| hernan_taylor 04.11.2007 17:16 |
02.09.1976 - Concert: Queen in Playhouse Theatre, Edinburgh, UK Artist Queen Date 02.09.1976 Venue Playhouse Theatre City Edinburgh Country UK Support band Supercharge Es lo que tengo de este rarisimo concierto. (Incomplete) link Question: Anybody have Leiden 19.6.86? Thanks |
| The Real Wizard 04.11.2007 18:30 |
hernan_taylor wrote: Question: Anybody have Leiden 19.6.86?Absolutely. I'll share it if you remove this lossy (96 kbps?) recording. |
| RoyThomasBaker 04.11.2007 19:19 |
Would someone perhaps be so kind to upload this show in FLAC? |
| Mr. Bulsara 05.11.2007 09:42 |
Thank you very much for this. I already have it, but i don't mind if it's in mp3 or flac. It's the sharing spirit that counts. And if you want to share in mp3, that´s great for me. I don't mind. Cheers |
| Oszmercury 05.11.2007 09:45 |
Preserve the quality, thanks for your intention, but keep the good music dude, flac or shn |
| hernan_taylor 05.11.2007 11:50 |
Sig Gh ,si no te gusta no lo bajes viejo.Otra cosa guardate el concierto de Leiden sabes donde. Chau nunca mas subo mas nada ingratos. Hasta nunca VIVA QUEEN Y THE CROSS!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGENTINA |
| on my way up 05.11.2007 12:40 |
hernan_taylor wrote: Sig Gh ,si no te gusta no lo bajes viejo.Otra cosa guardate el concierto de Leiden sabes donde. Chau nunca mas subo mas nada ingratos. Hasta nunca VIVA QUEEN Y THE CROSS!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGENTINAEnglish please! |
| Queenrockyou 05.11.2007 13:55 |
The same topic as 10.000 times before, but why offering mp3 if FLAC is available ??!!! Think about it, the same file shared on mp3 multiple times and the music is altered (in fact it is already altered on the first time it is put on mp3 format as it is a lossy format !!!). Share several times the same Flac file and the music is still perfect !!! Using mp3 when FLAC is available is in my opinion : - selfish as doing that we don't care about the music and we don't let the choice to people who download to hear quality (FLAC) or altered music (even slightly to your ears, just believe this, mp3 do alter music also on a long-term basis !). - non-respecting the one person behind this who put all its heart and care and precision to compile files of good quality and to offer to everyone. How could anyone continue to share files if we continue to behave like that ? It's just as if i gave you a CD or a DVD and you just let the disc outside its box, on the table, or on the floor. It won't be long since it's out of order... Believe me, you wouldn't have anymore CDs or DVDs from me !! This is not a personal attack (I'm forecasting the reaction from the uploader ;o) ), it's just that we have to be more conscious of what we do with what we get, and that we have contribute to preserve the quality of the recordings, because nobody else would do this for us. If Queen Productions had recorded all the gigs in extra quality, and had carefully preserved, then they are able to offer "Live At The Bowl" or "Queen Rock Montreal" or "Live In Budapest" later, and I hope more live and even better ones... So please, stop sharing mp3 unless there is no other format available and you don't have the original files... Everybody would be grateful to you. Oh yes, the Leiden gig, yes it was a great concert !!! ;o) Stop the massacre. Join the Quality Fan Base. Subscription open from now. I'm on it !!! |
| josedequeso 05.11.2007 16:31 |
hernan_taylor wrote: Sig Gh ,si no te gusta no lo bajes viejo.Otra cosa guardate el concierto de Leiden sabes donde. Chau nunca mas subo mas nada ingratos. Hasta nunca VIVA QUEEN Y THE CROSS!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGENTINAGisted trasnaltion: "Sir GH, if you do not like this, do not download it. "Keep your Leiden concert" (something about Sir GH being ungrateful, and how he has never seen someone so ungrateful, then followed by long live Queen and the Cross." This is my translation, so there may be a discrepancy or a "lost in translation" bit. But cleary we can all see ignorance knows no language barrier. And to ruth.oliver, excellent post, well worth reading :) |
| The Real Wizard 05.11.2007 16:57 |
josedequeso wrote: something about Sir GH being ungrateful, and how he has never seen someone so ungrateful, and a whole lot of other crapHow about this... if he removes this mp3 version, then I'll share a better-sounding version in FLAC. Simple as that. It has nothing to do with me being ungrateful. I simply am among the growing number of people who want the best version of each show to spread - not inferior/lossy copies. It's just mind-baffling that so many people can't understand this simple concept. |
| Queenrockyou 05.11.2007 17:41 |
Hey man, just delete your files, I would be more than ready for Flac version of this show..... Please please me (oh yeah !) |
| mogiggymo 05.11.2007 17:43 |
Are we talking about Edinburgh 1976 here, I've lost the thread. Judging by what Sir Gh has shared in the past I'll go with him. As someone who has previously collected all the available shows in any format, the more recent lossless and lesser generation shows are indeed a step up. I'm no science buff but the difference is audibly clear. |
| RoyThomasBaker 05.11.2007 18:46 |
josedequeso wrote:A real gentleman you are, Jose!hernan_taylor wrote: Sig Gh ,si no te gusta no lo bajes viejo.Otra cosa guardate el concierto de Leiden sabes donde. Chau nunca mas subo mas nada ingratos. Hasta nunca VIVA QUEEN Y THE CROSS!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGENTINAGisted trasnaltion: "Sir GH, if you do not like this, do not download it. "Keep your Leiden concert" (something about Sir GH being ungrateful, and how he has never seen someone so ungrateful, then followed by long live Queen and the Cross." This is my translation, so there may be a discrepancy or a "lost in translation" bit. But cleary we can all see ignorance knows no language barrier. And to ruth.oliver, excellent post, well worth reading :) Perhaps we should skip all this discussion about Flac or Mp3 preferences or languages and go straight to the core of the issue uploading again this show (In FLAC, maybe? ;) |
| Queenrockyou 06.11.2007 03:10 |
Quite OK with you, but Bob is waiting for this mp3 show to be deleted before ! But I'm sure the uploader of these mp3 files will be clever enough to recognize that FLAC files (and Flac files from Bob !!!) are in better condition than him, and that with these files, he is going to upgrade his own version, and he will understand that he could make it mp3 again after that for him !!! This way, he will upgrade his mp3 version... Is it not funny ? Thanks a lot bob for permitting us to upgrade our mp3 versions wih your FLAC files... ;o) Of course we promise you we won't share our new mp3s but we keep our Flac aside to share these files instead !!! I don't understand, this is quite easy to do it seems.... Well we have to make the effort of learning what is Flac and how it works, but as we can compress a track in mp3 just by pressing two or three buttons, that's the same with Flac !!! there are some topics talking about that !! Nothing more simple !! Please, Bob, wait a little while our fellow Queenzoner delete his files and understand our point of view or explain his own... Regards, Olivier, France. |
| pittrek 06.11.2007 03:50 |
96kbps mp3 ? Oops. I don't understand people who like mp3s with less than 256kbps bitrate. And Bob, if you have the time, please upload the lossless version |
| on my way up 06.11.2007 06:12 |
It's simple as this: As sir GH says: there should circulate only 1 version of each show: THE BEST! By spreading mp3 you get a mess!Simple as that. There was a time that I didn't know anything about the lossy/ lossless discussion. I just downloaded MP3 shows from this site. But then people like bob told me that MP3 is inferior to other formats and why. Lossles is better than lossy. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. |
| The Real Wizard 06.11.2007 11:27 |
pittrek wrote: And Bob, if you have the time, please upload the lossless versionNope, sorry. For ONCE, I'm going to have backbone. Why circulate a good copy and an inferior one? If hernan makes a couple mouse clicks (either to delete the link or the file itself), then I'll be happy to help. Until then, everyone suffers because this forum allows lossy sharing. Even if I share my copy, there will still be people who will burn this lossy copy to CD and trade it. Shows travel quickly these days, so this show has already been ruined for a good amount of time, regardless of what I do. Also, the fact that none of the Edinburgh 76 copies have lineage makes it even more difficult for people to track down the best version. For example, if an mp3 copy of Vienna 78 rolls around, many people won't take it seriously because they know a second gen tape>CD is readily available. But since all of the Edinburgh copies have no lineage, some people may be satisfied enough with an mp3 version, as they could assume there isn't a lower gen tape out there. But there is. Bottom line... get rid of the mp3s, and we'll go from there. :) |
| Mean Mr. Ketchup 06.11.2007 15:55 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Amen to that! I fully support your decision Bob!pittrek wrote: And Bob, if you have the time, please upload the lossless versionNope, sorry. For ONCE, I'm going to have backbone. Why circulate a good copy and an inferior one? If hernan makes a couple mouse clicks (either to delete the link or the file itself), then I'll be happy to help. Until then, everyone suffers because this forum allows lossy sharing. Even if I share my copy, there will still be people who will burn this lossy copy to CD and trade it. Shows travel quickly these days, so this show has already been ruined for a good amount of time, regardless of what I do. Also, the fact that none of the Edinburgh 76 copies have lineage makes it even more difficult for people to track down the best version. For example, if an mp3 copy of Vienna 78 rolls around, many people won't take it seriously because they know a second gen tape>CD is readily available. But since all of the Edinburgh copies have no lineage, some people may be satisfied enough with an mp3 version, as they could assume there isn't a lower gen tape out there. But there is. Bottom line... get rid of the mp3s, and we'll go from there. :) |
| RoyThomasBaker 06.11.2007 17:16 |
Why should all the good and the righteous pay for the deeds of the sinners? Please upload it! Thanks. |
| The Real Wizard 06.11.2007 19:12 |
RoyThomasBaker wrote: Why should all the good and the righteous pay for the deeds of the sinners? Please upload it! Thanks.We as a community should vocally stand up against this... not just a few people. That's why. |
| on my way up 06.11.2007 19:15 |
RoyThomasBaker wrote: Why should all the good and the righteous pay for the deeds of the sinners? Please upload it! Thanks.It's an easy deal. Sir GH will share it when the mp3 version is removed. I think we should all support that. |
| RoyThomasBaker 06.11.2007 19:35 |
Guess too much importance is being given to this subject. Will we all end up singing "Baby Queen" to finaly get a grip on ourselves? Anyway the wind blows... |
| The Loser In The End 07.11.2007 03:39 |
...wow...wouldn't it be better to have two seperate 'sharing' sides? One for lossless and one for mp3...? |
| pittrek 07.11.2007 03:46 |
Sure it would. And I fully understand Bob's decision |
| Queenrockyou 07.11.2007 06:56 |
100% agree with Bob. When mp3 is not the best version available, then we should not distribute it, just convert the lossless files ourselves into lossy if we want to, only for personal use. If Queenzone is not the best way to share unaltered files, then where else could we do that ? Lossless exist, I dind't know about that before, I just learned in, say, two minutes, what it was and how it worked, not a difficult thing I can assure you, I'm not a PC-addict and I can do that. So if a French can do that... Could someone make a link to a topic (or give a fresh information) explaining clearly how to proceed if we want to use FLAC (with information about Windows media player and so on...) ? The readers of this topic could see that I'm not lying, it's not difficult. Well I'm having a try to explain this, as if I was totally new to this FLAC thing (I was some months ago !). When we receive FLAC files : They can't be read in the Windows Media Player or some other players unless a codec is installed. The information I found on link was very clear, easily downloadable. Once done I could hear those beautiful FLAC files on my Windows Media Player !!! Lovely !! When we want to grab files on CD : In my case I use Nero. I needed a coded for Nero to recognize the Flac files. I found it once again on Nero. Try this address : link it is written in french, but the last link, in the category "Plug-in FLAC pour NERO" might give you the codec. Very nice !!! I can now keep my Flac files on my external hard drive for future shares AND I can make a CD-audio with the FLAC files !!!! So good !!!! And then, if I want myself to create FLAC files, what can I use ? Well, Frontend is a good software, recognized here (just ask Bob what he thinks about it). Just go to : link Click then on "Download FLAC Frontend 1.7" and her you go !! So great ! I can now add my own participation to Queenzone if I want to !! Of course I have to learn to use the software, but its basic operations are not difficult to understand, just a few clicks like "open" and "convert" and "choose your directory" or somthing like that, nothing scary !!! Of course, one my first attempt I forgot to specify the level of compression I wanted, it was on 5, but we have to put it on 8 to have the best quality. Of course we can use this software the other way, to convert Flac into mp3 for using the oh so trendy MP3 players and so on... So does it seem difficult or not ? I don't think so ! So please, join the forces of the QOF "Quality Or Nothing", nothing to pay, just a very few minutes to make your PC ready for Flac, and that's it !! Of course if somthing doesn't work the way you want, just google : CODEC FLAC WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER CODEC FLAC NERO FLAC FRONTEND You will probably find other results that can be good and maybe better. Ps : if someone knows better web links so please correct me. and if information is missing please complete of course ! Well, this message I hope will help to convert mp3 users to Flac, that's its goal, I'm not trying to crueladeville you (;o) for the pleasure, but for the preservation of Queen music, that's all. For the rest, just think about it and see what you prefer. Once done, please do like us, use your mp3 if you like for your own pleasure, and share and download only FLAC files ! And please, see that Queenzoners have to be gentle enough to make some searches if necessary and warn us if a concert is only available in mp3 or if a FLAC version exists ! Oh, one last thing, don't try to convert MP3 into FLAC, I just haven't told you that, but some software exist to analyse the FLAC files and detect the FLAC-disguised mp3s.... Well, I hope someone usng mp3 until now could try and explain what he thinks about that. Hope that helps |
| bohemianmoomin 07.11.2007 21:41 |
Get him to delete this then please? I'd like to hear this one properly... |
| josedequeso 07.11.2007 22:41 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Are you suggesting a boycott of Queenzone by us pro-lossess members?RoyThomasBaker wrote: Why should all the good and the righteous pay for the deeds of the sinners? Please upload it! Thanks.We as a community should vocally stand up against this... not just a few people. That's why. |
| The Real Wizard 08.11.2007 02:33 |
I think I'm going to stay out of this one. I'm happy enough to sit and watch things for a change! |
| josedequeso 08.11.2007 15:28 |
If it's any consoloation Bob, the file has been deleted. Though I doubt the deletion did any good in preserving this show. |
| The Real Wizard 08.11.2007 15:38 |
Aha... that's great news! Enough people complained and it made a difference. Thanks to everyone who helped! But unfortunately, with the turn of events in the Cologne 79 topic, I'm not sharing anything here until that one is rectified as well. |
| josedequeso 08.11.2007 15:40 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Aha... that's great news! Enough people complained and it made a difference. Thanks to everyone who helped! But unfortunately, with the turn of events in the Cologne 79 topic, I'm not sharing anything here until that one is rectified as well.Already filed a complaint with megaupload, I recomend everyone else do the same, just say it contains copyrighted music and the file will be deleted. If QZ is not going to take it down, then we will have to do it ourselves. |
| RoyThomasBaker 19.11.2007 22:09 |
So, is there anybody available to post this show or what? A Million thanks in advance. |
| godwar 20.11.2007 02:14 |
lo puedes subir otra vez. gracias de ante mano. |
| doktor.ab 08.11.2008 06:51 |
Anybody could be gentle to share this concert again?$0Thanks in advance! $0 |
| Saint Jiub 09.11.2008 14:33 |
You are not missing anything. I recall that the sound quality was awful. |
| doktor.ab 09.11.2008 15:10 |
Good or awful sound...if you have this show...could you so gentle to share it again? Thanks. |
| Saint Jiub 09.11.2008 15:17 |
Please remind me next weekend as I do not have access to my desktop computer. However, I am almost certain that I deleted it because of the awful sound. |
| doktor.ab 24.11.2008 04:51 |
Hey...anyboud could kindly reupload this show ....possibly loseless? =) Thanks in advance |
| FaBu 16.01.2009 12:51 |
I know this is the wrong forum, but I take a chance sinced I've already tried twice to ask for them in the Request Forum. Is there anybody out there who is willing tø share Nagoya 76-03-23, Fukuoka 76-03-26 and Edinburgh 76-09-02, all in lossless format? I know there has been a certain demand for all these shows lately, All of them have been shared here before, but in lossy format. Thank you very much in advance!! |
| doktor.ab 24.01.2009 09:29 |
Please...anybody could be so kind to share it again this show?thanks in advance |