| Micrówave 01.11.2007 17:04 |
Okay, after seeing all these wacky questions about Freddie, AIDS, Bohemian Rhapsody et all, I think I may have found the source for this. Perhaps this is Treasure Moment's Dad or something. Live, direct from Russia (that's right Serry!), it the Freddie Real Story. (tip: read some of TM's posts first to get used to the langauge gap) link Enjoy, biographers! |
| steven 35638 01.11.2007 19:21 |
I get the feeling M. V. Ahundova thinks being 'gay' is dishonorable. |
| Dusta 01.11.2007 19:54 |
Yes, I get that impression, as well. I will say, though, that there are some good points to be found, there, chiefly, the obsessive focus on his sexuality. Even here on QZ, just about every thread that pops up about Freddie is peppered with comments about his gayness. And, having read a couple of the biographies in question, I will also say that I would much rather have read about the music, then about which lover he was involved with, or, which gay bars he visited on tour stops.
When I think of Freddie Mercury, what immediately comes to mind is his voice, and, the music I associate with him. It seems that this is not the case for many.
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I get the feeling M. V. Ahundova thinks being 'gay' is dishonorable. |
| iron eagle 01.11.2007 21:06 |
Bi is just a lovely cover used by future gays i think the % of actual true 'bi' folks is very very small.... i remember well those college days and early years where i too was 'bi' it was more accepted by others then if you had said you were 'gay' i slept with girls.... oh the horror.... and would pretend they were boys...... i would sleep with boys and OMG i didnt have to pretend they were another sex..... lastly and dont tell anyone, its our little secret, I met Freddie in a GAY bar too.... he was very very very gay....trust me he also smelled really really good..... but you go on and believe what you wanna.......... one can always dream.... ;-)) now back to the merry-making of the gays! |
| steven 35638 01.11.2007 21:23 |
Dusta wrote: Yes, I get that impression, as well. I will say, though, that there are some good points to be found, there, chiefly, the obsessive focus on his sexuality. Even here on QZ, just about every thread that pops up about Freddie is peppered with comments about his gayness. And, having read a couple of the biographies in question, I will also say that I would much rather have read about the music, then about which lover he was involved with, or, which gay bars he visited on tour stops. When I think of Freddie Mercury, what immediately comes to mind is his voice, and, the music I associate with him. It seems that this is not the case for many.There is no doubt that the author had some very good points, and it's safe to say that Queenzone has become corrupted by the very influences its inhabitors recieve when reading a 'Freddie' biography, or from even watching a documentary. Yes, the music is what most intrigues me, not his sex life. I hate celebrity gossip to begin with. I'm very dissapointed when reading a biography, or watching a documentary, and never finding anything about 'how' or 'what' inspired him to write such beautiful music. |
| mrjordy 01.11.2007 21:33 |
Freddie was as gay as the day is long. I think we all know that. Mary Austin was his girlfriend, sure, but after realizing that Freddie was gay (which she says herself, on "Freddie Mercury: The Untold Story, which you can find on youtube.com) she simply became his #1 fag-hag. Perhaps they even slept together. Doesn't make any difference. Freddie may have been experimental with the ladies, at one point in his life, but I'm sure all of that was out of him, by the time he was sporting a moustache, wearing Levis jeans with tank tops and screwing Jim Hutton. For those of you who haven't seen it, The Untold Story is a great biography/documentary on Freddie. It has interviews with Brian, Mary, Peter Freestone, Roger, Montserrat Caballe and just about anyone and everyone close to Freddie. -Jordan |
| Dusta 01.11.2007 22:00 |
I agree. I suppose, on my part that, expecting anything else, written by someone other than the members of Queen, is unrealistic.
It makes no difference, to me, if Freddie was gay, or, not gay. Most of us had no personal relationship with Freddie. Freddie is no longer alive. What does it matter, really, if he was gay, or, bisexual, or, heterosexual, metrosexual, asexual...Why is that so very important?
What would be lovely is a book, written by one of Queen, about the whole process of creating the music, and, working together. I imagine, in that setting, Freddie's gayness would be incidental, rather than central, to the story, and, I'd get to hear that which can't be found elsewhere.
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:Dusta wrote: Yes, I get that impression, as well. I will say, though, that there are some good points to be found, there, chiefly, the obsessive focus on his sexuality. Even here on QZ, just about every thread that pops up about Freddie is peppered with comments about his gayness. And, having read a couple of the biographies in question, I will also say that I would much rather have read about the music, then about which lover he was involved with, or, which gay bars he visited on tour stops. When I think of Freddie Mercury, what immediately comes to mind is his voice, and, the music I associate with him. It seems that this is not the case for many.There is no doubt that the author had some very good points, and it's safe to say that Queenzone has become corrupted by the very influences its inhabitors recieve when reading a 'Freddie' biography, or from even watching a documentary. Yes, the music is what most intrigues me, not his sex life. I hate celebrity gossip to begin with. I'm very dissapointed when reading a biography, or watching a documentary, and never finding anything about 'how' or 'what' inspired him to write such beautiful music. |
| The Real Wizard 01.11.2007 23:38 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I hate celebrity gossip to begin with. I'm very dissapointed when reading a biography, or watching a documentary, and never finding anything about 'how' or 'what' inspired him to write such beautiful music.The musician's sex life is what inspires the music. Everyone knows that... ;) |
| saltnvinegar 02.11.2007 06:25 |
Dusta wrote: Yes, I get that impression, as well. I will say, though, that there are some good points to be found, there, chiefly, the obsessive focus on his sexuality. Even here on QZ, just about every thread that pops up about Freddie is peppered with comments about his gayness. And, having read a couple of the biographies in question, I will also say that I would much rather have read about the music, then about which lover he was involved with, or, which gay bars he visited on tour stops. When I think of Freddie Mercury, what immediately comes to mind is his voice, and, the music I associate with him. It seems that this is not the case for many.Good point. If forums dedicated to Queen are littered with references to his sexuality (and those people are supposed to be fans) there's little wonder why casual music listeners mention it too. I honestly wish we never knew a thing about his sexual preferences and then we could appreciate the band as four guys who made music. I can't deny it, I like him for his looks too but I've had the most illogical responses to this for example 'you're such a fag hag' and 'you do know he was gay, don't you?' Seriously-why the hell should that matter? I'm just a female admiring a man on a purely superficial level! To be honest, his sexuality is the least interesting thing about him and it's an insult to him and the band that it takes up so much discussion time. |
| lyricalassasin77 02.11.2007 09:37 |
Dusta wrote: Yes, I get that impression, as well. I will say, though, that there are some good points to be found, there, chiefly, the obsessive focus on his sexuality. Even here on QZ, just about every thread that pops up about Freddie is peppered with comments about his gayness. And, having read a couple of the biographies in question, I will also say that I would much rather have read about the music, then about which lover he was involved with, or, which gay bars he visited on tour stops. When I think of Freddie Mercury, what immediately comes to mind is his voice, and, the music I associate with him. It seems that this is not the case for many.I must say this is about one of the most brilliant and factual statements I have ever read on here. My sentiments exactly my friend...Well put!<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: I get the feeling M. V. Ahundova thinks being 'gay' is dishonorable. |
| Micrówave 02.11.2007 11:25 |
saltnvinegar wrote: To be honest, his sexuality is the least interesting thing about him and it's an insult to him and the band that it takes up so much discussion time.Yes, exactly. That why I've always wondered why this site can sometimes be littered with the gay agenda. Why would that matter here? Do people go to "Styxzone" and ask if Mr. Roboto was about AIDS? I mean, of course it was, but do the fans really do that to other bands? Do people think that the Stained Class album was about Rob Halford being able to come to terms with his gaydom? Miami Vice wrote: Microwave do you mean how Freddie was in love with a lady named Mary Austin and left her half his estate. And also how he was involved with other women and men in his life, which means he was bisexual.I don't know, I didn't write that. But honestly, Miami Vice, is that why you enjoy his voice? Does that even come into play? I just can't see how. |
| deleted user 02.11.2007 12:02 |
I think my attention span died before the end of the first paragraph. |
| brian-harold-may 26643 02.11.2007 14:48 |
To be honest who really cares. It's like when i say to be people " oh you now brian may?" and i get "That bloke with the really big hair form queen". stop focusing on stuff that doesnt really matter, just listen to the music and enjoy it. |
| goinback 04.11.2007 16:08 |
It makes no difference, to me, if Freddie was gay, or, not gay. Most of us had no personal relationship with Freddie. Freddie is no longer alive. What does it matter, really, if he was gay, or, bisexual, or, heterosexual, metrosexual, asexual...Why is that so very important?Like it or not, it's realistically a huge part of someone's life, and to really understand his music (which is what a forum like this is for) then it's an aspect of him that can't be overlooked. If his sexuality is really not that important, we shouldn't have to go out of our way to NOT talk about it. |
| sparrow 21754 04.11.2007 18:40 |
goinback wrote:Like it or not, it's realistically a huge part of someone's life, and to really understand his music (which is what a forum like this is for) then it's an aspect of him that can't be overlooked. If his sexuality is really not that important, we shouldn't have to go out of our way to NOT talk about it. honestly, i never cared if he was gay or whatever. i care about the music, like most people. i dont doubt some of his music had to do with his sexuality, but there was more to him than that. and if people didnt know his orientation or sex life at all, what would they analize it by? he couldve lamented about a woman, a man, a friend, a foe, or his father or mother, his sister, his exes, his love life and so forth...but does it make a difference if he was gay or not? no. he would still sing about what he was feeling, our knowlege of his orientation can only make conversation if that is what he is looked at for, simply by that. his sexuality did not make freddie mercury the man he was.It makes no difference, to me, if Freddie was gay, or, not gay. Most of us had no personal relationship with Freddie. Freddie is no longer alive. What does it matter, really, if he was gay, or, bisexual, or, heterosexual, metrosexual, asexual...Why is that so very important? |
| Dusta 04.11.2007 19:32 |
I certainly do not expect anyone to overlook Freddie's gayness. That was, afterall, a part of who he was. There is a difference, however, between being aware of something, and, obsessing over it. |
| goinback 04.11.2007 22:01 |
his sexuality did not make freddie mercury the man he was.Actually I'd have to argue it totally made the man he was, or at least the stage persona. Sleeping with the same sex rather than the opposite sex probably isn't that important (and is kind of boring to me too), but SECONDARY experiences surrounding being gay like isolation, alienation, physical violence, etc. are what shape the music and the person. When you go through all that, it's not a minor thing. The music and stage show was his outlet for dealing with a lot of those things. He knew how to "mainstream" it so you didn't have to pay attention to his sexuality to enjoy the music or the shows, but on the other hand when you're "in the know" then there's another level to his art that should be able to be freely talked about and celebrated. |
| Micrówave 05.11.2007 17:11 |
Yes, my mistake. Being gay MADE Freddie strut around on stage and sing like he did. All his songs were about hot gay sex. I'm glad somebody cleared that up, because I couldn't figure out the connection between Seaside Rendezvous and A.P. |
| Vincent. 05.11.2007 22:21 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: I think my attention span died before the end of the first paragraph.I think I definitely agree. D: |
| Barbie Jupiter 06.11.2007 13:26 |
"The musician's sex life is what inspires the music. Everyone knows that... ;)" Yes i totally agree:] Everyone knows that:] |
| Sweetie 07.11.2007 03:13 |
BEING GAY IS WHAT MAKES IT FUUUUUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!! |