L-R-TIGER1994 18.07.2007 12:51 |
Well this board has turned quite boring,people have been discouraged from uploading things thanks to the MP3 critics,so I decided to post some things,if you like mp3 here you have it,if you hate it you know what to do then.... Puebla 1981: 2º NIGHT 1. Intro 2. Jailhouse Rock 3. We Will Rock You 4. Let Me Entertain You 5. Play The Game 6. Somebody To Love 7. I'm In Love With My Car 8. Get Down, Make Love 9. Need Your Loving Tonight 10. Save Me 11. Now I'm Here 12. Dragon Attack 13. Now I'm Here (Reprise) 14. Love Of My Life 15. Keep Yourself Alive 17. Flash 18. The Hero 19. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 20. Bohemian Rhapsody 21. Tie Your Mother Down 22. Another One Bites The Dust 23. Sheer Heart Attack 24. We Will Rock You 25. We Are The Champions 26. God Save The Queen EDIT Monterrey 1981: 1. We Will Rock You (Slow) 2. Let Me Entertain You 3. Play The Game 4. Somebody To Love 5. Killer Queen 6. I'm In Love With My Car 7. Get Down Make Love 8. Save Me 10. Fat Bottomed Girls 11. Love Of My Life 12. Keep Yourself Alive 13. Guitar Solo 14. Flash's Theme 15. The Hero 16. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 17. Bohemian Rhapsody 18. Tie Your Mother Down 19. Another One Bites The Dust 20. Sheer Heart Attack 21. We Will Rock You 22. We Are The Champions 23. God Save The Queen New Jersey,9th agost 1982: 1. Flash Theme 2. Rock It (Prime Jive) 3. We Will Rock You 4. We Will Rock You / Action This Day 5. Play The Game 6. Somebody To Love 7. Now I'm Here 8. Dragon Attack / Now I'm Here 9. Save Me 10. Calling All Girls 11. Get Down Make Love 12. Guitar Solo 13. Body Languaje 14. Under Pressure 15. Life Is Real 16. Fat Bottomed Girls 17. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 18. Bohemian Rhapsody 19. Tie Your Mother Down 20. Another One Bites The Dust 21. We Are The Champions 22. God Save The Queen |
CD 18.07.2007 14:53 |
WOW!!! How unexpected but yet very much welcomed and appreciated. Thank You. |
Aquillas 18.07.2007 15:32 |
Thank you. :) |
masterstroke_84 18.07.2007 15:39 |
You´re amazing!! keep sharing... Thnaks a lot! P. |
Smitty 18.07.2007 15:59 |
Wow, way to pollute the board with MP3. Jeez, what a waste... Haha, just kidding. Thanks for sharing. |
Nummer2 18.07.2007 16:02 |
Great post! Thank you very much. But: Is the link to the Monterrey show missing?? |
L-R-TIGER1994 18.07.2007 16:27 |
You are right,here it is: EDIT:if you want the show go wait for the FLAC version(the FLAC INVATION) |
L-R-TIGER1994 18.07.2007 16:45 |
Glasgow,30th May 1977: 1. A Day At The Races (Intro) 2. Tie Your Mother Down 3. Ogre Battle 4. White Queen 5. Somebody To Love 6. Killer Queen 7. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy 8. The Millionaire Waltz 9. You're My Best Friend 10. Bring Back That Leroy Brown 11. Death On Two Legs 12. Sweet Lady 13. Brighton Rock 14. '39 15. You Take My Breath Away 16. White Man 17. The Prophet's Song 18. Bohemian Rhapsody 19. Keep Yourself Alive 20. Stone Cold Crazy 21. In The Laps Of Gods... Reviseted 22. Now I'm Here 23. Liar 24. I'm a Man 25. Jailhouse Rock 26. God Save The Queen Tokyo,24th April 1979: 1. We Will Rock You (Slow) 2. Let Me Entertain You 3. Killer Queen 4. Bicycle Race 5. I'm In Love With My Car 6. Teo Torriatte 7. Keep Yourself Alive 8. Don't Stop Me Now 9. Bohemian Rhapsody 10. We Will Rock You (Fast) 11. We Are The Champions Montreal,21th July,1982: 1. Intro 2. Rock It / We Will Rock You 3. Action This Day 4. Play The Game 5. Staying Power 6. Now I'm Here 7. Dragon Attack 8. Save Me 9. Calling All Girls 10. Back Chat 11. Get Down Make Love 12. Guitar Solo 13. Under Pressure 14. Fat Bottomed Girls 15. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 16. Bohemian Rhapsody 17. Body Language 18. Another One Bites The Dust 19. We Will Rock You 20. We Are The Champions 21. God Save The Queen |
onevsion 18.07.2007 19:56 |
mp3 is bad all shows are available in better quality. |
L-R-TIGER1994 18.07.2007 20:20 |
ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac? |
silver_salmon 18.07.2007 20:28 |
Hey can you post the original tape??. Flac suck!! Thank!!! Este sitio esta lleno de soberbios que se la dan de grandes fanaticos y son unos pelotudos tremendos. |
onevsion 18.07.2007 22:28 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac?I prefer to trade... |
seba_979 18.07.2007 22:37 |
All taken from here: link |
Raf 19.07.2007 06:47 |
Ducksoup wrote:I get the whole "FLAC is better" point... But someone who refuses to share shouldn't complain about what's being shared.L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac?I prefer to trade... |
Double-U 19.07.2007 08:08 |
Monterey misses two tracks. Now i'm Here and Dragon Attack, so it´s incomplete and the announce of Puebla seems to be the first night, because Jailhouse Rock wasn't played on the second night. greetings W. |
The Real Wizard 19.07.2007 17:15 |
Double-U wrote: Jailhouse Rock wasn't played on the second night.It sure was. The show we always thought was October 16 actually happened on October 18, so Jailhouse was indeed played on the second night. :) |
Double-U 20.07.2007 02:26 |
Hey Sir Bob, so is this the same Puebla-date you offer some month ago? W. |
The Real Wizard 20.07.2007 05:23 |
Nope... the one I shared was a 2-source mix of the first night, Oct 17. |
928 21.07.2007 07:23 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac?because anyone with half a brain, downloads the lossless flac and converts to mp3 FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY.They get both that way. Can't do it your way. What you are doing is making it easy for the MANY MANY "i havnt got a clue what i'm doing members" to pollute the trading pool after they burn to CD. Are you still on a 56k connection or what??THATS when mp3 was a useful share. NOB |
onevsion 22.07.2007 01:24 |
<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:I don't complain at all. I just say that MP3 is bad. I don't need to download the shows since I have them in lossless quality already.Ducksoup wrote:I get the whole "FLAC is better" point... But someone who refuses to share shouldn't complain about what's being shared.L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac?I prefer to trade... Mp3 is bad. |
onevsion 22.07.2007 01:26 |
928 wrote:Too damn right 928... very well said indeed.L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac?because anyone with half a brain, downloads the lossless flac and converts to mp3 FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY.They get both that way. Can't do it your way. What you are doing is making it easy for the MANY MANY "i havnt got a clue what i'm doing members" to pollute the trading pool after they burn to CD. Are you still on a 56k connection or what??THATS when mp3 was a useful share. NOB |
thunderbolt 31742 22.07.2007 07:23 |
928 wrote:I know I had some harsh, probably unfounded words for you in the Houston thread, 928, but I've got to agree with you here. If a new show surfaces and MP3 is the ONLY format it exists in, ok, share the MP3. Even then, someone out there has the original tape, and the person responsible for posting it probably knows who--the lossless is out there.L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: ok post them then,why not having mp3 AND flac?because anyone with half a brain, downloads the lossless flac and converts to mp3 FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY.They get both that way. Can't do it your way. What you are doing is making it easy for the MANY MANY "i havnt got a clue what i'm doing members" to pollute the trading pool after they burn to CD. Are you still on a 56k connection or what??THATS when mp3 was a useful share. I listen to MP3s myself. 320kbps, but still MP3. That said, every time you convert lossless files to lossy, you lose something. Say the first guy to get the lossless files converts them to 320 kbps MP3s. He deletes the FLACs, and his buddy wants him to send over the show, so he does. The buddy gets it and converts the files to 128s (which sound more like 96s because of the previous loss of data). Then he's the first to share the files on the internet. The problem used to be the generation of the tape. MP3s simply replicate that generation problem. Every time you convert a file to MP3, you lose data. If you convert it to a lower compression, or even to WAV and back, you lose even more data, and the problem is compounded by the first conversion. That's why I listen to MP3s, but I prefer to get lossless files. If it's uploaded by a reputable individual who has checked it and can confirm the lossless, then I know I'm going to get 320kbps MP3s (after converting from FLAC) that sound like 320kbps MP3s. I've gotten 192s that have been converted back and forth so many times that they sound like they're coming off of AM radio. By that point, it's almost not worth keeping the files. They're big files that sound like crap, and dropping them to the 96kbps range will only result in a further loss of data. And that, my friends, is why MP3s have no place in the trading pool. I'm going to go beat my head against a wall now. |
Daveboy35 22.07.2007 11:28 |
Thank you for these concerts LRTIGER we who aren't fussed whether it's mp3 or flac really appreciate it, and i think it shouldn't matter what quality it's in it's the thought of sharing that counts. |
Rik&Roll 24.07.2007 10:00 |
I can understand that MP3 isn't to be traded. But in here we share files, and any file that's of interest to me is welcomed. Flac/wav/dvd is great, but when a great show I'm looking for is shared in MP3, I love it too. |
on my way up 24.07.2007 10:14 |
....and no new shows in FLAC for some time now |
The Real Wizard 24.07.2007 15:34 |
Rik&Roll wrote: I can understand that MP3 isn't to be traded. But in here we share files, and any file that's of interest to me is welcomed. Flac/wav/dvd is great, but when a great show I'm looking for is shared in MP3, I love it too.link Read this discussion if you want to see some good reasons why mp3 is such a problem. |
Rik&Roll 24.07.2007 18:36 |
Well... what can I say? Sorry for being thrilled when I downloaded some great gigs here... |
L-R-TIGER1994 24.07.2007 20:27 |
The problem is not mp3,the problem are the motherfucker that DO NOT understand or do not have the capacity to understand that we are all different and have different tastes,I have FLAC and mp3 at home but prefer mp3,COS I WANT IT!- And after reading things like "stop polluting the trading pool" or "ban mp3" I can clearly see the IQ from some members here so it is useless to discuss with that people. I am not sharing NEW shows I just RE POSTED shows that have been going round for MONTHS or even YEARS,if you do not post things in mp3 here that does not mean that it will dissapear,someone will do it somewhere else and mp3 will be alive till it becomes old fashioned not because some ignorant narrow minded people from QZ wanted this,try to ban mp3 it is like trying to ban pornography or file sharing thru internet,so do not be ridiculous.And who are you to do so,the rulers of the web????. I just only see DO NOT POST OFFICIAL MATERIAL,not DO NOT POST MP3,so I think posting mp3 it is not forbidden in this forum I guess.So the fact that some jerks like FLAC does not mean we can not do it,JUST IGNORE MP3 POST and it will be ok,so I repeat I am just RE POSTING very well known shows in mp3 for some people that missed them,if I (or somebody else)do not do it here someone will "pollute" the web somewhere else. Conclusion mp3 it is not a problem,it is a choice for many people that just want it because we are all DIFFERENT,I do not think you are smarter for listening to FLAC(or are you?)it is not that you like or hate mp3,I think it is just people that the only way to show their frustration in life it is just entering a forum and critisize everything and try to set their own rules.GO LISTEN YOUR FLAC! let us choose what we want and do not disturb please... PS:For all the people that like FLAC,I am still waiting for the so promoted FLAC INVATION from last year,where is it?. Anf for the people that like Queen(no matter if it is mp3,FLAC,DVD,cassette or whatever)I have many boots and some rare things I have collected for 15 years or more(I am sure when I started doing so some of these FLAC geniouses were still crawling),If you want to swap or just want a show let me know and I will send them to you thru mail or msn cos QZ does not seem to be a good place for music nowadays...how I miss the days we I just join QZ and really enjoy it for the quality of the members that there were here. *sighs* |
The Real Wizard 25.07.2007 00:56 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: I have FLAC and mp3 at home but prefer mp3,COS I WANT IT!-Glad to hear you've finally explained yourself so articulately and in such detail. someone will do it somewhere else and mp3 will be alive till it becomes old fashioned not because some ignorant narrow minded people from QZ wanted thisPreferring good quality = narrow-minded...? Wow, that's a good one... Sure, people can do it somewhere else, but in virtually every other major artist's trading community, those people are in the minority. With Queen traders, it's far from it. Zeppelin, Stones, Beatles, Sabbath, Dead, and pretty much all other collectors got past this argument about 5 years ago, leaving mp3 supporters in the dust. Look at how many new recordings of these bands pop up every year on Tape City, Dime, TTD, etc. Ever wondered why so few new Queen recordings turn up? how I miss the days we I just join QZ and really enjoy it for the quality of the members that there were here.Did you ever think that maybe people have left this forum because there are no quality standards?? Maybe one day you'll get in touch with a collector who has an uncirculated Queen recording from 1976... and after they tell you they won't trade or share the recording because, I quote, "someone from Queenzone will convert it to mp3", then maybe you'll finally understand. Until then, enjoy your Nth gen lossy copy of New Jersey 82, and some hoarder can enjoy that new recording from 1976 that we could have had by now if it wasn't for people like you! |
on my way up 25.07.2007 02:34 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: The problem is not mp3,the problem are the motherfucker that DO NOT understand or do not have the capacity to understand that we are all different and have different tastes,I have FLAC and mp3 at home but prefer mp3,COS I WANT IT!- And after reading things like "stop polluting the trading pool" or "ban mp3" I can clearly see the IQ from some members here so it is useless to discuss with that people. I am not sharing NEW shows I just RE POSTED shows that have been going round for MONTHS or even YEARS,if you do not post things in mp3 here that does not mean that it will dissapear,someone will do it somewhere else and mp3 will be alive till it becomes old fashioned not because some ignorant narrow minded people from QZ wanted this,try to ban mp3 it is like trying to ban pornography or file sharing thru internet,so do not be ridiculous.And who are you to do so,the rulers of the web????. I just only see DO NOT POST OFFICIAL MATERIAL,not DO NOT POST MP3,so I think posting mp3 it is not forbidden in this forum I guess.So the fact that some jerks like FLAC does not mean we can not do it,JUST IGNORE MP3 POST and it will be ok,so I repeat I am just RE POSTING very well known shows in mp3 for some people that missed them,if I (or somebody else)do not do it here someone will "pollute" the web somewhere else. Conclusion mp3 it is not a problem,it is a choice for many people that just want it because we are all DIFFERENT,I do not think you are smarter for listening to FLAC(or are you?)it is not that you like or hate mp3,I think it is just people that the only way to show their frustration in life it is just entering a forum and critisize everything and try to set their own rules.GO LISTEN YOUR FLAC! let us choose what we want and do not disturb please... PS:For all the people that like FLAC,I am still waiting for the so promoted FLAC INVATION from last year,where is it?. Anf for the people that like Queen(no matter if it is mp3,FLAC,DVD,cassette or whatever)I have many boots and some rare things I have collected for 15 years or more(I am sure when I started doing so some of these FLAC geniouses were still crawling),If you want to swap or just want a show let me know and I will send them to you thru mail or msn cos QZ does not seem to be a good place for music nowadays...how I miss the days we I just join QZ and really enjoy it for the quality of the members that there were here. *sighs*It is not a matter of taste but a matter of quality. Yesterday I visited U2torrents. Many shows and all in flac. People over there talk about the quality and they now what they're doing. Over here many fans are clueless about these things. I was too , 3years ago but by reading the posts of collectors on this forum I got to understand the world of unofficial recordings.And the reason why FLAC is better than MP3 or other lossy files. When a show is uploaded in MP3 that I do not have , I just don't download it because I know I will be getting a shitty copy. And about the flac attack:knebworth, chicago'80 from the master, chicago'78,10-24-1982 from the master,puebla,buenos aires 1st gen audience, tokyo'85,leeds'82,liverpool'75, newcastle'79, edinburgh'82,... All wonderful recordings shared the last year. What more do you want? I had an MP3 copy of some of these shows and the difference is enormous. |
on my way up 25.07.2007 02:48 |
Rik&Roll wrote: Well... what can I say? Sorry for being thrilled when I downloaded some great gigs here...Imagine these shows in the best quality possible, the way they are supposed to sound ... Compare your MP3's to the shows straight from the master or first generation tape and you'll hear the difference! |
Rik&Roll 25.07.2007 05:54 |
on my way up wrote:Sure I do like the lossless shows better, but that's not the issue. When I'm having my birthdayparty I like it best when people bring me some nice vintage brandy. Nevertheless, I am also quite happy with a sixpack of beers. Let me try to translate an old dutch saying: One shouldn't look a horse, that's been given to you, in the mouth. Another one: Hunger make raw beans sweet....Rik&Roll wrote: Well... what can I say? Sorry for being thrilled when I downloaded some great gigs here...Imagine these shows in the best quality possible, the way they are supposed to sound ... Compare your MP3's to the shows straight from the master or first generation tape and you'll hear the difference! |
thunderbolt 31742 25.07.2007 06:20 |
Rik&Roll wrote:But the insistence on trading MP3s is what's causing the hunger. Sir GH replied, maybe on this very page, maybe in the thread he linked off of this one, that at least one trader with an uncirculated recording from 1976 has refused to trade or share it because "someone from Queenzone will make an MP3 of it" (almost a direct quote).on my way up wrote:Sure I do like the lossless shows better, but that's not the issue. When I'm having my birthdayparty I like it best when people bring me some nice vintage brandy. Nevertheless, I am also quite happy with a sixpack of beers. Let me try to translate an old dutch saying: One shouldn't look a horse, that's been given to you, in the mouth. Another one: Hunger make raw beans sweet....Rik&Roll wrote: Well... what can I say? Sorry for being thrilled when I downloaded some great gigs here...Imagine these shows in the best quality possible, the way they are supposed to sound ... Compare your MP3's to the shows straight from the master or first generation tape and you'll hear the difference! What I do, and what I suggest everyone who wants MP3 audio of shows should do, is download the FLACs and convert them to MP3s for personal use, then DO NOT DISTRIBUTE the MP3s you've made. If you intend to continue distributing the show, either keep the FLACs on your hard drive, or burn them to backup CDs, and share those. Sharing MP3s is keeping shows out of the QZ community. It's not a case of "hunger makes raw beans sweet," it's a case of that stupid McDonald's down the street keeping Morton's from moving in next door. |
Rik&Roll 25.07.2007 15:34 |
You don't understand my point. I don't prefer MP3. But when for instance Newcastle '79 was shared here in MP3, I was thrilled. When the FLAC-recording came up leter I was thrilled again for the better sound. I'm just glad when a fine show gets shared here. For instance, I would like one of the ANATO-shows of autumn '75 to be shared here (or reseeded). When it's in flac: great! When it's MP3: fine too. Just wanna hear them. If I would make a trade it's a different story of course. Then I would insist on lossless, but this board is about sharing and beggars like me just can't be choosers, can they? |
The Real Wizard 25.07.2007 17:27 |
Rik&Roll wrote: You don't understand my point. I don't prefer MP3. But when for instance Newcastle '79 was shared here in MP3, I was thrilled. When the FLAC-recording came up leter I was thrilled again for the better sound. I'm just glad when a fine show gets shared here. For instance, I would like one of the ANATO-shows of autumn '75 to be shared here (or reseeded). When it's in flac: great! When it's MP3: fine too. Just wanna hear them. If I would make a trade it's a different story of course. Then I would insist on lossless, but this board is about sharing and beggars like me just can't be choosers, can they?Fair enough... But have you ever considered the possibility that more people would be happy to share their lossless recordings if they were confident that they wouldn't be re-shared in mp3 format? There is a much bigger picture, and even though I have outlined it so many times, so few people actually get it. |
Double-U 26.07.2007 03:37 |
Hey folks, at first I have suspicion in my eyes when reading about someone who have something tasty or rare in his collection and would trade this if there won´t be some facts like bla...bla... . If there wouldn´t be a connection to Sir Bob I would say forget it, because so often in these days there were people who know somebody who has a sister with a friend who know's a woman who's daily guiding the dog of a guy who has Sunbury '74 or whatever. But that´s not the point! I'm agree with the dutch man that it is a fine thing to have a new concert even when it is an Mp3-format. That doesn´t mean that I spread the recording until Timbuktu or elsewhere. The argument of personal use is absolutely wise. But if I try to copy the music of a silver-boot (yes they still exist) to my desktop, I get only the mp3 format. Or is there a way to bring that files to a lossless flac experience? regards W. |
little foetus 26.07.2007 04:52 |
Well, you can use Exact audio copy or dBPowerAmp for that. |
Double-U 26.07.2007 04:56 |
I´ll try it! Thank you Little foetus! W. |
Rik&Roll 26.07.2007 14:14 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Well yes, I do get it. Your argumentation is clear. Just be gentle with me when I say 'thanks' to someone that shares a lossy show I'm curious 'bout ;)Rik&Roll wrote: You don't understand my point. I don't prefer MP3. But when for instance Newcastle '79 was shared here in MP3, I was thrilled. When the FLAC-recording came up leter I was thrilled again for the better sound. I'm just glad when a fine show gets shared here. For instance, I would like one of the ANATO-shows of autumn '75 to be shared here (or reseeded). When it's in flac: great! When it's MP3: fine too. Just wanna hear them. If I would make a trade it's a different story of course. Then I would insist on lossless, but this board is about sharing and beggars like me just can't be choosers, can they?Fair enough... But have you ever considered the possibility that more people would be happy to share their lossless recordings if they were confident that they wouldn't be re-shared in mp3 format? There is a much bigger picture, and even though I have outlined it so many times, so few people actually get it. |
The Real Wizard 27.07.2007 02:08 |
Well, I wasn't picking on you in particular, so sorry if you took it that way! If you prefer lossless shares, then why not join us in the battle for purely lossless shares? We need to move from being complacent to being vocal. Wouldn't you prefer to have 5-30-77, 10-9-81, 10-18-81, 7-21-82, and 8-9-82 as lossless copies? "Mp3 is better than nothing" doesn't apply anymore, when the alternative is readily available. |
on my way up 27.07.2007 06:51 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Well, I wasn't picking on you in particular, so sorry if you took it that way! If you prefer lossless shares, then why not join us in the battle for purely lossless shares? We need to move from being complacent to being vocal. Wouldn't you prefer to have 5-30-77, 10-9-81, 10-18-81, 7-21-82, and 8-9-82 as lossless copies? "Mp3 is better than nothing" doesn't apply anymore, when the alternative is readily available.I have the shows you mention, some in MP3 and some in lossless form. The difference is enormous. Audience recordings do not have the best quality as we all know so it is very important to get the best possible version. This MP3 sharing works against that. That's what some people on this forum try to say and I agree completely. Now, bad recordings keep circulating which is very bad in my opinion. Why need chicago '80 in MP3 when there is a copy of the master available? |
The Real Wizard 27.07.2007 12:18 |
on my way up wrote: Why need chicago '80 in MP3 when there is a copy of the master available?Just so you can say mp3 is as good as FLAC... clearly!! |
Rik&Roll 28.07.2007 07:45 |
The only thing that confuses me in this debate is that I always had the impression that a lot of traders like to share in MP3, so they could still trade the lossless versions. I'm no trader, but I could understand that point of view. |
The Real Wizard 28.07.2007 17:53 |
Rik&Roll wrote: The only thing that confuses me in this debate is that I always had the impression that a lot of traders like to share in MP3, so they could still trade the lossless versions. I'm no trader, but I could understand that point of view.And that's a pretty dirty trick. Trust me, it's frowned upon. |
tjbarrett96 03.08.2007 00:09 |
Um, how exactly do I download it? |
The Real Wizard 04.08.2007 11:49 |
tjbarrett96 wrote: Um, how exactly do I download it?You can find some of these concerts in much better quality (lossless FLAC, as opposed to mp3 that cuts out some of the quality) in this topic: link Note that the show listed as "Tokyo 4-24-79" in this topic is actually April 25, from Japanese TV. |