| BradBjorkman5 13.06.2007 23:54 |
here is the complete BBC sessions, not including the "official" tracks 7/25/73 1. See What a Fool I've Been 2. Liar 3. Son and Daughter 4. Keep Yourself Alive 4/3/74 1. Modern Times Rock and Roll 2. The March of The Black Queen 3. Nevermore 4. White Queen 10/16/74 1. Now Im Here 2. Stone Cold Crazy 3. Flick of the Wrist 4. Tenement Funster 10/28/77 1. Spread Your Wings 2. Its Late 3. My Melancholy Blues 4. We Will Rock You |
| deleted user 13.06.2007 23:59 |
this is awesome! |
| Ale Solan 14.06.2007 01:08 |
don't bother downloading, these are not FLAC. |
| Mr Mercury 14.06.2007 05:00 |
Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt the March Of The Black Queen just the official album version with a fade out? |
| pittrek 14.06.2007 05:51 |
Well yes, but technically it is a different version :) |
| Radio-Fixer (ex 'queen7391') 14.06.2007 07:45 |
Are they really "complete"?? They all seems to be 0:58 long.. what a shame.. and I can not open "White Queen".. Is this a general problem or it happened only to me..? |
| Fireplace_BHM 14.06.2007 09:27 |
Great, thank you. |
| Fireplace_BHM 14.06.2007 09:56 |
queen7391 wrote: Are they really "complete"?? They all seems to be 0:58 long.. what a shame.. and I can not open "White Queen".. Is this a general problem or it happened only to me..?Yes, now I've finished downloading when I try to listen to them as a FLAC in Winamp or converted to WAV they are all only 1 minute long ?? |
| elizondo 14.06.2007 10:26 |
queen7391 wrote: Are they really "complete"?? They all seems to be 0:58 long.. what a shame.. and I can not open "White Queen".. Is this a general problem or it happened only to me..?It's a general problem |
| The Real Wizard 14.06.2007 13:08 |
Obviously this is another member of the forum in disguise, trying to play games and waste people's time. Well done. |
| BradBjorkman5 14.06.2007 17:45 |
its seems something went wrong with the transfer from the LP. i am very sorry, please disregard the torrent. i dont know how though, i have the files on my computer and they play all the way through |
| little foetus 14.06.2007 18:01 |
You did not use a shareware that only allow you to extract the first minute of what you have? I know some demos of softwares which are this way... |
| deleted user 15.06.2007 10:07 |
little foetus wrote: You did not use a shareware that only allow you to extract the first minute of what you have? I know some demos of softwares which are this way...most trial versions of software dont even convert to flac |
| Richard Orchard 15.06.2007 10:09 |
you can convert to flac with the "flac frontend" free you can rip for free using Cd-ex Rich |
| pittrek 15.06.2007 11:21 |
Richard, you're alive :) |
| thomasquinn 32989 15.06.2007 13:10 |
Richard Orchard wrote: you can convert to flac with the "flac frontend" free you can rip for free using Cd-ex RichRichard? I haven't seen you around in a year at least! |
| The Loser In The End 18.06.2007 06:30 |
little foetus wrote: You did not use a shareware that only allow you to extract the first minute of what you have? I know some demos of softwares which are this way...Any change to make a new torrent with complete files...? |
| Wilki Amieva 19.06.2007 11:33 |
It doesn't matter - the extracts are lossy. |
| The Loser In The End 19.06.2007 14:15 |
Wilki Amieva wrote: It doesn't matter - the extracts are lossy. BBCsessions wrote: its seems something went wrong with the transfer from the LP. i am very sorry, please disregard the torrent. i dont know how though, i have the files on my computer and they play all the way through...an LP is useally pretty lossless...analog even! So with the right software you can make a perfect 'lossless' A/D convertion... So my question was legit: Is it possible for BBCsessions to make a proper, lossless, torrent. (Extract the LP to wav and than convert to flac) Now if someone has this release on silver cd's, it's even more easy...! |
| comaman2 20.06.2007 17:55 |
Come on, isn't there someone who can give us the real deal? It would be very much appreciated! |
| The Real Wizard 20.06.2007 18:25 |
Mp3s are easy to get, but the lossless versions have really been kept under wraps. I'm still missing most of them. |
| Wilki Amieva 20.06.2007 23:02 |
The Loser In The End wrote: ...an LP is useally pretty lossless...analog even! So with the right software you can make a perfect 'lossless' A/D convertion......You're missing the WHOLE POINT here - that is that the tracks do NOT come from an LP. These are just the regular mp3s, but cut and converted to FLAC. |
| deleted user 21.06.2007 00:28 |
i really wish you would all stop whining about flac if someone had a really really rare concert in a lossy format, would you let him share it? |
| pittrek 21.06.2007 01:39 |
Many of us - yes. I have ALL the BBC sessions in EXCELLENT quality, but in mp3, and that format is NOT very popular here. |
| The Loser In The End 21.06.2007 02:37 |
Wilki Amieva wrote:That's not what BBC sessions wrote...he(she?) wrote that 'something went wrong with the transfer from LP'...The Loser In The End wrote: ...an LP is useally pretty lossless...analog even! So with the right software you can make a perfect 'lossless' A/D convertion......You're missing the WHOLE POINT here - that is that the tracks do NOT come from an LP. These are just the regular mp3s, but cut and converted to FLAC. So my POINT is that an LP itself is lossless...and I was just asking if BBC Sessions could extract the LP in lossless flacs (if I can do that...why can't someone else...?) |
| The Real Wizard 21.06.2007 03:47 |
<h5><b><font color="green">BradBjorkman wrote: i really wish you would all stop whining about flac if someone had a really really rare concert in a lossy format, would you let him share it?If there was no alternative (i.e. the lossless recording cannot be tracked down), then absolutely. :) If the lossless recording is available, then that's the one that should circulate. Why spread an inferior recording when a better one could be spread just as easily? |
| vince73 21.06.2007 09:54 |
to be honest... I´d like to have this tracks in complete lentgh. Even as MP3! |
| pittrek 21.06.2007 12:19 |
Well ... we'll see |
| deleted user 21.06.2007 17:39 |
i have them all in mp3 too, and they are excellent quality, and they were from a torrent with mp3 files, so they were already lossy. on the torrent there were the official tracks (lossy) and i compared them to the offical tracks from the cd. they sounded exactly the same |
| The Real Wizard 21.06.2007 23:48 |
<h5><b><font color="green">BradBjorkman wrote: i have them all in mp3 too, and they are excellent quality, and they were from a torrent with mp3 files, so they were already lossy. on the torrent there were the official tracks (lossy) and i compared them to the offical tracks from the cd. they sounded exactly the sameThen I guess your ears can't pick out the difference... or maybe you don't have high quality equipment to listen to them on. Either way, that's fine. Just don't pick bones with people who do hear it. There *is* a difference. We're all not making it up just to bug others. |
| gnomo 22.06.2007 02:50 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:<h5><b><font color="green">BradBjorkman wrote: [/QUOTENAMEWhy spread an inferior recording when a better one could be spread just as easily?... don't ask such difficult questions, please... ;-) |
| thunderbolt 31742 26.06.2007 14:05 |
<h5><b><font color="green">BradBjorkman wrote: i really wish you would all stop whining about flac if someone had a really really rare concert in a lossy format, would you let him share it?Here's the logic behind the FLAC push: You can convert FLAC to MP3 for personal use, and you lose sound quality. For many people, myself included, the difference in sound quality between a 320kpbs MP3 and a FLAC file is negligible enough that this is an acceptable tradeoff. You can convert MP3 to FLAC, but you can't restore the data that was lost. Essentially, all you're doing by making an MP3 into a FLAC is making a really, really big MP3 file, complete with the lower sound quality. If you upload FLAC files, downloaders have a choice between the lower quality and smaller file sizes or the higher quality that requires a second hard drive or *lots* of CDs. If you upload MP3s, that decision has been taken out of the downloader's hands, and they are stuck with the inferior quality file when a better version may be available. Follow the logic there? |
| The Loser In The End 26.06.2007 15:27 |
It would serve all Queen fans if there is a dedicated mp3 site and a dedicated lossless site...you can't have both together at one In the future the whole issue of flac being larger than mp3 seems silly... Do not laugh at those who take the effort to presevere lossless recordings...it's pretty hard as it is anyways... Some of us will be thankfull later... |
| Wilki Amieva 26.06.2007 23:26 |
The Loser In The End wrote:OIC. ...So you still believe the LP story. Well...Wilki Amieva wrote:That's not what BBC sessions wrote...he(she?) wrote that 'something went wrong with the transfer from LP'... So my POINT is that an LP itself is lossless...and I was just asking if BBC Sessions could extract the LP in lossless flacs (if I can do that...why can't someone else...?)The Loser In The End wrote: ...an LP is useally pretty lossless...analog even! So with the right software you can make a perfect 'lossless' A/D convertion......You're missing the WHOLE POINT here - that is that the tracks do NOT come from an LP. These are just the regular mp3s, but cut and converted to FLAC. |
| leoslayer 21.10.2009 17:42 |
hi please ca i get a seed on this thanks so much guys |
| Rick 22.10.2009 04:12 |
I used to have very clean versions of the SHA and NOTW sessions. I lost them :( |
| Ale Solan 22.10.2009 10:42 |
leoslayer wrote: hi please ca i get a seed on this thanks so much guys Have you ever read the whole thread? I'm quite sure you didn't. |
| Ale Solan 22.10.2009 10:51 |
Rick wrote: I used to have very clean versions of the SHA and NOTW sessions. I lost them :( FLAC or MP3? |
| little foetus 22.10.2009 19:13 |
See What A Fool I've Been Keep Yourself Alive Liar Son And Daughter Spread Your Wings It's Late My Melancholy Blues We Will Rock You (slow~fast) I have these ones (sessions 2 and 6) from "From The Beeb To Tokyo" bootleg. The files are lossless without any doubt and sound certainly better than the "As It Began" bootleg. Sessions 1 and 3 have been officially released on "Queen At The Beeb" and "Queen At The BBC". Session 5 is available in lossless form in the "As It Began" bootleg (while probably a bit processed). Even if the quality could be better, I don't think a better version of this session circulates. I also have some really crappy mp3s that have circulated for years on the hub but nothing else has appeared yet. Session 4 is the more problematic: - Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll is lossless on "As It Began" and I don't think a better version circulates. - The March Of The Black Queen is the same as the album version. - Nevermore and White Queen are unfortunately lossy on "As It Began" and I think unfortunately that these are the best versions that circulated. So most of the BBC sessions tracks are circulating in lossless form. I'm sure we could find better recordings of sessions 4 and 5 but the other sessions have a great sound. Obviously, the most wanted tracks are lossless versions of Nevermore and White Queen (this one is so much better than the Queen II version in my opinion...). If people want me to share the BBC sessions tracks from the "From the Beeb To Tokyo" bootleg, I'll certainly do this. |
| pittrek 23.10.2009 02:58 |
little foetus wrote: See What A Fool I've Been Keep Yourself Alive Liar Son And Daughter Spread Your Wings It's Late My Melancholy Blues We Will Rock You (slow~fast) I have these ones (sessions 2 and 6) from "From The Beeb To Tokyo" bootleg. The files are lossless without any doubt and sound certainly better than the "As It Began" bootleg. Sessions 1 and 3 have been officially released on "Queen At The Beeb" and "Queen At The BBC". Session 5 is available in lossless form in the "As It Began" bootleg (while probably a bit processed). Even if the quality could be better, I don't think a better version of this session circulates. I also have some really crappy mp3s that have circulated for years on the hub but nothing else has appeared yet. Session 4 is the more problematic: - Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll is lossless on "As It Began" and I don't think a better version circulates. - The March Of The Black Queen is the same as the album version. - Nevermore and White Queen are unfortunately lossy on "As It Began" and I think unfortunately that these are the best versions that circulated. So most of the BBC sessions tracks are circulating in lossless form. I'm sure we could find better recordings of sessions 4 and 5 but the other sessions have a great sound. Obviously, the most wanted tracks are lossless versions of Nevermore and White Queen (this one is so much better than the Queen II version in my opinion...). If people want me to share the BBC sessions tracks from the "From the Beeb To Tokyo" bootleg, I'll certainly do this. Hi, could you please share your version of Rock'n'Roll ? I have 2 versions - 1 is excellent, but mp3. The other is lossless, but with really crappy sound. Nevermore and White Queen - I have again mp3s which sound better than my flac files. Could you share you versions ? Maybe we could with joined forces create a definitive version of the BBC sessions ? |
| little foetus 23.10.2009 05:32 |
Well, my Modern Times Rock N'Roll file is basically the one which was shared in the "As It Began" topic. Is it this one which sounds crappy to your ears? |
| pittrek 23.10.2009 05:44 |
little foetus wrote: Well, my Modern Times Rock N'Roll file is basically the one which was shared in the "As It Began" topic. Is it this one which sounds crappy to your ears? I don't know, I don't remember hearing it, I have had the "Complete BBC Session 73-77" but I'm not sure about "As It Began" |
| Rick 23.10.2009 06:37 |
Alex Solan. wrote:Rick wrote: I used to have very clean versions of the SHA and NOTW sessions. I lost them :(FLAC or MP3? I believe they were lossless. Bob sent them to me some years ago (together with the pre-LP version of the Rainbow March 1974 show on 1 CD, which was still very rare at that point). If my mind serves me well, they were sourced from tapes and not from silvers. |
| The Real Wizard 23.10.2009 10:04 |
Ahh yes, I've got these somewhere... it's been years since I listened to them. It's the 1974 session with Bob Harris' commentary - but not all of it. The songs are there, but some of the commentary is edited out for some reason. Maybe there was more than one broadcast, and the later one(s) were edited? But I do have other copies of the songs with the missing commentary, but they're just mp3s. Why are some collectors still sitting on the best copies of the BBC sessions? They're not exactly the holy grail. It's 2009 folks, and nobody likes a hoarder anymore in the information age. Let's get the material out there for everyone to enjoy. Plenty has been shared for you this year (namely Boston 76 and even a Sun City 84 soundboard tape), so maybe it's time for some of these Queen collectors to chip in... |
| Mr. Scully 23.10.2009 10:27 |
Who knows who has what... for example I remember I got the NOTW sessions back in 2000 or something... in MP3 format. We didn't care about FLAC at that time. I'm sure it happened with other sessions and other collectors too. |
| The Real Wizard 23.10.2009 10:39 |
It's true... same with me. But every mp3 is sourced from a lossless version, and they can be easily located with enough effort. |
| pittrek 23.10.2009 10:47 |
There is at least one person who has the master tape copies (you all know who), but it's pretty unrealistic to get it from him. My contact who originally sent me the excellent mp3s 10 years ago is out of the business for many years and impossible to get in contact. So it looks like we gotta choose between excellent mp3s and poor lossless files |
| Rick 23.10.2009 12:14 |
Even excellent mp3s would do it for me. Really. Hearing the clean SHA session was a bliss. Anyone? :P |
| pittrek 23.10.2009 14:11 |
Rick wrote: Even excellent mp3s would do it for me. Really. Hearing the clean SHA session was a bliss. Anyone? :P I've sent you a PM |
| Ale Solan 23.10.2009 23:07 |
Sir GH wrote: (...) and even a Sun City 84 soundboard tape), so maybe it's time for some of these Queen collectors to chip in... I was wondering what happened with the 2nd part of the Sun City soundboard... did it ever surfaced? |
| pittrek 24.10.2009 06:35 |
Alex Solan. wrote:Sir GH wrote: (...) and even a Sun City 84 soundboard tape), so maybe it's time for some of these Queen collectors to chip in...I was wondering what happened with the 2nd part of the Sun City soundboard... did it ever surfaced? No |