remember, there can be only one... Kill 'Em All ! Olivier, France. |
| Cygnus X-1 15.11.2007 05:07 |
ruth.olivier wrote: As far as Gym Bitch (or whoever he is) is concerned, well I hope he had a good time with his computer game, and hope he won in the end !! Don't feel attacked, and feel free to share your Flac files when you want it to! Try to avoid mp3 files when you can offer Flac, and see you next on Queenzone with your Flac files, I really would like to listen to these files :o)Great post, I was actually shocked when I read YV's post. This ain't a damn war between Mp3 vs. Flac supporters. Everybody explained their point of view, and it is nice to see that one of the "Mp3 people" offers a lossless share. Flac supporters ain't terrorists. It's only the music that counts.... |
| on my way up 15.11.2007 05:24 |
Cygnus X-1 wrote:Indeed, and we want to hear the music in the best quality possible. Our goal should be to seek out all the master tapes and spread copy's of those. then we would be a true sharing community. Like zeppelin en floyd fans have.ruth.olivier wrote: As far as Gym Bitch (or whoever he is) is concerned, well I hope he had a good time with his computer game, and hope he won in the end !! Don't feel attacked, and feel free to share your Flac files when you want it to! Try to avoid mp3 files when you can offer Flac, and see you next on Queenzone with your Flac files, I really would like to listen to these files :o)Great post, I was actually shocked when I read YV's post. This ain't a damn war between Mp3 vs. Flac supporters. Everybody explained their point of view, and it is nice to see that one of the "Mp3 people" offers a lossless share. Flac supporters ain't terrorists. It's only the music that counts.... I would even say that in the end it is also a good thing for Queen themselves to only spread good quality material and not mp3 because a performance can only be heard well and thus judged well when the quality is as good as possible. Good compared to good + or very good - makes a difference! |
| The Real Wizard 15.11.2007 10:04 |
YourValentine wrote: We can assume that Bob and some of his friends denounced this share at megaupload. I am really waiting to see if they have the guts to post here and admit it.Hmm, I actually take it as a compliment if you think I have some control over what people think and do. But more seriously, it has nothing to do with who is friends with whom. It is about who thinks the quality of music should be preserved, and who thinks it shouldn't. As I've said many times before... technology is making the rules... not me. YourValentine wrote: As yet the QZ community always was still a community, no matter how bitter the arguments were. I hope it stays that way.Absolutely. Queenzone has become a community (mostly) of people who support the sharing of high quality music. I hope it stays that way. |
| Serry... 15.11.2007 11:04 |
"Queenzone has become a community (mostly) of people who support the sharing of high quality music." You made my day with that joke! Nice one... How about "the FLAC supporters killed Hitler"? Oh God... |
| Nummer2 15.11.2007 11:11 |
"Queenzone has become a community (mostly) of people who support the sharing of high quality music." Hmmmm ... I guess that's a bit overstated. Let's hope, QZ goes toward that direction, but there are lots of people as much interested in Freddie's last picture, the necessarity of the 14th release of the 1981 Montreal show and Roger's sex tape. |
| Sithmarauder 15.11.2007 12:47 |
Gym Bitch wrote: P_G - I looked up "TOP" in abbreviations.com, and there were about 50 different meanings. Does it mean "Top One percent"? Please let me know what it means.or "THE OTHER PEOPLE"? |
| The Real Wizard 15.11.2007 15:35 |
Nummer2 wrote: "Queenzone has become a community (mostly) of people who support the sharing of high quality music." Hmmmm ... I guess that's a bit overstated. Let's hope, QZ goes toward that direction, but there are lots of people as much interested in Freddie's last picture, the necessarity of the 14th release of the 1981 Montreal show and Roger's sex tape.Of course I'm talking about the file community, and not including the teenagers in the personal forum. |
| Queenrockyou 15.11.2007 16:56 |
Quite agree with Bob and co, when you don't read the "teenagers" posts, there are some interesting things here on Queenzone, most of it the "share" side, it is a good community, with the usual tantrums here and there, and myabe love stories here and there, the extremes of the human feelings. For my part, I like Penetration Guru posts and his sarcasm, Bob's technical opinions, Maruga or you sharing torrents from mediafire links and other doing the other way... Some names became synonimous to the Queenzone I like to see or read. So I think it became a community, for everyone who comes on Queenzone more than once a month. We made do with these tantrums and good sides, and if we can continue to keep the community balance as it is AND improve it, making it evolve to adapt to the technology, the "outside world", the fans needs and everything that goes with it, then let's go ! Queenzone will never be the PERFECT place on Earth, but it could be near from perfect if we move a little, that's xhat I think and try to say (sorry but I'm not always happy with my english with it's late!). Cheers, Take care everyone! Olivier, France. |
| YourValentine 15.11.2007 17:29 |
@ Olivier Strange that you feel attacked by me, I did not mention your name. I asked Richard about his opinion in this matter and he said he does not mind which format is shared. He said that mp3 is perfectly okay with him I hope you respect the wishes of the website owner and stop sabotaging the mp3 shares of long time QZ users. You don't need to download them. |
| Saint Jiub 15.11.2007 23:15 |
I intend to upload the entire flac version of Chicago '82 this weekend. I will not punish those who are waiting for this concert in Flac, because of the deletion of mp3 links by a few hardline flac'ers. |
| Saint Jiub 15.11.2007 23:22 |
ruth.olivier wrote: YourValentine, Even if I find somewhat logical that the mp3 links are deletedRuth - Why do you think that censoring mp3 links is logical or acceptable? Have you no tolerance for minorities expressing themselves? |
| Serry... 15.11.2007 23:52 |
YourValentine wrote: I asked Richard about his opinion in this matter and he said he does not mind which format is shared. He said that mp3 is perfectly okay with him I hope you respect the wishes of the website owner and stop sabotaging the mp3 shares of long time QZ users. You don't need to download them.So no further actions will be taken... Take the garrotte off, Serry! |
| pittrek 16.11.2007 02:07 |
Gym Bitch wrote:As I wrote many, many times, dividing this forum into 2 forums - lossless and mp3 would solve this problem democratically and forever, people who like quality would visit the flac forum, and people who only want to "download something Queen-related" would visit the mp3 forum.ruth.olivier wrote: YourValentine, Even if I find somewhat logical that the mp3 links are deletedRuth - Why do you think that censoring mp3 links is logical or acceptable? Have you no tolerance for minorities expressing themselves? BTW why are suddenly people who like "preservation" and "quality" treated like criminals ? |
| YourValentine 16.11.2007 02:32 |
"BTW why are suddenly people who like "preservation" and "quality" treated like criminals ?" They are not. It's the fans who blow the whistle on another fan who are criticized. Can't you see how dangerous this behaviour is for all of us sharers? Next time someone complains about the QZ tracker, what happens then? Don't you know how easily someone's reputation and name can be destroyed on the internet? A few emails here and there ... do you really want Queen fans to act that way against each other because they disagree on the format of a shared file on a website which belongs to another fan who does allow sharing this format? I cannot believe the ingratitude of these people I notice that Bob did not deny he leads this action. |
| Queenrockyou 16.11.2007 04:48 |
Hi Gym Bitch, "Ruth - Why do you think that censoring mp3 links is logical or acceptable? Have you no tolerance for minorities expressing themselves? " You know what I mean, if I am a Flac and quality defender, I would have find this logical if you had deleted your mp3 links because you wanted to share flac files. It would have stop the mp3 (lower quality) to be shared, in charge of every queenzoner to transform the Flac files into mp3 afterwards for their own use. I'm sure you know I don't think about intolerance when I say that. I'm not attacking you. Just that if you were going to share Flac, I would not be surprised if yo uhad deleted your own mp" links. That's what I wanted to say. I was thinking about you censoring yourself if you prefer ! regards, Olivier, France. |
| MDNA 16.11.2007 07:23 |
CD 1 is gone from mediafire, CD 2 is still up though. If someone is reporting these files as copirighted to the servers, please stop. it is childish amd imature behaviour, and not the best way to get your point across. I'm all for preserving quality, but you have to draw the line somewhere. By the way I too agree that it is reasonable to expect the original uploader to delete his own file if a superior version is to be shared. It just makes no sense keeping the inferior version arround in that cenario. |
| The Real Wizard 17.11.2007 00:33 |
YourValentine wrote: I notice that Bob did not deny he leads this action.I didn't realize I was required to defend myself. No, I had nothing to do with it. Generally speaking, I do what I think is right, based on my own beliefs, and the success that similar actions have brought to other trading communities. Like I said in the other thread, I'd appreciate it if you didn't label me as the enemy because I believe every recording should be spread in its best possible quality, and with the lineage passed along. I'm sorry if this process of taking care of recordings offends you for some reason. |