QueenZone discussion #1048363
Queen in Houston Dec 11 1977 Silver DVD Japan at tapecity.org
| tgunn2760 11.10.2007 14:44 |
I just started the download, the uploader says the silver DVD is from the original master, has AC3 audio, nice menu and cover. More than 10 seeders now, so the download should be fast. link the thread: link This originated from a real silver DVD purchased from Japan. It did not originate from queenzone unless the boot company got the source from there and used it to make their DVD. It has a menu and chapter marks for each song. I have attached a copy of the cover artwork and a screen shot of the menu for you. It also came with two discs. One silver and one DVD-r that says original master version on it. The DVD-r has a slightly different menu and audio that isn't quite as good as the silver disc. LPCM would have been a nice touch but probably would have meant a DL disc. |
| tgunn2760 11.10.2007 14:48 |
Here's the cover: |
| pittrek 11.10.2007 15:14 |
Could you please upload some screenshots ? I don't want to register at tapecity just to see the screenshots |
| Marknow 11.10.2007 15:15 |
Thanks for the link. |
| SCOM 11.10.2007 15:21 |
pittrek wrote: Could you please upload some screenshots ? I don't want to register at tapecity just to see the screenshotslink link |
| shadysenator 11.10.2007 15:43 |
I have a other silver version from japan : label : Q visual arts / q vision year 2006 nr : Qdvd04 Content : complete Houston show + uniondale 77 as a bonus. Sure got it from japan , though on the sleeve the german age approvel sign is on the sleeve : "freigegeben ohne altersbeschrämkung Though it does not have the quality as the screenshots which were shown here. The sleeve is in the NOTW album artwork style (the robot). Anyone more info about this one ? or do you know which are the other Qdvd01, 02 and 03 or 05 + numbers , which shows do they offer ? Cheers... |
| Bobby_brown 11.10.2007 15:56 |
This must be the same version shared here a while ago. It´s strange that all of a suden everybody has a clean video of this show. I´ll wait for the 928 version of this one. Take care |
| The Real Wizard 11.10.2007 16:10 |
Bobby_brown wrote: This must be the same version shared here a while ago.Of course! Many bootleg labels download from here and package it up for sale. |
| tgunn2760 11.10.2007 16:15 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:I don't know if that's case with this one, the video looks better than the one that was shared here a while back.Bobby_brown wrote: This must be the same version shared here a while ago.Of course! Many bootleg labels download from here and package it up for sale. The audio will tell the tale. If the volume of the audio is as low as the DVD upped here, then it could be the same video. |
| GregZ 11.10.2007 21:06 |
I am the uploader of the show at tapecity. I am very interested to read some comparisons of the DVD I bought and the shows available here. The audio on my DVD is definitely not at a low level. It is quite loud and clear. For some reason there is a second disc (DVD-R) that came with this that has audio that is at a much lower level. For the record, I did not say that this show was from the original master, just that the DVD-R had that printed on it.(see attachment). I have already received one comment from one downloader that says that the video from my DVD is better(only one opinion so far though). |
| Tibor 12.10.2007 00:09 |
Hi Greg, Fist of all, thank you for your upload. I compared your version to the one was seeded here and your seems to be better. (only segments, because I am at 30 % at the moment) The old one was also good, but the picture of your versionseems to be clearer, the black part are really black-not grey. The audio is clean and quite loud. Cheers, Tibor |
| Criss3287 12.10.2007 04:37 |
Could anybody upload it over at The Traders Den? I just registered at Tapecity and then it told me, I was banned because of no reason and will never be unbanned. |
| pittrek 12.10.2007 05:05 |
Thanks for the links. It seems slightly better than pow wow's version. |
| pow wow 12.10.2007 05:18 |
I don't want to share Houston anymore - can I have it back now please ;-) Seriously, I hope the silver boot sells by the bucket load as the only way QP will ever release it is when they see someone else making a fat load of cash out of it. |
| 928 12.10.2007 06:11 |
Bollocks... don't say i'm working with a lesser quality video. I know i'll beat the audio. Damn,gotta grab this one and compare images. Hope i don't have to start again from scratch.....lol. BUT...if it came with a DVD-R that said master on it and that has lower audio,then i would say it was Pow wows with Bobs way of adjusting the audio levels. I'll check where the tape flickers are on both. |
| Shadysenator RHYE 12.10.2007 06:22 |
Check out this site : link I think this is the version which is shared isn't it ? Does anyone know if the original NTSC recording was transfered to PAL ? |
| 928 12.10.2007 06:53 |
Sikke van der Veen wrote: Check out this site : link I think this is the version which is shared isn't it ? Does anyone know if the original NTSC recording was transfered to PAL ?The original version for this show is in fact PAL as that is the system of Argentina,but... it is a different kind of PAL(yes there are many) & if you were to play it in say the UK,then it will have a greenish hue tinge to it ,so the colour is more like NTSC. Snows version will be a cropped,converted to NTSC version to remove the logos and then a stretch & squash to make 16.9 as it was filmed and broadcast in 4.3 fullscreen. A re-encode. Maybe he's YVs brother...lol(j/k Babs) Because of whats been done on the video,i also imagine that the 5.1 audio is a simple 2channel > 5 nero/poweramp job.........may as well just click your Pro-Logic button with the original. Even the poster said that disc 2 was not good & that is meant to be DVD-A......yeah right. I havn't got it to check but as it describes 16.9....i know that what i've said above is a fact for the video. |
| GregZ 12.10.2007 09:48 |
I think it is safe to say now that the Japan DVD I shared at tapecity did not come from the source here. The Japan DVD is NTSC and seems to have better video than the version here. Since the show was in the US I would assume that the show was originally recorded in NTSC. A conversion from NTSC to PAL could explain the slight degradation in video quality. |
| Mr Mercury 12.10.2007 14:50 |
Criss3287 wrote: I just registered at Tapecity and then it told me, I was banned because of no reason and will never be unbanned.The same happened to me. Sent them an email. No doubt I will get a nonsense reply.... hope not though |
| whiskeyjack 12.10.2007 17:09 |
The original version of this concert would be NTSC as it comes from a screen feed as do the Aerosmith,Kiss and Who boot DVD's from Houston there is also allegedly a Led Zeppelin Houston 77 show being hoarded |
| my7of9 12.10.2007 18:06 |
Hi I am new here but something is confusing me I am currently downloading this one plus I have already tried Downloading from another source that was mentioned in this string and one thing for sure is that the audio is really bad in both of them as far as clipping especially it seems on the kick drum and don't get me wrong I am not complaining it just seems like it would be something that somebody would mention along the way somewhere. Unless of course I missed it. Anyway is this sound issue going to be fixed with 928 version? Thanks! |
| Leonardo Venegas 16.10.2007 21:21 |
Wrong post! |
| Leonardo Venegas 16.10.2007 21:23 |
It has been uploaded to Dime a couple of hours ago! Here's the link: link Cheers! |
| seba_979 16.10.2007 21:29 |
Hi, any chance to post in rapidshare? Thanks.! |
| Ale Solan 16.10.2007 22:50 |
seba_979 wrote: Hi, any chance to post in rapidshare? Thanks.!No. |
| seba_979 17.10.2007 02:38 |
Alex Solan. wrote:Thanks. Your gentility is good...seba_979 wrote: Hi, any chance to post in rapidshare? Thanks.!No. |
| Cygnus X-1 17.10.2007 04:28 |
Leonardo Venegas wrote: It has been uploaded to Dime a couple of hours ago! Here's the link: link Cheers!lol, it's banned! Anyone wonder why? ;-) |
| MDNA 17.10.2007 05:52 |
It was banned because two songs are on the "Rare Live" Video below the info on the RSS feed from DIME Ichecked Martin's website and it checks out. Torrent: 166660 Title: Queen, " Definitive Houston", Houston, Texas, December, 11th, 1977, NTSC Pro-Shot DVD Uploaded by: acapulcogold Banned by: DIME Site Mod Reason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but at least 'My Melancholy Blues' and 'Sheer Heart Attack', at least, are officially released, see /index.php?section=information&action=official&sub=rarelive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| The Real Wizard 17.10.2007 12:01 |
Hahaha... gotta love Dime! TTD, anyone? Or will they do the same thing? If not, then there's always Queenzone. You can encode it to VCD format and share it here! |
| Ale Solan 17.10.2007 12:09 |
seba_979 wrote:Why spend hundred fucking hours using rapidshare when you can use torrents? Why not mediafire?Alex Solan. wrote:Thanks. Your gentility is good...seba_979 wrote: Hi, any chance to post in rapidshare? Thanks.!No. |
| Cygnus X-1 17.10.2007 12:13 |
VCD..please Sir, we have SVCD now! Does someone know the label/company who made this? |
| pittrek 17.10.2007 12:13 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Hahaha... gotta love Dime! TTD, anyone? Or will they do the same thing? If not, then there's always Queenzone. You can encode it to VCD format and share it here!At least the TTD guys are normal |
| Bobby_brown 17.10.2007 16:32 |
So, has anyone compared this with the version shared here before? Is it the same source or not? Take care |
| YourValentine 17.10.2007 17:40 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: If not, then there's always Queenzone. You can encode it to VCD format and share it here!You forget that Houston was shared on QZ first. No need to act so disdainfully. |
| Ale Solan 17.10.2007 17:53 |
YourValentine wrote:tsk tskSir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: If not, then there's always Queenzone. You can encode it to VCD format and share it here!You forget that Houston was shared on QZ first. No need to act so disdainfully. I'm sure Bob was talking about those idiots that convert FLAC to MP3, DVD to VCD, etc y share it again right here. Nothing to do with the site and its truly good members. Disregarding some of the oldest ones. |
| seba_979 17.10.2007 21:12 |
Alex Solan. wrote:rapidshare or mediafire its ok..seba_979 wrote:Why spend hundred fucking hours using rapidshare when you can use torrents? Why not mediafire?Alex Solan. wrote:Thanks. Your gentility is good...seba_979 wrote: Hi, any chance to post in rapidshare? Thanks.!No. |
| josedequeso 18.10.2007 00:30 |
YourValentine wrote:I personally think he was being more condescending and patronizing that acting disdainfully.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: If not, then there's always Queenzone. You can encode it to VCD format and share it here!You forget that Houston was shared on QZ first. No need to act so disdainfully. But don’t you worry Bob, I’ll have the VCD up on rapidshare by the end of the week :-) |
| The Real Wizard 18.10.2007 01:28 |
Cygnus X-1 wrote: VCD..please Sir, we have SVCD now!Haha... but of course! Alex Solan. wrote:I love having people stand up for me!YourValentine wrote:tsk tsk I'm sure Bob was talking about those idiots that convert FLAC to MP3, DVD to VCD, etc y share it again right here. Nothing to do with the site and its truly good members. Disregarding some of the oldest ones.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: If not, then there's always Queenzone. You can encode it to VCD format and share it here!You forget that Houston was shared on QZ first. No need to act so disdainfully. Indeed, I wasn't talking about the original Houston share (which I have said was perhaps the greatest share here ever, more than once). Just poking some fun, 'tis all. |
| YourValentine 18.10.2007 04:13 |
"Indeed, I wasn't talking about the original Houston share (which I have said was perhaps the greatest share here ever, more than once). Just poking some fun, 'tis all." Well, Bob - the thread is about Houston, right? I don't see the connection to non-existing VCD shares on Queenzone. After all, you are not Bryan's Permed Poodle who used to turn every thread on the board into a rant about Paul Rodgers. It's not really friendly - not to the guy who shared Houston (pow wow) and actually not to me who seeded it, either. |
| Roger's Beard 18.10.2007 05:34 |
It's been pulled by tapecity as well. Pathetic really. maybe I'll go and buy it here instead - NOT!!! link Did anybody get it so it can be seeded here? Thanks |
| Cygnus X-1 18.10.2007 07:24 |
pootle1 wrote: It's been pulled by tapecity as well. Pathetic really. maybe I'll go and buy it here instead - NOT!!! link Did anybody get it so it can be seeded here? ThanksWTF - 1129,99$ for a copy of Houston??? Is this dude mental???????? Sure I buy it, it's cheaper than the 8.999.99$ I spend for a copy of MSG'83, but I will NOT share it!! |
| MDNA 18.10.2007 07:35 |
And that one is not even the same as the one previously on Tapecity. It is probably the one we all now with the bad picture and stripes all over the place. The one that was being seeded is this one: link acording to this review the picture is much clear and with no stripes. |
| The Real Wizard 18.10.2007 11:56 |
YourValentine wrote: It's not really friendly - not to the guy who shared Houston (pow wow) and actually not to me who seeded it, either.Well, then I apologize... but still, that's not how I intended it. As for getting the best version of Houston, people should grab this one: /queenzone/1029072.html It's a bit better than the Japanese silver. It seems the Japanese one is the above version converted to NTSC, making it slightly worse. Spread the good word! |
| dsmeer 18.10.2007 14:03 |
Can someone share this in the trader 's den? |
| GregZ 18.10.2007 17:31 |
dsmeer wrote: Can someone share this in the trader 's den?Wouldn't it just get banned there too? Sir GH, have you even seen the Japanese Silver version? Everyone that has says that it is slightly better than the PAL version. Probably because it was never converted from the original NTSC format. |
| tgunn2760 18.10.2007 18:56 |
GregZ wrote:I have both versions, and I rate them about the same. For North American residents I would say grab the NTSC version. It has a menu and chapters, but no music on the menus. Mine, has decompressed AC3 audio, menus with music, chapters, is in PAL, and the audio was doubled in Goldwave.dsmeer wrote: Can someone share this in the trader 's den?Wouldn't it just get banned there too? Sir GH, have you even seen the Japanese Silver version? Everyone that has says that it is slightly better than the PAL version. Probably because it was never converted from the original NTSC format. Grab both if your player can play both, it won't hurt. Was it deleted from tapecity? I had no idea. Lucky I grabbed it while it was available. It's an excellent DVD. |
| 928 19.10.2007 06:47 |
Got this version then folks & had a peak....... Verdict:....Nice Cover It is the same video,the tells are still there, and so is a conversion of Powsies nice PAL but now darkened & on the way to cascade. and It is the same lossy distorted audio. I know the maker needs a dictionary to learn what the word definitive means...(silver or not)! |
| pittrek 19.10.2007 07:46 |
928 wrote: Got this version then folks & had a peak....... Verdict:....Nice Cover It is the same video,the tells are still there, and so is a conversion of Powsies nice PAL but now darkened & on the way to cascade. and It is the same lossy distorted audio. I know the maker needs a dictionary to learn what the word definitive means...(silver or not)!Finally someone who had time to compare the 2 DVDs. Thanks, and BTW how is the progress on your version ? |
| tgunn2760 20.10.2007 23:38 |
928 wrote: Got this version then folks & had a peak....... Verdict:....Nice Cover It is the same video,the tells are still there, and so is a conversion of Powsies nice PAL but now darkened & on the way to cascade. and It is the same lossy distorted audio. I know the maker needs a dictionary to learn what the word definitive means...(silver or not)!It looked and sounded fine to me on a TV...I will have to wait and see...AND HEAR....your version to "see" how good lossless audio sounds. |
| my7of9 21.10.2007 11:25 |
It looked and sounded fine to me on a TV...I will have to wait and see...AND HEAR....your version to "see" how good lossless audio sounds.
As far as lossless audio goes just remember a chain is only as strong as the weakest link. For example: If somebody says that they cannot hear a difference between an mp3 and wav chances are they are using: 1.Cheap Headphones 2.Cheap Boombox 3.Lesser expensive speakers or stereo. 4.TV Speakers 5.Bad Ears My point is if what you are using to listen with is no better than the mp3, ac3, whatever you have got then by upgrading to a lossless format is not going to necessarily sound that much better since your equipment will not reproduce the better sound anyway whether it be TV speakers, a boombox, cheap wires, $20 Headphones, your ears or whatever. On the other hand I can tell you that if you do have some decent equipment and have as I said no weak links in your chain you will surely notice a difference between any lossless sound and it's compressed twin by simply A/Bing them. While I believe that the difference is subjective for many reasons I can always tell a compressed source almost immediately. I just wanted to write my thoughts on this for those that are not audio enthusiasts so that they might get more enjoyment out of their music. "If you have any weak links upgrade them when and if feasible!" |
| tgunn2760 24.10.2007 13:40 |
my7of9 wrote:It looked and sounded fine to me on a TV...I will have to wait and see...AND HEAR....your version to "see" how good lossless audio sounds. As far as lossless audio goes just remember a chain is only as strong as the weakest link. For example: If somebody says that they cannot hear a difference between an mp3 and wav chances are they are using: 1.Cheap Headphones 2.Cheap Boombox 3.Lesser expensive speakers or stereo. 4.TV Speakers 5.Bad Ears My point is if what you are using to listen with is no better than the mp3, ac3, whatever you have got then by upgrading to a lossless format is not going to necessarily sound that much better since your equipment will not reproduce the better sound anyway whether it be TV speakers, a boombox, cheap wires, $20 Headphones, your ears or whatever. On the other hand I can tell you that if you do have some decent equipment and have as I said no weak links in your chain you will surely notice a difference between any lossless sound and it's compressed twin by simply A/Bing them. While I believe that the difference is subjective for many reasons I can always tell a compressed source almost immediately. I just wanted to write my thoughts on this for those that are not audio enthusiasts so that they might get more enjoyment out of their music. "If you have any weak links upgrade them when and if feasible!" I CAN tell the difference between MPEG audio and AC3 or PCM audio on my Panasonic LCD TV. It has decent audio. One of these years I may hook it up to my stereo stereo, and that should sound better...LOL The original Queen DVD that was upped here had low volume AC3 audio. The DVD that was upped at Tapecity sounds much, much better. I expect the upcoming DVD with lossless audio to sound better still, but I don't expect too much of a difference. I hope I am wrong, but I am curious to see if the difference is noticeable on my TV. I have a Zappa boot with lossless audio that just sounds amazing. Not all DVDs with lossless audio sound that good. |
| deltazulu 25.10.2007 12:38 |
can someone please upload this show to ttd? |
| tgunn2760 25.10.2007 23:03 |
deltazulu wrote: can someone please upload this show to ttd?We are all waiting for 928 to up his version, with lossless mono LPCM audio. Be patient, it's coming. |
