Mr.Jingles 30.06.2007 11:58 |
Yes, and I feel like it's about time someone had to say it. Of course, we all love Freddie and he's undeniably one of the reasons why we waste our time on this board. However, I'm sick to the fuckin' stomach of people who constantly deny the influence that Brian, Roger, and John had on Queen as if Freddie was the one and only who did everything. To make matters even worse, I nearly puke my guts whenever someone makes those tiresome old comments about how jealous is Brian of all the praise and love Freddie gets from the music press and other musicians. Guys, do I need to remind you that Brian has given more praise to Freddie than Roger and John, so why are you guys picking on Brian? Too bad for you if he doesn't mention Freddie on every single Soapbox entry. I'm also sick of those who do nothing but whine about how much they miss Freddie, and yes I do agree that there's not one single day where we didn't wish he was still around... BUT PLEASE!! The guy has been dead for almost 17 years, don't you think it's time to let it go and move along??!! Once again, let me remind you that this thread is nothing against Freddie. He's one of the greatest rock idols and music legends to walk the earth, but will you please shut up for once and look at the big picture and realize that there was more to Queen than just Freddie. |
.DeaconJohn. 30.06.2007 12:08 |
Yeah I've always thought it was interesting that there were two types of fan here - the Queen fan and the Freddie Mercury obsessive. Alot of the latter group were hormonally imbalanced 15 year old girls as far as I can remember. |
its_a_hard_life 26994 30.06.2007 12:15 |
.DeaconJohn. wrote: the Queen fanThat type is me. |
Hippolyte 30.06.2007 12:15 |
Agreed. As much as I love Freddie, the last time I checked, he didn't single-handedly play guitar, drums and bass as well. ;) |
deleted user 30.06.2007 12:22 |
I agree completely. And obviously, I am a very big Freddie Mercury fan. He was an amazing writer, but John Deacon, Brian May, and Roger Taylor all contributed very important things to the band. John writes amazing songs, though very few and played very many instruments if the band needed it. Roger played fantastically on the drums. He is recognized as one of the world's best. If he wasn't there, songs like Keep Yourself Alive wouldn't be as heavy and catchy. And he wrote one of my favorites, One Vision. Brian's Red Special is the Queen sound. That is how important he is. Maybe I sound trite or like somewhat of an idiot, but I think people are too hard on Brian. The man is just trying to live his life doing what he loves. Don't we all? I don't see how he is egotistical at all. |
deleted user 30.06.2007 12:30 |
Heck, I tell my MOM that Queen was more than Freddie. |
M.H 30.06.2007 13:00 |
Yeh, I must agree, people can become obsessive, I am saying that and I am a Freddie Mercury nut! However, even though he is my favorite member, it is obvious that all four of them needed to work together to create the brilliance of Queen. The Red Special gives Queen that unique sound, possibly the most unique element of Queen, and thats saying something. Take Care... M.H |
redspecial85 30.06.2007 13:56 |
I agree Mr. Jingles...absolutely...the Freddie Mercury obsessed people also are the Paul Rodgers haters. |
magicalfreddiemercury 30.06.2007 14:22 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: However, I'm sick to the fuckin' stomach of people who constantly deny the influence that Brian, Roger, and John had on Queen as if Freddie was the one and only who did everything. To make matters even worse, I nearly puke my guts whenever someone makes those tiresome old comments about how jealous is Brian of all the praise and love Freddie gets from the music press and other musicians. Guys, do I need to remind you that Brian has given more praise to Freddie than Roger and John, so why are you guys picking on Brian? Too bad for you if he doesn't mention Freddie on every single Soapbox entry. I'm also sick of those who do nothing but whine about how much they miss Freddie, and yes I do agree that there's not one single day where we didn't wish he was still around... BUT PLEASE!! The guy has been dead for almost 17 years, don't you think it's time to let it go and move along??!!My guess is what people perceive as jealousy on Brian's part is more his frustration at this very thing. Thirty years later, he's still being asked the same questions about BoRap. Nearly 17 years after Freddie's death, he's still asked questions about Freddie. Brian doesn't owe Freddie anything. He's an artist in his own right. I happen to be a Freddie fan first, and yet even I find it embarrassing and uncomfortable when Brian and Roger are forced to field the same questions over and over... all these years later. |
Gratzi 30.06.2007 14:24 |
It is sad indeed. I know people who think that Freddie's nick was Queen. ( oh! that was a band! oh!) Ignorants! |
deleted user 30.06.2007 14:30 |
.DeaconJohn. wrote: Alot of the latter group were hormonally imbalanced 15 year old girls as far as I can remember.SO true. And even younger than 15. |
mickyparise 30.06.2007 14:39 |
Well i totally disagree about this post, and not even sure why I'm replying, but yes, QUEEN was QUEEN with all 4 members, not just Freddie as now, everyone seems to bashing him. Why? QUEEN will remain in our lives, everyday, and so far, I have'nt seen one group that has the loyal and dedicated fans as Queen. The Music industy is totally out of control, with the one hit wonder boys, and one hit wonders, boy bands, girl bands, American Idol singers, not to discredit where credit is due, but the music is'nt the same and never will be! I no times have changed, but who can really say if they ever been to a QUEEN concert and been to concerts nowadays, that QUEEN still was the greatest Live band, to this day! Maybe I'm bias, but I seen Queen twice in the 80's and the Queen/PR concert(which was alright, but still not the same without Freddie/John in Pittsburgh last year and been to tons of concerts in my days and NOONE compares to QUEEN! You have the big bands in the days playing now at County Fairs and small time bars.......and other bands, putting out sh@#$, ex: Rolling Stones..... FREDDIE MERCURY will live on whether people/fans etc like or not! He was the greatest frontman and Loved to please the fans! His unique style will never b matched and was singing his heart out even though he was slowing dying. Is'nt that enough for anyone or are you that shallow to see that Freddie was all about music and was there till he passed away! So if your sick of people like me being, not obsessed with Freddie, but recognizing what he brought to the music world is way beyond me! So if your tired of Freddie and don't like hearing people talk about him, then sorry about that...... cuz in my Heart, Freddie was all that and more! |
Vincent. 30.06.2007 14:42 |
Uh...I'm not so obsessed as I was. :P I used to just like Freddie...At first I didn't even know the rest of the band's names. (I thought Brian was John and John was Brian. :P) But now I've gotten to where I like some of John's, Roger's, and Brian's stuff more than Freddie's. And like Michelle (Freddie's Valentine) said, Brian's Red Special is the Queen sound. And most of my friends just think Queen was only Freddie and a back-up band. If they say that, I then force them to listen to '39 or Loser In The End. :P But really...I get what you're saying, man. I used to be Freddie obsessed...I still am, a little. :P But I've learned to respect the other members and realize that they were a part of the band as well. =] |
deleted user 30.06.2007 14:59 |
.DeaconJohn. wrote: Alot of the latter group were hormonally imbalanced 15 year old girls as far as I can remember.Or Atheist. |
Vincent. 30.06.2007 15:02 |
<font color=fuchsia>Thirtynine ? wrote:LMAO xD.DeaconJohn. wrote: Alot of the latter group were hormonally imbalanced 15 year old girls as far as I can remember.Or Atheist. |
Treasure Moment 30.06.2007 15:14 |
Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music forever |
deleted user 30.06.2007 15:15 |
Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverFreddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear. Just stating facts. |
Smitty 30.06.2007 15:22 |
Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
lyricalassasin77 30.06.2007 15:45 |
redspecial85 wrote: I agree Mr. Jingles...absolutely...the Freddie Mercury obsessed people also are the Paul Rodgers haters.I'm not obsessed with him and I still hate Paul Rodgers so there you have it.......Anyways though this is a good thread. If you think that people on these discussion boards are obsessed try going to read those tributes that you can leave to Freddie on the HomePage and read some of the deranged and obsessive things they say about him there. Freddie too is my favorite member but I'm not assine enough to believe he was the predomiant force behind Queen....Later |
Winter Land Man 30.06.2007 15:47 |
I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him. |
Treasure Moment 30.06.2007 15:53 |
<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
deleted user 30.06.2007 16:03 |
Atheist wrote:Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
gmhmagic 30.06.2007 16:04 |
I know many of you will hate me for this... but what about those obsessed with Queen???? We are all Queen fans here of course, but there are some people that are really annoying... The only thing they have ever listened to is Queen, the only thing the speak about is Queen, they can´t have objective opinions about other bands or artists, etc... What do you think of them? |
Treasure Moment 30.06.2007 16:05 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:im not a joke, maybe you are, the least of things you are stupidAtheist wrote:Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
deleted user 30.06.2007 16:06 |
Atheist wrote:Then I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are.<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:im not a joke, maybe you are, the least of things you are stupidAtheist wrote:Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
Treasure Moment 30.06.2007 16:18 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:you are stupid and thats a factAtheist wrote:Then I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are.<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:im not a joke, maybe you are, the least of things you are stupidAtheist wrote:Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
deleted user 30.06.2007 16:23 |
Atheist wrote: you are stupid and thats a factYes, and I stand by the fact that I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are. You are really going to have to do better than that if you want to make me FEEL stupid, even. But to be honest, I don't think you have it in you. |
Treasure Moment 30.06.2007 16:40 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:i dont need to do anything, you have showed that you are a stupid sheep.Atheist wrote: you are stupid and thats a factYes, and I stand by the fact that I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are. You are really going to have to do better than that if you want to make me FEEL stupid, even. But to be honest, I don't think you have it in you. |
Gratzi 30.06.2007 16:45 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.You mean these people?: link On one hand, this is repulsive, on the other it's quite scary... |
QueenMercury46 30.06.2007 16:50 |
I'm obsessed with Queen. I'm also obsessed with Freddie Mercury. Just because I love him does not mean that I don't believe the others are important. I know that each of the members put their 25% into everything and they all have incredible talent. I love all of them. I do believe this applies to many other Freddie Mercury lovers. |
deleted user 30.06.2007 17:10 |
<font color=gray>Imperator Destinatus wrote:Or, you know these ones : link.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.You mean these people?: link On one hand, this is repulsive, on the other it's quite scary... Atheist wrote: i dont need to do anything, you have showed that you are a stupid sheep.It would indeed perhaps be better for all of us if you refrained from doing anything. |
brENsKi 30.06.2007 17:18 |
Jingles...this one is easy to work out simple really....(and although Freddie has always bene my favourite band member) i can see why this "hysteria" has evolved ...it's called "legend"....and legend is only ever really at it's peak when the subject of the legend passes on keith moon, bon scott, sid vicious, john lennon, john bonham and our dear Freddie...they all died before their time,,,and consequently became bigger myths/legends than the bands they left behind |
Gratzi 30.06.2007 17:21 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:OMG, Charles, is this the world we created?<font color=gray>Imperator Destinatus wrote:Or, you know these ones : link.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.You mean these people?: link On one hand, this is repulsive, on the other it's quite scary... |
mickyparise 30.06.2007 17:22 |
This is what I mean......people #1 getting off the subject at hand and being defensive on other peoples opinion's! And threating people, that is the soceity nowadays, unreal! How some (imho stupid) topic can be change so fast, show's what we are becoming.....igroant stupid people! Everyone just TRY to get along and maybe, not here, but can b a start to b adults about everything instead of being such spoiled little people! There's so much more in life, to agrue about, instead of a dumb post, and the real life, Iraq war, London bombings, Children getting abused, etc.......... SO please grow up and quit the petty stuff that noone cares about or will lose sleep over! Is this the World We Created????? |
QUEENROCKS_1991 30.06.2007 20:43 |
There nothing wrong with people being obsessed with QUEEN that is up to them if you dont like reading or hearing what they saying then dont come here and whine about it Everyone got a right to say what they want to say I collect everything on queen stuff i goes to their shows and tribute bands and collect all their dvd does that mean i am obsessed ??? who cares everyone has their own hobbies ROCK ON QUEEN and i dont give a shit what people think QUEEN still rocks |
steven 35638 30.06.2007 20:46 |
I would say that I don't understand why people are so enthusiastic about Freddie Mercury, but I can not. He was truly a legend, a man who saw himself as no better than anyone else. He was generous, caring, respectful, accepting, and above all an outstanding influential musician who has forever changed the level of perfection in the music industry. The thing I do not agree with are the thick headed morons who think he is what made Queen so great. What he really did was make himself look 'great.' Queen as a WHOLE were able to make 'Queen.' It's a simple concept to grasp and if you can't see that you're simply an idiot I'm afraid to say. As for all those 'obsessed Queen fans' they're even more idiotic. Now, by 'obsessed Queen fans' I mean all those who eat, drink, and sleep Queen. They're the ones who have no idea of what else exists or even have no interest in what else exists. There are so many other things to be interested in! Consider the fact that Queen experimented with several different musical variations. Queen themselves had various musical tastes. It would seem stupid that Queen fans would be so narrow minded if the band themselves were so opened minded. |
deleted user 30.06.2007 20:54 |
I was very glad the day I learnt Freddie liked steak. Because I hate that stuff. |
QueenTaylor 30.06.2007 21:33 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him.the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing. |
QueenMercury46 30.06.2007 23:03 |
"Now, by 'obsessed Queen fans' I mean all those who eat, drink, and sleep Queen. They're the ones who have no idea of what else exists or even have no interest in what else exists." Ok, you can be obsessed with one thing and like other things, too. It's not like the only band I like is Queen. I love a ton of other music, too. Queen is just my absolute favorite. I do have much interest in other things that exist thank you very much! Being obsessed with something isn't really that person's fault. I can't help but have such an extreme fascination for Queen. Almost everyone has some sort of obsession with something, whatever it is. Maybe you just don't get that same feeling. |
steven 35638 30.06.2007 23:43 |
QueenMercury46 wrote: "Now, by 'obsessed Queen fans' I mean all those who eat, drink, and sleep Queen. They're the ones who have no idea of what else exists or even have no interest in what else exists." Ok, you can be obsessed with one thing and like other things, too. It's not like the only band I like is Queen. I love a ton of other music, too. Queen is just my absolute favorite. I do have much interest in other things that exist thank you very much! Being obsessed with something isn't really that person's fault. I can't help but have such an extreme fascination for Queen. Almost everyone has some sort of obsession with something, whatever it is. Maybe you just don't get that same feeling.Believe it or not I do understand how you feel. We are all obsessed Queen fans in our own unique way, but there are those who choose to block out any other source of music. They need to open their horizons. |
john bodega 01.07.2007 01:40 |
Regarding the mythical way we treat dead celebrities... Am I the only person who doesn't give a flying fuck about Sid Vicious? |
brENsKi 01.07.2007 04:43 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Regarding the mythical way we treat dead celebrities... Am I the only person who doesn't give a flying fuck about Sid Vicious?i was just making a reference to his legend being bigger than the sex pistols as i did the others i mentioned |
AmeriQueen 01.07.2007 05:52 |
Well on one hand, Freddie is the greatest musician and performer ever so of course we are sad as hell about his absence. But on the other hand, Brian, Roger and John are collectively more impressive, and individually close. |
Treasure Moment 01.07.2007 08:12 |
ThomasQu?nn wrote:haha brian behind Queen, are you a fucking moron? Freddie wrote bohemian rhapsody which is the song that really made them big, he wrote 10 of 17 of their hit songs plus had input in the other members songs that were hits.Mr.Jingles wrote: Yes, and I feel like it's about time someone had to say it. Of course, we all love Freddie and he's undeniably one of the reasons why we waste our time on this board. However, I'm sick to the fuckin' stomach of people who constantly deny the influence that Brian, Roger, and John had on Queen as if Freddie was the one and only who did everything. To make matters even worse, I nearly puke my guts whenever someone makes those tiresome old comments about how jealous is Brian of all the praise and love Freddie gets from the music press and other musicians. Guys, do I need to remind you that Brian has given more praise to Freddie than Roger and John, so why are you guys picking on Brian? Too bad for you if he doesn't mention Freddie on every single Soapbox entry. I'm also sick of those who do nothing but whine about how much they miss Freddie, and yes I do agree that there's not one single day where we didn't wish he was still around... BUT PLEASE!! The guy has been dead for almost 17 years, don't you think it's time to let it go and move along??!! Once again, let me remind you that this thread is nothing against Freddie. He's one of the greatest rock idols and music legends to walk the earth, but will you please shut up for once and look at the big picture and realize that there was more to Queen than just Freddie.However i have posted a few times saying that Brian is the man behind queen. Just listen to freddies solo album. Pop crap in general. Brian kept it heavy. His solo albums are MASTERPIECES and you call them crap?!? you are a stupid fool, period |
deleted user 01.07.2007 08:40 |
I agree. My friends call me obsessed, so what if I am? I love Freddie just as much as the next person. But, Brian, Roger and John all had huge impacts on the music industry as we know it. So, Freddie couldn't play the fucking guitar as well as Brian but neither could Roger. He is one of the greatest drummers of rock history. And John played guitar, piano and drums. Queen as a whole made the greatest impact on the music we listen to today. Real intruments, real talent. None of the digital shit we have today. |
saltnvinegar 01.07.2007 08:43 |
My very first thought on reading this topic was 'if you can't obsess about him on a Queen forum, then where the hell else can you?!'
However, I do understand the frustrations of people who feel that the other three are overlooked.
As Brenski has already said, dying is the surefire way to cement a legendary status.
I bet Paul and Ringo get questioned about John (and to a lesser extent, George) all the time, the guys from The Doors are no doubt sick to the back teeth of Jim Morrison questions and so it goes on.
The fact that Brian, Roger and John are still with us takes away some of the sentimentality which people sometimes overuse when talking about Freddie.
From what I gather the OP is pissed off because he feels Queen are not given enough acknowledgement as a *group* and Freddie is put on a pedestal. I'm not sure what kind of discussion forum it'd be if we only spoke about them as a unit. All four contributed and no one member was greater than the group as a whole but that doesn't stop us all instinctively favouring one guy over the other three.
I have one question to ask about the original post:
Mr.Jingles wrote: BUT PLEASE!! The guy has been dead for almost 17 years, don't you think it's time to let it go and move along??!!I'm a little confused, 'let it go'..'move along'?...the only way to do that would be to stop mentioning him at all, then it wouldn't be a Queen site per se, it'd be a discussion forum to talk about Brian, Roger, John and sometimes Paul Rodgers. Perhaps it'd be better to have one section each dedicated to the 4 individual members so people wouldn't get pissed off with too much Freddie adulation? |
FVBVA 01.07.2007 08:45 |
i have never seen a freddie and queen fan like atheist,i m a big fan of freddie too,and you must be ashamed of yourself thomasqueen and people like you,freddie is dead he needs real fans,not the fake fans like you and others,real fans like me and atheist will make fredie live forever not the kind fan as you are |
Hippolyte 01.07.2007 08:46 |
However i have posted a few times saying that Brian is the man behind queen.Completely disagree with you here. I honestly don't think any one member was solely responsible for their success. Yes, even Brian with the Red Special or Freddie as the frontman. Each member was too valuable in their own way for us to attribute Queen's appeal to just one thing. Their wide range of songs was made possible because they had four solid, very different songwriters. Without all of them writing (or with different members), we wouldn't have some of the songs we know and love best! We also wouldn't have some of our favourite beats/riffs/basslines/harmonies that we all love to debate and play or sing along with, people. Don't forget that and don't have the gall to tell me that each member wasn't key to producing those. If you do, put on a good pair of headphones and listen to those songs again for all the little nuances that made Queen our favourite band in the first place. |
Sebastian 01.07.2007 08:58 |
Judging Freddie's input on the band based solely on 'Mr Bad Guy' is ridiculous: that's the sort of music he was writing at the time. A Freddie Mercury solo record ten years before would have been progressive rock. IMO they all contributed, and they were all fundamental. That's why IMO Roger + Freddie wouldn't be Queen, Roger + John wouldn't, Freddie + John wouldn't, Freddie + Brian wouldn't, Brian + John wouldn't and, of course, Roger + Brian aren't. |
J R Deaky 01.07.2007 10:53 |
I nearly puke my guts whenever someone makes those tiresome old comments about how jealous is Brian of all the praise and love Freddie gets from the music press Mr Jingles, Freddie never got any praise from the press. thats why he stopped giving any interviews from about mid seventies. Brian has often spoke about his admiration for Freddie,as he has done for John,Roger and even Paul. Me,i love them all.I used to go and see Queen because of their consummation and sheer professionalism on stage.That plus the fact that they were and are still bloody good musicians. When you went to see Queen you knew you were getting a great gig from even before start to finish,since they played Chopin and Paganini through the P A before the gig started.This was something that Queen insisted on. =) |
J R Deaky 01.07.2007 10:58 |
Atheist wrote:Come on guys.This should be in the Personal post.<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:you are stupid and thats a factAtheist wrote:Then I revel in being stupid as opposed to whatever you are.<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:im not a joke, maybe you are, the least of things you are stupidAtheist wrote:Whether you are a joke account or not, you must be a very bored and sad person. I only hope you're a joke account because I feel bad if everything you present to us is not a joke.<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote:I just use the nickname against man made religions which i dont believe in. I dont know if there is a god or not, no one does, all im saying is that the organized religion is bullshit and that i dont believe in their "god"Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverI thought you didn't believe in god? |
rosedewitt 01.07.2007 10:59 |
it's no obsession, it's a fact that freddie mercury was queen, and queen without freddie mercury would have never been queen and isn't queen anymore. but queen would also have been queen with another drummer for example. |
beautifulsoup 01.07.2007 11:05 |
Uh oh... |
Sergei. 01.07.2007 11:12 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:I thought it was MOZART.Atheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverFreddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear. Just stating facts. :P |
deleted user 01.07.2007 12:37 |
<font color=6600f>Vishnu.<h6>A Scientist wrote:That was the OTHER time. Very different motive, by the way.<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:I thought it was MOZART. :PAtheist wrote: Im just stating facts, Freddie is the god of all music foreverFreddie murdered Chopin in his sleep and stole his underwear. Just stating facts. J R Deaky wrote: Come on guys.This should be in the Personal post.It probably shouldn't be on QZ, period. |
Dan C. 01.07.2007 17:31 |
I agree with you, Jingles.
I also agree with THIS:
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him. |
QueenTaylor 01.07.2007 19:38 |
Dan Corson VIII: The Zeppo wrote: I agree with you, Jingles. I also agree with THIS:I explained this-.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him. the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing. |
gmhmagic 06.07.2007 00:39 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:Couldn´t agree more...! (read my previous post on this subject) ;)QueenMercury46 wrote: "Now, by 'obsessed Queen fans' I mean all those who eat, drink, and sleep Queen. They're the ones who have no idea of what else exists or even have no interest in what else exists." Ok, you can be obsessed with one thing and like other things, too. It's not like the only band I like is Queen. I love a ton of other music, too. Queen is just my absolute favorite. I do have much interest in other things that exist thank you very much! Being obsessed with something isn't really that person's fault. I can't help but have such an extreme fascination for Queen. Almost everyone has some sort of obsession with something, whatever it is. Maybe you just don't get that same feeling.Believe it or not I do understand how you feel. We are all obsessed Queen fans in our own unique way, but there are those who choose to block out any other source of music. They need to open their horizons. |
~im a fool~ 06.07.2007 21:31 |
*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote:i know its none of my buisness, but what does That mean?<b><font color="sky blue">Roger's Queen wrote:I know what you mean. Allot of girls say the same about me, how how i look and all... yeah what can i say.... But hey, I only have eyes for you.Dan Corson VIII: The Zeppo wrote: I agree with you, Jingles. I also agree with THIS:I explained this- the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing..*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him. |
beautifulsoup 07.07.2007 15:32 |
Sebastian wrote: Judging Freddie's input on the band based solely on 'Mr Bad Guy' is ridiculous: that's the sort of music he was writing at the time. A Freddie Mercury solo record ten years before would have been progressive rock. IMO they all contributed, and they were all fundamental. That's why IMO Roger + Freddie wouldn't be Queen, Roger + John wouldn't, Freddie + John wouldn't, Freddie + Brian wouldn't, Brian + John wouldn't and, of course, Roger + Brian aren't.Agreed. 100%. |
lillian 07.07.2007 16:29 |
Go to qol and read sara mercurys posts...thats not only obbessive but insane imo.Unless its like that..to the people who talk about Freddie can and should imo. |
Sergei. 07.07.2007 16:34 |
I love all the Queen members. They are sexy. xD However, I wouldn't ever want to fuck any of them. The only people I'd want them have sex with would be each other. And that's wayyyy back, yeh, in the early 70s. XD |
lillian 07.07.2007 16:35 |
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StormtrooperInStilettos 09.07.2007 10:27 |
Wow, when I first read the subject title, I was thinking, "Why the hell would this person post something like that on a Queen notice board?" But after reading your entry, I can't agree more. I adore Freddie (duh), but I wish people would realize that Queen was a group effort. Anyone who is a huge fan would know that that was exactly what they always tried to get across to people. Queen consisted of 4 equal parts, and I'm sure it bugged the crap out of them when fans and journalists refused to acknowledge all of their talents. |
StormtrooperInStilettos 09.07.2007 10:28 |
Cookies... you like fanfiction. I know where you can find exactly that if you are interested... ;) |
StormtrooperInStilettos 09.07.2007 10:29 |
oops... i'm trying to ask you if you like fanfiction. |
deleted user 09.07.2007 18:35 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: Heck, I tell my MOM that Queen was more than Freddie.I do the same thing with my grandmother. She also likes Roger, but she definiely prefers Freddie. Whenever I mention one of the other Queen members, she always asks about Freddie and wishes to talk about that instead. |
QueenTaylor 09.07.2007 19:43 |
*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote:haha..azza, all I can do is smile!! :D<b><font color="sky blue">Roger's Queen wrote:I know what you mean. Allot of girls say the same about me, how how i look and all... yeah what can i say.... But hey, I only have eyes for you.Dan Corson VIII: The Zeppo wrote: I agree with you, Jingles. I also agree with THIS:I explained this- the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing..*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him. |
QueenTaylor 09.07.2007 21:27 |
*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote::D mwwwwah!!<b><font color="sky blue">Roger's Queen wrote:and its such a nice smile........mmmwwwaaahhh!*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote:haha..azza, all I can do is smile!! :D<b><font color="sky blue">Roger's Queen wrote:I know what you mean. Allot of girls say the same about me, how how i look and all... yeah what can i say.... But hey, I only have eyes for you.Dan Corson VIII: The Zeppo wrote: I agree with you, Jingles. I also agree with THIS:I explained this- the thing with Roger and us girls is that we think he was really hot in the 70s-80s years and he was!! Many girls thought so. He was very cute in his day, but now, he's not the same. now, he's old and I don't think about ohh he's so hot when I see him today. Oh, and we know that "he's not young anymore and he's never going to look that way again" Yeah we know, but we're just staing a fact about then and how much we'd love to meet him and all that. I don't know really how to explain it. It's just a girl thing..*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I'm sick of people obsessed with Roger... saying they'd fuck him and all... he's an old man, old enough to be a grandfather to a lot of people who say they'd do dirty things with him. |
Cedric6014 09.07.2007 23:07 |
ANYway, I think one of them actually said that Queen were greater than the sum of their parts. I have heard one of Freddie's solo albums and I own two of Rogers. They are all terrible. I haven't heard any of Brian's but I suspect that his are shite too. Okay musucianship, but no soul, no decent pop hooks - nothing for people to latch on to. If Freddie was the life and soul of Queen I would have thought that his solo efforts woud have done much better. Individually they are awesome, creative musicians, but it seems that they had some amazing chemistry as a band that really allowed them to produce fantiastic songs. I think that the "Sound of Queen" is not Freddie's vocals or Brians guitar, but perhapsthe vocal harmonies they produced - very distinctive, and relied on Roger Freddie and Brian. I think all four of them were critical to the success of Queen. And despite what someone said earlier about Freddie writing 10 out of 17 of their hits, I think they all had considerable input into each other's songs. I think almost all of their songs were a musical collaboration. I remember reading that Freddie said that whoever wrote the lyrics got the credit. They changed their minds about this in the late 80s when they realised that all four contributions were equally as important - hence the credit to "Queen". I better put in a word for John here: Freddie may have written Body Language, and Roger have written A Kind of Magic but John put down the baseline which MADE those songs. |
Sebastian 10.07.2007 03:57 |
> I haven't heard any of Brian's but I suspect that his are shite too. IMO 'Back To The Light' outdoes any Queen album. > I think that the "Sound of Queen" is not Freddie's vocals or Brians guitar, but perhapsthe vocal harmonies they produced If so, then John wasn't as important as the others. And Fred would still be more important than Brian or Roger since many of those distinctive harmonies have his voice overdubbed more times than theirs, or are just by one of them (e.g. 'Love Of My Life' is all Freddie, 'I'm In Love With My Car' is all Roger, 'Leaving Home Ain't Easy' is all Brian). > I think all four of them were critical to the success of Queen. Of course, but it doesn't mean that the four of them were *equally* critical. A person can't live without lungs, but it doesn't mean that they're equally important as the brain. > I think almost all of their songs were a musical collaboration. Hardly. > I remember reading that Freddie said that whoever wrote the lyrics got the credit. Misquoted comment IMO. Note that Bri got a credit for 'Is This The World' and 'Mother Love', being Fred the lyricist in both cases. > They changed their minds about this in the late 80s when they realised that all four contributions were equally as important - hence the credit to "Queen". Yes and no ... long story. > I better put in a word for John here: Freddie may have written Body Language, and Roger have written A Kind of Magic but John put down the baseline which MADE those songs. The bassline in 'Body Language' is done by Fred on a synth, John didn't participate there. The leitmotif in 'Magic' is Fred's creation too. The fact that John was the bassist didn't mean he wrote all the bass lines; likewise, Brian didn't write all the guitar parts, Roger didn't write all the drum parts and Freddie didn't write all the lyrics or melodies. The four of them were capable of doing the entire arrangement, and in many cases they did. Of course, there are exceptions, such as Bri helping out on lyrics for both 'A Hard Life' and 'Friends Will Be Friends', and Fred re-arranging 'Ga Ga' and 'Magic'. Even by "outsiders": Peter Straker came up with some lines that would end on 'Slightly Mad', and even Fred's driver had some (few) lyrics thrown in somewhere. So yes, Queen were a democracy and the four of them were vital, but it doesn't mean that they all contributed equally - it's obvious that Roger's input increased with time, and John's was minimal on the early period and on 'Innuendo'. |
Cedric6014 10.07.2007 07:14 |
Well gee thanks for discrediting my ENTIRE post |
saltnvinegar 10.07.2007 08:14 |
StormtrooperInStilettos wrote: Wow, when I first read the subject title, I was thinking, "Why the hell would this person post something like that on a Queen notice board?" But after reading your entry, I can't agree more. I adore Freddie (duh), but I wish people would realize that Queen was a group effort. Anyone who is a huge fan would know that that was exactly what they always tried to get across to people. Queen consisted of 4 equal parts, and I'm sure it bugged the crap out of them when fans and journalists refused to acknowledge all of their talents.Again, I just don't recall seeing posts here where people have actually *denied* they were a group effort. Talking about your favourite member of the band and why you admire him is not akin to dissing the other three. It seems to me that the people who are angry about this fail to see the many posts praising Brian, Roger and John too. |
Sebastian 10.07.2007 08:31 |
Cedric6014 wrote: Well gee thanks for discrediting my ENTIRE postNot discrediting, just stating some opinions and facts. I mean, considering Bri's solo stuff shite (even though you haven't bothered to listen to it, let alone with an open mind) is an opinion (even if I completely disagree). Thinking that John wrote the basslines because he was the bassist is a mistake (as I said, it'd be like thinking Fred wrote all the lyrics and melodies). And thinking that the bass on 'Body Language' is an actual (electric four-string) bass is another mistake. You're not "compelled" to know those things, but if you write on a public forum people may debate what you've "said", especially if it's misleading. |
Cedric6014 10.07.2007 09:21 |
Well, bearing all that in mind I still consider the post discredited. Feel free to put wrongs right if you see them. Anyhoo, are you SURE the BL baseline is a synth? it sounds alot like a bass guitar to me. Nothing on the record that says so. Maybe you've seen them do it live? Why on earth would they want to synthesize a bass sound? And I'm wrong to assume that Brian's solo stuff is bad - it probably isn't. It's hard to imagine Back to the Light being better than Queen's catalogue, could be a secret gem though. I'm still firm in my opinion about the "Queen sound" though. The 3-way harmonies are incredibly distinctive, and they litter their material from beginning to end. I don't necessarily think that Freddie's voice was a more important component part of the trio. If anything I reckon its Roger's rasping falsetto that makes it distinctive. A further opinion for fair game! EDIT: Oh I think I better add that I think Freddie is the best Rock vocalist ever! (at least equal to Robert Plant) |
Queen-Obsessed 10.07.2007 20:45 |
I agree however I feel this way about the people obsessed with any one member as they can be frustrating in not recognizing the GROUP that was Queen. There are some who manage to be obsessed and still realize that there was more than one member contributing to the band, they are alright. :P |
Dusta 10.07.2007 22:01 |
Whew! I was beginning to feel decidedly unwelcome. My Freddie, "obsession," came, unfortunately, after his death, as did my general obsession with Queen, as a group. Though I grew up listening to them, I am only now finding out more about them. I find them, as musicians, artists, and, human beings, extremely interesting.
I must confess, however, that what first drew me to Queen were the amazing melodies, and, what initially drew my attention to those melodies was the voice of Mr Mercury.
I admit that I have little interest in Queen+ Paul Rodgers--the magic just isn't there, for me.
It seems that is an unpopular feeling here.<font color=black>QUEEN OBSESSED wrote: I agree however I feel this way about the people obsessed with any one member as they can be frustrating in not recognizing the GROUP that was Queen. There are some who manage to be obsessed and still realize that there was more than one member contributing to the band, they are alright. :P |
mike hunt 11.07.2007 01:55 |
Cedric6014 wrote: ANYway, I think one of them actually said that Queen were greater than the sum of their parts. I have heard one of Freddie's solo albums and I own two of Rogers. They are all terrible. I haven't heard any of Brian's but I suspect that his are shite too. Okay musucianship, but no soul, no decent pop hooks - nothing for people to latch on to. If Freddie was the life and soul of Queen I would have thought that his solo efforts woud have done much better. Individually they are awesome, creative musicians, but it seems that they had some amazing chemistry as a band that really allowed them to produce fantiastic songs. I think that the "Sound of Queen" is not Freddie's vocals or Brians guitar, but perhapsthe vocal harmonies they produced - very distinctive, and relied on Roger Freddie and Brian. I think all four of them were critical to the success of Queen. And despite what someone said earlier about Freddie writing 10 out of 17 of their hits, I think they all had considerable input into each other's songs. I think almost all of their songs were a musical collaboration. I remember reading that Freddie said that whoever wrote the lyrics got the credit. They changed their minds about this in the late 80s when they realised that all four contributions were equally as important - hence the credit to "Queen". I better put in a word for John here: Freddie may have written Body Language, and Roger have written A Kind of Magic but John put down the baseline which MADE those songs.I agree about roger's solo stuff, but your missing out on some hidden gems with freddie and brian. The one album you should check out is Freddie's Barcelona CD, it's a brilliant mixture of pop and opera. One of the best albums I'v ever heard!... MY feeling towards Barcelona is the same way Sebastion feels about brian's back to the light... those are the two solo efforts every queen fan should check out. |
Cedric6014 11.07.2007 02:10 |
Argh stop bringing up my discredited post. FINE i will listen to those albums. God help me if they are bad though...you'll all hear about it! |
mike hunt 11.07.2007 02:34 |
I'm just saying both of those CD's are worth checking out. If you need guitars and drums in your music than it's not for you. Barcelona is a vocalist dream. I should add that sebastion saying that "back to the light" is better than anything queen ever did is pretty pathetic, but it's still worth hearing. write back and let us know how you like these two CD's. I'll be curious. |
Sebastian 11.07.2007 15:41 |
> Anyhoo, are you SURE the BL baseline is a synth? it sounds alot like a bass guitar to me. Considering that the sound is EXACTLY the same as 80s synths (more precisely the Roland Jupiter 8 and the Oberheim OB-Xa), considering that it's so OBVIOUSLY looped, and considering that on International Musician and Recording World mag (November 1982), John Deacon himself said, and I quote: "My role actually shrank with the use of keyboards. It now gives the group direct expression for a nonbassist to play their own bass line. Some of the track on the album -- like "Body Language" -- were Freddie on keyboard bass"... considering all of that, I AM sure. > Nothing on the record that says so. The record hasn't got credits, as a matter of fact. Many songs from Flash onwards have synth-bass, and that's sort of included on the credits when they list Fred, Rog, Bri and John for "keyboards". > Maybe you've seen them do it live? I *think* that live they did replace the synth-bass by John on the grey Fender. But it doesn't mean that on the record it was done that way. There are loads of differences between live and the studio: John and Brian played bass and guitar on 'Sheer Heart Attack' live using Musicman and Red Special while on the record they were both by Roger and (reportedly) using Fender instruments. Fred played acoustic grand piano on 'Best Friend' live while in the studio it'd been John on a Wurlitzer electric. Etc. > Why on earth would they want to synthesize a bass sound? Because it was trendy (anyone who says that Queen were never influenced by whatever was on vogue is merely a stepford), and because it gave the composer of the song the possibility of recording basslines (and drum-parts, via Linn machines) exactly as they wanted them without having to explain to John (and Roger). > It's hard to imagine Back to the Light being better than Queen's catalogue, could be a secret gem though. It's merely an opinion, of course. But I do prefer 'Back To The Light', it's got better guitar-work (Bri's solos on 'Resurrection' are brilliant), better bass-work (John's good, but Neil's better), better drum-work (Roger's brill, but Cozy's better) and ... well, not better vocals, but the songs are beautiful and 'Last Horizon' is perfect IMO. > I'm still firm in my opinion about the "Queen sound" though. The 3-way harmonies are incredibly distinctive, and they litter their material from beginning to end. If so, then John was significatively less important than the others. > If anything I reckon its Roger's rasping falsetto that makes it distinctive. No, it's not. Neither Fred's clear tone or Bri's unique delivery. They were all capable of doing excellent things: the intro of 'Bo Rhap' is all 100% Freddie, and it sounds wonderful; the second bridge of 'Save Me' has some chordal backing (aka "ooooh") done by only Brian, without Roger or Freddie, and it sounds marvellous; 'Sheer Heart Attack' has only Roger on harmonies, and it sounds powerful and great. And of course, when two of them or all three combined their voices it was superb, like on 'Crazy Little Thing' (which btw hasn't got any falsetto by Roger or anybody else for that matter), 'Somebody To Love', etc. > MY feeling towards Barcelona is the same way Sebastion feels about brian's back to the light... those are the two solo efforts every queen fan should check out. I agree. 'Golden Boy' is extraordinary. > Barcelona is a vocalist dream. And the orchestration's immaculate too. |
Sergei. 11.07.2007 18:08 |
StormtrooperInStilettos wrote: Cookies... you like fanfiction. I know where you can find exactly that if you are interested... ;)Well, I do like to indulge every now in then. XD I did find a Queen one a while back; wasn't too thrilled about it because of all the explicit oral sex and whatnot. :P I like some slash fanfiction with a little classiness... and taste (No pun intended.) ;P However, I prefer Mulder and Krycek. Haha.. :P Feel free to send me the link though! xD |
Dusta 11.07.2007 18:15 |
Perhaps Mr May borrowed Krycek's prosthesis. That would explain the unearthly guitar playing.
Of course, that'd be a whole nother X-file involving time travel and whatnot.<font color=teal>Cookies?<h6>A Scientist wrote:StormtrooperInStilettos wrote: Cookies... you like fanfiction. I know where you can find exactly that if you are interested... ;)Well, I do like to indulge every now in then. XD I did find a Queen one a while back; wasn't too thrilled about it because of all the explicit oral sex and whatnot. :P I like some slash fanfiction with a little classiness... and taste (No pun intended.) ;P However, I prefer Mulder and Krycek. Haha.. :P Feel free to send me the link though! xD |
Sebastian 12.07.2007 15:06 |
'Let Your Heart Rule Your Head' is dog's bollocks too, especially live (with Mr Moses doing the solos). |
Winter Land Man 12.07.2007 20:52 |
mike hunt wrote:BARCELONA! That album is great. I'm never ashamed to play that album in public, and I'm sure many Queen fans are.Cedric6014 wrote: ANYway, I think one of them actually said that Queen were greater than the sum of their parts. I have heard one of Freddie's solo albums and I own two of Rogers. They are all terrible. I haven't heard any of Brian's but I suspect that his are shite too. Okay musucianship, but no soul, no decent pop hooks - nothing for people to latch on to. If Freddie was the life and soul of Queen I would have thought that his solo efforts woud have done much better. Individually they are awesome, creative musicians, but it seems that they had some amazing chemistry as a band that really allowed them to produce fantiastic songs. I think that the "Sound of Queen" is not Freddie's vocals or Brians guitar, but perhapsthe vocal harmonies they produced - very distinctive, and relied on Roger Freddie and Brian. I think all four of them were critical to the success of Queen. And despite what someone said earlier about Freddie writing 10 out of 17 of their hits, I think they all had considerable input into each other's songs. I think almost all of their songs were a musical collaboration. I remember reading that Freddie said that whoever wrote the lyrics got the credit. They changed their minds about this in the late 80s when they realised that all four contributions were equally as important - hence the credit to "Queen". I better put in a word for John here: Freddie may have written Body Language, and Roger have written A Kind of Magic but John put down the baseline which MADE those songs.I agree about roger's solo stuff, but your missing out on some hidden gems with freddie and brian. The one album you should check out is Freddie's Barcelona CD, it's a brilliant mixture of pop and opera. One of the best albums I'v ever heard!... MY feeling towards Barcelona is the same way Sebastion feels about brian's back to the light... those are the two solo efforts every queen fan should check out. |
mike hunt 15.07.2007 00:58 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote:Once you get a bit older it really doesn't matter what's cool or not. It's all about the music. I brag about barcelona to all my old rocker buds, and i'm far from ashamed of it. Just finished listening to back to the light and it does have some sweet songs. "nothin but blue" was a song written about freddie, it's probably my favorite on that album.mike hunt wrote:BARCELONA! That album is great. I'm never ashamed to play that album in public, and I'm sure many Queen fans are.Cedric6014 wrote: ANYway, I think one of them actually said that Queen were greater than the sum of their parts. I have heard one of Freddie's solo albums and I own two of Rogers. They are all terrible. I haven't heard any of Brian's but I suspect that his are shite too. Okay musucianship, but no soul, no decent pop hooks - nothing for people to latch on to. If Freddie was the life and soul of Queen I would have thought that his solo efforts woud have done much better. Individually they are awesome, creative musicians, but it seems that they had some amazing chemistry as a band that really allowed them to produce fantiastic songs. I think that the "Sound of Queen" is not Freddie's vocals or Brians guitar, but perhapsthe vocal harmonies they produced - very distinctive, and relied on Roger Freddie and Brian. I think all four of them were critical to the success of Queen. And despite what someone said earlier about Freddie writing 10 out of 17 of their hits, I think they all had considerable input into each other's songs. I think almost all of their songs were a musical collaboration. I remember reading that Freddie said that whoever wrote the lyrics got the credit. They changed their minds about this in the late 80s when they realised that all four contributions were equally as important - hence the credit to "Queen". I better put in a word for John here: Freddie may have written Body Language, and Roger have written A Kind of Magic but John put down the baseline which MADE those songs.I agree about roger's solo stuff, but your missing out on some hidden gems with freddie and brian. The one album you should check out is Freddie's Barcelona CD, it's a brilliant mixture of pop and opera. One of the best albums I'v ever heard!... MY feeling towards Barcelona is the same way Sebastion feels about brian's back to the light... those are the two solo efforts every queen fan should check out. |
FreddiesGhettoTrench 15.07.2007 08:47 |
I agree... It was the inner workings of all four of them which made Queen. I AM a Freddie fan, but one must admit that Queen wouldn't have been Queen without all four of them - something that IMO has become apparent with all of this Paul Rodgers business (nothing against the man, but IMO Queen's beauty was having four members from beginning to end - if you don't have all four members, just do solo tours or something). It's the work between them that made the band and it was the reliance and friendship that they had that kept them going in the late 80's early 90's when they could have easily thrown in the towel. |
My Melancholy Blues 15.07.2007 18:46 |
FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: I agree... It was the inner workings of all four of them which made Queen. I AM a Freddie fan, but one must admit that Queen wouldn't have been Queen without all four of them - something that IMO has become apparent with all of this Paul Rodgers business (nothing against the man, but IMO Queen's beauty was having four members from beginning to end - if you don't have all four members, just do solo tours or something). It's the work between them that made the band and it was the reliance and friendship that they had that kept them going in the late 80's early 90's when they could have easily thrown in the towel.I DO agree! |
Stoner 19.11.2007 20:46 |
Chill out. I also have a tiny crush on Roger Taylor. He has my coloring and my gigantic blue eyes. Give it some time and it might develop into a full blown obsession. |
carboengine 19.11.2007 21:27 |
I wouldn't say I am obsessed, but if it ain't Queen, I don't waste my ears on it. |
Lester Burnham 19.11.2007 21:58 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: BARCELONA! That album is great. I'm never ashamed to play that album in public, and I'm sure many Queen fans are.Perhaps you can help me here. I'm trying to think of a scenario that I would be placed in where I would be compelled to play any music in a public place. Maybe tomorrow, I'll walk into a crowded area in my neighborhood, sit down with a ghettoblaster, and play Barcelona from start to finish. Keep in mind this is northeast Philadelphia, so I'm bound to get some looks. |
Dusta 19.11.2007 22:35 |
But, oooooooh, what a magic moment that would be!
If you decide to do that, please bring along a small film crew?
Lester Burnham wrote:.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: BARCELONA! That album is great. I'm never ashamed to play that album in public, and I'm sure many Queen fans are.Perhaps you can help me here. I'm trying to think of a scenario that I would be placed in where I would be compelled to play any music in a public place. Maybe tomorrow, I'll walk into a crowded area in my neighborhood, sit down with a ghettoblaster, and play Barcelona from start to finish. Keep in mind this is northeast Philadelphia, so I'm bound to get some looks. |
Erin 19.11.2007 23:15 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Maybe tomorrow, I'll walk into a crowded area in my neighborhood, sit down with a ghettoblaster, and play Barcelona from start to finish. Keep in mind this is northeast Philadelphia, so I'm bound to get some looks.Maybe you could throw down some cardboard and start breakdancing to The Fallen Priest! |
Lester Burnham 19.11.2007 23:40 |
Dusta wrote: But, oooooooh, what a magic moment that would be! If you decide to do that, please bring along a small film crew?Oh, don't you worry, I'm sure someone will capture it on their phone and put it on YouTube. Incidentally, a friend and I are always joking that we should have a film crew following us around wherever we go. I might have to look into that a little more seriously. Erin wrote: Maybe you could throw down some cardboard and start breakdancing to The Fallen Priest!This is brilliant. I now have my day fully mapped out! |
Ms. Rebel 20.11.2007 05:34 |
BARCELONAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Dusta 20.11.2007 14:23 |
Ooooooooh, what a show that would be!! My pulse is racing with excitement!! MUST hire film crew!Erin wrote:Lester Burnham wrote: Maybe tomorrow, I'll walk into a crowded area in my neighborhood, sit down with a ghettoblaster, and play Barcelona from start to finish. Keep in mind this is northeast Philadelphia, so I'm bound to get some looks.Maybe you could throw down some cardboard and start breakdancing to The Fallen Priest! |
Boy Thomas Raker 20.11.2007 14:42 |
Odd, I'm obsessed with people who are sick of Freddie Mercury. |
8great8 28.11.2007 14:17 |
im not obsessed but he and john were very important. brian was good back then but too bad he turned into a bitch nowdays. roger is the same. they were good backthen (freddie and john the most) |
daaydo 26.09.2015 23:19 |
I do believe I'm an exception because I am both the Queen fan AND the Freddie Mercury obsessive. I'm 19 years old and Freddie is my #1 role model, I think he was the most talented person to ever live and I love his personality and his looks, and just everything about him. He's taught me so much and I love him both as a person and as a singer and musician. However, I'm also head over heels in love with Queen as a band- and with Roger, Brian, and John individually. I love their solo work (Brian and Roger's), I think they're all extremely talented and brilliant people and I would never call them jealous of Freddie or anything. They are incredible people who all contributed amazing things to an amazing band. Queen is not Queen without any one of them. I'd never call Freddie the "leader of the band" because he said himself that he's not, he was just the lead singer. And despite how much I love him, of course I know that Brian, Roger, and John were just as important to Queen as Freddie was. |
Fat Bottomed Queen 29.09.2015 14:21 |
Agreed. I'm a Queen fan. Somebody might kill me, But I think Freddie's solo stuff is a crock of shit compared to Queen I-Jazz. |
Costa86 29.09.2015 17:02 |
Yeah, Freddie's no Ronnie Pickering. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 29.09.2015 18:34 |
I like Freddie's discography, even is hard to listen the production of Mr. Bad Guy, I think is a good album behind that. Also some records from Roger (the first two, and the last two from The Cross) and Brian (Another World). I'm a Queen fan, I think they were a team, and together, they gave the best. Four visions who helped to create a unique universe. Of course, I love other music. Being thinking only in one band, or one person, is like eat the same thing every day. There are more ambrosia in music....I can hear Queen and next time Serge Gainsbourg or Manic Street Preachers....You can have a favorite band or singer, but there are a lot of things out there. |
noorie 30.09.2015 00:16 |
Actually, I think the answer to this topic is very simple. All of the guys are amazing musicians, and all of them contribute to make the 'Queen' sound. BUT, Freddie has that something special - that 'star quality' that the others just don't have. It is what makes millions adore him. It is what makes him the face of Queen. Of course, dying young has added to the legend, but he made audiences eat out of his palm while he was alive. Unfortunately, as good as the others are musically, they just don't have 'it'! So, it is not just the dying young part that made him a star. He was always one! |
Sebastian 30.09.2015 06:03 |
At the end of the day, there's not enough solo material from Freddie to make an in-depth judgement. His only solo album happened to have taken place at the time when he was at the peak of the disco and minimalist influence. Had he had a solo album ten years prior, it might have sounded a lot differently. Better? Worse? We'll never ever know. Likewise, Roger, John and Brian (and David, Josh and Justin) had about three years to re-arrange and re-record those two songs, so of course they'd sound better. Not only had they got more time, but also more money, more technology and the benefit of experience. And the hardest part of all (actually writing those songs) had already been done, as well as the piano and vocal recordings, so they had a lot to work on. To think or imply they were better arrangers than Freddie under those circumstances is completely unfair. What if we decide to judge Brian's entire songwriting ability based on, say, 'Dancer' or 'I'm Scared'? Good songs they certainly are, but nowhere near as good as, well, probably about fifty other pieces that he wrote. |
Fat Bottomed Queen 30.09.2015 10:56 |
Freddie wrote some of the group's best stuff, but what he does solo seems more for the main crowd rather than from his heart. Some stuff drom barcelona does interest me, however. |
brENsKi 30.09.2015 11:08 |
British Man wrote: Agreed. I'm a Queen fan. Somebody might kill me, But I think Freddie's solo stuff is a crock of shit compared to Queen I-Jazz.not ALL of it.#the Barcelona album is good Mr Bad Guy has some good songs (just poor production) Love Kills is a good tune also Great Pretender would fit well on an EP with Good Old Fashioned Loverboy Seaside Rendezvous, and Millionaire Waltz |
Sebastian 01.10.2015 05:01 |
Actually, I think production on 'Mr Bad Guy' is really good. The problem is not production, but instrumentation and arrangements, in my opinion. |
Pokemaniacjunk 03.10.2015 15:34 |
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