AmeriQueen 28.07.2007 04:25 |
I say it's 'The Works'. a) Only 9 tracks. B) The band was at it's highest tension point and it slightly shows to a trained Queen ear. c) Sounds to me like the most commercially conscious album of all, the construction of several songs seem to have a more intended purpose rather than a natural creative spark of music. Tear It Up and Hammer To Fall was Brian's attempt to rebel against Queen's recent sound developments by punching out two heavy rock tracks. Is This The World We Created? for Queen was to Live Aid what Say It's Not True was to 46664, a preachy developed song with a purpose. It's a Hard Life was a conscious attempt to rework and cash in on Bohemian Rhapsody, and Back Chat and Man On The Prowl felt like sequels to Another One Bites The Dust and Crazy Little Thing Called Love, their two biggest hits ever in the USA, and both prior to the off-putting Hot Space fiaxco. That being said, The Works is still a classic masterpiece of music. What album would you guys rate as their weakest? |
QueenNewcastle 28.07.2007 04:27 |
not to have a go at you mate, but Back Chat wasn't on The Works.... it was on Hot Space.... |
Matias Merçeauroix 28.07.2007 04:40 |
Hot Space and The Miracle. |
goinback 28.07.2007 05:12 |
Another vote for The Works as worst album. For a "singles" album (a bunch of individual songs that can be placed in any order without much of a theme), Hot Space is at least more fun. |
Fairy Fellers Masterstroke 28.07.2007 05:49 |
<b><font color=0066FF>? Bad Horsie wrote: Hot Space and The Miracle.For gods sake: Hot Space definitly not! its just the prove to tell how queen can make every poor to good music. its not classic queen, but its very cool. and the miracle: its one of the best rock albums. I want it all, kashoggis ship, was it all worth it, its not just breakthru or miracle (single). Worst Album? There isnt one. just one, i do not here often. flash. but thats cool, too. but not good for every mood. ;-) |
pow wow 28.07.2007 06:14 |
The next one! |
Griffin 28.07.2007 07:00 |
Greatest Hits III. some interesting points about The Works, tho I disagree imho, because many folks have already observed Queen were always a singles band, and Hot Space -- aside from the sheer brilliance of "Under Pressure" -- is a ringer. I would go so far as to say Queen Rocks is a better collection than GHIII. I listen to The Miracle less than I listen to Flash Gordon, the period 1984-1989 is what I listen to least, mainly for me the best stuff is 1971-1977, along with The Game and Innuendo |
Winter Land Man 28.07.2007 07:21 |
Ha, I can't choose. Hmm. |
maxpower 28.07.2007 09:00 |
Hot Space |
Carol! the Musical 28.07.2007 10:01 |
Punkrocker555 wrote: not to have a go at you mate, but Back Chat wasn't on The Works.... it was on Hot Space....There we go. |
Bobby_brown 28.07.2007 10:15 |
The Game or the Works. Take care |
steven 35638 28.07.2007 11:19 |
For me it's got to be either The Works or The Game. |
Raststätte-Knödel 28.07.2007 11:48 |
The Miracle I think.. Hot Space is a really nice album I think, it's not as bad as everyone says |
M.H 28.07.2007 12:00 |
I was thinking about this the other day. I know that I play the works album the least, but I play songs from it relativley frequently, mainly Hammer To Fall, It's A Hard Life, World We Created and I Want To Break Free. The latter is one of my favorite songs (and my favorite video). When I listen to The Works, it feels rushed. But this is not due to the amount of tracks, as The Game has but ten tracks, and this is one of the outstanding Queen albums. I think it is because as others have said, it is was at the highest point of tension for the band. This does show, with tracks like Man On The Prowl, and Machines. These tracks have some good qualities, but they seem like they are simply filler inners. When I listen to this album, and the stress and angst in the band at the time, I cant help thinking that Queen did this album because they wanted to try and keep Queen alive. I remember John in an interview saying there was disapointment after the Hot Space album. So, in a way the works was trying to get back on their feet almost. This is not to say that it is a particularly bad album, it is far better than many albums of other artists at the time (as Queen were, and are the best). I like Freddies vocals and it has some of my favorite songs, but it does not compare to Queens other albums. Many people say that Hot Space was Queens worst, but I think that Hot Space is a different direction for Queen, and this is the reason it is attacked so much. Again, doesnt rate like Queens other albums, but it is a fun album with some good songs, particularly when played live. But, when I say that, I do enjoy this album when I listen to it, so whilst I have a lot of ideas, but it is a hard one to answer. Even harder question though, which album is their best? Take care all =) M.H |
Matias Merçeauroix 28.07.2007 12:35 |
Fairy Fellers Masterstroke wrote:Shut up, moron<b><font color=0066FF>? Bad Horsie wrote: Hot Space and The Miracle.For gods sake: Hot Space definitly not! its just the prove to tell how queen can make every poor to good music. its not classic queen, but its very cool. and the miracle: its one of the best rock albums. I want it all, kashoggis ship, was it all worth it, its not just breakthru or miracle (single). Worst Album? There isnt one. just one, i do not here often. flash. but thats cool, too. but not good for every mood. ;-) |
deleted user 28.07.2007 14:05 |
I'd have to say Flash Gordon is the worst. There's not too many songs with vocals in them. Even though this album is my least favorite, I must admit, it's still very good. As for Hot Space, I didn't think it was that bad, it was just something different. Many of the songs actually sounded awesome live. Even though The Works has many synthesizers and has a 'pop' feel to it, I still enjoy it very much. Hammer To Fall, Tear It Up, I Want To Break Free and It's A Hard Life are superior songs. I rather like The Miracle and The Game. They have many awesome songs. I love those albums (although the overall sound on The Miracle sounds extremely dated). That's my opinion. :) Have a nice day. :) Queen Alec |
Nathan 28.07.2007 14:27 |
Greatest Hits III. |
Raststätte-Knödel 28.07.2007 15:37 |
Return of the champions |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 28.07.2007 16:15 |
Flash Gordon maybe? |
ScaramoucheFandango 28.07.2007 16:26 |
Jazz |
DanielT 28.07.2007 16:45 |
Flash Gordon Jazz and Hot Space (but I think Back Chat, Staying Power and Las Palabras de Amor are great songs) |
deleted user 28.07.2007 17:29 |
Greatest Hits III |
rosedewitt 28.07.2007 18:11 |
i also don't like gh3, that's really the worst of queen i think. |
its_a_hard_life 26994 28.07.2007 18:52 |
Flash Gorden. |
stateside fan 28.07.2007 23:55 |
The Miracle....only because of Delilah |
john bodega 29.07.2007 00:52 |
stateside fan wrote: The Miracle....only because of DelilahIsn't that a little like blaming Sirhan Sirhan for the shooting of JFK? |
violonbleu 29.07.2007 04:51 |
AmeriQueen wrote: I say it's 'The Works'. a) Only 9 tracks. B) The band was at it's highest tension point and it slightly shows to a trained Queen ear. c) Sounds to me like the most commercially conscious album of all, the construction of several songs seem to have a more intended purpose rather than a natural creative spark of music. Tear It Up and Hammer To Fall was Brian's attempt to rebel against Queen's recent sound developments by punching out two heavy rock tracks. Is This The World We Created? for Queen was to Live Aid what Say It's Not True was to 46664, a preachy developed song with a purpose. It's a Hard Life was a conscious attempt to rework and cash in on Bohemian Rhapsody, and Back Chat and Man On The Prowl felt like sequels to Another One Bites The Dust and Crazy Little Thing Called Love, their two biggest hits ever in the USA, and both prior to the off-putting Hot Space fiaxco. That being said, The Works is still a classic masterpiece of music. What album would you guys rate as their weakest?"The Game", only because of "Don't Lose Your Head". |
Daniel vZ 29.07.2007 05:31 |
Or was it the "Fun It" on the Sheer Heart Attack album?? I think Greatest Hits III is the worst. |
lyricalassasin77 29.07.2007 11:03 |
That's an easy pick. The one Queen album I refuse to add to my collection.....The Flash Gordon Soundtrack. Just a collection of a bunch of experimental sounds and only 2 real songs on it. |
Nathan 29.07.2007 11:07 |
I'd also have to say Flash Gordon. My only real gripe about that album is that (in my opinion) there are too many excerpts from the film sprinkled in amongst the music. On one hand, the alternate version of Flash is a great way to start the album. It is a soundtrack album after all and an introduction like that is only a good thing. But I felt that the sound effects and voices got a bit distracting as the album progressed. If it hadn't had as many interruptions like that, it would have been a fantastic album. |
steven 35638 29.07.2007 11:16 |
I never identified Flash Gordon as being a 'Queen album.' I actually interpret it as being a side project that gave Queen a whole new collection of fans. That being said I consider it being one of Queen's greatest moments. |
goinback 29.07.2007 17:11 |
Yeah it's hard to say Flash Gordon is the worst album because it's sort of a weird anomoly...some people really get it and some don't. It's hard to see that many different sides to a simple album like The Works though (which is why I picked The Works). |
HeY tHeRe DiLiLaH 29.07.2007 17:44 |
NONE NONE AND NONE |
QueenTaylor 29.07.2007 19:12 |
I like them all really, but I'd have to say Flash Gordon. |
tarik 31.07.2007 15:50 |
flash gordon is the worst, the works , jazz and queen 2 are my favorites. |
louvox 31.07.2007 16:25 |
My vote goes to “A kind of Magic” A truly boring, uninspired & flat sounding recording. Four individuals simply going through the motions. They couldn’t even make up their minds whether to make this a soundtrack or not. |
kenny8 13.08.2007 02:33 |
pow wow wrote: The next one!Exactly, the worst is yet to come |
john bodega 13.08.2007 02:41 |
kenny8 wrote:If the album were at least 'decent', would you still say it's the worst just to prove a point?pow wow wrote: The next one!Exactly, the worst is yet to come |
Poo, again 13.08.2007 04:23 |
Flash. |
The Fairy King 13.08.2007 04:44 |
Flash Gordon Dunno if we should count this as a genuine Queen album, cause it doesn't work as one. Awesome as a soundtrack though. Live Killers blows when it comes to sound quality, but the not so standard tracklist makes it something special. Live Magic is horrible though, for obvious reasons. Great cover art. Greatest Hits III is the worst compilation released by the lads imo. Again some nice cover art. Why do most of you pick The Works as the worst album?? Overall it's really an high quality album. With exception of maybe Tear It Up. I pick Hot Space. Why? Cuase i can't pick Flash Gordon. xD |
stephane begin 13.08.2007 06:53 |
it s defenetly hot space the worst album, just listen to Freddie on the dvd live at the bowl, he feel bad about the album and he almost excuse himself on stage befor signing stayin power, he said that it s just a bloody record, who care what people say,(i love stayin power by the way). the only good song with las palabras de amor on that album. remember that in 1982 was the last tour in USA people lost interest because of the sound of body langage. they never had a hit after that in the US. Stephane Begin, Quebec City Canada |
The Fairy King 13.08.2007 07:17 |
stephane begin wrote: it s defenetly hot space the worst album, just listen to Freddie on the dvd live at the bowl, he feel bad about the album and he almost excuse himself on stage befor signing stayin power, he said that it s just a bloody record, who care what people say,(i love stayin power by the way). the only good song with las palabras de amor on that album. remember that in 1982 was the last tour in USA people lost interest because of the sound of body langage. they never had a hit after that in the US. Stephane Begin, Quebec City CanadaHe didn't excuse for anything Queen did, especially Hot Space. And Body Language was a relative big hit in the US, hence the inclusion on the American Greatest Hits. The US lost interest in The Works era, because they didn't tour the US and some say the Break Free video...but i think the lack of publicity is the main reason. |
breakthru1989 14.08.2007 18:13 |
i see flash gordon as an soundtrack and a damn good one. the album suits with the movie. i go for HOT SPACE |
mike hunt 15.08.2007 01:43 |
I also see flash as a soundtrack album, but as for the real queen albums I'm usually debating hot space, the works, magic, and the miracle for worst queen album. My mind always changes, but the miracle I think is their worst. Hot space is a bit underated. |
The Fairy King 15.08.2007 03:31 |
*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: ANATO is shit........ To much goin on... The Works is the best.WTF? |
louvox 15.08.2007 10:45 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:Why does everyone believe in this nonsense. Most in the US lost interest in Queen because of the material they were producing. Most of the songs were simply shitty!stephane begin wrote: it s defenetly hot space the worst album, just listen to Freddie on the dvd live at the bowl, he feel bad about the album and he almost excuse himself on stage befor signing stayin power, he said that it s just a bloody record, who care what people say,(i love stayin power by the way). the only good song with las palabras de amor on that album. remember that in 1982 was the last tour in USA people lost interest because of the sound of body langage. they never had a hit after that in the US. Stephane Begin, Quebec City CanadaHe didn't excuse for anything Queen did, especially Hot Space. And Body Language was a relative big hit in the US, hence the inclusion on the American Greatest Hits. The US lost interest in The Works era, because they didn't tour the US and some say the Break Free video...but i think the lack of publicity is the main reason. Not because of not touring or some stupid video. |
Micrówave 15.08.2007 11:55 |
The Fairy King wrote: Greatest Hits III is the worst compilation released by the lads imo.Greatest Hits III is the worst compilation released ever. Interesting, this is Guitar Player magazine's review for the album when it came out... This isn't exactly a greatest hits collection for Queen's American fans, as it focuses on latter day European releases and includes live tracks with Elton John and George Michael that were recorded after singer Freddie Mercury's death. Fair-weather fans won't find "Bohemian Rhapsody" or "Killer Queen"-style crowd pleasers here, but they'll still get the trademark Brian May tone and licks. "You Don't Fool Me" is vintage May with its extended solo replete with echo-laden harmonies. He favors a dirtier tone on "Let Me Live," and adds a signature guitar-choir flourish at the end. Fans of May's classic "Brighton Rock" cadenza will dig "Princes of the Universe," in which he unleasehes a ferocious, unaccompanied break that provides a glimpse into his twisted, dark side. With every tune on Greatest Hits III, May re-establishes himself as one of the most indentifiable guitarists of all time. In addition to the stellar guitar work, any Queen record is going to be a great vocal showcase, and this is no execption, with all four members (the late Freddie Mercury in particular) in great form. The new remix of "Another One Bites The Dust" - featuring the Fugees' Wyclef Jean - shows how far-reaching Queen's influence has been over the years, and George Michael's vocal on "Somebody To Love" sounds so good it makes you wonder why the remaining members don't team up with him and take this show on the road. |
Drowse1 15.08.2007 13:44 |
Seems really weird to me that people slag off The Works. I rate it as my third fave album after Q2 & ANATO. I suppose Flash Gordon soundtrack would be the worst but then again it was made especially for the film so it won't include loads of great tracks, more tunes to fit the film. PS. Wasn't Delilah on Innuendo and not The Miracle? |
goinback 15.08.2007 14:07 |
remember that in 1982 was the last tour in USA people lost interest because of the sound of body langage. they never had a hit after that in the US.Actually "Radio Ga-Ga" was their last Top-40 single in the US (if you can consider a song that barely made the Top 40 a hit, that is). That was their make-or-break single after Hot Space, and I remember everyone just seemed to think the song was silly. (The "I Want To Break Free" video afterwards didn't help.) If they would have released one of the more rock-oriented tracks from The Works as the first single (since the point of the Works album was to show Queen was still a ROCK band), they may have ended up back on top. But the songs on there weren't very strong anyway IMHO so any single from it may have had the same effect. I kind of like Flash Gordon since it's sort of a return to the slightly "progressive" type of sound they were doing in the early/mid-'70s (rather than their simple '80s sound), though synthed up. |
escuderodelareina 17.08.2007 07:46 |
flash gordon |
Hippolyte 19.08.2007 16:48 |
The Works or A Kind of Magic get my votes. |
Hippolyte 19.08.2007 16:51 |
Drowse1 wrote: PS. Wasn't Delilah on Innuendo and not The Miracle?It was a joke. Some people are critiquing albums and listing songs that aren't even on that album. |
deleted user 19.08.2007 16:52 |
Flash Gordon, obviously, because it's more of a soundtrack than an actual album. |
louvox 20.08.2007 18:00 |
goinback wrote:You make some valid points. I remember when that single was released. We all thought it was a weak and silly song. All the DJ’s on the radio made fun of it too calling it “Radio Ca, Ca” which in Spanish means “Shit” You take Freddie’s voice off that and you could never tell that was song by Queen. I would say it’s their most over-rated song. Just about everything on the “Works” CD is very sub-par. Most songs sound very reminiscent of previous numbers. Their second worst album. The video really had nothing to do with their decline in the USA. MTV never really showed it and that in it's self made it sought out to see what the commotion was about. It was really just the poor excuse for music they were producing. That simple.remember that in 1982 was the last tour in USA people lost interest because of the sound of body langage. they never had a hit after that in the US.Actually "Radio Ga-Ga" was their last Top-40 single in the US (if you can consider a song that barely made the Top 40 a hit, that is). That was their make-or-break single after Hot Space, and I remember everyone just seemed to think the song was silly. (The "I Want To Break Free" video afterwards didn't help.) If they would have released one of the more rock-oriented tracks from The Works as the first single (since the point of the Works album was to show Queen was still a ROCK band), they may have ended up back on top. But the songs on there weren't very strong anyway IMHO so any single from it may have had the same effect. I kind of like Flash Gordon since it's sort of a return to the slightly "progressive" type of sound they were doing in the early/mid-'70s (rather than their simple '80s sound), though synthed up. |
cinfred 20.08.2007 19:53 |
I would have to say that Flash is Queen's worst album but then Queen 1 and Queen 2. They just weren't my favorite albums. I just couldn't get into that kind of music like I could the albums after. People who have said The Miracle. I would have to say that is there best a long with Inuuendo. Also those that didn't like "The Works" that is also one of there best a long with "Hot Space" I guess we just have a difference of taste. Also just so you know that Delilah is from the Innuendo album. Seems someone way back had that wrong. And also Backchat is from Hot Space. Thanks my two cents worth. |
Champipple 22.08.2007 10:59 |
Here are my bottom 3 1. The Miracle. Paint by numbers rock songs padded with maudlin saccahrine badly produced pop. Queen at it's most formulaic. Brian singlehandedly saved this one from embarrassment with some punchy guitar work, but it's still the least LP of a great body of work. 2. A Kind of Magic. The LP that never should have been. Throwing the kitchen sink at songs from the movie Highlander to pad out a full LP after the soundtrack wasn't released. Best songs were from the movie. Some good stuff but doesn't really work as a cohesive work. 3. Hot Space. I can admire their sense of adventure but this LP didn't play to their strengths. Would have been better as a Freddie Mercury solo album. Just my opinion and a bit catty, I've still listened to these hundreds of time (well... dozens of times for Miracle). :) |
louvox 22.08.2007 16:29 |
Champipple wrote: Here are my bottom 3 1. The Miracle. Paint by numbers rock songs padded with maudlin saccahrine badly produced pop. Queen at it's most formulaic. Brian singlehandedly saved this one from embarrassment with some punchy guitar work, but it's still the least LP of a great body of work. 2. A Kind of Magic. The LP that never should have been. Throwing the kitchen sink at songs from the movie Highlander to pad out a full LP after the soundtrack wasn't released. Best songs were from the movie. Some good stuff but doesn't really work as a cohesive work. 3. Hot Space. I can admire their sense of adventure but this LP didn't play to their strengths. Would have been better as a Freddie Mercury solo album. Just my opinion and a bit catty, I've still listened to these hundreds of time (well... dozens of times for Miracle). :)I agree with all your points. The Miracle was billed as their return to rock, but there is not much rock on that. Most of the songs are drentched in synths and it contains two of their very worst songs "Rain must fall" & "My baby does me" A kind of magic is their absolute worst album. Talk a bout a boring album. Four uninspired musicians simply going through the motions. Also contains two of their worst songs "Pain is so close to pleasure" & "One year of love" Hot space has always sounded like they were simply rushing to cash in on the success of "Another one bites the dust" one of their most over-rated songs. Also contains two of their worst songs "Body Language" & "Cool cat" |
sparrow 21754 23.08.2007 22:41 |
a kind of magic just sounds like too much of a forced album. the lyrics on most of them are just terrible... dont lose your head? "dont drink and drive my car, dont get paralyzed"....ugh!!!! i only like 'a kind of magic', 'who wants to live forever' and 'one vision' but the quality is not as good as their other ones. (although props to bri on the heavy guitar on princes of the universe) |
AmeriQueen 28.08.2007 08:03 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: Why do most of you pick The Works as the worst album?? Overall it's really an high quality album. With exception of maybe Tear It Up. I pick Hot Space. Why? Cuase i can't pick Flash Gordon. xD1.) The Works is a shorter album of only 9 tracks. 2.) The band was at a low point in getting along with one another and it shows. For instance, I read somewhere that "Hammer to Fall" and "Tear It Up" were Brian's overly-heavy guitar based tracks both lyrically and musically as a bitter response against the recent pop/funk direction the band had taken. There seems to be a lack of universal group influence customary in Queen where different members leave their mark on another's song. 3.) This was a very commercially conscious album. 'Hard Life' was a ballad update and revision of a lot of 'Bo Rhap's' design, 'Man on the Prowl' was another Elvis-styled attempt at recreating 'Crazy Little Thing' and it's success. 'Is This The World...' was a political song that seems designed for Live Aid and their attempt at redeeming their contraversial South African show. 4.) Overall this album lacked the intensity usually recorded on a Queen album. 5.) Hammer to Fall and I Want To Break Free for me are the only two pure and total classics on this album. Plus I am less of a Mack fan than Richards or Baker. |
The Fairy King 28.08.2007 09:56 |
AmeriQueen wrote:1. The Game was shorter in length with 2.50 mins. Or are you comparing it to Hot Space. Then your opinion really lacks substance.<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: Why do most of you pick The Works as the worst album?? Overall it's really an high quality album. With exception of maybe Tear It Up. I pick Hot Space. Why? Cuase i can't pick Flash Gordon. xD1.) The Works is a shorter album of only 9 tracks. 2.) The band was at a low point in getting along with one another and it shows. For instance, I read somewhere that "Hammer to Fall" and "Tear It Up" were Brian's overly-heavy guitar based tracks both lyrically and musically as a bitter response against the recent pop/funk direction the band had taken. There seems to be a lack of universal group influence customary in Queen where different members leave their mark on another's song. 3.) This was a very commercially conscious album. 'Hard Life' was a ballad update and revision of a lot of 'Bo Rhap's' design, 'Man on the Prowl' was another Elvis-styled attempt at recreating 'Crazy Little Thing' and it's success. 'Is This The World...' was a political song that seems designed for Live Aid and their attempt at redeeming their contraversial South African show. Plus I am less of a Mack fan than Richards or Baker. 2. That's a weird observation, if you look at the credits you have two collaborations: May/Taylor and Mercury/May (Machines and World we created resp.) Weird huh for a band who arent't getting along. + There are no records of them not getting along, only articles in tabloids who were writing they were breaking up ever since the early 70's. 3. Dunno about that...Machines, Radio Ga Ga and Tear It Up don't sound like anything they'd ever done really. Hard Life is a ballad but with a very outlandish opera intro and Man on the Prowl is more rock n roll than rockabilly. :P And about 'World we created' which you say was written for Live Aid is odd, as they didn't know they were playing the bloody thing when they were touring in 84 and early 85(?) let alone recording the song. ;) |
gem27 28.08.2007 10:08 |
On Don't Lose Your Head the lyric is "Don't drink and drive my car, Don't get breathalysed" not paralysed so it makes a bit more sense. |
steven 35638 28.08.2007 11:13 |
A while back I had decided that Queen's worst album was either The Works or The Game, however, recently I have changed my mind. At this point in time I think 'Jazz' is possibily Queen's worst album. Single wise it does pretty well, however, the production of the album is awful. The drums sound too small and also the ordering of the tracks sort of don't make much sense to me. I can't help but think that they should have started the album with 'Let Me Entertain You' with a more grander approach and then continued on with another composition of their choice. Another thing is the ending. 'More Of That Jazz' feels like a filler with just a bunch of songs within it to recap the album. I would have much rather seen the album end with 'Don't Stop Me Now' for obvious reasons. Don't get me wrong though, I love the songs on the album. My favorite is probably 'Leaving Home Ain't Easy'. As for all the other albums that people claim to be their worst albums, I'll leave a few words. Hot Space, of all the albums, should be respected. It's more of what Queen does best; experimentation. The recording quality is also commendable. Whether or not it was a success on the charts I don't care. I still feel it's an album fans should be proud of. 'The Works' is the one album I might agree with as 'one' of their worst. However, that's only because it's what basically destroyed Queen's popularity and respect in the eighties. Personally, I love it. It might not have many songs, but damn were they good. Then again, this is only my opinion. I heard somebody on here say that 'A Kind Of Magic' might be their worst album. To me, that's a load of baloney. I think it might be one of thier finest moments actually. It's not only the soundtrack to the motion picture Highlander, but it's also a fantastic album that became an actual fully-fledged Queen record. |
Micrówave 28.08.2007 11:48 |
I'm surprised no one said Made In Heaven. I think it's their worst, by far. If it were an E.P., I would definitely not be saying this. First, recycled material for an album? No thanks, that's not what I call new. Add Brian's guitars and it just sounds like a cover to me. Filler material, including that infinite track, is a waste. I don't like Yanni or John Tesh, so I don't want twenty some odd minutes of a bad synth arrangement that just keeps repeating. Maybe 20 minutes of the entire album is worth listening to more than once. The rest is rubbish. Pity sold that album, not quality. |
steven 35638 28.08.2007 13:50 |
The composition writing and recording of 'Made In Heaven' initially began early in the year of 1991 in which Freddie Mercury felt particularly inspired and motivated to create one last Queen album before he died. Unfortunatly, only three new songs were composed for 'Made In Heaven' during Freddie Mercury's lifetime (Mother Love, You Don't Fool Me, and A Winter's Tale). In fact, it was Freddie's wish to complete this work for an eventual album release according to Brian May, "Right up until the end Freddie asked me for lyrics and music that he could work on and he was adamant that his material should be released." It is in my opinion, and I'm sure many others, that this album fulfilled Freddie Mercury's wish to release yet another Queen album before his death. Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon put together a state of the art posthumous album that did justice for not only Freddie Mercury, but the band themselves as a whole. The production was beautiful and I found the meaning behind the '22:33' long bonus track. If you listen carefully you can hear Freddie Mercury talking in the background which can make one sorrowful indeed. It resembles the immortal spirit of Freddie Mercury. Not just the bonus track, but the album as a whole. I don't think it was one of their worst, rather one of their best and most emotional albums. |
gem27 28.08.2007 15:02 |
I agree with everything you said there. Made In Heaven although technically a Queen album should not be grouped together with the others as it was basically 3 of them putting together songs without their lead singer and co-songwriter of the past 20 years. It has good moments and not so good moments but I say leave Made In Heaven out of this topic as it can't be judged the same as the albums before. The track at the end with parts of Freddie talking is very moving in my opinion. |
bitesthedust 28.08.2007 16:00 |
Aside from Flash Gordon, probably The Miracle. |
Micrówave 28.08.2007 17:30 |
gem27 wrote: The track at the end with parts of Freddie talking is very moving in my opinion.I'm not saying that. But listening to it now, years later, sorry... I don't tear up or feel sad. I'm over it. Listening to the album now only merits my 20 minutes of greatness. I'm not a big fan of re-makes or re-takes. Never have been. Seriously, how can you listen to Track 13 now and get something out of it? Dare I say with a good computer studio, some lessons, the ability to import wave files, Athiest could create a similar piece. I don't think Freddie wanted ripping, biting guitars on IWBTLY. It's not that kind of song. Yes, the Guitar work is vintage May, and fantastic... it just changed the colour of the song to me. What was wrong with the B-Side of Scandal? Probably was my favorite B-Side. This is too 'produced'. Made In Heaven shifts too much from Angry, Ballsy guitar to peaceful, angelic voiced Freddie. Should have played guitar all the way thru, sounds like a "half-re-make". Again, just my thoughts... Not an attack. gem27 wrote: but I say leave Made In Heaven out of this topicI can't. It's got the "Queen" name on it, so it should be included. I'm sure the band does. |
gem27 29.08.2007 10:47 |
I'm sure the band includes it but they cannot possibly think of it in the same way as all the others before it. Yes it does have the Queen name on it but it wasn't recorded in the same way so I still say it is not right to include it in the worst album debate. Personally I don't like what they did to I Was Born To Love You compared to Freddie's original either but they only had a few songs and not enough to make an album with and everyone knew Freddie left unfinished tracks and people wanted them released so what were they meant to do, release an album of 4 songs? So they took some of Freddie's solo work and did them up in a Queen way. I really like the originals better too but they hardly destroyed his songs. Look at what the Beatles did to John Lennon's unfinished songs Free As A Bird and Real Love. They ended up nothing like the original unfinished demo's. They have the Beatles name on it too but how can you compare them to the 60's songs? Well in my opinion you can't but it is only my opinion. |
bitesthedust 29.08.2007 14:27 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: 3. Dunno about that...Machines, Radio Ga Ga and Tear It Up don't sound like anything they'd ever done really. Hard Life is a ballad but with a very outlandish opera intro and Man on the Prowl is more rock n roll than rockabilly. :P And about 'World we created' which you say was written for Live Aid is odd, as they didn't know they were playing the bloody thing when they were touring in 84 and early 85(?) let alone recording the song. ;)Tear It Up is based on We Will Rock You - listen to the drum beat during the first verse. |
Champipple 29.08.2007 19:33 |
I don't really consider Made In Heaven when thinking about best and worst. It was beautiful in a way and they really did their best, but since Freddie had little / no say in things, I do consider it "post Queen". |
maxpower 29.08.2007 19:37 |
i agree the scandal b-side version of my life has been saved, far superior to me |
Mr.Jingles 29.08.2007 20:33 |
I think all the songs re-worked for 'Made In Heaven' were much better than the originals. |
louvox 30.08.2007 10:13 |
*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: I dont see how its how its a Hard life is using Bo Rap in any way.It's a rip off of "Play the game" |
thunderbolt 31742 30.08.2007 19:29 |
Count me among those who aren't huge fans of any of the three albums between The Game and The Miracle. Hot Space has a few really good songs and a few really bad songs, so it's hit and miss. The Works, eh, roughly the same deal. Radio Ga Ga, Hammer to Fall, and Is This the World We Created... are brilliant, Tear It Up and I Want to Break Free are great as live songs but lacking in their album incarnations, and Man on the Prowl, Machines, Keep Passing the Open Windows, Machines and It's a Hard Life are just hard to listen to. A Kind of Magic, though, is the one I consider their worst. For one, I *barely* count it as a true studio album, as it's largely a soundtrack for Highlander. It has two good songs to lead off, but unfortunately they sound like they could be the same song at points (One Vision, AKOM). Friends Will Be Friends is a blatant attempt to get back to the Lap of the Gods Revisited/We Are the Champions style of crowd involvement, and as a result, it's much more fun watching 70,000 fans at Wembley sing an abbreviated version than it is to listen to the band force their way through a 4-minute track. Who Wants to Live Forever is a beautiful song, and easily the album's best. Outside of those four songs, the album is just bad. That's right, I'm not a fan of Princes. The group really redeemed themselves with The Miracle and Innuendo, but AKOM really takes my vote for worst. There's just not much of interest there. The band's best work, imo, was started by Queen II and ended by ADATR. After that, the albums started to feel more like tailor-made singles bookended with filler (few Queen songs annoy me as much as More of that Jazz for that very reason...can't think of a good closer? Let's make a clip show of the entire album!) |
deleted user 30.08.2007 19:55 |
I'm excluding Flash Gordon here. Overall I'd have to say their worst album is A Kind Of Magic. There were only a few songs on that album that I liked, and even those weren't that great. Hot Space is a close runner up, but I guess I'm not choosing it because I really don't think it deserves as much crap as people give it. It's really a pretty good album as long as you don't mind that it isn't very Queen-ish. |