| Fernando Boero 06.10.2007 08:40 |
So, Is there any chance to ReEdit the Cross Album's with the B'Sides Bonus Tracks ? Why this album are out of catalog ? Roger and company can't ReEdit some like this ? Shove It 01 - Shove It 02 - Cowboys & Indians 03 - Contact 04 - Heaven For Everyone (Freddie vocals) 05 - Stand Up For Love 06 - Love On A Tightrope (Like An Animal) 07 - Love Lies Bleeding (She Was a Wicked Wily Waitress) 08 - Rough Justice ---Bonus Tracks--- 09 - Feel The Force (On USA release only) 10 - Manipulator 11 - Heaven For Everyone (Roger vocals) 12 - Shove It -- The 2nd Shelf Mix 13 - Manipulator (Extended) Mad, Bad, And Dangerous To Know 01 - Top Of The World Ma 02 - Liar 03 - Closer To You 04 - Breakdown 05 - Penetration Guru 06 - Power To Love 07 - Sister Blue 08 - Foxy Lady 09 - Better Things 10 - Passion For Trash 11 - Old Men (Lay Down) 12 - Final Destination ---Bonus Tracks--- 13 - In Charge Of My Heart (12" Version) 14 - Power To Love (Extended) 15 - Liar (Extended) Blue Rock 01 - Bad Attitude 02 - New Dark Ages 03 - Dirty Mind 04 - Baby, It's Alright 05 - Ain't Put Nothing Down 06 - The Also Rans 07 - Millionaire 08 - Put It All Down To Love 09 - Hand Of Fools 10 - Life Changes ---Bonus Tracks--- 11 - Heartland 12 - Man On Fire (Live) 13 - Life Changes (Single Version) |
| DavidRFuller 06.10.2007 12:24 |
They won't because they didn't sell good. They should have, but they didn't. |
| Leaky Luke 06.10.2007 13:56 |
Bad promoting I'd say. If the band was promoted better they would become bigger.. |
| Fernando Boero 06.10.2007 15:11 |
I'll agree but I think that if they ReEdit the 3 album separate with bonus track and selling through the queen portal to worldwide(for example)... I'm sure that they have a relative decent number of buyers... It's not value ReEdit for one country but if ReEdit for all the worldwide they must sell good (I believe) |
| jeffuk49 06.10.2007 15:12 |
could have been an awesome gritty band with better promo |
| Serry... 06.10.2007 16:31 |
Albums were released on different labels -> too much "paper work" must be done, but in the end who the fuck will buy "Shove It" with bonus tracks even in our days? |
| brENsKi 07.10.2007 04:56 |
no record company is going to waste time re-pressing cds that didn't sell well first time round. |
| Fernando Boero 07.10.2007 12:48 |
But I don't think that "Fun In The Space" and "Strange Frontier" having sell good anytime And they're still in catalog !! |
| Jjeroen 07.10.2007 16:08 |
Fernando Boero wrote: But I don't think that "Fun In The Space" and "Strange Frontier" having sell good anytime And they're still in catalog !!They are still in catalog because they sold so badly that even after YEARS that first and only pressing still hasn't sold out! |
| Leaky Luke 07.10.2007 17:09 |
Jjeroen wrote:LOL! that might be damn right!Fernando Boero wrote: But I don't think that "Fun In The Space" and "Strange Frontier" having sell good anytime And they're still in catalog !!They are still in catalog because they sold so badly that even after YEARS that first and only pressing still hasn't sold out! |
| DavidRFuller 07.10.2007 18:59 |
Fun In Space got to #18 in the UK and Strange Frontier wasn't a flop. All to blame on poor marketing though... |
| Penetration_Guru 07.10.2007 19:10 |
DavidRFuller wrote: Fun In Space got to #18 in the UK and Strange Frontier wasn't a flop. All to blame on poor marketing though...What did the CD reissues get to, as THAT's the repsentative figure... |
| Micrówave 08.10.2007 11:37 |
Leaky Luke wrote: Bad promoting I'd say. If the band was promoted better they would become bigger..Correction: Bad I'd say. If the band was better they would become bigger. |
| silver_salmon 08.10.2007 14:59 |
Because (May & Taylor)+Paul Rodgers or any superknown concert Rerererereedit with digital surround, dts, 5.1, blah! it´s more profitable than a few fans like us. The cross sound great!!! much better than Strange Frontier or Electric Fire but Queen Productions never think on the fans. |
| Serry... 09.10.2007 00:17 |
silver_salmon wrote: The cross sound great!!! much better than Strange Frontier or Electric Fire but Queen Productions never think on the fans.Queen Productions is not in charge of the Nightjar Productions releases. Do you really believe that Shove It is better than Electric Fire? |
| Benn 09.10.2007 06:53 |
The Cross failed when Parlophone discovered that Freddie was on his way out. The pressure was on for the band to then complete the "Innuendo" album and promote that fully. Because of this, any backing for The Cross was removed (remember they had a HUGE following in continental Europe, particularly in Germany) as it was felt that, should Roger become *too successful* with his secondary project, his on-going attention would be taken away from Queen. Parlophone were also scared of the fact that the members of Queen might decide (however remote it seems, it was certainly a possibility) to dissolve the band in advance of Freddie dieing so that there was absolutely no pressure on Freddie to feel that he had to go on recording. Seeing that and wanting to protect their investment, Parlophone saw it apropriate to leave Roger will few options OTHER THAN Queen as a working band. Sadly, a great band never really got the chance to be anything more than they were. Blue Rock is simply the best solo album from any of the members of Queen from the quality of the writing to the production and overall sound. It's so sad that the powers that be were so short-sighted as this band could have been really good. |
| Fernando Boero 09.10.2007 10:31 |
Mad Bad and Blue Rock are really lot of better album than Electric Fire..... Electric Fire suck....is the worse album |
| Benn 09.10.2007 12:08 |
Electric Fire's a great album, but totally incomperable to anything that The Cross did - it's like comparing a Porsche to a Skoda....... |
| silver_salmon 09.10.2007 13:57 |
Serry in my personal opinion...Shove It is better than Electric Fire.....just with heaven for everyone (roger or fred version) is enough to confirmate this. Other thing is that Shove it become after Strange Frontier and the first it´s better like an album pop (see like a taylor album....both have all the songs written by Rog...except the covers). Electric Fire become after Happiness.....this make for me to Electric Fire the very worst Taylor work. I repeat it´s my personal opinion..... |
| PieterMC 09.10.2007 15:00 |
Benn wrote: remember they had a HUGE following in continental Europe, particularly in GermanyHuge?? |
| Serry... 10.10.2007 00:19 |
silver_salmon wrote: Serry in my personal opinion...Shove It is better than Electric Fire.....just with heaven for everyone (roger or fred version) is enough to confirmate this. Electric Fire become after Happiness.....this make for me to Electric Fire the very worst Taylor work.I see your point and respect your opinion, but in my opinion we can't judge about the albums only by the good tracks from them. QII doesn't contain any big hit (SSOR is not something that we can call as the most famous and greatest Queen track) - it's good as an album, not as compilation of good songs. Same about EF - it's more album, than Shove It is which is more Roger' solo album, than the Cross' one by the way (just my opinion too). Happiness is better than everything was done by Rog in solo work, I agree here, but Shove It with all those pop-synth fillers... Less songs Roger wrote for a Cross album - better an album was (he wrote only 2 songs for Blue Rock). |
| Benn 10.10.2007 06:45 |
Huge by way of the fact that they were continually promoted there and the albums & singles sold consistently. Certainly not huge in the truest sense... |
| Micrówave 10.10.2007 12:00 |
PieterMC wrote:Their fan club didn't last long. Heard the guy died.Benn wrote: remember they had a HUGE following in continental Europe, particularly in GermanyHuge?? |
| GiantSpider 13.10.2007 09:26 |
What have Parlophone got to do with it, weren't The Cross originally signed to Virgin? I like Electric Fire much better than Shove Personally, but the two "proper" Cross albums are the best Queen solo projects ever. |
| rmp 13.10.2007 10:56 |
The Cross weren´t HUGE in Germany, but I guess there was a solid fan base. The "Mad Bad and Dangerous" album reached number 47 in the German longplay charts; a quite good result for an "unknown" newcomer band. I remember the album received good critics in German music magazines, because it was straight and uncomplicated rock. I heard "Power To Love" a few times on radio that time. But "Blue Rock" failed totally, because it is totally overproduced and not in the same "dry" style like "Mad, Bad..."! There was some promo, more than other bands got! I remember whole-sided ads in music magazines and also a live TV appearence at Berlin Funkausstellung with "New Dark Ages". I think the main problem were the three albums in three different styles in four years. Especially in Germany people are very loyal to their favourite musicians, but they don´t like big changes! I´m begging for a "Best Of The Cross" or reissues with bonus-tracks, too, but I guess that will not happen. Easiest way would be a Queenonline only CD relase. They could produce a few thousands of the discs; a stock of this small number would not touch too much the plenty of millions they earned from us...... In fact of the boring live disc releases over the last years and the unreleased things the fans REALLY want I´m feeling constantly ass-kicked by my favourite band since many years |
| Pim Derks 14.10.2007 16:23 |
Benn wrote: Sadly, a great band never really got the chance to be anything more than they were. Blue Rock is simply the best solo album from any of the members of Queen from the quality of the writing to the production and overall sound.Maybe that's because Roger was barely involved in writing Blue Rock (3 out of 10 tracks)? |