QueenZone discussion #1032070

HistoryGirl wrote: I agree with Microwave, but for a completely different reason. His reasons first: He has a point with the Muslim one...that might be a big hang up. But I think a black male will be elected before a female. But Obama will not be the next president for one reason: his lack of political experience. Granted some see this as refreshing and meaning he's less corrupt **cough BS cough** but like it or not most people in this country agree that we are in a damn big mess...even Republicans are starting to agree with that (FINALLY!). Most people want a confident, experienced politician to pull us out of this mess, because they aren't willing to hand over the reigns to someone without the experience in a time like this. Maybe if we weren't in such a dung heap more people would be open to the idea as there is farther to fall before you have to start getting worried. But as we have lost a significant amount of that "cushion" in the last two terms, most people just want to get out and back up to where we were without taking a chance on someone who has no experience. Like it or not, Hilary has the experience.

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: "Mayor of the nation" perhaps, but I don't seem many Americans wanting him.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: "Mayor of the nation" perhaps, but I don't seem many Americans wanting him.

For the record, not many New Yorkers want him either.

Mr.Jingles wrote: How about Stewart/Colbert '08?

HistoryGirl wrote: ^^ I actually agree with you on a few things, Caspar. First off, it's a no brainer that Guiliani will get the Repubican nod...he's still a hero to many people for the way he handled 9-11 and he's cenrist enough in his party (pro-choice even) that he won't alienate the people who would normally not think of voting Republican. However, all of this amounts to nothing, because the Republicans will not win this election. They shouldn't even bother running a candidate, because there is no possible way that the nation will elect another Republican. The Democrats have this election locked up, all they have to do is pick their candidate. The only people who will vote Republican are the die hards, and they would vote that anyway. The people who vote alternate parties depending on how they feel at the time (most of the nation) will not be voting Republican, even those with Republican sympathies for one reason: The Republicans waited too long. The die hards are sticking with the direction the country is going now, and that's fine. But even the moderates are fleeing like rats from a sinking ship, because they finally realized they are in danger of imminent political death. But for those who would have normally stuck with the Republicans, it's too little, too late. They waited far too long to leave; far too long to stand up and say, "You know what? I don't think I like the way this is going,"...all the leaving now smacks of what it is: saving your political butt, and even the thickest of Americans can see that. I do think this election will lead to higher vote numbers for third party candidates (which I whole-heartedly support), but those numbers have been rising for the last 4 elections or so. More third party votes yes...but not a huge percentage, as most people who are looking for a new candidate are going to go with the Democrats, because there is enough of an atmosphere of fear about the future that most won't risk a vote on a candidate who doesn't have a chance. Barring a major shift or crisis between now and the election, my prediction is massive swing of votes to the Democrats, who are going to walk away with this. A moderate upswing in the number of third party voters, but something in line with the increases in overall third party votes over the last few election cycles. After that, we return to the same crap as always...same problems that never get solved. And personally, if George Carlin was on the ballot, I'd vote for him in a heart beat!

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: ...ruin the democratic candidates reputation or perceived integrity...

HistoryGirl wrote: I agree totally...people are misled easily. It's why we have the media. Excellent quote, BTW...I'm not familiar with that one but will definately have to remember it. I would seriously be shocked if the Republicans managed to win this election, and embarassed even further at America. But I'd be further pissed with the Democrats because they have it all right now. If they loose the election, it's because they actively lost it, not because of anything the Republicans did. If that manages to happen though, then my ideas about moving to Europe when I'm done with Masters Degree number 2 are going to become far more than just a wishful fantasy...LOL. I know you can't escape corruption and stupidity, but if I have to be surrounded by it I'd rather be surrounded by it in a place on this world that has beautiful museums, architecture, and long, rich cultures.