YourValentine 02.07.2007 05:05 |
Hi folks, the day has come that we can share a copy of the Houston 1977 with no stripes. The picture is the best you ever saw and probably the best we can ever get - unless QP find in their hearts to release this concert officially some day. We owe this to Queenzoner pow wow - thank you very much, you make numerous queen fans happy today. File size 3,76 running time 113 min PAL, sound Dolby Digital 2.0 No menu Please do not sell this DVD and please help sharing once you downloaded it. |
misabeat 02.07.2007 05:41 |
Thank you very much YV and POw Wow. Some how thank you just does not seem to be enough. The next best thing is for me to adopt this torrent. Take good care |
freddie lives 28817 02.07.2007 05:59 |
Thank you VERY much indeed. |
pcgenius9 02.07.2007 06:09 |
Wow thanks. It's a great concert and now the vid can do it justice! And yes, you will make me very happy - on my birthday as well! |
Cygnus X-1 02.07.2007 06:15 |
Thank you soooo much Pow Wow & Valentine! This is like a dream come true, to put it in Ian Gillan's Words : Iiiii ttthhhhaaaannnnkkkk you! I leave this torrent open for a long time, please others keep seeding too!! |
Rik&Roll 02.07.2007 07:00 |
Thanks a lot to the two of you! Looking forward for this incredible update. |
stark 02.07.2007 07:04 |
this is really great - thanks to all involved! |
Pim Derks 02.07.2007 07:30 |
Thanks for sharing this - never bothered to watch the old version... I want my concertvideo's in pristine quality ;) |
Stone Cold Leo'82 B.R. 02.07.2007 07:47 |
Thank you Barbara! I have to check with mine, but thanks anyway for everything! :-) Leo'82 B.R. |
Manuel Benes 02.07.2007 07:58 |
Thanks for sharing this great gig on DVD! This will be a improvement to my mpeg-files-version-with-stripes of the show. |
dogwithabone 02.07.2007 08:05 |
Thank you so much to YV and pow wow!!! Any upgrade is much welcome :) |
PBB 02.07.2007 08:15 |
Thank you for this upgrade. :-) |
YourValentine 02.07.2007 08:19 |
There is a German user who already completed the download - please help sharing. Such a fast connection is very valuable. Please do not disconnect. |
rhapsody8 02.07.2007 08:34 |
Wow.. The video quality is excellent. But, I can't finish with torrent file. Maybe someone upload this great concert to Rapidshare, sendspace, badongo etc... |
Kern 02.07.2007 08:53 |
Hi and thanks a lot, before I'll start this, one question. Is this better than the Digital Queen Archives Version shared on Queenhouse.de last year? |
Fat Lizzy 02.07.2007 09:00 |
Thanks PowWow and Barb, download's going great (500kb/s)! Will seed for a long time. Great post!
Kern wrote: Hi and thanks a lot, before I'll start this, one question. Is this better than the Digital Queen Archives Version shared on Queenhouse.de last year?This is like... 20 times better! A must download for all QZ memebers imho. |
Tim June 02.07.2007 09:01 |
Thank you very much for sharing this great video. |
The Real Wizard 02.07.2007 09:02 |
Kern wrote: Hi and thanks a lot, before I'll start this, one question. Is this better than the Digital Queen Archives Version shared on Queenhouse.de last year?MUCH better! Thanks a million, Barbara and Pow Wow! I'll be sure to seed this one for a long time. |
YourValentine 02.07.2007 09:06 |
Great, Don Gerolamo, we really need all help we can get, this torrent will be very popular. I am now sharing it from my (fast) work PC but I cannot do that for long |
Hippolyte 02.07.2007 09:48 |
Thank you. |
Queen1986 02.07.2007 10:00 |
Thank You!!! |
GtKngRat 02.07.2007 10:17 |
Thank you very much ! |
Fat Lizzy 02.07.2007 10:27 |
YourValentine wrote: Great, Don Gerolamo, we really need all help we can get, this torrent will be very popular. I am now sharing it from my (fast) work PC but I cannot do that for longFinished after just 2 hours! I'll be seeding during the daytime when I'm at home with 50kb/s (sorry) and when I'm away or at night with 100kb/s (max for my connection :(). Thanks again, just watched a bit and it's fabulous! Just some very fine lines, a definite upgrade! |
Dagmara 02.07.2007 10:42 |
Thanks |
bokkepoot 02.07.2007 11:12 |
I'm downloading it too now.When ready I can give 170 KB/S for you all during a long time ;) Thanks Barbara and Pow Wow for sharing |
Jay Mantis 02.07.2007 11:23 |
I'm joining in for the seeding. Thanks a lot YV and POw Wow! |
onevsion 02.07.2007 11:34 |
Great Great Great....! Thanks a lot Pow Wow and YV!! Will help seeding! D |
MercuryPox 02.07.2007 11:51 |
OOOH IT'S BLISS!!! Thank You So Much!!! Come on!..Rock On Valentine!! Thanks Pow !! |
Kern 02.07.2007 12:07 |
Wow, thanks a lot. Will jump on now. Thanks |
somebody13 02.07.2007 12:24 |
I have japanese silver. but i think this download is fairly worth to do thank you! |
ibrox 02.07.2007 12:30 |
Thanks - been looking for a good version of this for a long time!! |
Marknow 02.07.2007 12:32 |
Good work pow wow,many thanks for this great upgrade. |
Leonardo Venegas 02.07.2007 12:43 |
Thank You very much! An upgrade is excellent for this great concert! God bless! Can someone put the link where the screenshots were available thanks to pow wow a couple of weeks ago here in queenzone please? Thanks again!!! |
Bobby_brown 02.07.2007 12:52 |
Thanks for sharing this great concert. Take care |
Queenman!! 02.07.2007 13:09 |
Thanks a lot for this great concert!! Keep Rockin´ |
kerfuffle87 02.07.2007 13:40 |
wow thanks in advance for this :o) xxx |
hiljan100 02.07.2007 14:16 |
Thank you very mutch Jan |
deleted user 02.07.2007 14:30 |
One of the best and most satisfying discover of the last years: the striped Houston was already something, but to enjoy such an epic gig in great quality has no price! Thanks to pow wow and YourValentine for her usual big contribution to the community! |
AC 02.07.2007 14:52 |
Thank you, YourValentine and pow wow. |
GuitarMay 02.07.2007 15:02 |
Fantastic!!! I wait anxious to see this. Thanks "pow wow" for available this and "Your Valentine" for sharing here in Queenzone!! Great, great!! José |
Ginger01 02.07.2007 15:13 |
Thanks so much pow wow and YV for sharing this work of art! :) |
Maruga 02.07.2007 16:06 |
Thank you very much for this one... I'll watch it when it finishes and keep seeding the most possible. |
djcamper 02.07.2007 16:13 |
Amazing ! Thank you very much. Waiting for Buenos Aires DVD. |
SCOM 02.07.2007 16:58 |
Thanks for share this great DVD. Can anyboy upload this on Dime? |
thunderbolt 31742 02.07.2007 18:04 |
Thank you! I've been waiting to put Houston on a DVD until we had a stripeless copy out there, now I'll be doing so. I'll start downloading the torrent within a few hours, and will seed for a good long time once I'm at 100%. |
freddie lives 28817 02.07.2007 19:12 |
I really hope some of you folks do seed for a long time because as usual I'm downloading at approximately 10kb/s, but somehow Im uploading at 26kb/s. I really don't understand how that works. Can't believe some people got all of this in a couple of hours today - definitive proof perhaps that even 8mb ADSL in the UK is rubbish! Now you all know why I always post stuff using rapidshare - it's faster then torrents for me! |
The Real Wizard 02.07.2007 19:47 |
Leonardo Venegas wrote: Can someone put the link where the screenshots were available thanks to pow wow a couple of weeks ago here in queenzone please?Sure thing... they're in page 2 of this topic: link |
Josh Henson 02.07.2007 21:31 |
Thanks so much for sharing guys! Can't wait to hear this and seed it!!!! |
bokkepoot 03.07.2007 00:52 |
The Quality is for sure a big upgrade. It is really fun to watch this concert. without the lines. Really good work !!! Seeding now for a long time !! greetings from Bokkepoot |
jerome.wuzz 03.07.2007 03:57 |
wow, looks like a great improvment. thanx for sharing !!! |
djcamper 03.07.2007 04:30 |
I want to seed this on dimeadozen, anybody want to co-host? Who will post torrent doesn't matter.I will finish my downloading in 5 hours. |
somebody13 03.07.2007 05:07 |
this one contains some official material(WWRY fast, My Melancholy Blues and SHA) so it's illegal to upload for Dime |
djcamper 03.07.2007 05:13 |
Damn, i forgot about that. Thank you. |
pow wow 03.07.2007 05:21 |
Glad everyone likes it. Amazing what you find sitting on your shelf for all this time :-) Thanks for making a torrent of it Barbara. |
Nummer2 03.07.2007 05:42 |
So, at last, after recovering from some tooth surgery yesterday, I finally started downloading this. I'm glad, that I don't have to chew this, just watch and listen ;-) Thanks to all of you uploaders and seeders! |
diesel_79c 03.07.2007 05:48 |
Thanks very very much! I'm downloading (and seeding now)! |
Rien 03.07.2007 12:18 |
This is great. Thanks for sharing! |
Tim Goossen 03.07.2007 13:25 |
Thank you very much! Tim |
Padilla 03.07.2007 14:03 |
Just finished DLing, cant wait to watch it. Thank you much for this!! |
Roy ® 03.07.2007 14:17 |
This is indeed an great update, watching rigth now. Thank you very much PowWow and YV I'm seeding on my work (fast connection) day and nigth. |
thunderbolt 31742 03.07.2007 16:19 |
Am I wrong in thinking that the audio quality is also superior to the DQA version? I didn't hear the usual dropouts during the opening "We Will Rock You" medley, but my ears aren't as finely-tuned as some here. |
abelardox 03.07.2007 16:48 |
Thanks YV! i love this concert! |
Richy Mercury 03.07.2007 17:58 |
I'm seeding now at 550 kb/s. Full blast! I've been doing this now for the past 24 hours. I need to download an Iron Maiden dvd. If anybody wants me to seed for another 24 hours, I will. I must have 10 requests to do this. |
Leonardo Venegas 03.07.2007 18:16 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Thank you very much Sir GH you are a great person!Leonardo Venegas wrote: Can someone put the link where the screenshots were available thanks to pow wow a couple of weeks ago here in queenzone please?Sure thing... they're in page 2 of this topic: link And I must say this looks awesome, great quality! Thanks again pow wow and Your Valentine! I love queenzone! Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
thunderbolt 31742 03.07.2007 23:16 |
If I get the time (big if right now, getting ready to move, start a new job, etc.) and there's demand for it, I may try to give this a proper menu and chapter cuts, then either upload the finished product or send it to someone with a better connection to seed. Is this something any of you would be interested in? |
The Real Wizard 04.07.2007 00:03 |
somebody13 wrote: this one contains some official material(WWRY fast, My Melancholy Blues and SHA) so it's illegal to upload for DimeNot only that, but this DVD wouldn't meet Dime's quality standards, since it's lossy. Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote: Am I wrong in thinking that the audio quality is also superior to the DQA version? I didn't hear the usual dropouts during the opening "We Will Rock You" medley, but my ears aren't as finely-tuned as some here.The audio is a tad weaker on this one, actually. Leonardo Venegas wrote: Thank you very much Sir GH you are a great person!Well, thanks. :) But your soccer team is better than mine! I was at the game on Sunday, and Chile completely destroyed Canada in every way! Since then, I've had "Chi Chi Chi... Le Le Le... Viva Chile" ringing in my ears! Ha ha! |
qiqa 04.07.2007 03:17 |
Hi, is anyone seeding right now? I don't see anyone...pls help. Thanks. [edited to add: thanks everybody! downloading now!] |
Cygnus X-1 04.07.2007 04:27 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:The DQA vers. was a bit better sounding. On this one there's a total lack of bass and the overall sound is too "flat", but with some eq. tuning it sounds fine over my new Klipsch Speakers :-)))Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote: Am I wrong in thinking that the audio quality is also superior to the DQA version? I didn't hear the usual dropouts during the opening "We Will Rock You" medley, but my ears aren't as finely-tuned as some here.The audio is a tad weaker on this one, actually. But isn't this Show great?! I watched it twice yesterday and it's amazing to see this great concert in such a fantastic quality. (Brian's look in his face during his Solo in STL is priceless) Also I'm in love with Car is outstanding, beautiefull Piano work from Freddie! This one beats even Earl's Court!! |
pow wow 04.07.2007 05:58 |
Not only that, but this DVD wouldn't meet Dime's quality standards, since it's lossy. Hello Bob, I don't understand how it's lossy as I copied it straight from video tape using a Panasonic stand alone recorder. Can you expand? Cheers |
pittrek 04.07.2007 06:22 |
He meant that it has ac3 sound (lossy), and not LPCM, but anyway, it's great a we all thank you. If you're still enjoying the sun, have a nice time :) |
CGtteir 04.07.2007 08:59 |
Beautiful upload. |
PieterMC 04.07.2007 09:40 |
Thanks!!! |
Leonardo Venegas 04.07.2007 10:57 |
Wrong! |
Leonardo Venegas 04.07.2007 11:00 |
Double Wrong! |
Leonardo Venegas 04.07.2007 11:01 |
Triple wrong! |
Leonardo Venegas 04.07.2007 11:03 |
Sir GH Wrote:Well, thanks. :) But your soccer team is better than mine! I was at the game on Sunday, and Chile completely destroyed Canada in every way! Since then, I've had "Chi Chi Chi... Le Le Le... Viva Chile" ringing in my ears! Ha ha!Yeah, Chi Chi Chi... Le Le Le... Viva Chile! I hope Canada wins the next matches! I saw that game on T.V. maybe I saw you there, great attendance and a beautiful day! Chile played very well, but there are a few players in Chile's team that are very selfish, it's hard for them to pass the ball immediately, but a great result for us! Good luck with your new website, looks cool! Greetings!!! |
Leonardo Venegas 04.07.2007 11:05 |
Wrong Again! Sorry! I love Queen btw! Greetings! |
mikezep61 04.07.2007 11:34 |
Could someone please help seed this great show. There are currently no seeders (and this has only been up for two days!) |
Rien 04.07.2007 12:12 |
No seeders? I can see 32 seeders. |
Leonardo Venegas 04.07.2007 12:58 |
I see 34 seeders at the moment! Check your settings! I recommend you to use utorrent, it works perfect to me! Bye! |
The Real Wizard 04.07.2007 13:18 |
pow wow wrote: I don't understand how it's lossy as I copied it straight from video tape using a Panasonic stand alone recorder. Can you expand? CheersA lossless single-sided DVD cannot exceed 60 minutes, and the audio must be PCM (not AC3). If it's longer than 60 minutes, that means you're putting more footage onto the DVD but compromising quality. So... technically, this could actually be a bit better quality if it was stretched over two DVDs. :) If this DVD was put on Dime, within hours the torrent would be deleted, even though it's quite possibly the greatest Queen DVD ever... they wouldn't care. |
Erik Viking 04.07.2007 13:53 |
Big Big thank you !! |
freddie lives 28817 04.07.2007 14:09 |
Regards Dimes' policy. That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard - who makes this rubbish up? There are plenty of official DVDs on the merketplace that use ac3 sound and not PCM, and have programme content that lasts longer than 60 minutes. Dime's policy would suggest that (were official items allowed on their site), they'd filter out any that use ac3 sound???? That's even more stupid than removing 3 songs from an unreleased unnofficial concert because those 3 songs were released officially on a compilation. |
SCOM 04.07.2007 14:24 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Sorry for the offtopic, but Bob, queenlive.ca is awesome!!!pow wow wrote: I don't understand how it's lossy as I copied it straight from video tape using a Panasonic stand alone recorder. Can you expand? CheersA lossless single-sided DVD cannot exceed 60 minutes, and the audio must be PCM (not AC3). If it's longer than 60 minutes, that means you're putting more footage onto the DVD but compromising quality. So... technically, this could actually be a bit better quality if it was stretched over two DVDs. :) If this DVD was put on Dime, within hours the torrent would be deleted, even though it's quite possibly the greatest Queen DVD ever... they wouldn't care. |
The Real Wizard 04.07.2007 15:26 |
freddie lives wrote: That's even more stupid than removing 3 songs from an unreleased unnofficial concert because those 3 songs were released officially on a compilation.Welcome to the wonderful, restricting world that is Dime. I'd like to consider myself as someone with quality standards, but sometimes they just take these things way too far. However, in this case, they're right. Official DVDs that exceed 60 minutes are double-sided. Ever noticed the brief pause half-way through? For instance, on the Queen Wembley DVD at the beginning of the guitar solo. That's when the laser is moving to the other side of the disc.. :) SCOM wrote: Sorry for the offtopic, but Bob, queenlive.ca is awesome!!!Thanks! Indeed, no hijacking! I've got my own topic in the serious forum. :) |
Bobby_brown 04.07.2007 15:48 |
freddie lives wrote: Regards Dimes' policy. That's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard - who makes this rubbish up? There are plenty of official DVDs on the merketplace that use ac3 sound and not PCM, and have programme content that lasts longer than 60 minutes.Those are double layer DVD´s. Most of us still don´t have hardware to burn that kind of files. Take care |
pow wow 04.07.2007 15:52 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Thanks Bob. Enjoying your new site by the way. Well done.pow wow wrote: I don't understand how it's lossy as I copied it straight from video tape using a Panasonic stand alone recorder. Can you expand? CheersA lossless single-sided DVD cannot exceed 60 minutes, and the audio must be PCM (not AC3). If it's longer than 60 minutes, that means you're putting more footage onto the DVD but compromising quality. So... technically, this could actually be a bit better quality if it was stretched over two DVDs. :) If this DVD was put on Dime, within hours the torrent would be deleted, even though it's quite possibly the greatest Queen DVD ever... they wouldn't care. |
Nummer2 04.07.2007 16:25 |
Where do you get your info regarding DVDs at DIME from? I never read anything like that in their Wiki. I'm sure, there's no technical reason for rejecting or banning this video. But the "official" songs wouldn't be allowed, of course. While I am writing this, the DVD is playing – and it's indeed a fantastic upgrade! Thanks again! |
The Real Wizard 04.07.2007 16:47 |
Nummer2 wrote: Where do you get your info regarding DVDs at DIME from? I never read anything like that in their Wiki. I'm sure, there's no technical reason for rejecting or banning this video. But the "official" songs wouldn't be allowed, of course.I'm not sure if they explicitly write their DVD policies on their wiki, but I've seen many DVDs pulled because they're a single-sided disc over an hour long. Just search Dime for DVDs... if it's a single disc, it's an hour or less. If it's longer, it's spread over two discs. Except for this one: link Be watching it... a mod will see it soon, and pull it. |
freddie lives 28817 04.07.2007 19:12 |
Guys, I don't want to argue, but there are plenty of single sided DVDs on the market that exceed 60 minutes. Depends what it is, but I've loads of TV series box sets that use a single sided, single layer disc to put the last 2 (50 minute) episodes on. Now I'm in the UK - so whether they do it differently in the USA I don't know. |
The Real Wizard 05.07.2007 00:06 |
I don't want to argue, either. I'm all for lossless audio, but I have yet to notice the difference in picture quality between 60 minute and 120 minute single-sided DVDs... so we're really on the same page! But upon proper scrutiny, I'm sure there is a difference. |
928 05.07.2007 04:20 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I don't want to argue, either. I'm all for lossless audio, but I have yet to notice the difference in picture quality between 60 minute and 120 minute single-sided DVDs... so we're really on the same page!Ahhhh....that could be because standalones ,many as there are ,can do different things depending on the brand & the money you paid out Bob. & @Freddie lives....i bet the audio is not PCM Some SA's will record top bit rate video & PCM audio for 1 hour and just compress the audio to AC3/mp2 for 2 hours+ leaving no picture difference. Others will drop the video to Half D resolution(576x352 from 720x576)-PAL to keep the PCM or keep a high vid rate for 2 hours.That's virtually a CVCD ,a China disc ,a Super Super VCD for want of a better term Others go a different way....you get the idea. THIS video It started life 100% guaranteed as an NTSC recording. With that knowledge you can work out that at least 1 re-encoding took place. Those lines are interlace lines similar to what you get on Rockpalast broadcasts..They should be there ..so if they are not there now,its been re-encoded again somewhere.(now we're talking at least 2) Those black speckle dashes are a combination of wrong contrast & gamma levels usually occuring where someone has re-encoded to make the image outlines sharper and saying fuck it to the rest.But it can also be from a many generation loss copies done with poor cheap equipment and shitty cabling allowing interference(now its 3 re-encs but could possibly still be 2 as it may of been done at the same time) Then there are the generation copies that will also lose you its clarity from copy to copy. The audio We wont really know because most QZ people just say "it has sound" if you see what i mean. No records of anything about anything...look at the linage for this.Basically saying a video with sound from a VHS. I say that about the audio because all could of been done to the video and then the audio put back on last thing.Unlikely though. I would highly suspect that this audio is a bit squelchy under spectrum scutinization. If it had been transfered in HQ 1 hour mode it would be in PCM which at least would of kept it lossless from that point as it would only uncompress the audio and not convert again to whatever. To Everyone So now you have a rough knowledge that at least 2/3 better versions of this exist.1stly it must be in NTSC. Now you can hunt for that/those whilst sharing this,but WITH FULL SERVICE HISTORY and then when you find another version you will be able to tell the difference by factual txt info without even seeing the picture. See how easy it can be?? I know of this version.........IMO its crap like the others ..in a different way though. Wheres the happy medium of both versions and the lower gen copies???Thats what i would like to know ....thats the gemstone line & 100% for sure ,they are out there.Common sense tells you that!! It also says its being hoarded!! Here's something general Be a bit real when judging quality people...dont get overwhelmed because its your band and you havn't seen this show before glazed viewing judging. Look at it as VIDEO. Not just this show ,but would you say it was excellent if you had just hired it out from blockbusters?I think not. So grade video like that as a rule of thumb +/-. 10 a true hollywood DVD ,9 a shop bought VHS ..8 a VHS TV recording master etc. So a VCD is hardly going to be excellent is it?Nor a many gen VHS...Get me ;)Be neutral Judge the audio seperatly Then you know if your getting skunk or solid...lol PS: Heres something to stop you looking a bit silly and then you can laugh at everyone else. SCREENSHOTS.......you are all downloading them. At any point(be sensible),stop downloading and play what you have in VLC player. Those without VLC player...change the extention |
pow wow 05.07.2007 05:33 |
Good read that 928. I've got a couple more vids I would like to upload in the future. All are impovements to what I've seen. Rather than use a stand alone recorder what software/hardware can you recommend to maintain quality? Thanks. |
pittrek 05.07.2007 06:32 |
928 - again one of your "everybody except me is an idiot" posts ? I fully understand what you are trying to say, but I don't like the way you are saying it. The stuff you want to say can be said or written in a much more polite way. To all - I have a feeling that this is a film > NTSC > PAL conversion, not only NTSC > PAL. The video looks like it was telecined, then IVTC'd and then converted to interlaced PAL, but the film origin is only a theory. Just look at the blended fields, a common result of a bad NTSC > PAL conversion. Also I think it was shot in 16:9, just watch how "squeezed" the left border is. BUT ... And Now the big BUT comes ... These artefacts are ALSO on ALL OFFICIAL RELEASED PARTS of this concert, so I don't think you're gonna find a better version of this concert !!! Even the version QP has is the same "crap" as 928 called it, therefore I see no reason for any critiscs to pow wow . I don't know about dime rules, but those guys look like a bunch of idiots to me. If they allowed officially released material to be shared there, 80% of official DVDs wouldn't be allowed there. Lossy DVD - I don't know who invented this term, but it's complete bullshit. EVERY DVD HAS LOSSY VIDEO ! EVERY ! Because the DVD-Video format uses mpeg-2 compresion, which is lossy ! Only the audio track can be lossless, but LPCM audio is usually used only on concert DVDs, because it's approx. 1.5 GB for 2 hours. If you take in mind, that a single-sided, single-layered DVD can contain just 4.3 GB of data, including the video track(s), the audio track(s), the menus, the bonus features ... and you take in mind how expensive dual-layer DVDs are, you will understand, why LPCM is rarely used. Pow Wow - thank you (again) for sharing this with us. I personally do my VHS captures with my DVD recorder, but since it can't record LPCM audio, I usuaaly do a separate audio-only capture with my soundcard and then synchonise it in Cool Edit Pro. But if you want to know how the "experts" do it, try to read this : link |
928 05.07.2007 08:17 |
pittrek wrote: 928 - again one of your "everybody except me is an idiot" posts ? I fully understand what you are trying to say, but I don't like the way you are saying it. The stuff you want to say can be said or written in a much more polite way. To all - I have a feeling that this is a film > NTSC > PAL conversion, not only NTSC > PAL. The video looks like it was telecined, then IVTC'd and then converted to interlaced PAL, but the film origin is only a theory. Just look at the blended fields, a common result of a bad NTSC > PAL conversion. Also I think it was shot in 16:9, just watch how "squeezed" the left border is. BUT ... And Now the big BUT comes ... These artefacts are ALSO on ALL OFFICIAL RELEASED PARTS of this concert, so I don't think you're gonna find a better version of this concert !!! Even the version QP has is the same "crap" as 928 called it, therefore I see no reason for any critiscs to pow wow . I don't know about dime rules, but those guys look like a bunch of idiots to me. If they allowed officially released material to be shared there, 80% of official DVDs wouldn't be allowed there. Lossy DVD - I don't know who invented this term, but it's complete bullshit. EVERY DVD HAS LOSSY VIDEO ! EVERY ! Because the DVD-Video format uses mpeg-2 compresion, which is lossy ! Only the audio track can be lossless, but LPCM audio is usually used only on concert DVDs, because it's approx. 1.5 GB for 2 hours. If you take in mind, that a single-sided, single-layered DVD can contain just 4.3 GB of data, including the video track(s), the audio track(s), the menus, the bonus features ... and you take in mind how expensive dual-layer DVDs are, you will understand, why LPCM is rarely used. Pow Wow - thank you (again) for sharing this with us. I personally do my VHS captures with my DVD recorder, but since it can't record LPCM audio, I usuaaly do a separate audio-only capture with my soundcard and then synchonise it in Cool Edit Pro. But if you want to know how the "experts" do it, try to read this : link---------------------------------------------- You see there you go assuming again......thats what seperates me from you. I have typed it this way so that ALL can understand.NOT just the tech savies. Bottom line lamen. Depending on your frame of mind is how you will interperate how its said. I thourght it dealt with a lot and made some people realize something that they didnt before. AND where did i slag Pow wow off? Fuck me,even he could work out that i was talking about the History of the show.Its called linage tosser Is it his fault in any way of the way he got it...no.It could of been transfered in HQ to prevent an audio change...that was all.BUT if you read i was mainly talking about VIDEO Did i fault him...no,he did what standalones do. Did i tell you the probable history of it regardless of who fuckin' owned,upped or whatever it...yes WAAAAAAAAAAAAnker We all know about mpeg2 also being lossy...i explained that in a different post & thread a while back. You obviously didnt catch that one.But well done for knowing ,you can't be that transparent then..tut. I will say to you carry on reading your videohelp forums m8 You're probably reading my posts to help people only in slightly more advanced terms that i see you comprehend.You see...i dont need the forums,there's the difference. @Pow wow. To save going through all the pros & cons of capture cards ,TBC's(Time Base Correctors) and a mountain of specs to do it as that can also bring finance into the equation,a simple set up would be to just find a very good VCR that has S-VHS output or even a SVHS player and go down the that avenue in the transfer. But you're doing as best as can with what you have.Just refine it a little.You'll appreciate years later that YOU did.Its not just for m |
Richy Mercury 05.07.2007 08:27 |
pow wow wrote: Good read that 928. I've got a couple more vids I would like to upload in the future. All are impovements to what I've seen. Rather than use a stand alone recorder what software/hardware can you recommend to maintain quality? Thanks.Which videos pow wow? |
pittrek 05.07.2007 10:26 |
928 wrote You see there you go assuming again......thats what seperates me from you.Yes, but I wrote it in the way that everybody knows whats a theory and what's a fact. I see nothing bas about it. I have typed it this way so that ALL can understand.NOT just the tech savies. Bottom line lamen.Just a few quotes from your posts ... ...and saying fuck it to the rest.But it can also be from a many generation loss copies done with poor cheap equipment and shitty cabling allowing interference... ....IMO its crap like the others ... ...Heres something to stop you looking a bit silly..THAT is what I was talking about. I have NOTHING about the CONTENT of your posts, I simply don't like your LANGUAGE (fuck, shit, crap...). AND where did i slag Pow wow off? Fuck me,even he could work out that i was talking about the History of the show.Its called linage tosser Is it his fault in any way of the way he got it...noDon't you think you answered yourself ? :-) It is the BEST version of Houston, which we have, and it's because pow wow was so nice and decided to share it. Could he do it better ? Yes, of course, but it doesn't change the fact that he gave us the (yet) best version of Houston. Maybe you could say at least something like "thank you for at least this, but ...". We all know about mpeg2 also being lossy...i explained that in a different post & thread a while back.This wasn't against you, more against the dime guys, sorry if you thought it was, I simply get mad when I see somebody using the term "lossless DVD", it's a complete nonsense, like a "lossless fish" or something. will say to you carry on reading your videohelp forums m8Huh ??? Did I mentioned somewhere videohelp forums or what ? I don't understand that. i dont need the forums,there's the difference. Another "huh ???" Did I say that you need to read some forums ? Or do you think I have my knowledge taken from some forum ? I'm sorry but I again don't understand what should that mean. If you're talking about the doom9.org link, I gave it to pow wow, because it's a great newbie article. |
Rik&Roll 05.07.2007 10:31 |
928, keep your pants on. What the guy is trying to say is simply that it is the tone that makes the music. That's all. Your idea of videoranking (10=hollywood DVD, etc) is a very good one. I just don't agree with you when you call this DVD crap. This DVD is a great improvement compared with the copies that were circulating on QZ. Since the show on it is a brilliant one as well, we owe powwow and your valentine a big thank you! |
Crezchi 05.07.2007 14:35 |
Bob is correct, with raw video & audio, when you record it in the highest quality, it is ONLY 60 mins. Almost none of the retail dvds (movies) are in the highest quality possible, or they would have to use a Dual-Layer dvd, alot of them compress it onto a Single layer (4.7gb), perhaps if we want the highest quality we can buy the 720i versions? |
FriedChicken 05.07.2007 17:14 |
Why doesn't this dvd have good chapters?? When I don't want to listen to a song I can't skip a chapter because chapters start in the middle of a song, or skip a couple of songs. |
pow wow 05.07.2007 18:10 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: Why doesn't this dvd have good chapters?? When I don't want to listen to a song I can't skip a chapter because chapters start in the middle of a song, or skip a couple of songs.It hasnt got song chapters as it was recorded using the recorders pre-sets, which I think are five or ten minute intervals. I just wanted to get it out there in it's rawest form knowing someone would splice it up and create menu's etc. |
Erin 05.07.2007 21:51 |
Thanks so much for sharing this, pow wow! :-) |
thunderbolt 31742 06.07.2007 00:10 |
pow wow wrote:As we speeak, I'm trying to see if that's doable with what I've got. If it is, I'll let you all know, and would be willing to DVD it up and send the finished product to another QZ'er with a better connection to upload.FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: Why doesn't this dvd have good chapters?? When I don't want to listen to a song I can't skip a chapter because chapters start in the middle of a song, or skip a couple of songs.It hasnt got song chapters as it was recorded using the recorders pre-sets, which I think are five or ten minute intervals. I just wanted to get it out there in it's rawest form knowing someone would splice it up and create menu's etc. |
zodiac 06.07.2007 02:48 |
Thanks very much for sharing this footage! |
Raf 06.07.2007 10:17 |
Thanks a lot YV and pow wow. |
freddie lives 28817 06.07.2007 15:05 |
Creating a menu'd DVD IS possible - I've already done it. If you use DVDdecrypter to rip the disc, the audio rips off saying there is no delay. What you need to do though is add 4 frames onto the beginning of the audio before re-authoring with a menu, otherwise you get a noticable sync problem when viewing. Some of you may not want my copy though as I converted the ac3 to wav and then back again so the sound is REALLY lossy now - even though you can't actually tell by listening to it. If anyone wants it, let me know and then I'll just need to figure out how to torrent... |
tgunn2760 06.07.2007 15:17 |
Thanks, this is an upgrade from the striped one for me! |
fanatic125 06.07.2007 17:23 |
Is it supposed to skip? I'm previewing it in PowerDVD and when Freddie sings it goes "Buddy you're a boy make a big noise playing in the street gonna be- We Will We Will rock You" |
928 06.07.2007 17:29 |
freddie lives wrote: Creating a menu'd DVD IS possible - I've already done it. If you use DVDdecrypter to rip the disc, the audio rips off saying there is no delay. What you need to do though is add 4 frames onto the beginning of the audio before re-authoring with a menu, otherwise you get a noticable sync problem when viewing. Some of you may not want my copy though as I converted the ac3 to wav and then back again so the sound is REALLY lossy now - even though you can't actually tell by listening to it.1 you dont add frames...you move the audio 2 I think you meant that YOU can't tell by listening to it......not you etc.. 3 why torrent it & pollute the trade pool. Geez...you lot are so unreal sometimes in screwing up sources, it seems that not even a chalk & blackboard way of explaining gets through to you...and to think i got the blame for explaining it all dumbed down so that even a wet fart could understand. Now maybe you know why i explain how i do Pitrek!! What did you quote to me....."There i go acting like everyone but me is an idiot". Or something like that wasnt it Hmmm |
Bobby_brown 06.07.2007 17:45 |
928 is right about not torrent a worst version of this! There are professionals on this board that can Author the video and then torrent or guive others to torrent. But since this is the best version around (for me at least) and after 928 and Pittrek explanations about lossy videofiles and audio, to consider to make a torrent of a worst version would be of bad taste after all the discussions that took place. We know that sometimes people just want to show their gratitude with other fans- and we appreciate - but lets try and keep quallity standards in Queenzone when possible. Because before you know, some newbie comes here and share an Mpeg 1GB. Other newbies say thanks and download, and then the cicle continues! Take care |
thunderbolt 31742 06.07.2007 23:23 |
928 wrote:So what would make you happy, oh Great Overlord, Keeper of the Lossless DVDs? We've got the best quality video of this concert that's been seen by the common collector's eyes yet, and all you can do is whine about how it's another lossy torrent polluting our collections. Do you have a better version that you're trying desperately to keep under wraps, or are you just one of the many ingrates who don't understand that for those of us who don't have the time, money, or desire to become hardcore traders, this is the best version of one of the few well-preserved shows from the 1970s that we're ever likely to see?freddie lives wrote: Creating a menu'd DVD IS possible - I've already done it. If you use DVDdecrypter to rip the disc, the audio rips off saying there is no delay. What you need to do though is add 4 frames onto the beginning of the audio before re-authoring with a menu, otherwise you get a noticable sync problem when viewing. Some of you may not want my copy though as I converted the ac3 to wav and then back again so the sound is REALLY lossy now - even though you can't actually tell by listening to it.1 you dont add frames...you move the audio 2 I think you meant that YOU can't tell by listening to it......not you etc.. 3 why torrent it & pollute the trade pool. Geez...you lot are so unreal sometimes in screwing up sources, it seems that not even a chalk & blackboard way of explaining gets through to you...and to think i got the blame for explaining it all dumbed down so that even a wet fart could understand. Now maybe you know why i explain how i do Pitrek!! What did you quote to me....."There i go acting like everyone but me is an idiot". Or something like that wasnt it Hmmm Tell you what, if you're so great and powerful, why don't you do one of three things. Either: 1. Make like me, and try to strip the audio off of this version, attach the DQA audio, sync the whole thing up, and split it into chapters. Maybe for a Great Overlord, Keeper of the Lossless DVDs like yourself, that's easy as pie, but for a relative novice like myself trying to do that with video editing software designed for use with Mommy's video camera, it's not so simple. 2. Come out and tell us all that you have a version with better picture and sound quality and we can't have it because we're lowly underlings, servants of the Great Overlord, Keeper of the Lossless DVDs. 3. Shut up. I for one am thrilled by this release, and I'm trying to give something back to the Queen community that's given me so much by giving it an audio facelift and slapping proper menus and chapters onto it. Pow wow and YV have given us the best version of this concert we've ever seen from a picture-quality standpoint. All you can do is whine and talk down to us. Either explain the "problems" with this DVD to us like we're adults, without using four-letter words to tell us all how stupid and insignificant we are, or go shout at the wall because there's *another* lossy video out there. Lossy or not, this is the best picture quality I've seen of this show, and as I can only suspect that the original tape and multitracks are in QP's archives, never to be seen or heard again by anyone except Greg Brooks, I think this is about as good as we're going to get. I, for one, want to thank pow wow and YV for giving us this opportunity, and I'll continue to try and do whatever I can to help the QZ community come up with a "definitive" release of Houston '77. And if I'm pissing in the trade pool by doing so, oh well. Somebody come up with a first-generation tape and the original multitracks, and I'll stop all work I'm doing on this. Until then, I will do what I can to help make this the best Houston release in every way. |
928 07.07.2007 04:49 |
Try reading who i replied to next time Thunderbolt and even...ooh...what it was about. And even replies before & after. When you've done that i'll see if i can set some instructions up in braile as words seem a challenge for you. |
ztiger_uk 07.07.2007 04:56 |
Many thanks for sharing! I have re-authored this for my own use and if the following Chapter points are of any use, please use them: 00:05:47.23 00:09:48.10 00:16:34.00 00:19:39.07 00:21:39.07 00:24:06.16 00:26:18.04 00:29:58.00 00:33:36.22 00:35:48.22 00:46:36.22 00:50:34.00 00:54:36.22 00:57:12.22 00:58:39.07 01:16:58.24 01:21:06.04 01:23:21.13 01:28:46.00 01:32:57.13 01:39:08.14 01:41:00.10 01:46:07.15 01:47:46.00 01:52:17.17 |
oldrelic 07.07.2007 06:31 |
Amazing, thanks for this. |
freddie lives 28817 07.07.2007 06:33 |
Guys, 1) My post was to tell people who want to re-author the disc and add a menu that the sound is out of sync by 4 frames unless you add them at the start - they can be added to the sound file itself or they can be added by moving the sound file along the timeline by 4 frames. Either way 4 frames need to be ADDED to the start, so don't get picky with me! 2) The reason I converted the ac3 to wav and back again was so I could improve the sound quality a little for MY OWN listening purposes. If anyone wants me to upload the concert with a menu I can easily put the original sound file back on, and then the originals' quality will NOT have been changed. |
Bobby_brown 07.07.2007 11:18 |
edit |
crevecon 07.07.2007 11:29 |
All I can say is thanks so much for this gem!! I downloaded a chunk of it to watch how it looks like and i definitely got astonished about the quality of this gig. Thank you thank you so much, and thanks to all those who are still seeding. ;-) |
bohemian 11513 07.07.2007 13:00 |
Thanx so much for spreading this excellent version of the "holy grail" pow wow!!! PS: Cant´t wait for 928´s version ready for download though... ;-) |
rareconcerts 07.07.2007 14:27 |
Thank you very much for this one! |
freddie lives 28817 07.07.2007 15:13 |
edit |
boingdabber 07.07.2007 15:28 |
Thank you so much. Been waiting a long time to see such a great quality version. Again....thank you! |
Bobby_brown 07.07.2007 15:56 |
freddie lives wrote: Bobby Brown. When i said "the sound is REALLY lossy", I was being sarcastic because there's always someone on here who wants to have a moan and have a go at other folks. Sorry if I was a a bit defensive. How about we clean up this particular discussion a bit? I'll remove my defensiveness and maybe you will remove the relevent part of your post?Donne! Sorry if i´ve missed the sarcastic aspect of your post. But it was never to offend you. Everything´s fine ; ) Take care |
SCOM 08.07.2007 00:50 |
which is the exactly lineage for this one? |
Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 08.07.2007 06:31 |
Wow!... It's a dream for every Queen lover. Thank you so much, pow wow and YourValentine! Seeding will be very much appreciated. |
Vilatrista 08.07.2007 06:55 |
Thank you very much!!! |
on my way up 08.07.2007 07:42 |
thanks for this, it looks really amazing. I will download it soon. I do not have much experience with dvd's so can someone tell me how I create a nice dvd once i've completed downloading. Menus and all that stuff, I don't know how to do all that. It's new for me:-) |
Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 08.07.2007 10:49 |
Stuck at 25.9%. |
magicalfreddiemercury 08.07.2007 14:58 |
First of all - THANK YOU!!! :-) Now... I'm confused. I show 12 peers but only 2 seeds. I thought torrent files were automatically uploaded as they're downloaded. Shouldn't there be 12 seeds? And here, while I'm only at 1.7% and downloading 0 - yes, zero - KBs, I'm somehow uploading 5. Does that make sense to anyone? |
Ginger01 08.07.2007 15:04 |
magicalfreddiemercury wrote: First of all - THANK YOU!!! :-) Now... I'm confused. I show 12 peers but only 2 seeds. I thought torrent files were automatically uploaded as they're downloaded. Shouldn't there be 12 seeds? And here, while I'm only at 1.7% and downloading 0 - yes, zero - KBs, I'm somehow uploading 5. Does that make sense to anyone?No - there has to be something wrong - I'm seeding and I see 38 seeders to 34 leeches (out of 74 "visible"). You must be one of the "invisible" ;) Seriously though, I don't know what client you're using - you might want to try utorrent (link which generally works well here. Also, try "updating" the tracker (the actual term changes from client to client). In other words, there are lots of seeds out there - good luck! |
magicalfreddiemercury 08.07.2007 15:51 |
Ginger01 wrote: No - there has to be something wrong - I'm seeding and I see 38 seeders to 34 leeches (out of 74 "visible"). You must be one of the "invisible" ;) Seriously though, I don't know what client you're using - you might want to try utorrent (link which generally works well here. Also, try "updating" the tracker (the actual term changes from client to client). In other words, there are lots of seeds out there - good luck!I don't know if I'm invisible because I can't quite figure this stuff out, but I do thank you, Ginger01! I was using BitTorrent but I did as you suggested and switched to uTorrent. I'm now downloading 10KBs!! Wow. Speedy. :-) Thanks again. EDIT - Wow. I'm working at 22 down and 27 up! It's good to know I'm not one of the leeches! :D |
tgunn2760 08.07.2007 16:08 |
ztiger_uk wrote: Many thanks for sharing! I have re-authored this for my own use and if the following Chapter points are of any use, please use them: 00:05:47.23 00:09:48.10 00:16:34.00 00:19:39.07 00:21:39.07 00:24:06.16 00:26:18.04 00:29:58.00 00:33:36.22 00:35:48.22 00:46:36.22 00:50:34.00 00:54:36.22 00:57:12.22 00:58:39.07 01:16:58.24 01:21:06.04 01:23:21.13 01:28:46.00 01:32:57.13 01:39:08.14 01:41:00.10 01:46:07.15 01:47:46.00 01:52:17.17The first chapter point should be at 2.00 (two minutes). The intro and WWRY slow end there, and WWRY fast begins. The next chapter is at 5:47, Brighton Rock. I haven't checked to see if the rest are accurate. |
The Real Wizard 08.07.2007 17:57 |
Everyone should know, there's something wrong with the audio, and it's very easy to fix it if you have the right software. Basically, all you need to do is extract the audio and copy one of the channels over the other, to make it mono (and then raise the volume to be twice as loud). Some DVD burners mess up the audio, and create this pseudo-stereo sound. This small edit will make it sound far better! Let me know what you think! |
freddie lives 28817 08.07.2007 21:38 |
So what's wrong with the audio? |
freddie lives 28817 08.07.2007 21:42 |
So what's wrong with the audio? |
rhapsody8 09.07.2007 10:37 |
Which software we should use for editing chapter times? I'm using a Mac but if there is a Windows software for this, no problem... |
eddie_mercury 09.07.2007 11:23 |
pleasse in rapidshare, pleasse |
Ka Pepe 09.07.2007 15:38 |
big thank you for this release! alavet! |
tgunn2760 09.07.2007 20:47 |
rhapsody8 wrote: Which software we should use for editing chapter times? I'm using a Mac but if there is a Windows software for this, no problem...You have to enter the chapter points manually. You can do this with any DVD authoring software I think. The person who posted the chapter points did most of the work, if they are accurate. |
tgunn2760 09.07.2007 20:48 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Everyone should know, there's something wrong with the audio, and it's very easy to fix it if you have the right software. Basically, all you need to do is extract the audio and copy one of the channels over the other, to make it mono (and then raise the volume to be twice as loud). Some DVD burners mess up the audio, and create this pseudo-stereo sound. This small edit will make it sound far better! Let me know what you think!What's the problem with the audio? I played it some on my PC and it sounded fine, but haven't burned it to disc yet as I have to create a menu and chapters. The other version, with the TV lines, sounds fine on disc. |
The Real Wizard 10.07.2007 00:17 |
Here, I've posted a "before" and an "after". Tell me if you hear the difference. All I did was extract the audio with ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper, run GoldWave, copy one channel on top of the other to make it mono, and then doubled the volume. To my ears, the difference is so huge. Before: link After: link Your thoughts? |
pittrek 10.07.2007 02:01 |
There definitely IS a difference. |
comaman2 10.07.2007 03:29 |
About the sound problem: I've checked it and there is a strange phasing error where both channels sound fine played one at a time but together they sort of phase out each other even though they still are great sounding stereo channels. I found a solution: Try and insert 3 ms (that's 3 milliseconds) of silence in the beginning of the right channel and you will find that the full rich stereo sound comes to life again as it should be. The levels are also way to low so use a mild compressor setting and you will have it in great quality all around. //Sincerely yours, Comaman PS: I used Wave Lab for this editing (after converting the AC3 file to wav of course)... PS 2: Here's a sample snippet in 44 khz wav. link (use Cogent or Level 3 for DL...) |
928 10.07.2007 03:30 |
Right OK you lot of unbelievers.....i told you earlier that i was aware of this version & that it was bad.. but in a different way to the other versions "bad". .......now you find out. I get struck by lightening again...lol Some people think i say things for the hell of it. Right, OK heres the deal.I shall put my money where my mouth is then. The video on this,although transfered at SP mode,has not been crushed that heavily.Only the audio was. So,if someone sends me the lossless soundboard audio of the show i'll define the video & resync the audio for you all. Bob for 1 knows what i do for a living. You will all be more than happy with the outcome. Up to you Pow wow...whats your e-mail addy.I need to talk to you about the VHS and a few other points. |
pittrek 10.07.2007 03:39 |
One word - hotmail (.com) |
928 10.07.2007 03:47 |
pittrek wrote: One word - hotmail (.com)Sent e-mail Hope i chose the right word...lol Whoops...LOL.928 is not infallable. I mean to talk with Pow wow...(makes more sense as its his VHS) Sorry Pittrek |
onevsion 10.07.2007 04:36 |
928 wrote: Right OK you lot of unbelievers.....i told you earlier that i was aware of this version & that it was bad.. but in a different way to the other versions "bad". .......now you find out. I get struck by lightening again...lol Some people think i say things for the hell of it. Right, OK heres the deal.I shall put my money where my mouth is then. The video on this,although transfered at SP mode,has not been crushed that heavily.Only the audio was. So,if someone sends me the lossless soundboard audio of the show i'll define the video & resync the audio for you all. Bob for 1 knows what i do for a living. You will all be more than happy with the outcome. Up to you Pow wow...whats your e-mail addy.I need to talk to you about the VHS and a few other points.Hello! Sounds good to me. I have the lossless audio. Send me an e-mail at: mrducksoup@hotmail.com |
The Real Wizard 10.07.2007 11:34 |
comaman2 wrote: About the sound problem: I've checked it and there is a strange phasing error where both channels sound fine played one at a time but together they sort of phase out each other even though they still are great sounding stereo channels. I found a solution: Try and insert 3 ms (that's 3 milliseconds) of silence in the beginning of the right channel and you will find that the full rich stereo sound comes to life again as it should be.Good as that is, it's not true stereo. In fact, it's a technique that has been used since the 70s. For example, Brian used it on plenty of his songs, just so that his guitar would be panned left and right (but not in the centre) so it wouldn't get in the way of the vocal. The video feed from Houston show has always been mono. Even in the documentaries and on Rare Live it was mono sound. But thanks for your efforts! |
gaspar 10.07.2007 13:17 |
Hey folks! Two days, all alone at 100% seeding the files... Ok, I'll go ahead, on and on until I drop. |
dogwithabone 10.07.2007 14:35 |
gaspar wrote: Hey folks! Two days, all alone at 100% seeding the files... Ok, I'll go ahead, on and on until I drop.I'm seeding too and have been for a week now, although very slowly as I'm also seeding other torrents. |
frank39 10.07.2007 14:44 |
Barbara, ich sehe das jetzt erst!!! Vielen, vielen Dank |
pow wow 10.07.2007 18:10 |
928 wrote:powwow@queenzone.compittrek wrote: One word - hotmail (.com)Sent e-mail Hope i chose the right word...lol Whoops...LOL.928 is not infallable. I mean to talk with Pow wow...(makes more sense as its his VHS) Sorry Pittrek |
fanatic125 10.07.2007 18:20 |
Why does mine keep skipping? Is it supposed to do that? |
The Real Wizard 11.07.2007 00:30 |
If you haven't completed the download, then yes, it will skip. It downloads the video bit by bit in random patches. |
PBB 11.07.2007 03:39 |
dogwithabone wrote:Me too, for a week but that's the problem with torrents, you never know if you connect to someone.gaspar wrote: Hey folks! Two days, all alone at 100% seeding the files... Ok, I'll go ahead, on and on until I drop.I'm seeding too and have been for a week now, although very slowly as I'm also seeding other torrents. I'm downloading Copenhagen 78, at the moment but keep loosing my seeders, all 4 of them. At the moment I'm stuck. :-( |
rhapsody8 11.07.2007 04:53 |
Copenhagen 78.. Do you think share at here? Or where can I find it?? |
928 11.07.2007 05:33 |
e-mail sent pow wow The Audio is on the way to me folks....hope it's lossless. |
pittrek 11.07.2007 05:54 |
How fast are you ? I've done a couple of small enhancements and interesting changes to the video track, if you're interested, drop me a mail. |
crevecon 11.07.2007 16:59 |
I have just finished downloading the whole DVD and all I can say is thank you so much to YourValentine and the original sharer Pow wow for this great concert with a much better quality. Audio and sound. Thank you thank you... I will stay seeding for a week or so. |
snivlle 11.07.2007 19:07 |
Best quality to date! Thanx a million for sharing this rare find. |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 01:25 |
fanatic125 wrote: Why does mine keep skipping? Is it supposed to do that?Mine skipped early into "Killer Queen", but did so when the chapter changed. When I re-author it, and that chapter point is erased, I will see if it still skips. This was on a stand-alone DVD player, not the computer. |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 01:35 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Here, I've posted a "before" and an "after". Tell me if you hear the difference. All I did was extract the audio with ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper, run GoldWave, copy one channel on top of the other to make it mono, and then doubled the volume. To my ears, the difference is so huge. Before: link After: link Your thoughts?I don't have a player on my PC that will play flac,as I deleted my winamp. I have the NTSC version of this DVD, that has the horizontal lines, and the audio on that is great. Since this one is PAL, I don't think I can use the video of this and the audio of that, as the NTSC one would be longer than this one. So, I need to do what you suggest. Now: Do I need to rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter, and then demux it and keep the video? Then extract the audio with IMTOO...would the audio file be wav? Is that the same as PCM audio? And if so, wouldn't the size of the audio make the DVD too big for a DVD5? I think the DVD is 3.9 GB, and the AC3 audio is about 300 MBs, wav would be around 700 MBs? Then run Goldwave you said. I haven't installed it yet, but what would it do? Separate the audio to two tracks? Then copy one and paste it on top of the other? And then how do you double the volume? I got a chance to watch the NTSC version of this again, and Houston has to be one of the best if not best Queen concerts I have seen. Thanks again to the uploader. |
pittrek 12.07.2007 02:06 |
tgunn2760 wrote: I don't have a player on my PC that will play flac,as I deleted my winamp.Download VUPlayer or VLC (videolan.org). Both are free and play anything. I have the NTSC version of this DVD, that has the horizontal lines, and the audio on that is great. Since this one is PAL, I don't think I can use the video of this and the audio of that, as the NTSC one would be longer than this one.Yes, but you can re-encode your audio to match the video. In the case that you want to re-sync your NTSC-sourced audio to your PAL video, the easiest way how to do it is to use besweet (also free), use the -soundtouch parameter with (-r 25000 29970), then open the result in any audio editor and play with it :) Do I need to rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter, and then demux it and keep the video?No need to rip the DVD with DVDDecrypter, since it's not encrypted. Just run PGCDemux (also free), load the correct ifo (I think in this case it's VTS_01_1.IFO) and demux it, this method will save you disc space. Then extract the audio with IMTOO...would the audio file be wav? Is that the same as PCM audio? And if so, wouldn't the size of the audio make the DVD too big for a DVD5? I think the DVD is 3.9 GB, and the AC3 audio is about 300 MBs, wav would be around 700 MBs?All the programs I've used do an automatic lpcm->wav conversion, or at least you can set them to do so. Of course it will be too big for a DVD5, but you can 1)use a DVD9, 2) shrink it with DVDShrink or 3) split it into 2 DVD5 discs. Then run Goldwave you said. I haven't installed it yet, but what would it do? Separate the audio to two tracks? Then copy one and paste it on top of the other? And then how do you double the volume?I also didn't originally understand what Bob suggests, but he wants you to do a "mono downmix". I don't remember how it can be done in Goldwave, it's a couple of years since I've used it the last time, but CoolEditPro (or Adobe Audition) has a "mix paste" option. So first you copy the right chanel, paste it into an empty mono file, then copy the left chanel, and "mix paste" it into the mono file you've just created, then double the volume of the resulting file. |
fanatic125 12.07.2007 11:26 |
I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players. Is there a free program that will convert it to NTSC but won't leave a watermark? |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 11:43 |
Ducksoup wrote:Ducksoup, how big a file is the lossless audio? With the video, would it fit a DVD5?928 wrote: Right OK you lot of unbelievers.....i told you earlier that i was aware of this version & that it was bad.. but in a different way to the other versions "bad". .......now you find out. I get struck by lightening again...lol Some people think i say things for the hell of it. Right, OK heres the deal.I shall put my money where my mouth is then. The video on this,although transfered at SP mode,has not been crushed that heavily.Only the audio was. So,if someone sends me the lossless soundboard audio of the show i'll define the video & resync the audio for you all. Bob for 1 knows what i do for a living. You will all be more than happy with the outcome. Up to you Pow wow...whats your e-mail addy.I need to talk to you about the VHS and a few other points.Hello! Sounds good to me. I have the lossless audio. Send me an e-mail at: mrducksoup@hotmail.com If yes, can you upload the audio to rapidshare? |
stormrider79 12.07.2007 12:37 |
thanks! Been looking for this forever! |
The Real Wizard 12.07.2007 14:31 |
tgunn2760 wrote: I don't have a player on my PC that will play flac,as I deleted my winamp.Perhaps you could download FLAC Frontend, as that program can decode from FLAC to WAV. Then run Goldwave you said. I haven't installed it yet, but what would it do? Separate the audio to two tracks? Then copy one and paste it on top of the other?Basically, yeah... but you don't have to separate the tracks. Just copy the left channel, and replace the right with it. But first, be sure you've selected the GoldWave clipboard in the options, as it's a pretty big file. I'm still using version 4.26, so hopefully the new one works the same way, if that's what you're using. And then how do you double the volume?Click on effects/volume/change, and make it 200%. That's it! |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 15:14 |
fanatic125 wrote: I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players. Is there a free program that will convert it to NTSC but won't leave a watermark?There isn't a program that will do a simple conversion, it's a long process and the end result-as I know it-will be LOSSY. Since this DVD has no menu and wrong chapters, you can convert to NTSC and get decent results if you: Rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter Encode the VOB with TMPGEnc-PAL to PAL, program file, select MPG2 audio, one pass Then convert to NTSC with Canopus: 23.97 FPS with inverse pulldown, program file-audio and video together, MPG2 audio-I always use 320 kbps, high speed encoding Last encoding: TMPGEnc again, NTSC to NTSC, program again, but this time select AC3 audio-it will be lossy as hell but will be good to view and hear... Then author with DVD authoring program. |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 15:21 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:If I rip the DVD to VOB and demux it, it would give me an AC3 audio file which I cannot decompress. Would Goldwave decompress it?tgunn2760 wrote: I don't have a player on my PC that will play flac,as I deleted my winamp.Perhaps you could download FLAC Frontend, as that program can decode from FLAC to WAV.Then run Goldwave you said. I haven't installed it yet, but what would it do? Separate the audio to two tracks? Then copy one and paste it on top of the other?Basically, yeah... but you don't have to separate the tracks. Just copy the left channel, and replace the right with it. But first, be sure you've selected the GoldWave clipboard in the options, as it's a pretty big file. I'm still using version 4.26, so hopefully the new one works the same way, if that's what you're using.And then how do you double the volume?Click on effects/volume/change, and make it 200%. That's it! If not, I may be able to extract the source audio-wav-with Virtualdub...how big a file is the lossless audio in MBs? If it's too big for a DVD5 I'm right back to square one, I would have to compress the lossless audio to AC3 again. |
hernanzani 12.07.2007 20:06 |
I´m still downloading it, but it´s amazing the quality!!!! Thanks |
fanatic125 12.07.2007 20:18 |
tgunn2760 wrote:I'm going to be honest. I have no idea what you just said.fanatic125 wrote: I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players. Is there a free program that will convert it to NTSC but won't leave a watermark?There isn't a program that will do a simple conversion, it's a long process and the end result-as I know it-will be LOSSY. Since this DVD has no menu and wrong chapters, you can convert to NTSC and get decent results if you: Rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter Encode the VOB with TMPGEnc-PAL to PAL, program file, select MPG2 audio, one pass Then convert to NTSC with Canopus: 23.97 FPS with inverse pulldown, program file-audio and video together, MPG2 audio-I always use 320 kbps, high speed encoding Last encoding: TMPGEnc again, NTSC to NTSC, program again, but this time select AC3 audio-it will be lossy as hell but will be good to view and hear... Then author with DVD authoring program. |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 20:38 |
fanatic125 wrote:Burn the DVD as is, in PAL format, and save it in case you can trade someone for it, or later get a player that will play both formats.tgunn2760 wrote:I'm going to be honest. I have no idea what you just said.fanatic125 wrote: I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players. Is there a free program that will convert it to NTSC but won't leave a watermark?There isn't a program that will do a simple conversion, it's a long process and the end result-as I know it-will be LOSSY. Since this DVD has no menu and wrong chapters, you can convert to NTSC and get decent results if you: Rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter Encode the VOB with TMPGEnc-PAL to PAL, program file, select MPG2 audio, one pass Then convert to NTSC with Canopus: 23.97 FPS with inverse pulldown, program file-audio and video together, MPG2 audio-I always use 320 kbps, high speed encoding Last encoding: TMPGEnc again, NTSC to NTSC, program again, but this time select AC3 audio-it will be lossy as hell but will be good to view and hear... Then author with DVD authoring program. As for the conversion, I told you it's long, and complicated. BAsically what you do is change the framerate from 25 FPS-PAL- to 29.97 FPS NTSC. TMPGEnc is a good encoder, but will NOT do do framerate conversions. Canopus does framerate conversions, but sucks as an encoder. So you have to use both, and encode the file three times if you want good results. I just used that method on a movie, "Outlaw", and it came out great. Almost as good as a retail DVD. |
tgunn2760 12.07.2007 20:54 |
pittrek wrote:Thanks for taking the time to reply.tgunn2760 wrote: I don't have a player on my PC that will play flac,as I deleted my winamp.Download VUPlayer or VLC (videolan.org). Both are free and play anything.I have the NTSC version of this DVD, that has the horizontal lines, and the audio on that is great. Since this one is PAL, I don't think I can use the video of this and the audio of that, as the NTSC one would be longer than this one.Yes, but you can re-encode your audio to match the video. In the case that you want to re-sync your NTSC-sourced audio to your PAL video, the easiest way how to do it is to use besweet (also free), use the -soundtouch parameter with (-r 25000 29970), then open the result in any audio editor and play with it :)Do I need to rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter, and then demux it and keep the video?No need to rip the DVD with DVDDecrypter, since it's not encrypted. Just run PGCDemux (also free), load the correct ifo (I think in this case it's VTS_01_1.IFO) and demux it, this method will save you disc space.Then extract the audio with IMTOO...would the audio file be wav? Is that the same as PCM audio? And if so, wouldn't the size of the audio make the DVD too big for a DVD5? I think the DVD is 3.9 GB, and the AC3 audio is about 300 MBs, wav would be around 700 MBs?All the programs I've used do an automatic lpcm->wav conversion, or at least you can set them to do so. Of course it will be too big for a DVD5, but you can 1)use a DVD9, 2) shrink it with DVDShrink or 3) split it into 2 DVD5 discs.Then run Goldwave you said. I haven't installed it yet, but what would it do? Separate the audio to two tracks? Then copy one and paste it on top of the other? And then how do you double the volume?I also didn't originally understand what Bob suggests, but he wants you to do a "mono downmix". I don't remember how it can be done in Goldwave, it's a couple of years since I've used it the last time, but CoolEditPro (or Adobe Audition) has a "mix paste" option. So first you copy the right chanel, paste it into an empty mono file, then copy the left chanel, and "mix paste" it into the mono file you've just created, then double the volume of the resulting file. I don't have the tools you recommend here, I use Decrypter to rip the DVD to a single VOB file which I can then demux with Womble. The problem is the audio file is AC3 and I can't decompress it, unless I can extract the source audio with Virtualdub. If then the file is too big for a DVD5, I might can encode the VOB in TMPGEnc, select elementary streams and AC3 audio @320, and author that with the untouched video I demuxed. |
Padilla 12.07.2007 22:18 |
Well I glad many of you know so much of this. Can those of you that know what your talking about say a prayer for the stupid ones *raises hand* for dont have a clue what your talking about with all the conversions. Thanks!! |
Raf 12.07.2007 22:20 |
@ fanatic125: before trying to do all those conversions, at least TRY to watch it. The standard here in Brazil is PAL-M, but almost everything is also compatible with NTSC, so on the Internet I always look for NTSC DVDs. But I recently downloaded a Franz Ferdinand DVD from Dimeadozen.org, and when the download was nearly done, I read the original post again and noticed it was PAL (not PAL-M, just plain PAL). I thought I had wasted all the time I spent downloading, because the colours would be fucked up or something... But when I tried, everything worked perfectly. So I went back to Dime and downloaded another PAL DVD that I had avoided simply because it was PAL. |
Jericho06 12.07.2007 22:47 |
Thank you for the excellent share. I have been hoping for an upgrade to this awesome show! |
Richy Mercury 13.07.2007 00:11 |
fanatic125 wrote: I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players. Is there a free program that will convert it to NTSC but won't leave a watermark?SIMPLE:> BUY A PHILLIPS DVP-642 OR A SIMILAR MODEL. IT WILL CONVERT PAL TO NTSC ON THE FLY! I'VE DONE THIS AND I NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING PAL DVDS IN TRADE OR DOWNLOADING PAL DVDS! And the great thing is that you don't have to have a PAL television set. Also, you get to keep the original resolution. Here it is. link I paid $65 for mine. Here it is for $28. Here it is new for $50 new. link This will even play jpeg, svcd, vcd, divx, mpeg, etc...read on Technical Details Plays DVD-Video, video CD, audio CD, JPEG image CD, and CDs loaded with MP3, MPEG-4, or DivX 3.11/4.x/5.x files Progressive-scan output for seamless, flicker-free images on HD-ready TVs; SmartPicture and 4x video upsampling enhance all outputs Optical and coaxial digital-audio terminals pass Dolby Digital and DTS surround signals PAL-to-NTSC format conversion--great for viewing non-region-encoded European discs Measures 17.1 x 1.7 x 9.3 inches (W x H x D) › See more technical details FROM AMAZON: 196 of 202 people found the following review helpful: How To Make It "Region Free"..., November 25, 2005 By Vladimir Ratner "vratner" (Upstate NY) - See all my reviews This review is for Philips DVP642 DVD Player. It is the same as DVP642/37 DVD Player. It is also the same as DVP642/37 Code Free DVD Player, or Region Free, or whatever else you want to call it. Philips has ONLY ONE DVP642 model, but it may come with different firmware versions, depending on when and where the player was purchased. It doesn't matter though. I repeat, it is the SAME player. So there is absolutely no need to pay extra dollars for something you can easily do yourself. This review highlights some of the features of this DVD player, as well as provides instructions on how to make it Region Free (pay special attention to Format Support section). So, read on... Let me just start by saying that if this DVD player was anything over $100, even $80, then I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. But it's definitely worth $50 that I spent on it. I bought it on sale at CompUSA. I believe Walmart is the cheapest place now, where you can buy it for just under $60. But back to this player. After using it for over 2 months, and having it compare to my other three DVD players (Sampo, Cyberhome, and Oppo), I have come up with a short list of Pros and Cons. So, without further ado, I give you Philips DVP642: PROS: Format Support - This alone probably worth all the "stars". It supports virtually all formats, including Divx. And it DOES support DVD-R's as well, although it's not documented anywhere. MP3's, Picture JPEG's, original DVD's, burned DVD's with AVI's, MPEG's, etc. - I have tried it all, and it handled everything without any problems. Add the NTSC/PAL conversion capabilities to that (simple "7 8 9 OK 0" remote control hack with an open tray will make it "region free"), and you've got yourself one hell of a DVD player. "You have it, we play it" is the slogan of this player, and it is, indeed, true. Design - I like the nice and sleek design of this DVD player. It's thin, and the nice matte silver color nicely compliments my Sony Wega TV that I connected it to. Price - Just as I mentioned before, I bought this player for $50. I think it's well worth it, especially if you have a lot of "homemade" DVD's. |
The Real Wizard 13.07.2007 00:34 |
tgunn2760 wrote: If I rip the DVD to VOB and demux it, it would give me an AC3 audio file which I cannot decompress. Would Goldwave decompress it?Oh no no no... use ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper, and it will go straight to WAV. |
YourValentine 13.07.2007 03:28 |
"Oh no no no... use ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper, and it will go straight to WAV." I don't believe I just saw Sir GH recommend to convert a lossy audio file to WAV!! Ts ts ts ... :) To everyone who has problems with watching a DVD - there is a a very simple help: Download Videolan, a small free video player. Right click on your VOB file and choose "play with VideoLan" and you can watch your DVD VOB files with this player, no matter what the format is. |
freddie lives 28817 13.07.2007 05:13 |
fanatic125 wrote: I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players.This is something I've always wondered. Do they not make many DVD players in the USA that play PAL DVDs? That's incredible. Every DVD player in the UK can play NTSC - you just need a compatible TV set, most of which made after 1990 will take the signal with no problem. |
freddie lives 28817 13.07.2007 05:19 |
tgunn2760 wrote: I have the NTSC version of this DVD, that has the horizontal lines, and the audio on that is great.Wow! The reason the original version of Houston had lines is because it was copied from NTSC to PAL using 2 video recorders that were capable of out-putting a PAL60 coversion from NTSC, so what happened is that the player output a semi-PAL conversion (60 fields per second instead of 50 fields per second which is a true PAL signal) and the recorder was therefore able to record the picture, but with the lines. Had that semi-conversion been copied to PAL again using the same process, the number of lines would have doubled. It seems weird that Houston has gone from NTSC to PAL and then back to NTSC again! |
tassilo 13.07.2007 05:33 |
Thanks a lot for this one! |
Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 13.07.2007 07:13 |
Thanks a million!!!!!! This Houston video - that's a dream... What a quality...! I love you, Pow wow! You're a man. |
fanatic125 13.07.2007 12:15 |
tgunn2760 wrote:Thanks. That clears it up. As soon as it finishes downloading, I'll try that method, but since no one is seeding, its been stuck at 63.7% for the past 2 days.fanatic125 wrote:Burn the DVD as is, in PAL format, and save it in case you can trade someone for it, or later get a player that will play both formats. As for the conversion, I told you it's long, and complicated. BAsically what you do is change the framerate from 25 FPS-PAL- to 29.97 FPS NTSC. TMPGEnc is a good encoder, but will NOT do do framerate conversions. Canopus does framerate conversions, but sucks as an encoder. So you have to use both, and encode the file three times if you want good results. I just used that method on a movie, "Outlaw", and it came out great. Almost as good as a retail DVD.tgunn2760 wrote:I'm going to be honest. I have no idea what you just said.fanatic125 wrote: I didn't notice this was PAL so it won't work on my DVD players. Is there a free program that will convert it to NTSC but won't leave a watermark?There isn't a program that will do a simple conversion, it's a long process and the end result-as I know it-will be LOSSY. Since this DVD has no menu and wrong chapters, you can convert to NTSC and get decent results if you: Rip the DVD to a single VOB file with Decrypter Encode the VOB with TMPGEnc-PAL to PAL, program file, select MPG2 audio, one pass Then convert to NTSC with Canopus: 23.97 FPS with inverse pulldown, program file-audio and video together, MPG2 audio-I always use 320 kbps, high speed encoding Last encoding: TMPGEnc again, NTSC to NTSC, program again, but this time select AC3 audio-it will be lossy as hell but will be good to view and hear... Then author with DVD authoring program. |
fanatic125 13.07.2007 12:39 |
I downloaded a program called MediaCoder to convert it. Is that any good? |
YourValentine 13.07.2007 13:15 |
"but since no one is seeding, its been stuck at 63.7% for the past 2 days." There have been seeders non-stop, something must be wrong with your connection or client. |
frank39 13.07.2007 13:37 |
Picture quality is great, now doubt. But the sound... I only dare to look at it with the old QDA audio overdubbed. And if you switch between these 2 audio sources, while watching this phantastic new footage, you come to the conclusion, that this new Houston has a horrible sound, in Germany we call it "Scheiße". Sorry Barbara -:))Die Bilder sind einmalig. |
pittrek 13.07.2007 13:59 |
Hei mann, versuch mal das alte audio mit dem neuen video zu synchronisieren anstatt zu kritisieren :) DAS ist eine sheiss-Arbeit :) Hoffentlich ist mein Deutsch verstendbar, ich habe manche Jahre nicht Deutsch gesprochen. |
frank39 13.07.2007 14:21 |
I almost sat the whole night to mux the NTSC QDA audio with the new video stream , which is PAL. No chance for me, I only managed to do so with the first VOB. Some people here seem to know how to handle it. I myself don´t. What I intended to say, was: A very good audio can raise a poor video, but not vice versa: a bad audio destroys the best video. |
pittrek 13.07.2007 14:32 |
I've spent almost 2 weeks trying to sync it, without a result. |
luise 14.07.2007 01:09 |
so..is this out of sync??! |
The Real Wizard 14.07.2007 02:06 |
YourValentine wrote:Hahaha! I *knew* someone would pick up on that!"Oh no no no... use ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper, and it will go straight to WAV."I don't believe I just saw Sir GH recommend to convert a lossy audio file to WAV!! Ts ts ts ... :) Sure, the mono "remix" will still be lossy, but it will be better. :) |
frank39 14.07.2007 03:57 |
don´t let 928 read this....-:) |
928 14.07.2007 04:51 |
My My My....lol It is good actually frank...reading this. It lets me know where abouts you all are on the "video work front". Not far is it hehehe Some seem to know the direction they want to go but are faffing about. Other dont 'arf make hard work for themselves Others....well......lol Bob,although the audio was lossy.It was compressed directly from the master transfer so you are ok uncompressing the AC3 to wav for editing etc(there is no conversion only uncompression)..but it must stay wav/pcm after that or you are lossying that particular master. Keeping it wav/pcm will still mean that it is lossless from the master copy Why anyone is wasting time on this though after i have said i would be doing it with the soundboard lossless audio is beyond me. But it sure is a fun read. All i have to decide is whether or not to go 2 discs way or a Dual Layer. |
pittrek 14.07.2007 06:30 |
luise wrote: so..is this out of sync??!Oh, no ! This one is perfectly synchronised, don't be afraid. I was trying to synchronise a better lossless audio with this new video. |
freddie lives 28817 14.07.2007 06:35 |
928 wrote: All i have to decide is whether or not to go 2 discs way or a Dual Layer.Are you doing this to accomodate an uncompressed sound file or have you decided to re-encode the video from the source material to higher bitrate? If you go down the route of a DL disc purely for the audio and NOT an increase in video bitrate, how about making the improved audio available to us seperately so that those of us who know what we're doing can just sync your original video file with the new sound? Thanks |
928 14.07.2007 07:10 |
freddie lives wrote:That would mean that i would be giving you permission to lossy a lossless audio track.928 wrote: All i have to decide is whether or not to go 2 discs way or a Dual Layer.Are you doing this to accomodate an uncompressed sound file or have you decided to re-encode the video from the source material to higher bitrate? If you go down the route of a DL disc purely for the audio and NOT an increase in video bitrate, how about making the improved audio available to us seperately so that those of us who know what we're doing can just sync your original video file with the new sound? Thanks Yeah.right.thats gonna happen. (This person doesn't get the point does he folks) |
Bobby_brown 14.07.2007 08:38 |
928 wrote: All i have to decide is whether or not to go 2 discs way or a Dual Layer.For sharing purposes i think it would be better to make it a 2 DVD instead of dual layer. Many of us still don´t have that kind of DVD recorder. But do it the way it suits you more! I have plenty of room in my hard drive ; )) Take care |
frank39 14.07.2007 14:36 |
Dual Layer, no 2 discs please, its not good to change the disc right before Bohemian Rhapsody, or any other track |
PBB 16.07.2007 14:11 |
Dual layer please. Besides it can't be that difficult to split it into two parts if you aren't able to burn dual layer, at least not with Nero. :-) |
tgunn2760 16.07.2007 15:56 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Here, I've posted a "before" and an "after". Tell me if you hear the difference. All I did was extract the audio with ImTOO DVD Audio Ripper, run GoldWave, copy one channel on top of the other to make it mono, and then doubled the volume. To my ears, the difference is so huge. Before: link After: link Your thoughts?I just played both clips with VLC, there is no comparison, the "after" is much much better. I'm currently having issues with Decrypter, I can't rip the DVD to a single VOB file in order to demux the audio and video. I did rip the wav file with IMTOO, it's 1.2 GB and it just might fit a DVD5. |
The Real Wizard 17.07.2007 19:37 |
Well, I'm no video expert at all... so, good luck with that.. :) |
freddie lives 28817 18.07.2007 05:14 |
928 wrote:Mate, you missed MY point.freddie lives wrote:That would mean that i would be giving you permission to lossy a lossless audio track. Yeah.right.thats gonna happen. (This person doesn't get the point does he folks)928 wrote: All i have to decide is whether or not to go 2 discs way or a Dual Layer.Are you doing this to accomodate an uncompressed sound file or have you decided to re-encode the video from the source material to higher bitrate? If you go down the route of a DL disc purely for the audio and NOT an increase in video bitrate, how about making the improved audio available to us seperately so that those of us who know what we're doing can just sync your original video file with the new sound? Thanks I'm all for a PCM lossless sound - but unless you own the original tape which was shared here by YV and you intend to make use of 2 discs or a DL disc by improving the bitrate of the picture AS WELL as the sound, you'll be asking everyone to spend another 2 weeks downloading the same picture quality AGAIN just to get a better sound. My suggestion/request for you to upload the audio seperately is so that(and I quote from my own reply) "for those of us who know what we're doing", can re-author the concert ourselves. I had no intention of converting the sound to an AC3 - I DO have facilities to both create Dual Layer discs and split a video track if need be without re-encoding. You don't need to do that particular job for me (and I suspect a few others). |
freddie lives 28817 18.07.2007 05:18 |
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freddie lives 28817 18.07.2007 05:20 |
I just played both clips with VLC, there is no comparison, the "after" is much much better. I'm currently having issues with Decrypter, I can't rip the DVD to a single VOB file in order to demux the audio and video. I did rip the wav file with IMTOO, it's 1.2 GB and it just might fit a DVD5.Mate, DVD Decrypter will demux a DVD for you without having to convert the disc to a single vob file. Do you have a really old version that doesn't have an IFO rip option? |
sekywa 20.07.2007 13:01 |
mamma mia e' FANTASTICO, wonderful! Thanks to pow wow and Yv |
928 20.07.2007 13:43 |
Sorry its slow...MrDucksoup who is sending me the audio has not been well,so the lossless audio will not be posted to me until tommorrow. |
tgunn2760 22.07.2007 00:53 |
freddie lives wrote:My version is 3.5.4.0I just played both clips with VLC, there is no comparison, the "after" is much much better. I'm currently having issues with Decrypter, I can't rip the DVD to a single VOB file in order to demux the audio and video. I did rip the wav file with IMTOO, it's 1.2 GB and it just might fit a DVD5.Mate, DVD Decrypter will demux a DVD for you without having to convert the disc to a single vob file. Do you have a really old version that doesn't have an IFO rip option? It's OK, I can import the DVD files to Tsunami DVD author, and then import the LPCM audio. The problem I'm having now, is that I can't do what Bob suggested with Goldwave...LOL...how do I copy one channel and copy it to the other? By rightclicking, or by clicking on "edit"? Would it too much trouble to write all the steps please Bob? |
tgunn2760 24.07.2007 11:05 |
928 wrote: Sorry its slow...MrDucksoup who is sending me the audio has not been well,so the lossless audio will not be posted to me until tommorrow.Will you up the lossless audio here, once you get it? I did what Bob suggested with Goldwave, it worked great, and, more importantly, the audio file is half the size of the original file since it is mono. Assuming I did things right. Bob, if you see this, can you confirm please? The original LPCM audio was 1.12 GBs and 1411 kbps, the mono is 573 MBs and 705 kbps, so it should fit nicely on a DVD5. I also doubled the volume so it sounds great. Thanks to both of you in advance. |
The Real Wizard 24.07.2007 15:31 |
Happy to help! |
tgunn2760 24.07.2007 16:16 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Happy to help!Did I do it right, though, or did I simply cut out half the audio? |
The Real Wizard 25.07.2007 01:21 |
Yeah, that's definitely alright! It's essentially the same thing to remove one channel. I just copied one channel over the other, so it was two identical channels. Some DVD software doesn't support mono WAV files, so that's why I suggested the latter way. |
tgunn2760 25.07.2007 13:45 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Yeah, that's definitely alright! It's essentially the same thing to remove one channel. I just copied one channel over the other, so it was two identical channels. Some DVD software doesn't support mono WAV files, so that's why I suggested the latter way.It sounds fine on the PC, I will have to test it to see if the audio works on a standalone DVD player. So erasing one channel is the same as pasting the left over the right? There is no loss of audio at all? |
The Real Wizard 25.07.2007 17:29 |
Exactly. You heard the samples! The second one is perfect. What we have on the DVD is mono sound, but somehow the two channels don't work well together. The original video feed is mono... just watch any documentary with Houston footage to confirm. |
tgunn2760 25.07.2007 22:55 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Exactly. You heard the samples! The second one is perfect. What we have on the DVD is mono sound, but somehow the two channels don't work well together. The original video feed is mono... just watch any documentary with Houston footage to confirm.Great, thanks for your help. I can use the new audio and author a DVD with motion menu since the audio track is half the size now. But I will wait for the lossless audio, and reduce that to mono, in case I decide to share it later on. TTD is picky, if they found that I had decompressed the AC3 audio to LPCM I think they would pull the torrent. |
The Real Wizard 26.07.2007 00:17 |
Then just don't tell them.. :) Honestly... I am all for quality standards as you know, but when it's arguably the greatest non-official (or perhaps even official) Queen live video out there, maybe these things just shouldn't matter. |
Leaky Luke 26.07.2007 06:53 |
eh hello. First of all thank you very much for sharing this. My 2nd request is seeding by some people.. I've just got home after 3 months so I would like to download it now. |
tjbarrett96 14.08.2007 17:16 |
Seed please |
gnomo 16.08.2007 13:37 |
I think this is the one I am currently downloading/seeding at 92%. Terminal open for the next 24 hours I hope. Thanks to all in the swarm! |
tjbarrett96 16.08.2007 23:22 |
<font size="1">Ðon Gerolamo</font> wrote: Thanks PowWow and Barb, download's going great (500kb/s)! Will seed for a long time. Great post!Hey, I'm pretty new to BitTorrent, and I was wondering if you could tell me some advice and BitTorrent speeds...500 kb/s is pretty remarkable by my standards. What's the best client to use on Queenzone? What'd you do to get that speed?Kern wrote: Hi and thanks a lot, before I'll start this, one question. Is this better than the Digital Queen Archives Version shared on Queenhouse.de last year?This is like... 20 times better! A must download for all QZ memebers imho. please please please...lol |
Bobby_brown 17.08.2007 14:14 |
Leaky Luke wrote: eh hello. First of all thank you very much for sharing this. My 2nd request is seeding by some people.. I've just got home after 3 months so I would like to download it now.Try this link: link it´s the same source but the audio is way better. Take care |
gnomo 22.08.2007 04:01 |
... share rate over 2.7, but I'll have to quit in a couple of hours: my apologies to the lone peer still downloading from me and my thanks to everyone... |
flashalive 08.09.2007 04:49 |
Hello, I would be grateful for any seeders that can help out...i have just started downloading- i know i''m late but any help would be swell. thanks |
The Real Wizard 12.09.2007 02:15 |
This is definitely a better alternative, with the fixed audio: link |
deltazulu 25.10.2007 12:28 |
thx to whoever just started seeding... i've been stuck at 2% for days!! if anyone else can jump on and help out... i'd really appreciate it! |
macman223 04.01.2008 12:38 |
CAN ANYBODY SEED PLEASE? I've Been Stuck At 60.0% for Days Thanks, I Really appreciate it. |
macman223 05.01.2008 19:32 |
Thanks to the person who just seeded. Can You keep Seeding all night? I'm At 61.0% Thanks So Much! |
macman223 05.01.2008 19:33 |
I will share this and seed it for A long time after download it. Thanks Again |
Mr Mercury 06.01.2008 08:15 |
Any chance of some seeders please? I'm stuck at 20.3% Thanks in advance. |
macman223 06.01.2008 12:57 |
THanks for seeding! Please keep seeding! |
macman223 06.01.2008 14:21 |
Yes, I'm at 75%! Keep Seeding Please! Thank You! |
macman223 06.01.2008 14:46 |
This is GREAT!!! Once this is done I'll Be seeding for a LONG Time (I know I already said this, but I'm so excited) If I haven't already, Thank You So Much YourValentine and Pow Wow for sharing this!!! And Thanks again YourValentime for The SUPERB Knebworth Concert. (I know, wrong Post) but I have that one as Well. I'll Have To Get Colgone 2005 Later. Anyway, Thanks, A Trillion For this!!! |
macman223 06.01.2008 14:51 |
Please Keep Seeding, I'm Stuck At 76% Thanks! |
macman223 06.01.2008 14:52 |
Oh, One question, does this have chapters? |
macman223 06.01.2008 14:58 |
Sorry I've been posting a lot in one day. |
macman223 06.01.2008 20:03 |
Keep Seeding 82% |
macman223 06.01.2008 20:13 |
Can you Seed Al Night Please? I'm at 84% Thanks. |
macman223 06.01.2008 21:11 |
sorry I've been posting a lot in one day but thanks for seeding. You have no idea how much I want this |
macman223 07.01.2008 07:12 |
Please seed |
macman223 07.01.2008 07:17 |
Thank You A Trillion to everybody who has seeded. |
macman223 07.01.2008 17:24 |
More seeders please |
macman223 07.01.2008 18:37 |
Keep Seeding |
macman223 07.01.2008 18:58 |
More seeders please 97.5$ |
macman223 07.01.2008 19:43 |
What Happens When You Preview The Video_TS Files while it's downloading? |
bigV 07.01.2008 20:07 |
macman223 wrote: What Happens When You Preview The Video_TS Files while it's downloading?You get an error by your torrent software, but if you stop the download and restart it should be okay. V. |
macman223 07.01.2008 20:15 |
bigV wrote:I Know But I have a Mac and I'm using Azurus And If I stop the download, when I restart It It checks The Files and it starts Where I Left Off. I played The VIDEO_TS File In DvD Player Will The download continue if I don't play it until It's complete?macman223 wrote: What Happens When You Preview The Video_TS Files while it's downloading?You get an error by your torrent software, but if you stop the download and restart it should be okay. V. |
Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 08.01.2008 07:07 |
Is it dead or still alive torrent? Does it have a sence to start download it? |
HeyUBoy 10.01.2008 14:24 |
Hi, I finally have the ability to download.Halleluia!!Finally the Holy Grail of Queen Video Concerts is within my grasp and.....and.....nothin' Requesting Seeders Please.I would be extremely thankful.I've been waiting for years for this baby. |
HeyUBoy 10.01.2008 14:24 |
Hi, I finally have the ability to download.Halleluia!!Finally the Holy Grail of Queen Video Concerts is within my grasp and.....and.....nothin' Requesting Seeders Please.I would be extremely thankful.I've been waiting for years for this baby. |
Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 10.01.2008 15:24 |
Try this one, it has better sound: link I'm downloading it now and seeding what I've download but I'm at 13,5%, the speed is very slow. |
Mr Mercury 10.01.2008 17:00 |
Help!! Im stuck at 98.4% Any chance of someone seeding this please? Thanks in advance |
Queenrocks1991 11.01.2008 11:40 |
blocked at 99% !! please seed !! |
HeyUBoy 18.01.2008 11:39 |
SEEDERS NEEDED>SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS I"M EXPERIENCING SOMETHING STRANGE WITH MY KEYBOARD AFTER HOLDING DOWN THE SHIFT KEY>IRECEIVED AN ERROR MESSAGE>SOMETHING ABOUT A KEY BECOMING A FILTER AFTER EIGHT SECONDS>I"LL FIGURE IT OUT>THANKYOU AND SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS |
Cygnus X-1 18.01.2008 11:58 |
lol? |
Marknow 03.04.2008 14:56 |
Im seeding for 6 at the moment here, can anyone jump in to seed too? Thanks |
ale4ey 08.04.2008 04:07 |
Please,can anyone seed this video?I'm at 63.4%!!! I've been searching for this video for years! |
ale4ey 15.04.2008 14:17 |
Any chance of someone seeding this please? Thx! |
pittrek 15.04.2008 14:19 |
Some time ago I have uploaded this video to mediafire, if you prefer that downloading method |
Farrokh The Great 16.04.2008 01:22 |
Hi pittrek, can You put the links please? Thank You very much in advance Greetings |
pittrek 16.04.2008 01:45 |
Farrokh the great wrote: Hi pittrek, can You put the links please? Thank You very much in advance GreetingsThis is the thread : link I cannot however guarantee that the links are still working since it's mediafire :-( |
ale4ey 16.04.2008 13:45 |
Thank for the link...but unfortunately it don't work!Can you or anybody else seed?I'm at 64.8%... |
Farrokh The Great 16.04.2008 14:30 |
It works! Ive downloaded two files. Thanks a lot pittrek |
pompon67 18.04.2008 13:03 |
I have 0 seeds. Why ? |
ale4ey 30.04.2008 08:25 |
I downloaded the video from the link you wrote (first time I've had problems).Thank you pittrek |
Raffy 07.09.2008 20:16 |
Please more seeders... thanks! |
Queen729 07.09.2008 20:47 |
Thanks very much for this show. Great upload. Thanks also to the seeders who have stuck around to help. |
fatoldsun 08.09.2008 07:00 |
i'm getting a grand total of 2kbs lol... PLEASE SEED!!!!!! |
macman223 24.10.2008 23:51 |
Could anybody please help me download this?I need all The Help I Can Get!And The Video and Audio quality is amazing! |
marvinp01 28.12.2008 19:09 |
how do you make it have accurately placed chapters??? what software should i use?? ITS GETTING ON MY NERVES!!!!!!!!!! |
Ale Solan 28.12.2008 19:23 |
marvinp01 wrote: how do you make it have accurately placed chapters??? what software should i use?? ITS GETTING ON MY NERVES!!!!!!!!!! Manually? like I do? using TMPEG DVD Author, in my case. |
MichaelMaster 06.01.2009 18:28 |
DVD Queen - Live In Houston (1977) 1. We Will Rock You - Slow 2. We Will Rock You - Fast 3. Brighton Rock 4. Somebody To Love 5. Death On Two Legs 6. Killer Queen 7. Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy 8. I'm In Love With My Car 9. Get Down Make Love 10. The Millionaire Waltz 11. You're My Best Friend 12. Liar 13. Love Of My Life 14. '39 15. My Melancholy Blues 16. White Man 17. The Prophet's Song 18. Guitar Solo 19. Now I'm Here 20. Stone Cold Crazy 21. Bohemian Rhapsody 22. Keep Yourself Alive 23. Tie Your Mother Down 24. We Will Rock You 25. We Are The Champions 26. Sheer Heart Attack 27. Jailhouse Rock 28. God Save The Queen link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link pass:forever |
MichaelMaster 06.01.2009 18:33 |
DVD Queen Cover Live In Housten 1977 |
deleted user 07.01.2009 12:31 |
I hate to say this, but it's 'Houston' |
Mr. Bulsara 09.03.2010 12:16 |
Any seeders here ? Thanks |
Gregsynth 09.03.2010 17:26 |
Please seed! |
Mr. Bulsara 13.03.2010 18:27 |
Can someone seed this ? I'm stuck at 83.3%. Thanks in advance |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy 07.01.2011 03:37 |
question to the experts: Will there someday version of this concert without glitches between songs? |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy 10.01.2011 14:31 |
does anybody answers on mu Question? |
Hangman_96 10.01.2011 14:49 |
Maybe, we live in hope. |
mkjnovak 13.02.2011 07:03 |
Hi, Can someone please seed? Several of us have been stuck at 89% for days. Thanks |
mkjnovak 13.02.2011 17:28 |
Thank you! |
Yawara 07.01.2012 02:17 |
MichaelMaster, the links you posted are the Snow Producciones version.....What has it to do with this download? Many thanks YourValentine for this |
Yawara 07.01.2012 02:58 |
Thanks YourValentine for this Is this the best avalaible Houston 77 dvd version?? I've found here a number of different, but not clear to me what is the best ...04 Mar 09 Kniggit version??...this 02 Jul 07 YourValentine version??.....20 Dec 09 seba_979??...20 Nov 07 Pittrek??...07 Aug 07 tgunn2760??? Many thanks in adavance |
QueenIsAwesome-Fan 22.02.2012 00:39 |
Thanks for posting this version of this concert. |