breakthru1989 05.11.2007 16:50 |
good evening you all this is why knebworth really exists in queen archives. 1<<>>lp and mc and cd live magic 1986 2<<>>vhs and laserdisk magic years 1987 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004 4<<>>documentary magic moments,2003 5<<>>greg brooks mentioned in here,2007 6<<>>vhs and laserdisk rare live 1989 (the most awfull queen product in queen history) 7<<>>documentary champions of the world 1995 8<<>>queen videoclip THE SHOW MUST GO ON 1991 9<<>>the FREDDIE MERCURY tribute 1992 freddie parts. 10<<>> different reactions from queen productions 11<<>> last show from the magic tour’86 12<<>> in the biggest park in the uk. 13<<>> the very last queen concert with freddie 14<<>> one vsion and a kind of magic see nr 3 15<<>> radio ga ga and we are the champions see nr 6 16<<>> one time they have a bad recording 17<<>> they don’t have the full gig 18<<>> this year it’s not recorded at all 19<<>> someone forgets one or more cabels wich should record the show. 20<<>>video clip freddie mercury in my defence 1992 ??????????????? greetings |
emrabt 05.11.2007 16:53 |
"5<<>>greg brooks mentioned in here,2007" i think he mentioned the audio, and the footage of the big screen (as in what we all have here already). "13<<>> the very last queen concert with freddie" i dont think They knew this at the time, to them it was just the last show on the tour. |
The Real Wizard 05.11.2007 17:43 |
emrabt wrote: "13<<>> the very last queen concert with freddie" They didn't know this at the time, to them it was just the last show on the tour.Yeah, but it was still a ridiculously huge show (over 120,000 people). There are many bits of pro video from various angles, but not a whole lot. Brian said it wasn't recorded in full, so until he says otherwise, I think we should let it go. |
John S Stuart 05.11.2007 18:31 |
emrabt wrote: "the very last queen concert with freddie" They didn't know this at the time, to them it was just the last show on the tour.With repect, I disagree. I think Freddie knew he was seriously ill by this time (rumours began circulating in the UK 'SUN' newspaper as early as 1984), and that chances were, he would never tour again as he would not have the same stamina or energy levels. Given that the other band members covered this up, publically lied, and rallied around him at his time of need, (all laudable and understandable) the truth as to whether they knew or not is debateable. But my point remains the same. Either Freddie alone (or with the rest of the band) must have known that this was 'possibly' one of the 'final' tours (if not THE final tour itself) - and as such, I would guess that they 'knew' Knebworth may have been their swansong. If this is so - I too believe the gig would have been both audio and visually professionally recorded. My own personal opinion is, that if this recording does exist, it does not stand up to either Wembley or Budapest, and as such will not be released. I also think that however sentimental this gig is, it is at the end of the day, yet another 'Magic' concert, and commercially it would be stupid to release this at the expense of Rainbow, Hammersmith, Huston etc. |
Wiley 05.11.2007 19:26 |
John S Stuart wrote: I also think that however sentimental this gig is, it is at the end of the day, yet another 'Magic' concert, and commercially it would be stupid to release this at the expense of Rainbow, Hammersmith, Huston etc.I hope Brian thinks the same but since he has mentioned Budapest as a future release, I don't think he minds "flooding the market" with Magic Years material. Hammersmith 79 would be my top choice. It's got a lot of commercial potential. It's got as many hits as Montreal 81 and it's a better performance and overall show. Hope they get around to release it soon. Although, since they are making the jump into High Definition already, I think we might expect Budapest in HD and BluRay before a Hammy release in regular quality. I remember back in 98-99 there was another empty promise at the OIQFC Magazine. I believe a 3 live shows VHS collection was in the pipeline but was eventually shelved. That might have been our last change in getting Hammersmith 75 or 79, Houston or Hyde Park. |
rmtaylor 05.11.2007 19:33 |
as far as I can remember, Freddie knew about his illness after the end of the Magic Tour, as the book "Mercury and Me" says. Maybe he was in danger of a HIV infection, but I think it was not proved yet. |
Lester Burnham 05.11.2007 19:36 |
breakthru1989 wrote: 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth? |
Back2TheLight 05.11.2007 21:57 |
It may have been in the back of Freddie's mind that something may have been wrong with him, but he didn't find out for sure until around Easter 1987. They knew they were going to take a break after the tour, but I don't think either one of them really had in the back of their mind 'right, this will be our last tour for sure...' |
The Real Wizard 05.11.2007 23:02 |
rmtaylor wrote: as far as I can remember, Freddie knew about his illness after the end of the Magic Tour, as the book "Mercury and Me" says.Little of that book should be taken seriously. It's nothing but Jim's bitter tirades. |
DavidRFuller 06.11.2007 00:47 |
Don't forget that Freddie wasn't a big fan of touring- healthy or not, and he said many times that he wasn't going to be touring as he got older. |
YourValentine 06.11.2007 04:26 |
Lester Burnham wrote:There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.breakthru1989 wrote: 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth? |
pittrek 06.11.2007 04:47 |
YourValentine wrote:I didn't know about this one. I hope it's in the hub :-)Lester Burnham wrote:There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.breakthru1989 wrote: 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth? |
Wet Willie 06.11.2007 06:35 |
Under pressure (Knebworth version) was also released on the Rah mix single of the same song - when Greatest Hits 3 was out. |
Lester Burnham 06.11.2007 10:25 |
YourValentine wrote:Ahh, okay.Lester Burnham wrote:There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.breakthru1989 wrote: 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth? |
The Real Wizard 06.11.2007 10:54 |
Lester Burnham wrote:Here's the clip:YourValentine wrote:Ahh, okay.Lester Burnham wrote:There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.breakthru1989 wrote: 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth? link |
hotspace0 06.11.2007 12:26 |
As far as I remember, shortly after Freddies death, the german television did show the budapest concert. |
Adam Baboolal 06.11.2007 13:50 |
Wet Willie wrote: Under pressure (Knebworth version) was also released on the Rah mix single of the same song - when Greatest Hits 3 was out.Yes, the audio was. But then, it's already confirmed that the audio for the entire concert exists. It's the video footage that people question. Thanks for the mediafire link. Interesting tidbit. But does QP know about it? Adam. |
Bobby_brown 06.11.2007 16:04 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Thanks for the mediafire link. Interesting tidbit. But does QP know about it? Adam.Well, considering the number of times that this issue has been dicussed, i think they should know by now. This topic was discussed with lot´s of details, and ideas have been guiven about possible footage in archyves of television. This footage is a great example that something can be out there. Even if the concert isn´t suitible for a DVD release, i think it would be great to have as a Bonus DVD. Take care |
breakthru1989 06.11.2007 17:08 |
yes bobby brown,that’s a great idea. it’s the year 2008 budapest on dvd. disc 1- complete concert. with commentary by brian and roger subtitles disc 2--video intervieuw with brian and roger budapest special,freddie mercury 1986 intervieuw foto gallery,queen 1986 intervieuw. knebworth documentary,queen interview knebworth subtitles,queen live knebworth complete concert brian ad roger commentary. queen at the iron curtain 1986 |
John S Stuart 06.11.2007 17:28 |
Just another thought to add to the mix. If the video footage does NOT exist - perhaps it could be re-created (in total or in part) from all the various segments or fragments which DO exist? For example, I know that various 'Doctor Who' stories have been reconstructed, and that versions of 'The Invasion' the 'Ice Warriors' and the original 'Autons' have all been remade using all sorts of varying techniques. If so, I also like the idea that an official 'Budapest' DVD release could have an additional bonus Kebworth (or best of) disc. Let's be honest, it could be no worse than the 'Live Aid' or 'Wembley' rehearsals - and if they want me to buy that concert yet again... But alas, like the six out-of-town undertakers, I think QPL have lost the plot! |
newcastle 86! 16483 06.11.2007 17:51 |
thats a great thought john infact id buy into that myself, thing is as you say QPL dont have a clue as to what the die hard Queen fan wants. Looks like Budapest will be the next release im kinda cringing now as to what the 'bonus' material will be. |
rhapsody8 07.11.2007 01:55 |
When I bought my Wembley DVD, I loved friday concert footage as a bonus. If Knebworth video will be a part of Budapest DVD, next DVD will be my best... |
agneepath! 11994 07.11.2007 18:13 |
YourValentine wrote:I'm assuming Anglia News broadcast a report of the Knebworth concert at the time - so you've got to wonder how much footage they actually recorded and kept!Lester Burnham wrote:There is a TV report about Brian's honorary doctor degree which features a shot from Knebworth that was never shown anywhere else as far as we know.breakthru1989 wrote: 3<<>>brian may get’s doctoral degree 2004What does this have to do with the existence of Knebworth? |
hotspace0 08.11.2007 06:51 |
Why don t they release a concert from the jazz or news of the world tour or maybe the works tour? |
john bodega 21.11.2007 11:59 |
Nah, screw the Works tour. Unless they're going to do something about the drum sound, which is probably more trouble than it's worth anyway. |
Paulos 22.11.2007 15:30 |
Has anyone thought of e-mailing Anglian TV and asking them where they obtained the footage of Knebworth that they used in the Brian May Doctorate article? The more people that enquire the better the possibility of a reply... anglia@itvlocal.com |
guild93 24.11.2007 06:25 |
I can confirm they have been contacted and advised that only the original '86 report and later (doctrate) report exist. No master reel. Sorry. |
Paulos 24.11.2007 07:54 |
Thanks Guild93, So when Anglia TV created a report in 86 of the Knebworth gig for their local news (Knebworth/Hertfordshire must be covered for that news area?), the short clips they used must have been from a roaving reporter and his/her team, rather than asking Queen for snipets from their recordings? I guess this must be the case as the clip in the BM article showed views of the big screen that had totally different images. So we can discard the BM doctorate article as being proof that Knebworth film exists. |
guild93 24.11.2007 16:56 |
Paulos wrote: So we can discard the BM doctorate article as being proof that Knebworth film exists.Sadly it seems so. Does anyone actually have a copy of the original '86 report? It doesn't seem to be on youtube and while plenty of people acknowledge its existance, I'm yet to find anyone who has confirmed they have it. I assume it would have more live clips than the later doctrate report on Brian. |
Paulos 24.11.2007 18:30 |
Its a shame that Anglia news say that hey have no master reel. Presumably they filmed pieces of the concert here amd there, such as lots of crowd shots and i would have thoughts a few odd songs maybe at the beginning. Shame if this has been erased as it would help to piece some of the concert together from film that we know exists. I guess 21 years ago the media werent so big on saving what they filmed on video as opposed to today when its recorded digitally, think of how much space reels and reels of master tapes would have taken up. Hey ho. |
Triple Sod 10.12.2007 07:20 |
Knebworth 86 exists fully from the video tape recording. It is not a professional version with many cameras - just some. Therefore it was never released. The pictures are also bad on them. I saw approximately 85 minutes of the concert on tap. The concert was good, but I'm sick, the bad camera tired me and the terrible sound mixture. |
Madman 10.12.2007 11:10 |
Triple Sod - do You talk about well know amateur recording ? |
Triple Sod 10.12.2007 11:25 |
Madman wrote: Triple Sod - do You talk about well know amateur recording ?Hi Madman - today is lovely. I hope you love today too. I talk on the QPL version that day concert. Not amatuer face. |
newcastle 86! 16483 15.12.2007 20:00 |
triplle sod= tit head nice days! |
Daniel Nester 15.12.2007 20:41 |
The footage might have been from a news crew, not an actual QP film crew, yes? |