AmeriQueen 22.07.2007 22:28 |
It amazes me that 8 years into the 21st Century the first new material will come out that is Queen related, that it will be only half of Queen(Brian and Roger) with a veteran great on vocals(Paul) and that I would bet at 20 dollars to winning only 1 odds that it will absolutely smoke the best up to then album of the new millenium. This just as how Innuendo smoked the 90's, Made In Heaven right behind it. Nothing today can match Queen, nor come anywhere close. |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 22.07.2007 22:29 |
Most modern music just sucks. That's final. |
Lester Burnham 22.07.2007 22:59 |
Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it. |
Erin 22.07.2007 23:12 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it.There's QUEEN and NOTHING BUT QUEEN, you traitor! :-P |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 22.07.2007 23:28 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it.Have you ever seen my music list? Yeah, I think I listen to enough. I have gone WAYYYYYYYYYY beyond Queen. And I did listen to modern music. It's all the same. It all sucks. Like you. |
Matías 23.07.2007 00:12 |
You should listen to LA RENGA .. |
M.H 23.07.2007 00:13 |
There may be some good bands (Franz Ferdinand, Wolfmother, Nickleback, Jet etc.) but there are very few. It is all the same. There are particular songs that I like, but they cant compare with the older bands. Take Iron Maiden for instance, they'e been going for over twenty years, and they write better rock than a majority of modern stuff put together. And when Queen's album comes out, I rekon here in Western Oz, in my little dump of an area, they'll smash through the charts. The reason that so many bands of yesteryear are coming back together is because modern music fans are now looking back to the days when rock was king and not all this rap bolloks that clogs the airwaves. Yep, I rekon Queen's knew album will remind the world what they've been missing all these years. =) M.H |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 23.07.2007 00:37 |
M.H wrote: There may be some good bands (Franz Ferdinand, Wolfmother, Nickleback, Jet etc.) but there are very few. It is all the same. There are particular songs that I like, but they cant compare with the older bands. Take Iron Maiden for instance, they'e been going for over twenty years, and they write better rock than a majority of modern stuff put together. And when Queen's album comes out, I rekon here in Western Oz, in my little dump of an area, they'll smash through the charts. The reason that so many bands of yesteryear are coming back together is because modern music fans are now looking back to the days when rock was king and not all this rap bolloks that clogs the airwaves. Yep, I rekon Queen's knew album will remind the world what they've been missing all these years. =) M.HThis guy has a good taste in music. I LOVE JET!!!!! The Peppers arent bad either.... |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 23.07.2007 00:47 |
Since nirvana, music has been shit |
Cedric6014 23.07.2007 02:18 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it.Oh my golly! I have actually seen Yo La Tengo! They came and played at my university like 8 years ago or something. Cant remember anything about them, just the name. As for the topic poster, don't be dissing the nineties - that was a pretty good decade for rock music. Had a bit of a revival after the poppy danceness of the 80s. Yes it would help if you listened to another band other than queen. I recommend Queen's of the Stone Age - Song's for the Deaf as the definitive post 2000 rock album so far. You might consider checking out Radiohead and Nirvana - Ive heard they're not too shabby (just quietly). And there are tons of good indie bands that u never hear on the RNB-soaked radio. Explore. |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 23.07.2007 02:32 |
Jet!!! The Academy Is...!!! Green Day!!! Morningwood!!! The Peppers!!! |
deleted user 23.07.2007 02:48 |
okay, same things that Ella said, but, just to add. Temple Of The Dog Pearl Jam Foo Fighters |
goinback 23.07.2007 02:55 |
And of course there's Wolfmother's copy of TYMD that's called "Mother" ;) |
john bodega 23.07.2007 04:54 |
I like AmeriQueen's threads. They always state the obvious; that is.. they offer the most obviously flawed statement available - you always know where you stand. I can't abide the radio most days, there's shit all on... but you've got golf balls in your ears if you can say with a straight face that nothing good has been made in 8 years. Sheesh... |
Raststätte-Knödel 23.07.2007 04:54 |
To say all modern music sucks isn't quite true. Pussycat dolls is a very good band for example :) |
thomasquinn 32989 23.07.2007 06:32 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it.It is true though, that it has become harder to come by than it used to be. Reason? Small labels are the only record companies that tend to invest in truly new talent, and they've nearly all been pushed from the market by big money-grubbing multinationals. |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 23.07.2007 07:23 |
DonnyMars<br><h6>Ella's Other Roger</h6> wrote: okay, same things that Ella said, but, just to add. Temple Of The Dog Pearl Jam Foo FightersAnd to add to THAT (again), the usuals... U2, Madonna, stuff like that. Mika, of course, uh....I'll think of some more later...My brain hurts. |
Bob-Plant 23.07.2007 10:41 |
I feel a little sheepish by agreeing that a large portion of todays music sucks compared to the 70's (because I'm 42 years old-once one starts saying "music today isn't as good as when I was 18" then you've officially become an old fart), but there were so many wonderful choices of great bands putting out good albums. Jethro Tull, Wings, Zeppelin, QUEEN...and no rap...I just can't imagine todays average 18 year old 34 years from now saying "Man, this music today sucks, just give some good old (insert a currently popular band like Coldplay)". Most of todays popular bands won't have the shelf life of Queen, Pink Floyd, the Who etc, you know what I mean? |
Boy Thomas Raker 23.07.2007 10:56 |
"Most of todays popular bands won't have the shelf life of Queen, Pink Floyd, the Who etc, you know what I mean?" I think I agree with that, Bob, but it's difficult to say. I remember my dad telling me in the 70s that artists like Queen, Elton John, etc. wouldn't be around like Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin. But they did make it that far. So a group like Green Day, 16 years in with their current line-up, is 2 or 3 albums away from a quarter of century, and still super popular. The good groups will stand the test of time, and will always make it. I believe that there is lots of goods music as Lester says, and it's harder to find these days, but overall, "popular" music is beyond woeful these days, and has been for about 15 years. |
Lester Burnham 23.07.2007 11:42 |
<font color=0>Angus's Maiden<h6>Oh Yeah! wrote: Have you ever seen my music list? Yeah, I think I listen to enough. I have gone WAYYYYYYYYYY beyond Queen. And I did listen to modern music. It's all the same. It all sucks. Like you.I don't recall even addressing you at all in my reply, which was directed toward the OP, not toward you, so thank you very much for playing, but please try again. However, you seemed so certain that all modern music sucks, and that's final, so if you want to live in your deep hole underground and continue to dismiss differing opinions, then more power to you. Just don't come crawling back to the surface to us normal people when you're laughed out of your hole, though. <b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: It is true though, that it has become harder to come by than it used to be. Reason? Small labels are the only record companies that tend to invest in truly new talent, and they've nearly all been pushed from the market by big money-grubbing multinationals.Absolutely. There's more care for the artist in the indie labels, whereas on the major labels, all they care about is money and figures: if you don't sell a certain amount, you're immediately dropped. It's hard to fault them for this, because they're in the business to make money, but this kind of approach also stifles artistic creativity, whereas indie labels thrive on it and encourage it. |
olly1988 23.07.2007 15:43 |
have a listen to us... we want to change rock to something like it was. wlink |
The Real Wizard 23.07.2007 15:45 |
A band these days that has similar traits to Queen? One word: Muse |
The Fairy King 23.07.2007 15:58 |
Muse are pretty much the only exciting band with the same grandeur Queen had in the 70's at the moment. Check em out. |
runner70 23.07.2007 16:13 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: A band these days that has similar traits to Queen? One word: MuseNothing to do with Queen at all! Overrated a lot! |
deleted user 23.07.2007 19:03 |
I agree that most new music sucks. I have to agree even more with the person who said they can't imagine saying "Pop on some good old Coldplay" twenty years from now. I think that there needs to be a revival in rock music. It just isn't as good as it used to be. I can't even be bothered to call a lot of this new "music" music at all. Yes, there are several good bands out there, but it's not like during the sixties, seventies, and early eighties, where you could find good music from nearly every popular band. If I were to form my own band, I'd want to bring rock back to the way it was. And those of you who plan to do the same, good luck. :) Queen Alec |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 23.07.2007 19:29 |
Oh that reminds me!! Coldplay, too :). |
deleted user 23.07.2007 20:57 |
Hello there Yeah, music is not the same, that's for sure. But maybe that's because time won't come back at all. If you want some new "Queen quality" band to rise up these days, i bet you won't get it, but you'll find many good bands, but in different ways. Modern music gear won't sound like the good old ones, and so won't the modern bands. You'll never see another Picasso or Mozart in the face of the earth, but if you open up your mind for something new, then you'll certainly find some pretty talented persons (ok, it's not he best comparison at all... :) ). But don't go search for good music on MTV, or you'll be starting by the wrong place and might get disappointed with what you see... ;) |
Josh Henson 23.07.2007 21:43 |
Erin wrote:How's SC Erin? I can't believe I'm gonna say it, but I miss that state. It's not the Real Carolina, but it was ok! ;)Lester Burnham wrote: Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it.There's QUEEN and NOTHING BUT QUEEN, you traitor! :-P |
Josh Henson 23.07.2007 21:44 |
Adolfo wrote: Since nirvana, music has been shitNIRVANA????? Foo Fighters kick Nirvana's ass anyday! Better musically by far. Kurt Cobain, overrated - he killed himself. Big f'ing deal! |
Josh Henson 23.07.2007 21:45 |
goinback wrote: And of course there's Wolfmother's copy of TYMD that's called "Mother" ;)You have this? I love Wolfmother. Upload this shite! ;) |
Josh Henson 23.07.2007 21:48 |
alright, here's my 2 cents. Great bands today: 1. Foo Fighters 2. Scissor Sisters (say what you will) 3. Wolfmother 4. Scythian (look these guys up) 5. Queen + Paul Rodgers (sorry, had to do it) 6. My Chemical Romance |
Erin 23.07.2007 22:26 |
Hadrian wrote: How's SC Erin? I can't believe I'm gonna say it, but I miss that state. It's not the Real Carolina, but it was ok! ;)Real Carolina?? I'll show you who's the real Carolina! ;-P I also luuuv me some Foo, btw. |
Mr.Jingles 23.07.2007 22:55 |
There's always been good bands and crap bands, and in my opinion anyone who thinks that today there are no good bands at all is close minded and is missing some good stuff. We think of the great old bands like Queen, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, when the 70s come to mind, but yet we forget that there was plenty of shit bands in those days. I won't mention names but they were most likely those that either had a spaceship or some futuristic image on the album cover, or bands that were named after a place. Now, if we think about today's mainstream which is dominated by emo bands that sound exactly the same, then I'd have to say it's mostly a bunch of shit. However, there are great bands today that truly deserve a good chance to be heard like Wolfmother, Franz Ferdinand, and of course Muse. I suggest people to give a chance to the new comers. Justr try not to follow the mainstream crap that MTV tries to shove down our throats. |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 23.07.2007 23:29 |
Hadrian wrote:Hell no!!! Nirvana are one of teh greatest friggin bands of al time! Foo Fighters don't compare.Adolfo wrote: Since nirvana, music has been shitNIRVANA????? Foo Fighters kick Nirvana's ass anyday! Better musically by far. Kurt Cobain, overrated - he killed himself. Big f'ing deal! |
QueenMercury46 24.07.2007 01:07 |
When I'm talking to my parents or something about old music I always hear things like, "Oh yeah (name of band) were great." But I can't imagine 20 years from now somebody saying, "Oh yeah Fall Out Boy, they were great!" or something like that. I think that musicians have just become lazy. I can't think of anybody who has the same amount of passion and love of music as Queen for example. And it does all sound the same these days. Queen had so much variety in their music. I don't know if anybody else has noticed, but every singer in a rock band sounds the exact same these days, they have the same voice it's really wierd. But no bands seem to have a distinct sound or identity these days. It's all just the same sound with a different tune. And it seems like it's all singing and nothing about the actual background music. I mean what ever happened to awesome guitar riffs and solos? They just don't exist anymore! There aren't any guitar heroes these days, unfortunately there will never be anyone like Jimi Hendrix again or Jimmy Page or Brian May...I could go on. It makes me really sad and annoyed that I can't enjoy my generation's music. I wish I lived in my parent's generation. (How often do you ever hear that?) I get really annoyed with people who are stuck in their little world of crap music like Justin Timberlake and Eminem and all these random rappers and emo artists and they have never even heard of Queen in their life. Unfortunately I come across too many of those people. It just makes me so mad that people seem to appreciate the lazy passionless crap that's around today over the amazing music of the 60's, 70's and 80's. Just talkin' bout my g-g-g-generation!!! (You know that song by the Who haha) Sorry for my rant. |
Another Roger (re) 24.07.2007 03:18 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Something tells me you need to start listening to other music that isn't Queen or what's considered popular in modern society. There's more music to be found in great indie bands like Yo La Tengo, Apostle of Hustle, Stars, The Decemberists, and so forth. There is excellent music out there - you just need to find it.Indiemusic is extremely boring in my opinion. I have listened to those bands you are listing up. Decemberists are alright, but cant be compared to Queens quality at all. |
deleted user 24.07.2007 04:33 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: A band these days that has similar traits to Queen? One word: MuseExactly what I was going to say. There's a bit of Yes in there too. |
Boy Thomas Raker 25.07.2007 14:43 |
The dreaded Nickelback are about the biggest band around these days. Sadly, our radio station at work play Rock Star ten times a day. Apart from it's awesome blandness, it's a poorly written song from a story telling POV. I may be pedantic here because I hate Nickelback, but WTF is this all about in the first chorus? "Cause we all just wanna be big rockstars Live in hilltop houses driving fifteen cars The girls come easy and the drugs come cheap We'll all stay skinny cause we just won't eat" Fine, you want to be skinny, and won't to be that way. Excellent strategy for being a rock star. Onto the second verse. "I wanna be great like Elvis without the tassels Hire eight body guards that love to beat up assholes Sign a couple autographs So I can eat my meals for free" Just 10 seconds ago you weren't going to eat at all, now you want to eat for free, presumably like that noted model of culinary restraint, Elvis. Just terrible, terrible, terrible storytelling. That'd be like the second verse of Fat Bottomed Girls being about supermodels whose asses you could bounce a quarter off of because they were so small. Inconsisten them, and terrible writing. Beef over. |
deleted user 25.07.2007 19:41 |
^I agree. And Nickelback has such a horrible singer! Grrr... I hate them! Who could believe that rock music has changed so much. In the sixties, seventies, and eighties, we had musicians that were TALENTED. There was Hendrix, Townshend, Clapton, May, Slash, Page, Van Halen and tons of other legendary guitarists that created some of the best compositions in the history of rock, and they all had different styles of playing. The singers actually had distinct voices back then. Just compare Freddie to, let's say, Robert Plant. They sounded nothing alike! Nowadays, most of the crappy new bands sound the same. They suck. WTF happened to originality? I think a lack of originality just proves they don't have any talent. |
LozlanTheMage 25.07.2007 20:14 |
Making generalized statements is a dangerous, albeit common, game. Dissecting what defines music as memorable is generally an art of futility, simply considering the uncertain shifts of tastes and culture. There was a time I agreed wholeheartedly with the first poster; I was dedicated solely to music composed in the 70s. This served me well until I ran out of new artists to explore, which prodded me into examining the decades before and since. The 80's remain a fairly barren period for yours truly, but I have found some remarkable artists playing today who both create unique music and, alternately, emulate their forebears. These include Coheed & Cambria, Ice Age, The Mars Volta, Proto-Kaw, The Decemberists, Rufus Wainwright, The Shins, Ayreon, 3, The Dresden Dolls, Kaipa, Lake of Tears, Presto Ballet, System of a Down and The White Stripes. Personally I think the collectively perceived 'decline' of popular music coincides with the abandonment of AOR. We live in a world that celebrates singular songs over the album-length accomplishments of most artists, which is admittedly a terrible and limiting shame. |
Mr.Jingles 25.07.2007 23:55 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: We live in a world that celebrates singular songs over the album-length accomplishments of most artists, which is admittedly a terrible and limiting shame.Hit singles are catchy and instantly appreciated, but then they become overplayed and disposable once people get fed up with them. There are good albums still made today, but their appreciation takes a while to be spread among the public. It took some years until a wide audience finally discovered OK Computer by Radiohead. |
deleted user 26.07.2007 00:15 |
LozlanTheMage wrote: Making generalized statements is a dangerous, albeit common, game. Dissecting what defines music as memorable is generally an art of futility, simply considering the uncertain shifts of tastes and culture. There was a time I agreed wholeheartedly with the first poster; I was dedicated solely to music composed in the 70s. This served me well until I ran out of new artists to explore, which prodded me into examining the decades before and since. The 80's remain a fairly barren period for yours truly, but I have found some remarkable artists playing today who both create unique music and, alternately, emulate their forebears. These include Coheed & Cambria, Ice Age, The Mars Volta, Proto-Kaw, The Decemberists, Rufus Wainwright, The Shins, Ayreon, 3, The Dresden Dolls, Kaipa, Lake of Tears, Presto Ballet, System of a Down and The White Stripes. Personally I think the collectively perceived 'decline' of popular music coincides with the abandonment of AOR. We live in a world that celebrates singular songs over the album-length accomplishments of most artists, which is admittedly a terrible and limiting shame. Yes, I agree that there are some good bands today, but it's just not the same. A lot of new rock doesn't even seem like rock at all, it all seems alternative to me. And, yes, some new bands have their own unique style (such as System of a Down, Avenged Sevenfold, and Red Hot Chili Peppers) but many of the mainstream bands don't. It's sad, but it's true. The world has literally become Radio Ga Ga. :/ I'm not saying ALL new bands suck, I'm just saying that many do. I think I should have been clearer with my previous entry. |
Treasure Moment 26.07.2007 07:13 |
AmeriQueen wrote: It amazes me that 8 years into the 21st Century the first new material will come out that is Queen related, that it will be only half of Queen(Brian and Roger) with a veteran great on vocals(Paul) and that I would bet at 20 dollars to winning only 1 odds that it will absolutely smoke the best up to then album of the new millenium. This just as how Innuendo smoked the 90's, Made In Heaven right behind it. Nothing today can match Queen, nor come anywhere close.I agree Queen are the gods of music forever but have you heard my band? its not like the crap you hear on Mtv |
Treasure Moment 26.07.2007 07:20 |
Treasure Moment>>>>>>>>>>>>all the modern bands put together link |
Mr.Jingles 26.07.2007 12:26 |
Atheist wrote: I agree Queen are the gods of music forever but have you heard my band? its not like the crap you hear on MtvI agree! It's even worse |
Erin 26.07.2007 13:59 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree! It's even worseLOL! |
The Real Wizard 26.07.2007 16:45 |
runner70 wrote:Listen a bit deeper... they are very similar in the sense that they turn left when you expect them to turn right. They are the most clever songwriters in the mainstream today, as far as I'm concerned. They are also very similar to Queen in the sense that their first three albums were all about finding and defining their sound (something which most artists today aren't even allowed to do), with a hit song on the third - and their fourth album is a milestone for popular music as a whole. Selling out two nights at Wembley isn't a fluke. Who else do we know and love that did that? :)Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: A band these days that has similar traits to Queen? One word: MuseNothing to do with Queen at all! Overrated a lot! <font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote: Exactly what I was going to say. There's a bit of Yes in there too.Not to mention... the last two albums from Yes. The Ladder and Magnification are superb... their best work since Going For The One in '77, in my opinion. |
lotto 26.07.2007 18:09 |
i hope you are right,but with their talent at their disposale it has to be class |