Stoner 11.11.2007 04:30 |
I read the article (its a long one but very refreshing and interesting to read) and I'd love to believe every word M.V. Ahundova or whatever his name has written. Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal. We've just collectively been brain washed in this society to believe that it is normal and OK. But not me. I am not easily persuaded into believing something just because it seems to be the mainstream way to be or think. Some people like to think on their own and quit believing everything that the media or society in general tells them to believe. There are alot of people like this and they are not prudes or religious bigots. Some of them aren't even religious at all. I know people are going to bash this post and say I'm a homophobe or I hate the homosexual lifestyle. Yeah maybe so! So what if I am? How many times have I been bashed by people I deal with everyday at work because I don't go along with just any little thing? Because I don't get drunk every Friday night or take drugs, and I don't ever feel the need for incessant chit chat in the work place, heh! People just can't tolerate that about me and tell me I should change and be more "outgoing". LOL!!!!!! But yet I can't say anything about their lifestyle because that would be called "intolerance". Anyway, why would anyone want to believe that someone they supposedly admire is a homosexual and led that kind of wild and raucus lifestyle? Some people seem to relish in this idea... and wouldn't want to believe anything else about Freddie Mercury as if it was OK for him to be this way. Well it wasn't. That is if it was true! This article (book?) certainly brought home some things to ponder on. Good for you, M.V. Ahundova it's about time somebody showed some deep thought on this subject. For myself I love Queen and their music. Freddie was a beautiful looking specimen of a human being. God he was gorgeous..... But the supposed lifestyle he lead especially in his last years gives me the creeps. That's why I said in another post that he had a dark, death aura around him. He was strangely attractive, yet somehow repulsive. I have been in alot of ways repulsed by Freddie Mercury, even by his looks. Now I know that it's because of all the crap I've read or listened to about him. Because being a fan I naturally wanted to know everything I could find out. It's very weird how even a person's physical appearance changes depending upon how they are perceived to live their life. Maybe all of it is bullshit. I hope so. Freddie Mercury didn't need that kind of lifestyle to be fabulous. People would have loved him the same, and most people even more so if they hadn't believed all that crap. Wasn't his outlandish stage performances enough? Well for myself I want to believe it was all just an act! After reading this article I started to see him in a different light. Even if all the nasty things we read or heard about him are true (If we're honest we know in our hearts not even half of it can be true, and especially NOTHING in Jim Hutton's book....which I have not read...because Jim Hutton just looks like a filthy, lying creep), I can now look at Freddie Mercury and think of him as a different person. A person who could have lived a mild and respectable life. A true showman who shone like the brightest star when he was onstage but when he was alone with himself, was a quiet and gentle man who thought pure and lovely thoughts and dreamed of a family of his own. What's wrong with that? And why would anyone really want to believe anything else? |
ANAGRAMER 11.11.2007 05:10 |
shticky wrote: I read the article (its a long one but very refreshing and interesting to read) and I'd love to believe every word M.V. Ahundova or whatever his name has written. Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal. We've just collectively been brain washed in this society to believe that it is normal and OK. But not me. I am not easily persuaded into believing something just because it seems to be the mainstream way to be or think. Some people like to think on their own and quit believing everything that the media or society in general tells them to believe. There are alot of people like this and they are not prudes or religious bigots. Some of them aren't even religious at all. I know people are going to bash this post and say I'm a homophobe or I hate the homosexual lifestyle. Yeah maybe so! So what if I am? How many times have I been bashed by people I deal with everyday at work because I don't go along with just any little thing? Because I don't get drunk every Friday night or take drugs, and I don't ever feel the need for incessant chit chat in the work place, heh! People just can't tolerate that about me and tell me I should change and be more "outgoing". LOL!!!!!! But yet I can't say anything about their lifestyle because that would be called "intolerance". Anyway, why would anyone want to believe that someone they supposedly admire is a homosexual and led that kind of wild and raucus lifestyle? Some people seem to relish in this idea... and wouldn't want to believe anything else about Freddie Mercury as if it was OK for him to be this way. Well it wasn't. That is if it was true! This article (book?) certainly brought home some things to ponder on. Good for you, M.V. Ahundova it's about time somebody showed some deep thought on this subject. For myself I love Queen and their music. Freddie was a beautiful looking specimen of a human being. God he was gorgeous..... But the supposed lifestyle he lead especially in his last years gives me the creeps. That's why I said in another post that he had a dark, death aura around him. He was strangely attractive, yet somehow repulsive. I have been in alot of ways repulsed by Freddie Mercury, even by his looks. Now I know that it's because of all the crap I've read or listened to about him. Because being a fan I naturally wanted to know everything I could find out. It's very weird how even a person's physical appearance changes depending upon how they are perceived to live their life. Maybe all of it is bullshit. I hope so. Freddie Mercury didn't need that kind of lifestyle to be fabulous. People would have loved him the same, and most people even more so if they hadn't believed all that crap. Wasn't his outlandish stage performances enough? Well for myself I want to believe it was all just an act! After reading this article I started to see him in a different light. Even if all the nasty things we read or heard about him are true (If we're honest we know in our hearts not even half of it can be true, and especially NOTHING in Jim Hutton's book....which I have not read...because Jim Hutton just looks like a filthy, lying creep), I can now look at Freddie Mercury and think of him as a different person. A person who could have lived a mild and respectable life. A true showman who shone like the brightest star when he was onstage but when he was alone with himself, was a quiet and gentle man who thought pure and lovely thoughts and dreamed of a family of his own. What's wrong with that? And why would anyone really want to believe anything else? What gives you, or anybody else, the right to make moral judgements on people you don't know? Fair enough, be homophobic, I don't like snakes, rats, dung-beetles or homophobes, but I'd rather keep that to myself. |
Stoner 11.11.2007 06:14 |
ANAGRAMER wrote:Yeah right! You can't keep it to yourself because you just proved it! Everytime someone says the least negative thing about homosexuality you are going to speak up because you can't resist!shticky wrote: I Fair enough, be homophobic, I don't like snakes, rats, dung-beetles or homophobes, but I'd rather keep that to myself. There are far more noble and wholesome things to speak up about. But I'm willing to bet you'll keep silent about those. |
Serry... 11.11.2007 08:12 |
Oh no, please no more of that bullshit on QZ. It's like sharing mp3s, someone should call for the traders and police! I've had enough of those discussions on Russian Queen forums and all those lovely arguements like "Peter Freestone is a liar! - Why? - His face looks like he's a pig, Serry!" P.S. Supporters of Ahundova have tried for few months to prove me that Back Chat was written by Freddie about journalists, that he couldn't be in NY during the Princess Diana wedding, because he was recording Hot Space in Montreux (though recordings have started for about 2-3 months after that wedding) and that everything was done by Freddie was against of homosexuals. Peter, Jim, doctor Atkinson were involved in killing of Freddie - they're part of the 'gay mafia'. And besides that Freddie has died because of cancer. Brian is involved in hiding truth too. This is not irony, this is what they actually believe in. Bobby_Brown would ask to ban such guys... |
magicalfreddiemercury 11.11.2007 10:45 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal.Obsessing about it is abnormal. Judging others is dishonorable. My Mini Mercury wrote: What's wrong with that? And why would anyone really want to believe anything else?Because for most of us "once upon a time" and "happily ever after" got old a long time ago. |
Treasure Moment 11.11.2007 11:09 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: I read the article (its a long one but very refreshing and interesting to read) and I'd love to believe every word M.V. Ahundova or whatever his name has written. Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal. We've just collectively been brain washed in this society to believe that it is normal and OK. But not me. I am not easily persuaded into believing something just because it seems to be the mainstream way to be or think. Some people like to think on their own and quit believing everything that the media or society in general tells them to believe. There are alot of people like this and they are not prudes or religious bigots. Some of them aren't even religious at all. I know people are going to bash this post and say I'm a homophobe or I hate the homosexual lifestyle. Yeah maybe so! So what if I am? How many times have I been bashed by people I deal with everyday at work because I don't go along with just any little thing? Because I don't get drunk every Friday night or take drugs, and I don't ever feel the need for incessant chit chat in the work place, heh! People just can't tolerate that about me and tell me I should change and be more "outgoing". LOL!!!!!! But yet I can't say anything about their lifestyle because that would be called "intolerance". Anyway, why would anyone want to believe that someone they supposedly admire is a homosexual and led that kind of wild and raucus lifestyle? Some people seem to relish in this idea... and wouldn't want to believe anything else about Freddie Mercury as if it was OK for him to be this way. Well it wasn't. That is if it was true! This article (book?) certainly brought home some things to ponder on. Good for you, M.V. Ahundova it's about time somebody showed some deep thought on this subject. For myself I love Queen and their music. Freddie was a beautiful looking specimen of a human being. God he was gorgeous..... But the supposed lifestyle he lead especially in his last years gives me the creeps. That's why I said in another post that he had a dark, death aura around him. He was strangely attractive, yet somehow repulsive. I have been in alot of ways repulsed by Freddie Mercury, even by his looks. Now I know that it's because of all the crap I've read or listened to about him. Because being a fan I naturally wanted to know everything I could find out. It's very weird how even a person's physical appearance changes depending upon how they are perceived to live their life. Maybe all of it is bullshit. I hope so. Freddie Mercury didn't need that kind of lifestyle to be fabulous. People would have loved him the same, and most people even more so if they hadn't believed all that crap. Wasn't his outlandish stage performances enough? Well for myself I want to believe it was all just an act! After reading this article I started to see him in a different light. Even if all the nasty things we read or heard about him are true (If we're honest we know in our hearts not even half of it can be true, and especially NOTHING in Jim Hutton's book....which I have not read...because Jim Hutton just looks like a filthy, lying creep), I can now look at Freddie Mercury and think of him as a different person. A person who could have lived a mild and respectable life. A true showman who shone like the brightest star when he was onstage but when he was alone with himself, was a quiet and gentle man who thought pure and lovely thoughts and dreamed of a family of his own. What's wrong with that? And why would anyone really want to believe anything else?you are a stupid low being, shut the fuck up and DIE!! freddie was gay because its a genetic thing, thats what he was, he didnt choose it you ignorant fucking moron |
junketerQ2 11.11.2007 16:55 |
Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!! |
Lester Burnham 11.11.2007 17:28 |
junketerQ2 wrote: Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!Yes, I can only imagine a 16 year old boy sitting in his room, wondering why he feels so confused about the girls that he likes, knowing that he SHOULD like girls yet doesn't, and deciding that he wants to undergo years of anxiety for cloaking his true sexual identity, then when he finally does come out with his "decision", being subjected to endless name-calling and ignorance from his friends, family, and society in general. Oh, not to mention the whole anal sex thing. That's a definite deal-breaker when it comes to someone deciding he wants to be gay. |
Stoner 11.11.2007 17:43 |
junketerQ2 wrote: Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!It's true. I know this sounds cliche but being a pedophile is a choice too. Being a pervert is a choice. Being a rapist is a choice. Being a homosexual is a choice. Being a thief or bank robber is a choice. Or maybe it is all genetic? Doesn't make it right, anyhow. What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice? Well, I have a choice and I don't care if you call me a homophobe. It doesn't bother me in the least, because I'm fully aware of the depraved world I live in. And by the way, I don't care for alot of rules either, before anyone goes calling me a stiff prude. I'm kind of rebellious at heart. But that doesn't stop me from knowing right from wrong. I'm still going to have fun. At the end of the day, after a wonderful fun filled day at work I'm still gonna eat dinner with a nice glass of cabernet. |
PlanetMercury15 11.11.2007 18:07 |
Okay even if someone is gay that is their business and that's between them and God it's not for us to judge only God can judge and someone's religion/sexuality/whatever does not make them as a person biblical rules, etc. are for you to follow not for you to enforce on others unless they ask you for help in becoming the religion you are or ask you for information or your opinion his lifestyle had nothing to do with the good things he did in life and his talents and accomplishments so just look at the good things he did |
Dusta 11.11.2007 18:15 |
Good post. I have had many friends tell me that, had they HAD a choice, they'd have chosen differently, because of what they've had to go through, as gay individuals, in this society.
And, I watched it happen. I watched some of them get beaten up, almost daily, as nine year old boys, because they were effeminate, or, different. I watched them get beaten by their fathers, for the same reason. I saw them mocked and humiliated. All of this happened before SEX was even a factor in their lives. How does a child make a lifestyle choice?
Lester Burnham wrote:junketerQ2 wrote: Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!Yes, I can only imagine a 16 year old boy sitting in his room, wondering why he feels so confused about the girls that he likes, knowing that he SHOULD like girls yet doesn't, and deciding that he wants to undergo years of anxiety for cloaking his true sexual identity, then when he finally does come out with his "decision", being subjected to endless name-calling and ignorance from his friends, family, and society in general. Oh, not to mention the whole anal sex thing. That's a definite deal-breaker when it comes to someone deciding he wants to be gay. |
Dusta 11.11.2007 18:25 |
Does this person truly believe that one cannot have a, "wild and raucus lifestyle," if one is not gay? |
Dan C. 11.11.2007 18:45 |
Dusta wrote: Does this person truly believe that one cannot have a, "wild and raucus lifestyle," if one is not gay?Well that'd just be ridiculous, Dusta. Only those horrible, disgusting, child-molesting gays could do something so dishonorable. My Mini Mercury's just a stupid cunt anyway. Go blow. |
Treasure Moment 11.11.2007 19:13 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:WOW! you are EXTREMELY stupid! just so you knowjunketerQ2 wrote: Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!It's true. I know this sounds cliche but being a pedophile is a choice too. Being a pervert is a choice. Being a rapist is a choice. Being a homosexual is a choice. Being a thief or bank robber is a choice. Or maybe it is all genetic? Doesn't make it right, anyhow. What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice? Well, I have a choice and I don't care if you call me a homophobe. It doesn't bother me in the least, because I'm fully aware of the depraved world I live in. And by the way, I don't care for alot of rules either, before anyone goes calling me a stiff prude. I'm kind of rebellious at heart. But that doesn't stop me from knowing right from wrong. I'm still going to have fun. At the end of the day, after a wonderful fun filled day at work I'm still gonna eat dinner with a nice glass of cabernet. |
Lester Burnham 11.11.2007 19:42 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:Being ignorant is a choice too. Why do you choose to be ignorant?junketerQ2 wrote: Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!It's true. I know this sounds cliche but being a pedophile is a choice too. Being a pervert is a choice. Being a rapist is a choice. Being a homosexual is a choice. Being a thief or bank robber is a choice. Or maybe it is all genetic? Doesn't make it right, anyhow. What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice? Well, I have a choice and I don't care if you call me a homophobe. It doesn't bother me in the least, because I'm fully aware of the depraved world I live in. And by the way, I don't care for alot of rules either, before anyone goes calling me a stiff prude. I'm kind of rebellious at heart. But that doesn't stop me from knowing right from wrong. I'm still going to have fun. At the end of the day, after a wonderful fun filled day at work I'm still gonna eat dinner with a nice glass of cabernet. |
Dusta 11.11.2007 19:58 |
Why, indeed?
Lester Burnham wrote:My Mini Mercury wrote:Being ignorant is a choice too. Why do you choose to be ignorant?junketerQ2 wrote: Sorry, but being gay is definitely a lifetsyle choice!!!It's true. I know this sounds cliche but being a pedophile is a choice too. Being a pervert is a choice. Being a rapist is a choice. Being a homosexual is a choice. Being a thief or bank robber is a choice. Or maybe it is all genetic? Doesn't make it right, anyhow. What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice? Well, I have a choice and I don't care if you call me a homophobe. It doesn't bother me in the least, because I'm fully aware of the depraved world I live in. And by the way, I don't care for alot of rules either, before anyone goes calling me a stiff prude. I'm kind of rebellious at heart. But that doesn't stop me from knowing right from wrong. I'm still going to have fun. At the end of the day, after a wonderful fun filled day at work I'm still gonna eat dinner with a nice glass of cabernet. |
magicalfreddiemercury 11.11.2007 20:20 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: What strikes me is how we got from condemning such a thing years ago, to now declaring one a hero if he admits to homosexuality. Could it be that this society we live in is so morally sick and in denial that we have no other choice?Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial. Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not. |
Stoner 11.11.2007 21:35 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial. Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion. And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal. |
Stoner 11.11.2007 21:51 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial. Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.I didn't expect ANYONE on this board to take my side and I was right. Kind of amusing actually. Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion. And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal. Oh.....and because I don't have my own swimming pool I have a very strong desire sometimes to sneak off into my neighbors VERY inviting 9 ft deep swimming pool stark naked for a late night swim. Who could I be hurting? Noone really. Except that's my neighbors property and it's still against the law. There's nothing either I or the nice friendly swimming pool can do about it. So I refrain because I'd rather not be in jail. I'd also like to cut through my neighbors yard as a shortcut to get home when I'm walking sometimes, but I can't do that either. It would be called trespassing. I accept it. When my dog runs through said neighbors yard on occasion, I get much grief over it. They even called the police on me one day because my dog was in their yard. He wasn't doing anything, just laying on their porch because he used to live there (The people who used to live their gave him to me.) But that was ok, we accepted it and he has to stay inside my house when Im gone so he won't go over there. I'm just a little sick and tired of gays in the media and workplace trying to rub their lifestyle off in everyone's face. If you want to do it in private, go ahead. But why try to tell everyone else it's ok? It's human nature to wanna run naked and free. But we do it in private and we are ok with it. So why can't the gays do the same? Nobody can tell you how to live your life. Just do it in private and quit rubbing it in everyone's face. BTW, I fear greatly when I have kids and they have to grow up in a world where sexual immorality and perversion is the norm. It's my duty to teach them otherwise. |
magicalfreddiemercury 11.11.2007 21:57 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.magicalfreddiemercury wrote: Yes, I think it must be that because if you consider other things we condemned years ago - like women voting or blacks and whites sharing the same public space - and how our views have changed, then it could only be because society is sick and in denial. Or, here's a thought, part of society, the part that accepts people for who they are and as equals, has simply matured. Whereas others... have not.Women voting and being born black has got nothing to do with a sexual perversion. And if we must accept people for how they are then why not accept EVERYTHING? Why not accept an underage teenage girl (let's say 14) can have sex with a thirty seven year old man, so long as she's willing? Last time I looked it's still illegal. |
Stoner 11.11.2007 21:59 |
I forgot to mention there was a guy about a year ago who was arrested for public masturbation. Today everyone would consider public masturbation appalling. Yes, even you. But consider 20, maybe 30 years from now when society tells us we have to accept that sort of deviant behavior because, afterall it's not hurting anyone. Sounds sick, huh? Well that's because right now we live in the dark ages and that form of behavior is not acceptable. Someday we will have another societal awakening where we must accept such behavior. Mark my words. |
Stoner 11.11.2007 22:12 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently. A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help. A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. |
LozlanTheMage 11.11.2007 22:45 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help. A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.magicalfreddiemercury wrote:That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently. Yes, gays are a minority. They are oppressed, which leads to the 'disgusting' displays you refer to. It is the nature of the oppressed to seek freedom and equal rights (the struggle for black and gendered rights is fully applicable to the harrowing oppression facing the modern homosexual). Also, let me share a little tale with you. I am bisexual. I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance (I was raised Catholic). The agony I suffered on behalf of my faith and personal values (which at that time were based on that faith) tormented me constantly. Complex rituals were devised to disprove my homosexual attraction. I visited numerous psychologists. I finally was forced to quit my job and slowly, slowly earn an Associates Degree at my local community college. Not exactly the life I had envisioned. Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so on), and evaporated with time and effort. However, I was forced to come to terms with my own bisexuality, a process that is ongoing. I am shamed by my own weakness in this matter. Indeed, I feel the desperate urge to tell you all that I am currently engaged to my girlfriend of five years, that we are fiercely in love and so on. I need you to know this, because I still wage a vicious and largely unresolvable battle with my innate sexuality and the beliefs that were drummed into me as a member of a highly corrosive religion sect (I am, you may have guessed, no longer Catholic). You are upset by homosexuality because it does not fit into your narrow and bigoted view of the world. There is no connection between homosexuality and crimes of any sort; this is the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia, ie molesting children harms the child's psyche for life, whereas sex between two consenting adults is far from life-destroying. In fact, it can prove rather pleasant from time to time. This argument holds true for all the other myriad misleading arguments proposed against homosexuals. It is not like sleeping with a dog, due to the fact that there is mutual affection, potentially love and full human consent involved with the act (rape is another matter that plagues people of any sexuality). It is not like masturbating in public, due to the fact that you are not exposing others to a potentially harmful and abusive |
magicalfreddiemercury 11.11.2007 23:10 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help. A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES.I see what you mean. It's like those in-your-face religious types. You know the ones. Jews who wear a talis, christians with golden crosses around their necks for all the world to see, and muslims kneeling and bowing every few hours. Jew, christian and muslim is what they are AND definitely determines what they DO. Each is a perversion to the other if the other is bigoted. Fortunately, society has less and less tolerance for bigotry. EDIT - LozlanTheMage wrote:Brilliant, Lozlan. Excellent post (in it's entirety).My Mini Mercury wrote:And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority.magicalfreddiemercury wrote: That's where maturity comes into play. It's understanding the difference between who people ARE and what people DO. Not everyone is able to distinguish between the two. Apparently.A black man is a black man. It's WHO HE IS. It has nothing to do with what he DOES unless racial descrimination comes into play, and he finds he can't do everything he wants to do because he feels he is being chastised because of his race, something he can't help. A gay man out of the closet is a gay man. That's who he is and it most definitely determines what he DOES. |
Stoner 12.11.2007 03:50 |
LozlanTheMage wrote:<<And what exactly DOES he do? Does his sexual preference harm you, or indeed anyone? Perhaps you will claim that, yes, homosexuality erodes the fiber of decent god-fearing societies etc. etc. >> YES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING. RUNNING STARK NAKED THROUGH THE STREETS DOESN'T HARM ANYONE EITHER, AT LEAST IN THE SENSE YOUR PUTTING IT. THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, DOES DO GREAT HARM TO OUR SOCIETY. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. DON'T RUB IT IN MY FACE AND MAKE IT YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA TO TELL MY FUTURE CHILDREN "IT'S OK TO BE GAY." Personally I believe that the god-fearing folk who tie gay men to fences and beat them after dragging them behind their pickup-truck are at the heart of my own nation's disgusting amoral decline, but hey, what do I know? Surly two men who love each other is a far more heinous crime than the persecution and death of a hated minority. PEOPLE WHO DO BODILY HARM TO OTHER PEOPLE OR ANIMALS ARE SICK HUMANS. AND THEY AREN'T GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE JUST AS MANY SICKOS OUT THERE WHO CLAIM TO BE GOD FEARING CHRISTIANS AND THEY DO JUST AS MUCH HARM TO OUR SOCIETY. <<Yes, gays are a minority. They are oppressed, which leads to the 'disgusting' displays you refer to. It is the nature of the oppressed to seek freedom and equal rights (the struggle for black and gendered rights is fully applicable to the harrowing oppression facing the modern homosexual). >> NO, IT'S NOT. NOONE CAN CHOOSE THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THEIR GENDER. LIFESTYLE (IE. RUNNING THROUGH THE STREETS NAKED AND SAME SEX KISSING IN PUBLIC)AND GENETICS ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. <<Also, let me share a little tale with you. I am bisexual. >> I ALREADY GUESSED THAT. ONLY I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF YOUR WERE MERELY A BISEXUAL OR A FULL OUT HOMOSEXUAL. THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP. <<I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penance (I was raised Catholic). The agony I suffered on behalf of my faith and personal values (which at that time were based on that faith) tormented me constantly. Complex rituals were devised to disprove my homosexual attraction. I visited numerous psychologists.>> I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND NEED TO SEEK COUNSELING. THIS TALE SOUNDS ALOT LIKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILING ON CNN I SAW A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THERE WERE CONFESSIONS FROM A CONVICTED RAPIST WHO TOLD IN MINUTE DETAIL THE AGONIES HE FACED WHEN NIGHT FELL AND HE COULDN'T RESTRAIN HIMSELF FROM GOING OUT AND FINDING ANOTHER VICTIM TO RAPE. THERE WERE TEARS IN HIS EYES AS HE BEGGED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY. THEN THERE WAS THE CLASSIC CHILD MOLESTER. HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIS APPETITE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. IT WAS IN HIS BLOOD. HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO BE LOCKED UP, BUT HE WAS PLEADING FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY AT THE SAME TIME. <<I finally was forced to quit my job and slowly, slowly earn an Associates Degree at my local community college. Not exactly the life I had envisioned.>> HOW UNFORTUNATE! THIS BRINGS ME TO TEARS... <<Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so on), and evaporated with time and effort. However, I was forced to come to terms with my own bisexuality, a process that is ongoing. I am shamed by my own weakness in this matter. Indeed, I feel the desperate urge to tell you all that I am currently engaged to my girlfriend of five years, that we are fiercely in love |
YourValentine 12.11.2007 04:25 |
Great post, LozlanTheMage. Thank you for opening your heart in order to make people understand what gay people still have to face these days. It's just a shame that your words are totally wasted on the topic starter who rather reads a weirdo like Ahundova. You will never reach such people. |
Micrówave 12.11.2007 12:34 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: Being gay IS dishonorable. It's not normal. Treasure Moment wrote: freddie was gay because its a genetic thing, thats what he was, he didnt choose it you ignorant fucking moronFinally, society has an answer for this often pondered question. And it happened here, on Queenzone. |
Micrówave 12.11.2007 12:38 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: I am bisexual. I am also a suffered of severe, nigh-debilitating Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, kept at bay with a delightful drug cocktail. For the majority of my life I agonized over my own potentiality for homosexuality. I experimented with male friends in my youth, which led me to whip myself with a belt as penanceOkay, way way way too much information there. I was raised catholic as well, but if anyone told me to whip myself, I'd tell them to go f**k themselves. And then I'd wank-off to lesbian porn... again. LozlanTheMage wrote: Gay men tend to catch a great deal of flack from ignorant jackholes who spend their evenings wanking off to lesbian porn.Oops. |
junketerQ2 12.11.2007 16:39 |
Ummmm, ok - what a heated discusssion - lol. Well, I'll just add that Freddie was in a man/woman relationship for some years with Mary Austin & then he decided/chose to end it to live a gay lifestyle - CHOICE!!! |
carboengine 12.11.2007 16:45 |
I had a friend who learned that her mid-twenties son was gay. She could not accept it and went to a lot of PFLAG meetings (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays.) That didn't help unitl someone asked her, "Would you rather he have no love in his life at all?" |
Micrówave 12.11.2007 16:47 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: It's like those in-your-face religious types. You know the ones... muslims kneeling and bowing every few hours.You mean they weren't doing that to me? I feel like such a schmuck now! |
steven 35638 12.11.2007 17:01 |
I enjoyed reading your post, LozlanTheMage. You said what had to be said. |
Lester Burnham 12.11.2007 17:46 |
junketerQ2 wrote: Ummmm, ok - what a heated discusssion - lol. Well, I'll just add that Freddie was in a man/woman relationship for some years with Mary Austin & then he decided/chose to end it to live a gay lifestyle - CHOICE!!!It was his choice to end the relationship, yes, but it was not his choice to suddenly be attracted to men. Judging by how much he loved Mary (and one can tell based on how warmly and fondly he spoke of her over the years), do you think he just woke up one day and thought to himself, "Gosh, I really do love Mary, but I think it's time I become gay?" Seriously. |
LozlanTheMage 12.11.2007 19:29 |
I wanted to extend my heartfelt thanks to the original poster for this lovely gem: "I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND NEED TO SEEK COUNSELING. THIS TALE SOUNDS ALOT LIKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILING ON CNN I SAW A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THERE WERE CONFESSIONS FROM A CONVICTED RAPIST WHO TOLD IN MINUTE DETAIL THE AGONIES HE FACED WHEN NIGHT FELL AND HE COULDN'T RESTRAIN HIMSELF FROM GOING OUT AND FINDING ANOTHER VICTIM TO RAPE. THERE WERE TEARS IN HIS EYES AS HE BEGGED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY. THEN THERE WAS THE CLASSIC CHILD MOLESTER. HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIS APPETITE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. IT WAS IN HIS BLOOD. HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO BE LOCKED UP, BUT HE WAS PLEADING FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY AT THE SAME TIME." Ah, thank you. It is a distinct pleasure to be equated with a serial rapist and a child molester due to my entirely healthy and psychologically sound sexual preferences. Sir, you missed the point entirely. The focus was not meant to be my bisexuality. This was meant to be an extended presentation of my 'choice' to experience homosexual leanings; raised Catholic, guilty as hell to the point of self-flagellation, and obsessive to the extent of being non-functional. I DO believe that sexual preference derives in part from socialization, upbringing and environment. However, we are creatures of distinctly genetic material. Homosexual behaviour is observed throughout the animal kingdom; indeed, I find it telling that numerous simian species practice homosexual relations socially. But your one telling line - something about 'the will of god' - has cemented my opinion. You are not here to host a creative discussion. You are here to fling yourself into the lion's den by stating a viewpoint you feel to be controversial. Then you can absorb the abuse and disagreement you know is coming, rendering you into some matyrish figure. Congrats. You believe biology is a sin that is punishable socially. You believe love is so utterly narrow as to encompass only heterosexual unions. You believe in persecuting a widely-hated minority (I quite enjoyed your portrayal of the marchers in gay parades, by the by - obviously they are fascists evildoers who smite all who oppose them with ironfisted power and vulgarity). Finally, you seem to selectively draw your life's morals from Old Testament passages, which are some of the most terrifying and inhumane texts in religious history. Yes, murder your offspring if you see fit. Isolate women who are brazenly experiences menses. Seriously, I thought Jesus came to deliver a new realm of understanding and love...but perhaps I am mistaken. After all, I've only read the Bible. I am a bisexual man with a female preference. By my own delineation I measure a 2 on the Kinsey Scale - a means of measurement I advise you to look up. I then suggest that you move on to Kinsey's other works, and then explore some of the varied texts concerning the fluidity of sexuality and, moreover, gender. I am what I am, whether crafted by some god or a natural product of this chaotic universe. Through genetic pre-disposition and social construction I am sexually attracted to men. I'm so terribly and completely sorry that this upsets you. |
steven 35638 12.11.2007 20:50 |
^Bravo! I concur with you with the upmost respect, my fine gentleman! I find it amazing how throughout the centuries religion has not evolved into something more accepting. Homosexuality, as you so nicely put it, can be observed throughout the animal kingdom; and who are we to say we are no different from the animals? We share this world, and we share our sexual tendencies. It is to my personal understanding that all species who have sex are generally the same. It is my personal belief that everyone is prone to homosexuality. In fact, I dare to say that the starter of this thread could one day be attracted to her own gender. Some of us, more than others, embrace our natural homosexual tendencies more than others. It is a shame that people aren't so open minded. Religion prevents the understanding of many things. I can't stand those who take the Bible word for word and block out any source of logical thinking. 250 years ago the great philosophers believed that by our time religion wouldn't be around. Instead, we would have even more great thinkers and, believe it or not, acceptance of others for who they are. After all, it would be a boring world if everybody were the same. I salute homosexuality! Oh, and about Freddie Mercury. The man is a musician, a composer, and a great performer. Him being gay is nothing bad; especially nothing to be ashamed of! In fact, his homosexuality is what influenced him to write some of his best work. Gosh, it amazes me we have people like My Mini Mercury bashing the gays when being a fan of Queen. I always thought Queen fans were opened minded, higher-thinking, but not necessarily philosophical, individuals. I guess I was wrong. |
Dusta 12.11.2007 21:22 |
Again, great post.QUOTE]Lester Burnham wrote: junketerQ2 wrote: Ummmm, ok - what a heated discusssion - lol. Well, I'll just add that Freddie was in a man/woman relationship for some years with Mary Austin & then he decided/chose to end it to live a gay lifestyle - CHOICE!!!It was his choice to end the relationship, yes, but it was not his choice to suddenly be attracted to men. Judging by how much he loved Mary (and one can tell based on how warmly and fondly he spoke of her over the years), do you think he just woke up one day and thought to himself, "Gosh, I really do love Mary, but I think it's time I become gay?" Seriously. |
junketerQ2 13.11.2007 04:03 |
Well, just for the record, I am a huge Queen fan & love them primarily for the awesome music they have made - pure geniuses! The fact that Freddie was gay does not put me off their music one little bit at all. However, just because I have an opinion against the homosexual lifestyle does not mean that I hate or cannot tolerate gay people. It is quite simply the "act" that I despise, not the person. Therefore it also does not mean that I am a homophobe. And don't go calling me a bigot because you are in effect a bigot yourself for not tolerating the fact that I have a differing opinion to you! While I agree with some of the things others have posted to this topic, I also think some of their opinions are a bit extreme & warped. However, like I said in my first post I believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice not genetics. In my opinion your sexuality is a private thing that you choose to do privately. I am sick of seeing it flaunted all over the place publically and the way it has been pushed onto society through public parades, being written into laws & various legislation throughout the world - & all for a minority group. You're gay? So what. I don't need to see you flaunt it about in some parade - do you see me showing off my heterosexuality in some hetero parade & calling myself a hero, or have it legislated for? Keep it to yourself. I have to agree with My Mini Mercury that society has been brainwashed into accepting it & thinking that it is the norm when in fact it isin't. We might as well leagalise & give rights to necrophiliacs, pedaphiles, ku klux clan & the likes. But you know why we don't - because we all know that that type of behaviour is unatural & wrong! Now, again this is my opinion - homosexuality is unatural & wrong because man goes with woman, that's the way it was designed. Now to those of you who have extreme & archaic religious beliefs, more so the Christians, put yourself in Jesus' shoes & ask how he would treat homosexual people. He would be accepting & loving of them as people. He wouldn't condemn them & take them out & stone them now would he. He would be understanding of them & their struggles & would offer them his grace & forgiveness if they would confess & turn from their lifestyle & start living the way he had intended them to live. Hey, nobody is perfect now are they. Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the person - love the person but hate the "act" & lifestyle. Like I said first off - I loved Freddie & his attributes & gifts that he had & his generosity & love towards others - just don't like the homosexuality. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 08:41 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: I wanted to extend my heartfelt thanks to the original poster for this lovely gem: "I'M SORRY ABOUT YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THEM AND NEED TO SEEK COUNSELING. THIS TALE SOUNDS ALOT LIKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILING ON CNN I SAW A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THERE WERE CONFESSIONS FROM A CONVICTED RAPIST WHO TOLD IN MINUTE DETAIL THE AGONIES HE FACED WHEN NIGHT FELL AND HE COULDN'T RESTRAIN HIMSELF FROM GOING OUT AND FINDING ANOTHER VICTIM TO RAPE. THERE WERE TEARS IN HIS EYES AS HE BEGGED FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY. THEN THERE WAS THE CLASSIC CHILD MOLESTER. HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIS APPETITE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. IT WAS IN HIS BLOOD. HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO BE LOCKED UP, BUT HE WAS PLEADING FOR UNDERSTANDING AND MERCY AT THE SAME TIME." Ah, thank you. It is a distinct pleasure to be equated with a serial rapist and a child molester due to my entirely healthy and psychologically sound sexual preferences. Sir, you missed the point entirely.NO, YOU MISSED THE POINT. THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A TENDENCY OR INCLINATION TO BE A CERTAIN WAY, AND YOU SUFFER PSYCHOLOGICALLY OVER IT, DOES NOT MAKE THE THING, WHETHER IT BE HOMOSEXUALITY OR THE TENDENCY TOWARD PEDOPHILIA.....DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 08:57 |
junketerQ2 wrote: Well, just for the record, I am a huge Queen fan & love them primarily for the awesome music they have made - pure geniuses! The fact that Freddie was gay does not put me off their music one little bit at all. <<However, just because I have an opinion against the homosexual lifestyle does not mean that I hate or cannot tolerate gay people. It is quite simply the "act" that I despise, not the person. Therefore it also does not mean that I am a homophobe. And don't go calling me a bigot because you are in effect a bigot yourself for not tolerating the fact that I have a differing opinion to you!>>> <<<Like I said first off - I loved Freddie & his attributes & gifts that he had & his generosity & love towards others - just don't like the homosexuality.THIS IS EXACTLY THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET ACROSS! THANKS! IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT FOR ALOT OF PEOPLE FREDDIE IS A HERO NOT BECAUSE OF HIS MUSICAL GENIUS AND THE WONDERFUL SONGS THAT QUEEN WROTE, BUT BECAUSE HE WAS PORTRAYED AS A HOMOSEXUAL. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 09:24 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so onTHIS REMINDS ME OF A "PERSONAL DEMON" I HAVE. I HAVE BEEN OBSESSED WITH THE NUMBER 4 SINCE I WAS THREE, BECAUSE IT'S A PERFECTLY NICE AND EVEN NUMBER. I ALWAYS COUNT OUT 4 OF EVERYTHING. IF I RAP MY FINGERS ON A TABLE, IT MUST BE 4 TIMES OR SEVERAL SETS (ALL EVEN NUMBERS) OF RAPS EACH SET CONSISTING OF 4 TAPS. AND IF A "RAP SET" HAPPENS TO END IN AN UNEVEN NUMBER BECAUSE I WAS TEMPORARILY DISTRACTED BY SOMEONE TALKING TO ME OR WHATEVER, I AM ACUTELY CONSCIOUS OF IT AND MUST THEN ADD AND EXTRA "RAP" FOLLOWED BY AT LEAST 4 MORE SETS OF RAPS. IF I SQUINT OR BLINK MY EYES, IT INVARIABLE MUST BE 4 EQUAL BLINKS OR SQUINTS, OR SEVERAL SETS OF 4. THE NUMBER 3 JUST KIND OF HANGS THERE AND IF I TAKE JUST 3 COOKIES INSTEAD OF 4, THE 3rd COOKIE ALWAYS SEEMS SO LONELY AND I MUST REACH FOR ANOTHER ONE. OF COURSE IF THERE ARE ONLY 3 COOKIES LEFT IN THE JAR, AND I HAVE A NICE COLD GLASS OF MILK, I HURRY UP AND EAT THE 3rd ONE, AND WITH LESS RELISH THAN I WILL EAT THE OTHER TWO. THAT 3rd COOKIE JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME APPEAL FOR ME AS IT WOULD IF IT HAD A "MATE" WITH IT. BUT WITH THE REMAINING TWO COOKIES I WILL INDULGE MYSELF AND EAT THEM SLOWLY WITH THE GLASS OF MILK. HOWEVER, IF I HAVE 4 COOKIES ALTOGETHER....I EAT THEM ALL WITH EQUAL TIMING AND RELISH, AND I TRY TO END IT WITH EQUAL NUMBER OF BITES, PREFERABLY IN SETS OF 4. I'VE NEVER FIGURED OUT HOW I COULD CONTROL THIS. SOME OF MY FRIENDS HAVE SUGGESTED THERAPY OR HYPNOSIS. IT HAS BECOME A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THE PAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF THIS "OBSESSION" I DEVELOPED A HABIT OF FLEXING THE MUSCLES IN MY SHOULDERS....FIRST THE LEFT ONE, THEN THE RIGHT...IN MANY SETS OF 4. I SAT IN A CLASS FOR A SOLID HOUR ONE DAY DOING THIS AND DEVELOPED A SERIOUS CASE OF BURSITIS AS AS RESULT. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 09:31 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME I salute homosexuality!THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT'S GONE BEYOND "TOLERANCE". IT SEEMS THE GAYER A PERSON IS, THE MORE HE'S HAILED A HERO. |
steven 35638 13.11.2007 09:56 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:Alright, that may have been a bit over the top, but then again that's just my personality. Listen, I certainly do not think of a gay man or woman as a 'hero' per se. I look at them as a brave few who have come out of the closet and accepted their sexuality. It's admirable.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME I salute homosexuality!THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT'S GONE BEYOND "TOLERANCE". IT SEEMS THE GAYER A PERSON IS, THE MORE HE'S HAILED A HERO. In fact, I have a couple of friends who are homosexual. Do you think I just say "ah, good for you, mate?" No, I give them a hug and smile saying "I'm proud of you." Just because they're gay doesn't mean I can't touch one. So, if that's beyond tolerance then yeah, ok, you might say that. I tolerate homosexuality differently than others. Everybody has their own belief and what not. I have my own. I was raised to love and respect all people. I don't care who you are, as long as you don't abuse others. |
gnomo 13.11.2007 10:36 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: It is my personal belief that everyone is prone to homosexuality. In fact, I dare to say that the starter of this thread could one day be attracted to her own gender.I agree - I do believe we're all born bisexual, and our choices are only a matter of personal preference, that may shift over time as a result of (changes in) our experiences and environment and mindset... |
steven 35638 13.11.2007 11:01 |
^Thank God, I'm not alone! |
Ms. Rebel 13.11.2007 11:32 |
gnomo wrote:I agree 100%. I think It's not normal and It's not right judging people because of their sexuality. I'm pretty sure that we all really are born bisexual and our choice depends on personal perfence as you said up there.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: It is my personal belief that everyone is prone to homosexuality. In fact, I dare to say that the starter of this thread could one day be attracted to her own gender.I agree - I do believe we're all born bisexual, and our choices are only a matter of personal preference, that may shift over time as a result of (changes in) our experiences and environment and mindset... So typical when someone starts topic about homosexuals, bombs are flying in the air xD We all can't and never will think the same. But everyone has right on his opinon. I'm glad I don't have any problem about the subject. I'm more occupied with other things. Being gay is for me normal as breathing. It's more important how is someone as a person, color, where he comes from, sexual orientation..all doesn't matter. You can have human garbage in every single group. It's important that he's good as a person. And that's all what matters. |
magicalfreddiemercury 13.11.2007 11:45 |
<font color=#CC0099> *Killer Queen* wrote: It' important that he's good as a person. And that's all what matters.Though you're 100% correct, the problem lies with those who abhor homosexuality. They rarely see a homosexual as a 'good person' because they feel what they're doing is bad. Logic eludes those people. As we've seen in this thread and others. |
Micrówave 13.11.2007 12:17 |
Allow me to "plug" something in here. First, the theory that we're all born bi-sexual is crap. Our sexuality develops as we age. Otherwise, I would have never wanted to stop sucking on the tit. There's no gay gene or some little bell that goes off when you're 7 that says "I'm gay". I'm sure science would have figured that out by now, unless "it's a conspiracy!" |
Ms. Rebel 13.11.2007 12:20 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:Exactly.<font color=#CC0099> *Killer Queen* wrote: It' important that he's good as a person. And that's all what matters.Though you're 100% correct, the problem lies with those who abhor homosexuality. They rarely see a homosexual as a 'good person' because they feel what they're doing is bad. Logic eludes those people. As we've seen in this thread and others. |
LozlanTheMage 13.11.2007 12:28 |
Micrówave wrote: Allow me to "plug" something in here. First, the theory that we're all born bi-sexual is crap. Our sexuality develops as we age. Otherwise, I would have never wanted to stop sucking on the tit. There's no gay gene or some little bell that goes off when you're 7 that says "I'm gay". I'm sure science would have figured that out by now, unless "it's a conspiracy!"link Share and enjoy. |
magicalfreddiemercury 13.11.2007 12:38 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: link Share and enjoy.Fabulous, Lozlan! I was looking for the link to this article so I could post it and you'd already done so. Cool. |
Ms. Rebel 13.11.2007 13:03 |
LozlanTheMage, you rock. Great posts! I was really touched reading what you wrote. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 13:11 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: [/QUOTENAME link Share and enjoy.AND A QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE: "There are no true females and only one in 500 nematodes is male. Most are hermaphrodites, with both male and female organs." ENOUGH SAID. |
magicalfreddiemercury 13.11.2007 13:14 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: ENOUGH SAID.To show utter ignorance. |
gnomo 13.11.2007 13:19 |
Micrówave wrote: First, the theory that we're all born bi-sexual is crap. Our sexuality develops as we age.Exactly what I said - we're born with the natural possibility to develop our sexuality in any direction. As we grow up, we live through different experiences and environments and influences and stuff that make our sexuality develop in either direction, and sometimes shift direction, possibly more than once over our lives, or usually reach a final balance at some point, that may be either hetero, or homo, or bi, depending on the individual. All of those are absolutely natural outcomes, and I just can not understand why most are so uncomfortable with the idea that they feel ashamed for just thinking of it. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 14:44 |
gnomo wrote:Micrówave wrote: First, the theory that we're all born bi-sexual is crap. Our sexuality develops as we age.Exactly what I said - we're born with the natural possibility to develop our sexuality in any direction. |
Stoner 13.11.2007 14:54 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote:NO.......YOU'RE IGNORANT IF YOU BUY THE CRAP PRESENTED IN THIS ARTICLE.My Mini Mercury wrote: ENOUGH SAID.To show utter ignorance. HOW MANY HOMOSEXUALS OR BISEXUALS DO YOU KNOW ARE HERMAPHRODITES? |
LozlanTheMage 13.11.2007 15:05 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:gnomo wrote:I'm assuming that you've spent very little time around small children. Even infants derive great pleasure from stimulating their genitals. Freud was a hack in many respects, but his observations of psychosexual development in infants and toddlers remain particularly intriguing.Micrówave wrote: First, the theory that we're all born bi-sexual is crap. Our sexuality develops as we age.Exactly what I said - we're born with the natural possibility to develop our sexuality in any direction. I THINK WHAT MICROWAVE MEANS IS THAT WE DON'T START BEING SEXUAL UNTIL WE REACH A CERTAIN AGE. YOU KNOW, HORMONES AND SUCH. |
magicalfreddiemercury 13.11.2007 15:24 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:???magicalfreddiemercury wrote:NO.......YOU'RE IGNORANT IF YOU BUY THE CRAP PRESENTED IN THIS ARTICLE. HOW MANY HOMOSEXUALS OR BISEXUALS DO YOU KNOW ARE HERMAPHRODITES?My Mini Mercury wrote: ENOUGH SAID.To show utter ignorance. Did you even read the article? Oh, wait. Never mind. Whether you did doesn't matter since all you will take from it is what you feel either negates the scientific facts or 'does not apply'. Those of us who shared our views in this thread were trying to expand your mind on this issue. Clearly, you're unwilling or unable to comprehend at this time. Maybe one day. |
Ms. Rebel 13.11.2007 15:57 |
Oh dear God..This isn't going anywhere! My Mini Mercury, can you tell me why are you so pissed? Why this subject? WHY??? We all have different views on some things. You have right to have your own opinion, but why are you not keeping it for yourself? For example I hate voting (I will never vote), also hate spiders, I don't like people that are full of prejudice's and talking about it all the time. But I'm trying to be tolerant, I really do. So why can't you at least keep that thing for yourself, if you haven't tried to be tolerant. If gay people and bi are making you sick, try not talking about it, because there will always be someone who will think exactly the opposite. So to cut whole thing, in some situations It's better to keep things for yourself. There were already many topics like this one...this reminds me of topic called "how gay was Queen?" from >>don't try suicide<<, but at the end he told us that he was just joking. But as far as I can see you are totally serious. P.S. I must say that sociology and psyhology subjects are always interesting to me...Actually my favourite ^_^ |
Stoner 13.11.2007 16:07 |
<font color=#CC0099> *Killer Queen* wrote: this reminds me of topic called "how gay was Queen?" from >>don't try suicide<<, but at the end he told us that he was just joking. But as far as I can see you are totally serious.I TAKE IT THAT YOU WANTED ME TO SAY I WAS ONLY JOKING. |
Micrówave 13.11.2007 16:13 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: link Share and enjoy.Uh, dude, hate to break this news to Science and all, but worms are Asexual. All worms have both parts. So what exactly is a male worm? (please, no "male worm" jokes, I wasn't trying to open the flood gates) So we all read that article for what reason? |
Ms. Rebel 13.11.2007 16:17 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:No, I don't. I said earlier that as I can see you are serious about this. Why are you using Caps Lock all the time? Does that mean that you are yelling? Ok, calm down.<font color=#CC0099> *Killer Queen* wrote: this reminds me of topic called "how gay was Queen?" from >>don't try suicide<<, but at the end he told us that he was just joking. But as far as I can see you are totally serious.I TAKE IT THAT YOU WANTED ME TO SAY I WAS ONLY JOKING. |
Stoner 14.11.2007 01:46 |
<font color=#CC0099> *Killer Queen* wrote:My Mini Mercury wrote:<font color=#CC0099> *Killer Queen* wrote: Why are you using Caps Lock all the time? Does that mean that you are yelling? Ok, calm down.OBOY HERE WE GO WITH THAT PHENOMENON. WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS CRAP ABOUT "CAPS LOCK" AND "YELLING"? DON'T TELL ME IT'S BEEN AN INTERNET STANDARD FOR YEARS I ALREADY KNOW THAT. I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH IT. |
Stoner 14.11.2007 01:54 |
Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME Uh, dude, hate to break this news to Science and all, but worms are Asexual. All worms have both parts. So what exactly is a male worm? (please, no "male worm" jokes, I wasn't trying to open the flood gates) So we all read that article for what reason?So true Microwave, Why did they have to use an asexual worm....why couldn't they have used the old standard.....rats? |
Serry... 14.11.2007 03:22 |
Google ads shows banners about gays now in this thread! Starter of the topic spreads homosexuality over the board. Well, I suppose someone has already the gallows in its face, so the QZ hangman is awaiting... |
pittrek 14.11.2007 04:14 |
Serry<br><font size=1>The FLACer</font> wrote: Google ads shows banners about gays now in this thread! Starter of the topic spreads homosexuality over the board. Well, I suppose someone has already the gallows in its face, so the QZ hangman is awaiting...Banners ? What banners ? Did you hear about Firefox + Adblock ? |
Stoner 14.11.2007 04:19 |
HMM...SOMEHOW I MANAGED TO PASS OVER THIS LOVELY GEM OF A POST. Serry<br><font size=1>The FLACer</font> wrote: I've had enough of those discussions on Russian Queen forums and all those lovely arguements like "Peter Freestone is a liar! - Why? - His face looks like he's a pig, Serry!" |
Stoner 14.11.2007 04:40 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:Oh BTW, I made all this crap up.LozlanTheMage wrote: Fortunately for me I was able (with the help of some new medications)to chase away my personal demons. Many of my obsessions were groundless (that my head would start expanding, that I could never blink to the left, and so onTHIS REMINDS ME OF A "PERSONAL DEMON" I HAVE. I HAVE BEEN OBSESSED WITH THE NUMBER 4 SINCE I WAS THREE, BECAUSE IT'S A PERFECTLY NICE AND EVEN NUMBER. I ALWAYS COUNT OUT 4 OF EVERYTHING. IF I RAP MY FINGERS ON A TABLE, IT MUST BE 4 TIMES OR SEVERAL SETS (ALL EVEN NUMBERS) OF RAPS EACH SET CONSISTING OF 4 TAPS. AND IF A "RAP SET" HAPPENS TO END IN AN UNEVEN NUMBER BECAUSE I WAS TEMPORARILY DISTRACTED BY SOMEONE TALKING TO ME OR WHATEVER, I AM ACUTELY CONSCIOUS OF IT AND MUST THEN ADD AND EXTRA "RAP" FOLLOWED BY AT LEAST 4 MORE SETS OF RAPS. IF I SQUINT OR BLINK MY EYES, IT INVARIABLE MUST BE 4 EQUAL BLINKS OR SQUINTS, OR SEVERAL SETS OF 4. THE NUMBER 3 JUST KIND OF HANGS THERE AND IF I TAKE JUST 3 COOKIES INSTEAD OF 4, THE 3rd COOKIE ALWAYS SEEMS SO LONELY AND I MUST REACH FOR ANOTHER ONE. OF COURSE IF THERE ARE ONLY 3 COOKIES LEFT IN THE JAR, AND I HAVE A NICE COLD GLASS OF MILK, I HURRY UP AND EAT THE 3rd ONE, AND WITH LESS RELISH THAN I WILL EAT THE OTHER TWO. THAT 3rd COOKIE JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME APPEAL FOR ME AS IT WOULD IF IT HAD A "MATE" WITH IT. BUT WITH THE REMAINING TWO COOKIES I WILL INDULGE MYSELF AND EAT THEM SLOWLY WITH THE GLASS OF MILK. HOWEVER, IF I HAVE 4 COOKIES ALTOGETHER....I EAT THEM ALL WITH EQUAL TIMING AND RELISH, AND I TRY TO END IT WITH EQUAL NUMBER OF BITES, PREFERABLY IN SETS OF 4. I'VE NEVER FIGURED OUT HOW I COULD CONTROL THIS. SOME OF MY FRIENDS HAVE SUGGESTED THERAPY OR HYPNOSIS. IT HAS BECOME A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THE PAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF THIS "OBSESSION" I DEVELOPED A HABIT OF FLEXING THE MUSCLES IN MY SHOULDERS....FIRST THE LEFT ONE, THEN THE RIGHT...IN MANY SETS OF 4. I SAT IN A CLASS FOR A SOLID HOUR ONE DAY DOING THIS AND DEVELOPED A SERIOUS CASE OF BURSITIS AS AS RESULT. |
Serry... 14.11.2007 04:47 |
"PETER FREESTONE LOOKS LIKE YOUR TYPICAL LIE LOVING OLD GOSSIP SPREADING BIDDY IN THE WORKPLACE." This is what I wrote you about, guys! Those chapelgoers are more dangerous than the FLAC supporters! |
Stoner 14.11.2007 04:55 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: |
Stoner 14.11.2007 04:58 |
Serry<br><font size=1>The FLACer</font> wrote: "PETER FREESTONE LOOKS LIKE YOUR TYPICAL LIE LOVING OLD GOSSIP SPREADING BIDDY IN THE WORKPLACE." This is what I wrote you about, guys! Those chapelgoers are more dangerous than the FLAC supporters!UMM...I BELIEVE AT THE END OF THE POST I SAID I WAS KIDDING? BUT THEN YOU HAVE NO WAY OF REALLY KNOWING IF WAS ACTUALLY SERIOUS RIGHT? |
Serry... 14.11.2007 05:26 |
I don't speak English, I can't understand what you say. No any single word. It all is clear as a mud-spattered windscreen for me. |
gnomo 14.11.2007 06:27 |
Micrówave wrote: worms are Asexual. All worms have both parts.that's a self-contradicting statement. If they have both male and female fully-functioning reproductive organs, then they are ERMAPHRODITES, by definition of the word. By definition of the word again, you could call them Asexuate if they had NO reproductive organs at all, and only reproduced by division or gemmation or whatever. |
Freya is quietly judging you. 14.11.2007 08:24 |
gnomo wrote:Isn't the correct spelling "Hermaphrodite" ?Micrówave wrote: worms are Asexual. All worms have both parts.that's a self-contradicting statement. If they have both male and female fully-functioning reproductive organs, then they are ERMAPHRODITES, by definition of the word. |
gnomo 14.11.2007 09:26 |
<b><font color=007788>?Freya? wrote:Sorry, typo, you're right of coursegnomo wrote:Isn't the correct spelling "Hermaphrodite" ?Micrówave wrote: worms are Asexual. All worms have both parts.that's a self-contradicting statement. If they have both male and female fully-functioning reproductive organs, then they are ERMAPHRODITES, by definition of the word. |
Micrówave 14.11.2007 11:10 |
gnomo wrote:No, it's not. Look it up. I was telling you how they reproduce. Asexually. Like some of the people on this thread.Micrówave wrote: worms are Asexual. All worms have both parts.that's a self-contradicting statement. |
Lisser 14.11.2007 11:14 |
Fuck's sake, quit feeding Mini Mercury. Thank you for your interesting posts Lozlan. I enjoyed them. |
Stoner 14.11.2007 11:36 |
Lisser wrote: Fuck's sake, quit feeding Mini Mercury. Thank you for your interesting posts Lozlan. I enjoyed them.LISSER, YOU KNOW YOU'RE SO FASCINATED WITH THIS TOPIC THAT YOU'LL KEEP COMING BACK FOR MORE AS LONG AS THE THREAD IS ALIVE....AND IF YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD YOU'LL AT LEAST KEEP CHEERING ON LOZLAN TO KEEP HIM GOING. |
LozlanTheMage 14.11.2007 11:42 |
Lisser wrote: Fuck's sake, quit feeding Mini Mercury. Thank you for your interesting posts Lozlan. I enjoyed them.Thanks much. In the spirit of closing this thread I will no longer be posting; Mini Mercury's cheerful revelations concerning her 'made up' posts have convinced me that she has no particular respect for the argument at hand or those participating in it. Actually, I'm fairly offended by the detailed post concerning her obsessive tendencies; I felt some true sympathy for a moment. To have the whole production revealed as a farce shoots down any respect I have for her argument (which was scant enough at the onset). A final word on the worms: the fact that they are hermaphroditic is irrelevant. We are all evolved from lifeforms that initially reproduced through binary fission and, later, hermaphroditic processes. Evolution is a spiralling chain of higher life derived from the lower; thus any discovery effecting the lowliest of creatures has wide-ranging effects on the species subsequently derived from them. We all originate from the same stuff (you might be intensely surprised to learn how much genetic material we share with bananas). Thus a discovery low on the evolutionary ladder has far-reaching effects over the stratum of all earthly life. Signing off. |
Stoner 14.11.2007 12:28 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: [QUOTE |
Ms. Rebel 14.11.2007 12:44 |
Hahahahaha.. |
Lisser 14.11.2007 12:59 |
LozlanTheMage wrote:No need to sign off! We can still have productive conversation here, infact that is exactly what would be the best way to deal with people that are close minded, rude, and selfish; keep talking sense, they'll read it, and possibly absorb some of what is read? Probably not, but at least some of us could still have interesting dialogue.Lisser wrote: Fuck's sake, quit feeding Mini Mercury. Thank you for your interesting posts Lozlan. I enjoyed them.Thanks much. In the spirit of closing this thread I will no longer be posting; Mini Mercury's cheerful revelations concerning her 'made up' posts have convinced me that she has no particular respect for the argument at hand or those participating in it. Actually, I'm fairly offended by the detailed post concerning her obsessive tendencies; I felt some true sympathy for a moment. To have the whole production revealed as a farce shoots down any respect I have for her argument (which was scant enough at the onset). A final word on the worms: the fact that they are hermaphroditic is irrelevant. We are all evolved from lifeforms that initially reproduced through binary fission and, later, hermaphroditic processes. Evolution is a spiralling chain of higher life derived from the lower; thus any discovery effecting the lowliest of creatures has wide-ranging effects on the species subsequently derived from them. We all originate from the same stuff (you might be intensely surprised to learn how much genetic material we share with bananas). Thus a discovery low on the evolutionary ladder has far-reaching effects over the stratum of all earthly life. Signing off. What you have to say is very interesting. It's been a long time since we've had such intriguing converstations on the board. We should probably choose to ignore any moron that might pull their own string though ok? :) |
Stoner 14.11.2007 15:52 |
I'm sticking by what I said though. I have nothing against homosexuals. They are human beings with feelings. What I do have a problem with is homosexuals telling me there is nothing wrong with homosexuality and that it's normal. THAT is a delusion. It's deceptive and wrong. And just because I have a different viewpoint from you doesn't make me a moron. I assure you, I am not a moron. And I don't believe I've called anyone else who added to this thread a moron. If I have I apologize. Also, do you believe that everyone has to agree with everyone else, and not bring any different viewpoints to the table in order to have interesting dialogue? I have quite enjoyed ALL of the posts in this thread. They have ALL been interesting to me. |
steven 35638 14.11.2007 16:16 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: I'm sticking by what I said though. I have nothing against homosexuals. They are human beings with feelings. What I do have a problem with is homosexuals telling me there is nothing wrong with homosexuality and that it's normal. THAT is a delusion. It's deceptive and wrong.That is a respectable position upon the matter at hand; however, you shouldn't have said "THAT is a delusion" or "it's deceptive and wrong." Rather than giving us what you intended to be an honest opinion, you've actually blurted it out as if they're definite truths. You have every right to believe in what you want, but you should never call your beliefs true unless you have substantial evidence to back your claims up. |
sparrow 21754 14.11.2007 16:41 |
im curious MMM, what would happen if your future child came home one day and said 'mom, i have to confess. im gay.' or your (son) says 'mom, i kinda did some things with a boy, and i liked it' would you condemn the child you love, and just seconds before was the same person before telling these thing to you, simply because of their lifestyle? |
Ms. Rebel 14.11.2007 16:42 |
My Mini Mercury you have right on your opinion dear, although I don't agree with you. But that's ok. This was/is really interesting thread. We can't make you change your mind and you can't make us say that being gay isn't normal. That's how it is :) |
Stoner 14.11.2007 20:02 |
Sparrow wrote: im curious MMM, what would happen if your future child came home one day and said 'mom, i have to confess. im gay.' or your (son) says 'mom, i kinda did some things with a boy, and i liked it' would you condemn the child you love, and just seconds before was the same person before telling these thing to you, simply because of their lifestyle?NO. I WOULDN'T CONDEMN HIM BUT I SURE AS HELL WOULD CONDEMN HIS ACTIONS. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHY HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD KEEP THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCES TO THEMSELVES. IT REALLY HURTS THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT YOU MOST. IF YOU LUST AFTER SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX AND YOU JUST CAN'T HELP YOURSELF.....THEN JUST DO IT IN PRIVATE GET IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM WHATEVER. NO NEED TO TELL ANYONE ELSE ABOUT IT. WHO'S TO SAY LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND? THIS WHOLE "COMING OUT" THING IS BULLSH&%T. EVERYONE HAS DEEP SEATED SECRETS AND DEMONS AND TORMENTS THAT ARE NO EASIER TO BEAR THAN WHAT HOMOSEXUALS THINK THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. NO NEED TO EXPOSE THEM FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO SEE. |
Stoner 14.11.2007 20:17 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:you should never call your beliefs true unless you have substantial evidence to back your claims up.MY EVIDENCE TO BACK UP MY BELIEF IS THIS: |
steven 35638 14.11.2007 21:31 |
I'm not sure how this got here, my apologies. |
steven 35638 14.11.2007 21:32 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: MY EVIDENCE TO BACK UP MY BELIEF IS THIS: IF MEN WERE MEANT TO SLEEP WITH MEN.....THEN MEN WOULD NOT JUST HAVE THEIR OWN PARTS....BUT FEMALE ONES AS WELL....SO THEY COULD FIT BOTH WAYS. SAME WITH WOMEN. AND PLEASE DONT TELL ME ABOUT THE ANAL SEX. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT PLACE IS FOR.Your evidence isn't substantial enough. |
steven 35638 14.11.2007 21:33 |
Double post, my apologies. |
sparrow 21754 14.11.2007 22:25 |
My Mini Mercury wrote:thats fine, i was curious. no need to yell. youre entitled to opinion, as long as youre not hurting anyone, or condemning the person. disliking an action is fine, we all have that.Sparrow wrote: im curious MMM, what would happen if your future child came home one day and said 'mom, i have to confess. im gay.' or your (son) says 'mom, i kinda did some things with a boy, and i liked it' would you condemn the child you love, and just seconds before was the same person before telling these thing to you, simply because of their lifestyle?NO. I WOULDN'T CONDEMN HIM BUT I SURE AS HELL WOULD CONDEMN HIS ACTIONS. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHY HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD KEEP THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCES TO THEMSELVES. IT REALLY HURTS THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT YOU MOST. IF YOU LUST AFTER SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX AND YOU JUST CAN'T HELP YOURSELF.....THEN JUST DO IT IN PRIVATE GET IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM WHATEVER. NO NEED TO TELL ANYONE ELSE ABOUT IT. WHO'S TO SAY LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND? THIS WHOLE "COMING OUT" THING IS BULLSH&%T. EVERYONE HAS DEEP SEATED SECRETS AND DEMONS AND TORMENTS THAT ARE NO EASIER TO BEAR THAN WHAT HOMOSEXUALS THINK THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. NO NEED TO EXPOSE THEM FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO SEE. in a way i can understand what youre saying, that people who rub it in your face are obnoxious, and you just want them to keep it to themselves. i think the same about PDA, straight or gay. i think people should keep it to a minimum, and not be obnoxious about it. am i right? youre a little on the extereme side, but like i said, youre not hurting anyone, so i dont see a fuss that i know of. but i couldve missed something. i dunno. |
Stoner 15.11.2007 04:48 |
Sparrow, I am not yelling. If you'll notice, when people quote other people in posts, they sometimes use all caps so that their reply to that quote is more easily distinguished from the original quote? That's what I'm doing. I'm not yelling....MAN I wish they'd come up with a standard on the internet people could latch onto that lets you tell when a person is frowning, smiling...laughing growling etc....Oh wait they already have that. It's called the smiley. Tell you what Sparrow, next time I used all caps in a post....I'll put a nice smiley at the end of every sentence. |
Dan C. 15.11.2007 05:21 |
Is your family name Phelps? |
Freya is quietly judging you. 15.11.2007 05:55 |
GOD HATES FAGS. |
Stoner 18.11.2007 12:59 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:GIVE ME A P!My Mini Mercury wrote: MY EVIDENCE TO BACK UP MY BELIEF IS THIS: IF MEN WERE MEANT TO SLEEP WITH MEN.....THEN MEN WOULD NOT JUST HAVE THEIR OWN PARTS....BUT FEMALE ONES AS WELL....SO THEY COULD FIT BOTH WAYS. SAME WITH WOMEN. AND PLEASE DONT TELL ME ABOUT THE ANAL SEX. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT PLACE IS FOR.Your evidence isn't substantial enough. GIMME A R! GIMME A O! GIMME A C! AND A R! E! (Get the picture?) A! T! I! O! N! WHAT IS THE REASON FOR S-E-X-U-A-L A-T-T-R-A-C-T-I-O-N-? P-R-O-C-R-E-A-T-I-O-N! I hope you appreciated this it took like 3 minutes to get everything lined up and all those dashes and everything in there. |
Stoner 18.11.2007 13:04 |
Alink the letters and everything lined up perfectly on the right side until I hit post button. Then they didn't look so straight. They all went to left. Guess I lose you win. |
steven 35638 18.11.2007 15:01 |
My Mini Mercury wrote: Guess I lose you win.I suppose so. |
andrewpatrick 29.06.2012 07:58 |
i read one of these articles about freddie mercury and his last lover Jim Hutton! saying that jim was never his lover but only a gardener!! this guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.. if he had done any research at all on these two he would have found out that in fact all the band and close friends of freddie would of told him Jim was in fact his lover and common law husband... when was the last time Mr Ahundova got his gardener to bathe him and video it at the same time!! MR AHUNDOVA YOU DEFINATLEY ARE A TWAT!!! |
The Real Wizard 29.06.2012 09:46 |
You started an account here to respond to a 5 year old topic? Interesting to say the least, but ... welcome aboard. |
Micrówave 29.06.2012 15:21 |
andrewpatrick wrote: when was the last time Mr Ahundova got his gardener to bathe him and video it at the same time!! MR AHUNDOVA YOU DEFINATLEY ARE A TWAT!!! Actually, I am Mr. Ahundova. And I've had a lot of time to think about things. In hindsight, you are all right. Freddie was gay and died because he had unprotected sex with many partners... one was named Andrew Patrick. Gee, I hope that wasn't you. Anyhow, sorry for the paper. I'm working on a revision. Good day. |
Flores 09.02.2013 00:23 |
AND NOW....THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA! When I read Ahundova's biography I was hearing for the first time talking about a gay society, a gay agenda that was against Freddy Mercury. I could not understand why gays should be against him and what agenda could they possibly have? In my view of the world gays were poor people not allowed by society to live their life without shame. But in Ahundova's words they seemed guided by evil intentions and seemed to be very powerful. So I did a straight search and what did I find? This! link Ahundova knew what she was writing! This is just an excerpt, you need to read through the whole article to understand what has been going on" "The Homosexual Lobby seeks to pervert the education process by promoting the equivalence between "gay" and "straight" relationships in schools. " " The corrupting and cultivation of confused youth is a central plank of the homosexual education movement. That is why homosexual predators and their proselytisers groom young students for "coming out" as "homosexuals," "'bisexuals" and "transgenders." In fact, homosexual organisations now cater to young teens, who mingle with older experienced homosexuals. The venal souls guiding the education system are actively encouraging the homosexual activists to forage youth and direct confused individuals to "gay" advocacy groups. The justifiers of homosexuality have continually sought to inject pro-homosexuality discussions into the school curricula at an early stage, including kindergarten. Understanding the propensity of humans to be readily debased, these advocates of sodomy understand the more explicit these sex education programmes are the better for them and their cause. These evil people know that by exposing the young impressionable minds to things that they ought not to experience at that time, and in such a crass impersonal mechanical way, they sow the seeds of moral degeneracy. To conceal their real purpose from parents, the smug liberal intelligentsia and the Homosexual Lobbyists use jargon and euphemism. Thus, their immoral agenda is promoted in the name of "tolerance" and "diversity." They call on the school system to reject "bias" in the curricula. To re-educate the children thereby equipping them with the tools needed to combat "racism," "sexism," "ableism," "classism," "heterosexism," "homophobia" and all other forms of oppression. Impressionable and often troubled students are encouraged to 'come out' as "gay," "lesbian," "bisexual" or even "transgender" through pro-homosexuality school clubs. Homosexual teachers are encouraged to incorporate homosexuality-affirming lessons in the school curricula, regardless of parental opposition, and to defend their "right" to be openly homosexual in the classroom. The Homosexual Lobby and foolish and wicked teacher-activists are desperately attempting to make homosexuality universally accepted; or using the jargon of their movement, to "mainstream" homosexuality in the classroom. The main tactic has been to stress that famous historical figures were "Gay." Homosexual proselytisers scour the pages of history to identify the sexual tendencies of the famous and to produce lists of supposed sodomites even if there is no definitive proof for the claim. Another aspect of the Homosexual Myth is the notion of it being the vehicle of genius. Promoters of homosexuality posit that there exist two forms of genius, "gay genius" and "straight genius," and that both are equally valid. They then publicise their spurious findings as proofs of "gay genius" and thus attempt to establish a moral condition of equal validity. " POOR FREDDY! THEY INVENTED THAT HE WAS GAY TO PUSH HOMOSEXUALITY THROUGH SCHOOLS! HIS FANS NOW ARE BEING BRAINWASHED READING THOSE PORNO BIOGRAPHIES AROUND! |
Flores 09.02.2013 01:13 |
Observe how the very same homosexual agenda and it's tactics are working on this here forum. Observe the people who only have as driving purpose to reinforce the belief that Freddy Mercury was gay and that homosexuality is natural. It seems that this whole website has been built on with that purpose. |
john bodega 09.02.2013 02:35 |
It's Freddie. But you're actually correct - I've been telling people for years that in spite of all the homosexual sex he was having, Freddie was as straight as they come. |
Missreclusive 09.02.2013 20:46 |
Am raising a 13 yr old guy who loves Queen and Freddie M. He doesn't realize anything with regard to Freddies sexuality...he assumes he was heterosexual. The kid has watched Freddie interviews and concerts with Freddie prancing around in leotards and has also seen the IWTBF vid but still doesn't see Freddie as gay. We just enjoy the music and Freddies personality both on stage and off. Now, this same kid has developed predjudice towards gays and also hispanics. Why? Because of the "in your face" stuff. He has seen the hispanics in our area act like little gang members and has witnessed flamboyant lisping gays... he finds it distasteful. Have I taught him this? no. He made up his own mind, this kid a top student, plays music and sports and is well thought of in the community. I think sexuality is a personal issue and shouldn't be shoved in anyones face...period. But then the world is full of people who feel they must do this and they don't care that it offends people. |
Flores 09.02.2013 20:57 |
A PROFOUND STUDY THAT SUGGESTS THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS NEITHER GENETICAL NOR IT IS BY CHOICE. I warmy incourage all of you to read it wholly, it can help you and make you help many confused people and save them from the evil homosexual agenda. The root of homosesuality is more identified of the working together of various factors, the most significant ones are - an unmet need of love from same sex parent which has been reported by many homosexuals - sexual abuse as a child (80% of homosexual men report having been sexually abused when they were children) The study shows that during adolescence there is a natural confusion about sexual orientation which will later clear itself, and little boys and girl should be left free to experience this period of confusion without imposing on them the belief that they are homosexual. Thus what is being done by the gay activists in schools, as is reported in the previous article - the homosexual agenda - is inducing the little boys and girls to believe they are homosexual just because they happened to have some sexual arousal when seeing-getting in touch with another same sex person, or having some sex fantasies about them. That is the suble attack to youth that is being perpetrated under the guise of teaching children values of "acceptance, respect" and to combat homophoby. link |
Flores 09.02.2013 21:22 |
Thank you for this testimonial, I am reassured to know that children do not buy into this fake propaganda. The important is that they stay away from Freddy's fake gay biographies and fan clubs. |
Flores 09.02.2013 21:25 |
Missreclusive wrote: Am raising a 13 yr old guy who loves Queen and Freddie M. He doesn't realize anything with regard to Freddies sexuality...he assumes he was heterosexual. The kid has watched Freddie interviews and concerts with Freddie prancing around in leotards and has also seen the IWTBF vid but still doesn't see Freddie as gay. We just enjoy the music and Freddies personality both on stage and off. Now, this same kid has developed predjudice towards gays and also hispanics. Why? Because of the "in your face" stuff. He has seen the hispanics in our area act like little gang members and has witnessed flamboyant lisping gays... he finds it distasteful. Have I taught him this? no. He made up his own mind, this kid a top student, plays music and sports and is well thought of in the community. I think sexuality is a personal issue and shouldn't be shoved in anyones face...period. But then the world is full of people who feel they must do this and they don't care that it offends people. Thank you for this testimonial, I am reassured to know that children can recognize the real Freddy and do not buy into this fake gay propaganda. |
john bodega 10.02.2013 01:58 |
You're still spelling Freddie wrong, in your fake gay propaganda. |
Holly2003 10.02.2013 14:42 |
Flores, cherry-picking bits from the Bible to support your anti-gay beliefs is the worst kind of intellectual and moral cowardice. You live in the Dark Ages. No one cares what you think any more than they care about the views of lunatics who think the world is flat or that comets are evil omens. You are irrelevent. Apart from that, have a nice weekend. |
ITWEMBLEY86 12.02.2013 13:10 |
Mr. Ahundova lived and lives- behind the iron curtain, and as such does not believe anything the media says or said. which is a reasonable position when faced with a culture of total propoganda, but it seems insane to the enlightened western culture who believe anything they read. except for "the gospel truth" of course. |
Flores 12.02.2013 21:03 |
Holly2003 wrote: Flores, cherry-picking bits from the Bible to support your anti-gay beliefs is the worst kind of intellectual and moral cowardice. You live in the Dark Ages. No one cares what you think any more than they care about the views of lunatics who think the world is flat or that comets are evil omens. You are irrelevent. .If you really thought that my posts are irrilevant you wouldn't even bother to reply. Of course they are relevant, that's why you and your colleagues are paid for trying to put them down. |
Missreclusive 12.02.2013 21:24 |
Paid? lol |
Flores 12.02.2013 22:42 |
ITWEMBLEY86 wrote: Mr. Ahundova lived and lives- behind the iron curtain, and as such does not believe anything the media says or said. which is a reasonable position when faced with a culture of total propoganda, but it seems insane to the enlightened western culture who believe anything they read. except for "the gospel truth" of course.I think she hit the point about the way he died. Those articles in the press saying "Freddy underwent another AIDS test but he is not positive" didn't really mean anything, unless they were to prepare the masses for his illness while trying to hide how he was infected: why the press was not to saying that he WAS infected? the press is always looking for big news, scandals, even when they are not true, and in this case which was the truth, why to say that he was negative? Obviously because if they did say the truth, investigations would occur, and discovered that he was injected HIV in hospital. I report an excerpt from the chapter where she details her findings, which is worth reading all: The illness and death of Freddie Mercury are surrounded by a dark and very suspicious mystery. Freddie Mercury wasn’t the only one celebrity who died of AIDS, but only the circumstances of his illness and death are still hidden from the society. About any famous man died in the similar circumstances, we can know almost everything: the date of diagnose ascertainment – year, month and day, the name of the doctor who ascertained the horrible news, number and name of the hospital in which that happened, the approximate date of his AIDS infestation, where and what treatment did he receive, in which clinics and hospitals, which medicaments did he receive and what procedures he’d undergone, how the disease progressed, the name of the attending physician or physicians etc. etc. We can learn that about everyone – except Mercury. The intelligible information about his illness doesn’t exist. The few pieces of data that we have are bitty, chaotic and contradicting each other. And factually, we know nothing. And what’s essential – nobody even tries to learn anything. Biographers and journalists, who love to dig up Freddie’s dirty clothes, for some reason aren’t interested with such a theme – his disease. Furthermore – they are straightly “closing” the theme, which is quite unpleasant for them, telling that nobody else than Mary Austin and Jim Hutton know when Freddie was HIV-infested – and shut up after that. To say shortly, nobody knows, and it’s not needed. If you’d know too much, dear Queen fans, you’d grow old too soon. Hushaby, kids, you’d better discuss the kitties and fishies and don’t go where you aren’t welcome… But, at least, that must know the doctors who ran the tests and told Freddie those horrible news. Also, his own doctor Gordon Atkinson and the attending physicians must’ve known that too. Like of every citizen of Great Britain, Freddie’s medical card must’ve remained. He was receiving the treatment from AIDS for several years – so, there must be the case history, the notes about the procedures he’d undergone, the medications he’d received, the professional advises, the progress of the disease, the date of the opening of the card of another HIV-positive British, Faroukh Bulsara. Where is all that? And where are the formalities which are essential in the case of the death from the communicable disease (furthermore, Freddie died at home, not in the hospital)? Where are the results of autopsy or, at least, the simple corpse examination? Where’s the doctor’s opinion? The death certificate was written according to the spoken opinion of Gordon Atkinson – why? Why the body was driven away from home with the outrage upon the laws? Maybe, because if the doctors would’ve been punctilious, they’d find many interesting things. For instance, the medical proof of the normal sexual orientation of the deceased. Or the absence of any trails of cocaine in his organism – and this is a grandiose scandal, isn’t it? If a famous man dies from illness, his doctor (or doctors) holds the press conference, on which he answers all the press’ questions. Gordon Atkinson didn’t do that, limiting himself to several common, meaningless phrases. And all other witnesses did so. But why nobody tries to learn it by him (or her) self? The sensation-seeking press and biographers were so thoroughly describing Freddie’s fictional “gay affairs”, so scandalously presented his death to public – but nobody asked Atkinson to show the medical card and the case history, not a single, even wildest, tabloid didn’t attract the public attention to the strange suppression of facts about the disease, no sensational hunter ever tried to find the information on his own. Neither the press, which is always interested with the diseases of the famous men, nor the biographers, describing the physical sufferings of dying Mercury with a sadist’s delight – nobody cornered the witnesses, and no journalist demanded them to answer the elementary simple questions. Where is this indifference from? And don’t say that it’s because of delicacy – we know what have they done with the name and memory of Freddie Mercury. The analysis of the materials of this theme led me to a very disappointing conclusion – the information about the illness and death of Freddie Mercury is classified. Even now, when ten years passed since his death. What for, if his disease is just an incident? What for such conspiration is needed in the backdrop of the most dissolute obscenity? So, they have what to hide. Summer 1986 – Queen are out on their most grandiose Magic Tour, after which Mercury can be treated as the new King of Rock. Autumn 1986 – Mercury undergoes some tests in the London hospital Harley Street and goes holidaying to Japan. While he’s out, the tabloid paper Sun says that he had an AIDS test. The article attracts the attention of journalists and causes a scandal; on return, Mercury denies the newspaper information. Year 1987 – one after another, the newspapers are publishing the provocative articles about Mercury. It’s said about his depraved gay’s life, the false Mercury’s interview is printed, in which he’s saying expansively about his present depraved life, which ended when AIDS appeared, and says that he’s HIV-negative. Years 1988-1991 – the press is constantly saying that Mercury was tested for AIDS, but the infection wasn’t found. Meanwhile, the changes in Freddie’s appearance cause rumors about his health. The Queen officials are denying his AIDS infection. November 1991 – a day before his death, Freddie officially states that he has AIDS. Ten years after his death, all the medical documentation about his disease is still hidden. It seems that it makes the full circle. And now, we can put forward a preliminary version of when and where Freddie Mercury was infested by AIDS. It happened in September 1986, in the London hospital Harley Street. What happened at the Harley Street isn’t the medical mistake or neglect – it’s the thoroughly planned murder. Otherwise, Sun wouldn’t have learned about that so soon, Freddie wouldn’t have been the only victim, and the reach of the scandal can hardly be imagined. In 80’s and 90’s, all around the world went a wave of mass AIDS infestations in the medical facilities. But in all similar cases, the infestation was quickly found, the principals were found, and the press was raising a scandal. There were the cases of single infestations also (for instance, in 1991 the entire world was shocked by the tragedy of American student who was HIV-infested in the dentist’s cabinet), but even these cases were quickly found out. It can be found out only if it was an accident, a neglection. But that day, nobody else was infested, the infested instruments were instantly replaced and destroyed, and it was impossible neither to prove something nor to find the principals |
Flores 12.02.2013 22:44 |
(follows from previous post) It can be found out only if it was an accident, a neglection. But that day, nobody else was infested, the infested instruments were instantly replaced and destroyed, and it was impossible neither to prove something nor to find the principals… Freddie went to Japan not knowing what they have done to him yet. But the one who published the article in Sun knew about it – most probably, it was the sign, “there it is!” And in order not to cause any suspicion in the future, after Mercury’s death, the article was written in the style of a canard. And then, the purposeful and carefully thought up press campaign began, preparing the public to the future honourless end of the Europe’s first gay. And the articles about the unfound infection meant: the client is dying, everything’s under control. And for he wouldn’t accidentally live ten or fifteen years on medication, as it often can be during AIDS, his quickest departure to the other world must’ve been provided by the good doctor Gordon Atkinson… What for and why Freddie was killed – I think you understood that. After 1986, it was the only way to stop Queen’s triumph and prevent the progress of the spiritual rock revolution. They couldn’t let Freddie take the throne of the Rock King, and when it happened, they just didn’t have any other way. Everything happened exact to Freddie’s early song Liar – “They never ever let you win… they bring you down before you begin”. The song turned out to be prophetic. But why was he silent? Why didn’t he say about what they’ve done to him? Why he let to dishonour himself? And what could he do? What could he prove? How would that look like? Who would believe him, except a group of devout fans? In this situation, Freddie Mercury would’ve looked like a scoundrel who tried to shift the blame on somebody else, who’s not just a lecher and felon, but also a sad coward who isn’t brave enough to confess in his sins. This would’ve looked like a sorry try to deny his sin and disgrace. Freddie, like any Parsi, was a very proud man and would never diminish himself to that. He hated when somebody tried to pity him, and his Queen mates during work had to go out to the corridor to hide their tears – Freddie wouldn’t tolerate any condolences towards him. That’s why he didn’t say anything about his disease – he wanted neither condolences nor reproaches nor his life turned to hell, which the prostitute press would’ve surely done. And don’t forget that in 80’s, the attitude towards AIDS-infested people was quite different to current… They knew perfectly well that Freddie is going to be proudly mute, swallowing his dishonour and sufferings – and they used it. But it would’ve been wrong to say that Freddie hid the truth from people. Queen screamed about the unfortunate fate all around the world. If you want to know more about Freddie Mercury – don’t read his biographies. Listen to his songs, watch his video clips. The full chapter here: link |
john bodega 13.02.2013 05:32 |
Nice fiction. |
Zaza Gabor 13.02.2013 08:52 |
Flores, dear. You and M.V. Ahundova are undoubtedly free to envision Freddie Mercury any way you like as long as it helps you to enjoy his music. Though it’s sad that you are frustrated by social preconceptions around you, I must admit that - like it’s been already said in one of the posts above – it depends on where you live. The society may well deserve it. However, there’s one thing about those chaos-coming-soon websites you go to next; something that I’m just curious about. There homosexuals are dubbed as “sodomites” and “pedophiles”, despite that these words are not synonyms; and there isn’t mentioned that both sodomy and pedophilia can be [and way too often are] committed by heterosexuals as well. I can’t help noticing that exactly these two acts are felt as sexually unpleasant and/or dangerous by large number of people. The question is, then: of course, the celebrity news releases often have little credibility; but what makes you think that people, who attempt to manipulate the unconscious fears of others instead of addressing their judgment, are certainly nicer and should be trusted more? |
GratefulFan 13.02.2013 11:37 |
"the tragedy of American student who was HIV-infested in the dentist’s cabinet" Hahaha. |
Flores 19.02.2013 18:47 |
Zaza Gabor wrote: QUOTE "However, there’s one thing about those chaos-coming-soon websites you go to next; something that I’m just curious about. There homosexuals are dubbed as “sodomites” and “pedophiles”, despite that these words are not synonyms; and there isn’t mentioned that both sodomy and pedophilia can be [and way too often are] committed by heterosexuals as well."QUOTE Actually it IS mentioned: "Homosexual apologists, admit that some homosexuals sexually molest children, but they vehemently deny that homosexuals are more likely to commit such offences. They cleverly argue that the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature and produce convincing statistics to support their argument. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, they conveniently ignore the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population. If pushed these venal minds will cite the claim of a so-called sex researcher Alfred Kinsey that at least 10 percent of the population is homosexual. This figure is a fallacy. The facts of the matter are these: men commit almost all sex crimes against children. Therefore, paedophiles are invariably males. Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls). Therefore, by definition and probability the act is by pederasts who are ipso facto homosexual. The figure cited by Alfred Kinsey and promoted by vested interests that homosexuals comprise 10 percent of the population has been proved a fallacy by authorities that are more circumspect and decidedly less venal. The figure is between 1 to 3 percent of the population. Individuals from this tiny minority (1 to 3 percent of the population) that are sexually attracted to the same sex commit up to one-third of the sex crimes against children. Therefore, homosexuals are over represented in child sex offences. Homosexuals comprise by far the greatest group of sexual predators of children and the lifting of the moral restraints and the legal sanctions against them merely emboldens would be paedophiles. These are the facts this is the reality.link |
Flores 19.02.2013 22:39 |
And now let's talk about AIDS. The HIV theory has been proven to be false. The scientific community is denying it but there is enough proof out there for those who want to see. There is no virus: what causes AIDS, which is the failure of the immune system, besides malnutrition and starvation, is basically medical drugs, including vaccines, Medical drugs are deadly, but people do not know. When people start to die because of some drug, pharmaceutical companies pay some doctors to invent the theory of new deseases to cover up the killer drug. So lots of money goes into research for the causes which are of course given to a virus and never to the effects of deadly products of the industry, be them food, drugs, new toxic tecnology and so on. A research for a virus that does not exist. And they invest money to invent a vaccine to the virus that does not exist. And the vaccine itself will cause the desease and new deseases, that they will cover up and look for a new virus....do you get the picture? Take the time to listen and read all these three different doctors/scientists say and the other information provided. 1) Christl Meyer: link 2) Dr Willner: link 3) Peter Duesberg: link 4) link HIV is just an unharmful cell in the body, a part of our dna according to doctor 1, and it tests positive when there is a big amount of antibodies, proteins, in the body. It becomes positive for different reasons: after a vaccine is injected is one of them. After you take drugs. And for homosexual after receiving proteins from your partner through sex. Because they often take drugs and because of semen in the body homosexuals often test positive. But there is no virus and AIDS CANNOT BE TRASMITTED. The test is totally untrustable, you test positive in one country and same blood in another country tests negative. Because there is no virus, it is just antibodies coming from outside that naturally are eliminated then by the body. Doctor 2 has publically stung himself with HIV positive blood several times to demostrate people that HIV is not a virus. He died of heart attack 6 months later. Heart attack is one of the most common ways used to secretely kill somebody by making them take some poison. Let's see how the HIV theory was invented by the pharmaeutical industry to cover the lethal effects of one of their drugs, used by gays, and for another reason linked to the gay agenda, that we will see later: This is the story of Peter Duesberg. Duesberg is a professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of California, Berkley. He is a cancer researcher who has formulated a theory that HIV does not cause AIDS. According to Duesberg what is known as AIDS was originally caused by the use of Alkyl Nitrate in the homosexual communities. Alkyl Nitrate is a recreational drug that creates some euphoria, and also loosens the anal spincter making anal sex easier. Hence its use by homosexuals. Alkyl Nitrate, like some other nitrates, causes Karposi Sarcoma, a virulent cancer. When homosexuals in the late 70's and early 80's started surfacing with Karposi Sarcoma the possibility of a new epidemic disease was proposed. Causes for the new disease were explored. HIV, a retrovirus present in many of the homosexual community that had Karposi Sarcoma was identified and labeled the possible cause of AIDS. The extremely toxic cancer drug AZT was resurrected from oblivion, because it had been banned for chemotherapy cancer use. AZT was approved for treatment of HIV infection. AZT itself causes many disease conditions commonly associated with AIDS. Merely detecting HIV infection was cause for "treatment" with AZT. Once AZT treatment was initiated a whole myriad of AIDS symptoms surfaced, not just Karposi Sarcoma. Lots of money was made from causing more disease conditions, which of course had to be treated with other expensive drugs as well. AFRICA Africa has suffered from many tropical diseases like malaria, and malnutrition because of wars, revolutions, and famine. These conditions were labeled as AIDS, even though HIV positive test results were not obtained in most cases. The AIDS figures were always greatly inflated by this sleight of hand. This resulted in huge amounts of money allotted for AIDS research. Many "researchers" and pharmaceutical companies profited greatly. Duesberg contends that HIV is a harmless retrovirus. That is why a person may be infected with HIV for years and never experience any symptoms associated with AIDS, until of course treatment with AZT is initiated. Doctors will then say, "good thing we started treatment just in time as symptoms started to surface." Huge sums were made from the AIDS hoax. It could never be "cured", just treated indefinitely at a high cost, and AZT caused many more disease conditions. Duesberg's theory was totally ostracized by the scientific community, and personal attacks were made. It was the classic kill-the-messenger approach. Duesberg wrote a book "Inventing the AIDS Virus" that details his theory. Duesberg's theory has never received much press even in conspiracy circles. I believe that is because it is probably the closest to the truth. I wrote this article for anyone infected with HIV, which could be almost anyone homosexual or heterosexual, so that they could have necessary information before starting any AZT regime for "treatment". I am not a homosexual, but I certainly do not wish any harm to come to anyone. Promoting the theory that AIDS is really an epidemic disease is the exact MO of the "Powers That Be" to keep the population in a perpetual fear state. I know for a fact that drugs used to treat "Autism" actually cause many of the symptoms labeled "Autism". I have witnessed it with my own two eyes. That is going to be the topic of one of my subsequent articles. |
Flores 19.02.2013 22:55 |
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Flores 20.02.2013 00:34 |
AND NOW COME FULL CIRCLE of the Six Step Attitudinal Change Plan about homosexuality. So we have 1) Ahundova's biography that tells us that Freddy Mercury was not gay was not sex and drug addict, was killed, was first shamed overwhelming by press and biographers for being a depraved gay, and then has been rehabilitated and pictured as a great gay, poor victim of aids, by the homosexual movement to receive acceptance in the society. 2) The medical researchers that tell us that AIDS is not a virus, but the scientific community ferociously denies it, and thus people believe it is an epidemic desease , it is transmittable. We have enourmous shame cast against gays. Cristians say they are receiving the punishment from God for their depravation. 3) We have the information coming from the gay agenda website, overloardofcaos, about the opposite phenomenom perpetrated by intellectual minds to convince people that homosexuality is natural, is genetic and cannot be changed, and the campaign they are doing that is bringing this new theory into the schools, to have children accept it forcefully, or they will be punished as homophobe, and in an age of sexual confusion convince themselves to be homosexual if they have some attraction to the same sex. We have campaigns from homosexual to reduce the age of adolescents in which they can have sex legally and it is not a crime. And we have statistics that say that there is a high tendency among homosexuals to be pedophilies. We have the elite secretly ruling the planet, the Big Money sponsoring the gay movement. So on one side we have the Power-that-be inventing a disease that causes shame on homosexuals and on the other we have the same Power-that-be sponsoring gays to convert people to homosexuality. And in the middle we have one celebrity receiving the same double treatment. Why? Does it make any sense? Let's shake it all and see: This comment comes from a reader of the previous article about Duesberg debunking of HIV theory. The comment by "R" 4/12/12 re what his wife learned 30 years ago from the gay activists THEMSELVES is a jewel of a truth worth shouting from the rooftops. He also mentioned: "...making the general public feel guilty and "DOUBLE-MINDED" (the mental state of all who come to consciously accept that which they instinctively hate)." (caps added) I remember well the progression from single-mindedness to the double-mind in the AIDS Scam: 1. First, the general opinion was basically that, "If you live a life of debauchery, you will reap what you sow." (Gal. 6:7) [1] 2. Then the fear propaganda re AIDS/HIV was poured on thick & we began hearing of care agencies, schools, businesses, whatever, refusing to allow HIV &/or AIDS people in their midst. 3. Step 2 was necessary so they could then turn the tide & begin "shaming" everyone with such (purposely manufactured) "fears" & calling them cruel, heartless, haters, etc. 4. Then they threw in a few celebrity case stories to seal the sentiment that "Not everybody is bad who gets AIDS" (Rock Hudson, that famous basketball guy, etc.) 5. Then, Politically Correct Public Acceptance (consensus) is reached... the "Six Step Attitudinal Change Plan" was complete.[2] Have you got it? To change humanity's attitude towards homosexuality: cast so much shame on it that it will trigger the opposite reaction of feeling pity and accept it, even though you istinctively hate it. Why? because the elite that secretely rules this world is a satanist sect who gets power over other individuals through sex. Satanists make children sacrifice rituals and the act of sodomy is their act of harnessing power from another being, be it with a woman or a man. It is the symbol of dominion. The anus has not been made by nature to be used for sex, it has not the pain receptors and has not the thick walls that has the vagina not to be damaged, so it can be easily damaged. Besides, semen received from the anus gets into the blood through the walls and it lowers the immune defence system of the receiver. This has been explained by a doctor. And can you feel love from your heart when being penetrated in your anus, like when you have a vagina penetration? I am afraid no, and your wish for love is never fullfilled. Uganda's legislative proposals to kill homosexuals are part of that Six (or Five) Step Attitudinal Change Plan. Haven't you wondered why so much hate has arisen against homosexuals? Isn't that strange? It sounded strange to me and I asked myself why. Now the international community is making pressure to save the homosexuals in Uganda. Here it is: double minded politically correct public acceptance. The leader of Uguanda, who is favour of this outrageous legislation, went to visit the Pope. She was received and kissed as a blessing. What reaction does it make in you? Exactly the one they, the elite, of which Uganda's president and the pope are part, want you to have: scandal, and wish to protect homosexuals. Here it is: double minded politically correct public acceptance. How easy it is manipulate somebody's thoughts. |
Flores 20.02.2013 01:46 |
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Holly2003 20.02.2013 01:58 |
I never thought a Queen website would be home to such virulent and dangerous prejudice. Well done site owner and admin. |
Flores 20.02.2013 02:17 |
What can I say about what I found out? It's mind blowing even for me to realize the extent of the genocide. The temptation is to go into denial. I started just as a curiosity without suspecting it, I asked myself: let's see if they also killed Freddy Mercury besides John Lennon and Michael Jackson. And the pandora box exploded. Wanting to know the truth means discoverying also what you would not want to see. But I feel so liberated to have one more confirmation to know that deadly diseases do not exist. Who is actually living in fear between me and the population who believes a virus can kill them if they make love without condom? Who is going through a hell between me that do not take any medical drug because I know they are deadly and the people who let themselves be cured and killed by conventional doctors? And when they will tell you that an extraterrestrial threat is underway to convince you to accept more restrictions on your freedom, who will be living a poor life, me or those who will believe it? I feel such a compassion for those who do not know what freedom is, who do not know the beauty of life lived according to nature and God, in the truth, away from lies. This truth I have been looking for all of my life, and so blessed I feel to know that thankfully this is just a dream we are living, of our own choice, and death does not really exist, and if we want we can be free as the wind, because we are Spirit. |
Holly2003 20.02.2013 03:17 |
Fuck off Flores. |
andrewpatrick 02.04.2013 06:42 |
sorry it took me so long to reply to your post but i have a life!! just ask your mother as she know so well! |
pma 02.04.2013 12:32 |
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, I'm tired of this conspiracy bullshit, It's time we all came clean with this.... IT WAS ME, I KILLED FREDDIE. But it was not my idea to eat those dry pretzels before a blowjob, men have choked with lesser items in their mouths. I'm very sorry for killing your idol and making it look like he had A.I.D.S, sorry about this. Phew, it feels good to come clean after all these years of lies. Pretzel anyone? |
nikilabiri 02.04.2020 05:57 |
i am sorry for my bad english.Mv Ahundova's article has so much to discuss,most of all how he got HIV,thats why i read your post,and i cant understand if you are fan or not.i see that for you the appearance is the most important us i understand from what you have said about freddie and jim also.Aw about homosexuality the answer comes from science.After a lot of research they have many answers.it is not a matter of belief.and its not abnormal.so socrates from greece said"one i know is that i know nothing"you have to study and not to stuck to your feelings about anything...before you believe in something.And finally if Freddie wasn't the personality that he was,you wouldn't have know him at all.How do you assume that if he changed a bit would have all know him?????I AM GLAD fREDDIE WAS WHAT HE WAS.THAT MADES HIM A LEGEND TO MY HEART,TO ALL HEARTS. |
nikilabiri 02.04.2020 06:25 |
And guys you mixed up the discussion.this article is about mv ahundova or homosexuality?homo is not a choice.not a life style.if it was then you have not reason to ashamed for this,as many do.has anyone have to say anything about this article?Freddie was very responsible person at many things.so why not to sex?hypothesis:if freddie use all times condom and when learned he had hiv was consider that jim gave it to him,then jim had the test and got positive but freddie hadnt live long enough to see that jim lived till 2010.so jim either had got it after freddie and from freddie or had immunity as some people have.so what if...mv ahundovas article its true..this is a big thing.why years and years are we talking about freddies death.is different to die from something you got with your responsibility from to die because some threw it into your blood |
nikilabiri 03.04.2020 04:11 |
this post is dead but i will write it anyway.nothing to do with the title of the post but i read a lot of gay matter...again,so i dont know how you form your opinion about how someone turns out to be gay but if you study and read serious books that they give you at university you will understand how homosexuality is a complex of 2 things,not one,its two.one is genetic and the other is environmental. |