The King Of Rhye 03.06.2007 00:41 |
well here's just a few thoughts I had while recently listening to Hot Space and more specifically, the infamous Body Language....I've heard a lot of people saying its maybe the worst thing Queen ever released....but I dont know, I dont really mind it too much.........nothing of great consequence, but semi-enjoyable, I'd say....I just wonder what different reactions people would have from it if it was on Mr Bad Guy....I know that was 3 years later, but if you think about it, Body Language practically IS a Freddie Mercury solo song, save for a few guitar licks towards the very end.......and by the way, just WHAT is so 'gay' about this song? I dont really get it from the lyrics, unless theres some sort of reference to something that I dont get...not that I'd really have a big problem if there was...... Enough rambling for now :) |
mike hunt 03.06.2007 00:53 |
it's not the worst queen song. In my opinion the worst queen songs are "fun it' and "more of that jazz" but it's obviously not the best of tunes. I think the biggest problem with body language is that it was released as the first single from hot space. If it wasn't the first single I don't think it would have been such a big deal. I'm not sure if this song sounds like a gay anthem or not. I personally don't give a shit anyway. That's for the homophobes to talk about. |
Sweetie 03.06.2007 01:51 |
^ HEY! Fun It and More Of That Jazz are awesome songs! I think Cool Cat is one of Queens worst songs... |
mike hunt 03.06.2007 03:38 |
I love the jazz album, but those two songs didn't need to be on it. Fun it is alright, but more of that jazz? |
Darren1977 03.06.2007 03:51 |
Looks like a whole can of worms has been opened about which queen songs are the worst.In my opinion there are three including the above Jazz tracks and the hideous for me Dragon Attack, oh and Get Down Make Love. Why not start a topic with the worst 10 Queen songs? |
Sweetie 03.06.2007 03:56 |
^ Dragon Attack is cool, I like being able to hear Johnny play the bass! |
YourValentine 03.06.2007 04:54 |
The song was not popular among Queen fans and not among the "general public", either. I think the reason is that 1. there was nothing remotely Rock 'n Roll left and 2. it was too suggestive for the time - the video was never played anywhere. I don't believe it was perceived as "gay" - at least I don't remember that this was much of an issue. In fact, I don't even know what a "gay" song is supposed to sound like. The third reason is of course, that it's a bad song. A bad song does not stand the test of time. While real old songs like "Killer Queen" or "Seaside Rendezvous" still sound fresh and young, Body Language sounds old, tired and sordid imo. |
bitesthedust 03.06.2007 06:22 |
It was a big hit in the U.S. though, and was a bigger hit than Tie Your Mother Down here in the UK. |
gem27 03.06.2007 07:37 |
i would have to agree with darren. body language is ok and the whole hot space album is fun to listen to. dragon attack and get down make love i really don't like. |
kdj2hot 03.06.2007 08:18 |
The King Of Rhye wrote: well here's just a few thoughts I had while recently listening to Hot Space and more specifically, the infamous Body Language....I've heard a lot of people saying its maybe the worst thing Queen ever released....but I dont know, I dont really mind it too much.........nothing of great consequence, but semi-enjoyable, I'd say....I just wonder what different reactions people would have from it if it was on Mr Bad Guy....I know that was 3 years later, but if you think about it, Body Language practically IS a Freddie Mercury solo song, save for a few guitar licks towards the very end.......and by the way, just WHAT is so 'gay' about this song? I dont really get it from the lyrics, unless theres some sort of reference to something that I dont get...not that I'd really have a big problem if there was...... Enough rambling for now :)"Staying Power" is more of a Freddie solo song than Body Language. Body Language was their last successful single in America it broke the top ten, did better than Under Pressure. |
lyricalassasin77 03.06.2007 09:42 |
The Worst Queen song is "Bicycle Race" by far...You don't know what a gay song sounds like? Listen to "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" if that's not a gay song then there isn't such a thing then....Furthermore its very common knowledge that Freddie was inspired to write "Bicycle Race" when the Tour De France passed by his Hotel he was staying in and the site of all those men in tight lycra shorts got him fired up.....LoL.....So there ya have it, 2 GAY SONGS....Peace |
Boy Thomas Raker 03.06.2007 10:56 |
1. Body Language did not break the US top 10. It hit 11 on the Billboard Top 100, the definitive guide for singles back in the day. 2. Bicycle Race the worst song in the Queen catalogue? Oh dear. Sparse instrumentation, great vocals, changing melodies, complex time signatures, a bicycle bell interlude and a guitar solo mimicing the thrust and parry of a bicycle race? All in a 3 minute single? Classic Queen. 3. Unless I don't have the version about getting your cock sucked, GOFLB is ambiguous. |
Josh Henson 03.06.2007 11:47 |
Body Language is ok, but not a good Queen song. Cool Cat and Delilah are FAR worse. Dragon Attack is friggin' awesome and Get Down Make Love is also a great song. Bicycle Race gay? WHAT? Freddie is bashing American culture there. Read the damn lyrics! GOFLB is NOT a gay anthem. If anything it is a back and forth song between the LB and his homies. That's how I perceive it. |
steven 35638 03.06.2007 11:50 |
Everybody has there own interpretation on which Queen songs are the band's worst. Therefore, it would seem senseless for us to argue over it. But for heaven's sake, Bicycle Race and Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy being "gay" songs? I can see why some people might think that, for that has even crossed my mind at one point. However, now when I think about it I find it to be quite a foolish idea. First of all, who really cares if it was written with a "gay" theme by Freddie? Those are two of his greatest compositions, and furthermore they demonstrate his ability to write in more complex time signature transitions. Besides, where does it say "this is a gay themed song?" Give me a break. Take a listen at Justin Hawkin's tongue in cheek song "Gay in the eightees." link Now, that was a gay themed song. |
brENsKi 03.06.2007 13:26 |
unfortunately HS is littered with songs that could be nominated for "worst queen song" dancer / cool cat / body language / put out the fire i agree with Mike about "more of that jazz" - very much a filler/reprise type track other notable nominees? you don't fool me delilah don't try so hard my baby does me one year of love pain is so close to pleasure machines don;t try suicide |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 03.06.2007 13:32 |
I LOVE Body Language! And I LOVE Fun It and More of That Jazz! But I really don't like Dragon Attack, All Dead, All Dead, Jesus, and some other stuff I can't think of right now. |
M e 03.06.2007 14:43 |
What are you guys talking about? Every song that Queen ever produced is the epitome of recorded music. ...Jeez |
Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 03.06.2007 14:45 |
Delilah is such a gay song, but I love it!! |
QueenTaylor 03.06.2007 14:46 |
Wembley fan86 wrote: I LOVE Body Language! And I LOVE Fun It and More of That Jazz! But I really don't like Dragon Attack, All Dead, All Dead, Jesus, and some other stuff I can't think of right now.I love all of those except for Body Language. It's ok, but I don't like it that much. |
gem27 03.06.2007 14:53 |
All Dead All Dead is great. Pure Brian at his best. I love it. |
QueenTaylor 03.06.2007 14:54 |
gemloveswembley86 wrote: All Dead All Dead is great. Pure Brian at his best. I love it.have to garee!! an amazing song!! |
bitesthedust 03.06.2007 15:08 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: unfortunately HS is littered with songs that could be nominated for "worst queen song" dancer / cool cat / body language / put out the fire i agree with Mike about "more of that jazz" - very much a filler/reprise type track other notable nominees? you don't fool me delilah don't try so hard my baby does me one year of love pain is so close to pleasure machines don;t try suicideTo add to that... Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy The Invisible Man Rain Must Fall Party Khashoggi's Ship Delilah Friends Will Be Friends |
Winter Land Man 03.06.2007 15:40 |
mike hunt wrote: it's not the worst queen song. In my opinion the worst queen songs are "fun it' and "more of that jazz" but it's obviously not the best of tunes. I think the biggest problem with body language is that it was released as the first single from hot space. If it wasn't the first single I don't think it would have been such a big deal. I'm not sure if this song sounds like a gay anthem or not. I personally don't give a shit anyway. That's for the homophobes to talk about.What do you mean if it wasn't released as the first single? It wasn't. Under Pressure was the first single and didn't do as well as Body Language. |
Winter Land Man 03.06.2007 15:42 |
YourValentine wrote: The song was not popular among Queen fans and not among the "general public", either. I think the reason is that 1. there was nothing remotely Rock 'n Roll left and 2. it was too suggestive for the time - the video was never played anywhere. I don't believe it was perceived as "gay" - at least I don't remember that this was much of an issue. In fact, I don't even know what a "gay" song is supposed to sound like. The third reason is of course, that it's a bad song. A bad song does not stand the test of time. While real old songs like "Killer Queen" or "Seaside Rendezvous" still sound fresh and young, Body Language sounds old, tired and sordid imo.Maybe in Germany, but here in the USA, if it wasn't popular amumg the public, why would it reach #11? |
Boy Thomas Raker 03.06.2007 17:25 |
Body Language was the first single in the US and Canada. Under Pressure was released when it was on Greatest Hits, so that doesn't count as a HS release. |
steven 35638 03.06.2007 18:23 |
Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but how can anyone name a Queen song as their worst? Of course you're going to find Queen songs that "you" don't enjoy personally, but to call them out because you don't like them? That's a load of crap. Also, don't forget that not all Queen songs were put out as singles, therefore the songs that weren't hand selected to shine can't be judged. If you don't like those, then that is your opinion. There is no sense in saying "that is the worst Queen song ever," because you don't have that right. |
sparrow 21754 03.06.2007 20:16 |
dragon attack is probably my favorite instrumental song by them. but as for lyrics? they could be a little better, but the song is so dominant with instruments that lyrics almost dont fit... and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting. theres a few queen songs like that. im even having trouble with my own stuff as i speak for that matter. i have instrumental parts wrtten out in my head but i have a hard time applying lyrics to them, and ultimatly will probably sound crappy at first but theres always time to improve. so since people probably didnt read what i just said, in a nutshell: somethings are forced to sound 'complete' when ultamitly, theres some elements that are fine if left alone or some need more time to fit. |
Winter Land Man 03.06.2007 21:07 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: Body Language was the first single in the US and Canada. Under Pressure was released when it was on Greatest Hits, so that doesn't count as a HS release.Are you sure? I think billboard has it listed as a '81 single. Canada did have a '82 release but I think USA had an '81 release... |
steven 35638 03.06.2007 22:29 |
Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. |
thunderbolt 31742 03.06.2007 22:35 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: unfortunately HS is littered with songs that could be nominated for "worst queen song" dancer / cool cat / body language / put out the fireI'll give you all of those except "Put Out the Fire." I love that song--great vocals by Brian, great rock 'n roll feel (on an album that sadly lacked it), and just pure energy on the track. I'm not a fan of Hot Space, but in general, Side A is more painful than Side B. Two of Queen's best songs came off of the album, in my opinion: "Las Palabras de Amor" and "Under Pressure." "Body Language"...eh, not Queen's worst, but pretty close to it. I can only think of two or three songs off the top of my head that I skip over more often. |
mike hunt 04.06.2007 01:06 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote:I thought under pressure was released as a single before the HS album was finished, so body language would be the first real single from the album. I could be wrong. Another song I think is horrible is the roger tune "don't lose your head." Bicycle races, good old fashion lover boy are classic queen. Pure genious, also dragon attack is awsome. I'm surprised to see these classic tunes mentioned in this discussion.mike hunt wrote: it's not the worst queen song. In my opinion the worst queen songs are "fun it' and "more of that jazz" but it's obviously not the best of tunes. I think the biggest problem with body language is that it was released as the first single from hot space. If it wasn't the first single I don't think it would have been such a big deal. I'm not sure if this song sounds like a gay anthem or not. I personally don't give a shit anyway. That's for the homophobes to talk about.What do you mean if it wasn't released as the first single? It wasn't. Under Pressure was the first single and didn't do as well as Body Language. |
louvox 04.06.2007 11:19 |
It's just a plain crappy funk/techno song recorded with no inspiration, soul or heart. Take Freddie's voice of that and you wouldn't be able to tell it apart from any other crappy song from that time. It hard to imagine that the same person who gave us "Bo-rap" also gave us this pile of shit. |
steven 35638 04.06.2007 11:28 |
I wouldn't call it shit, but that's your opinion. |
brENsKi 04.06.2007 12:54 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but how can anyone name a Queen song as their worst? Of course you're going to find Queen songs that "you" don't enjoy personally, but to call them out because you don't like them? That's a load of crap. Also, don't forget that not all Queen songs were put out as singles, therefore the songs that weren't hand selected to shine can't be judged. If you don't like those, then that is your opinion. There is no sense in saying "that is the worst Queen song ever," because you don't have that right.of course they can all be judged...as good SONGS or bad SONGS (not singles) there's nothing wrong with healyth opinion...it'd be very sad and tedious of everyone on here liked every queen song...and anyhow...that's impossible and "worst queen song" is a subjective discussion.,...and full of merit...there is no earthly reason why we all should have a "worst few queen songs" - they had to make a few duff ones... or are we all turning into ....queen-arse-licking shoe-shining, cap doffing sychophants now?....c'mon accept that they blew bigtime occasionally...it's easy. it's the shitters that make songs like "nevermore" (imo) the gems they are... before you shoot me down again....consider this... ok, every week you eat in the same restaurant - and every week the food is excellent, then one week it's not so good....you'd tell them wouldn't you? - same here...sometimes the queen banquet was just palatable...on occasion it made me spew |
Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 04.06.2007 13:18 |
<font color=maroon>bitesthedust wrote:Ok, I get Party. I get Delilah (for some reason). I even get Friends Will Be Friends. BUT THE INVISIBLE MAN!?<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: unfortunately HS is littered with songs that could be nominated for "worst queen song" dancer / cool cat / body language / put out the fire i agree with Mike about "more of that jazz" - very much a filler/reprise type track other notable nominees? you don't fool me delilah don't try so hard my baby does me one year of love pain is so close to pleasure machines don;t try suicideTo add to that... Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy The Invisible Man Rain Must Fall Party Khashoggi's Ship Delilah Friends Will Be Friends |
steven 35638 04.06.2007 13:43 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: ....queen-arse-licking shoe-shining, cap doffing sychophants now?....WTF? |
Micrówave 04.06.2007 16:22 |
So plenty of people like it and plenty of people don't. My problem with the lot of you haters is this: You call it a "crappy song" or a "worst album". I've listened to some of the fan songs and covers here. So far no one has even come close. So Louvox, Brenski, lyricalassasin_77, etc., please let me know which section I can find your albums in because they must be the greatest records ever made. Or maybe you personally just don't like the song. I just doubt you're qualified to call it crap. |
Winter Land Man 04.06.2007 16:32 |
Thunderbolt<br><h6>Courtesy of God wrote:I never heard Put Out The Fire with Brian singing it.<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: unfortunately HS is littered with songs that could be nominated for "worst queen song" dancer / cool cat / body language / put out the fireI'll give you all of those except "Put Out the Fire." I love that song--great vocals by Brian, great rock 'n roll feel (on an album that sadly lacked it), and just pure energy on the track. I'm not a fan of Hot Space, but in general, Side A is more painful than Side B. Two of Queen's best songs came off of the album, in my opinion: "Las Palabras de Amor" and "Under Pressure." "Body Language"...eh, not Queen's worst, but pretty close to it. I can only think of two or three songs off the top of my head that I skip over more often. |
steven 35638 04.06.2007 17:06 |
This topic is getting so old...here we go again... The album was a major flop, it didn't bring the band justice generally speaking. However, it was still the old traditional Queen style of experimenting with different styles of music. You either love it or you hate it...I happen to appreciate it for what it is, a work of art. The album seperates itself from all the others. It is very unique and therefore should be looked upon as an experimental work of art. I'm sure Queen knew they were taking a major risk, but they were the kind of guys who didn't give a crap. They were already major influences in rock and roll, so what did they have to lose? People in America are still very knowledgeable of Queen's existence. It's a load of crap to say that America "hates" Queen and have forgotten about them. The way I see it is that they were outragious, flamboyant, exciting, surprising, and an overall stand out group of musicians. So they screwed up in 1982, but it didn't kill them. They stood strong and still managed to release quality hits in 1984 and onward. You have to respect them for their courage. |
kdj2hot 04.06.2007 17:27 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: The Worst Queen song is "Bicycle Race" by far...You don't know what a gay song sounds like? Listen to "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" if that's not a gay song then there isn't such a thing then....Furthermore its very common knowledge that Freddie was inspired to write "Bicycle Race" when the Tour De France passed by his Hotel he was staying in and the site of all those men in tight lycra shorts got him fired up.....LoL.....So there ya have it, 2 GAY SONGS....PeaceSo it's a bad song because it's gay... you're a moron. A gay song is Menergy by Patrick Cowley or Do You Wanna Funk by Sylvester and Patrick Cowley. Goold Old Fashioned Lover boy is just what someone like you would call "Old timey" not really gay. Was everyone in the 20's and 30's who weren't bootlegging liquor gay? Again I state that you're a moron. |
kdj2hot 04.06.2007 17:33 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: Body Language was the first single in the US and Canada. Under Pressure was released when it was on Greatest Hits, so that doesn't count as a HS release.Under Pressure didnt break the top 20, Body Language hovered just below the top ten and was released after Under Pressure. It doesn't make it a better song it's just a fact. I thought Body Language hit #9 but I won't argue with you if you say 11 but it was more successful than every other Queen single released after it (in the USA), that's a fact. I say that's due more than Queen not being out touring creating word of mouth (when you tour and you're playing in front of let's say 25,000 people atleast half of them will be curious about the latest single and of that half a third may buy it just based on a good show. Multiply that by 50 or so stops in a USA tour and you have pretty good sales. Those are conservative numbers. Now touring hurt Queen big time, even if they wouldve played slightly smaller venues.) |
mike hunt 05.06.2007 00:40 |
kdj2hot wrote:A moron?...I think he's a bit ignorant to the 20's sound. A lot of his 70's songs have that 20's feel to them, and GOFL was one of those. It's very british. Have you ever seen the benny hill show?...it has the same humor. I love it!lyricalassasin_77 wrote: The Worst Queen song is "Bicycle Race" by far...You don't know what a gay song sounds like? Listen to "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" if that's not a gay song then there isn't such a thing then....Furthermore its very common knowledge that Freddie was inspired to write "Bicycle Race" when the Tour De France passed by his Hotel he was staying in and the site of all those men in tight lycra shorts got him fired up.....LoL.....So there ya have it, 2 GAY SONGS....PeaceSo it's a bad song because it's gay... you're a moron. A gay song is Menergy by Patrick Cowley or Do You Wanna Funk by Sylvester and Patrick Cowley. Goold Old Fashioned Lover boy is just what someone like you would call "Old timey" not really gay. Was everyone in the 20's and 30's who weren't bootlegging liquor gay? Again I state that you're a moron. |
thunderbolt 31742 05.06.2007 02:12 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote: I never heard Put Out The Fire with Brian singing it.And now I feel dumb. All the dozens of times I've heard POTF, I've thought it was Brian on lead vocals for at least the first verse. After you said that, I listened again, and noticed vocal inflections that could only belong to Freddie. (wearing the dunce cap) |
sparrow 21754 05.06.2007 22:19 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:...i asked this question a while ago and it ended up in flames :-p i never found out what the truth of the song was so i assumed it was made in the 90s. sorry if im wrong. nonetheless, i still stick with my theory that there wasnt alot of thought put into the lyrics because the instrumental was so prominent. just a thought.Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. |
steven 35638 05.06.2007 23:50 |
Sparrow wrote:Actually, if I recall correctly most of those songs on the Made in Heaven album were already recorded, that being Freddie's vocals. The others reworked the songs and made them fresh. However, if Freddie's vocals were already recorded in the early eightees then the lyrics must have been written in the early eightees! I could be wrong, but I know for a fact that You Don't Fool Me was a rejected or unfinished song that could have been on the Hot Space album.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:...i asked this question a while ago and it ended up in flames :-p i never found out what the truth of the song was so i assumed it was made in the 90s. sorry if im wrong. nonetheless, i still stick with my theory that there wasnt alot of thought put into the lyrics because the instrumental was so prominent. just a thought.Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. Although that is merely a speculation and not a proven fact, it is a pretty damn good theory. Oh yes...if any of you have something to contribute would you be as so kind as to enlighten us? We want facts and maybe a few speculations/interpretations. |
Matteus 06.06.2007 11:55 |
Bad or not, (and if Wikipedia is correct) this song was one of Freddie's biggest hits in the 80s: #3 (Canada) #5 (Spain) #6 (Netherlands) #10 (Sweden) #11 (Austria; US) That's pretty darn good. |
Vincent. 06.06.2007 13:29 |
I quite like Body Language. :/ And one Queen song that I really don't like is One Year of Love. It's probably my least favorite. It's not such a bad song...It's just kind of cheesy to me. :P But Bicycle Race and Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy are two of my favorites. I don't think they are gay in the least. =] |
Winter Land Man 06.06.2007 15:16 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:People read the things about paragraphs in the Greatest Hits III info thingy... and it says "harks back to Hot Space era" which does NOT mean it's from Hot Space or that era, it means it's remincense of it, influenced? In the same class at least of dance music.Sparrow wrote:Actually, if I recall correctly most of those songs on the Made in Heaven album were already recorded, that being Freddie's vocals. The others reworked the songs and made them fresh. However, if Freddie's vocals were already recorded in the early eightees then the lyrics must have been written in the early eightees! I could be wrong, but I know for a fact that You Don't Fool Me was a rejected or unfinished song that could have been on the Hot Space album. Although that is merely a speculation and not a proven fact, it is a pretty damn good theory. Oh yes...if any of you have something to contribute would you be as so kind as to enlighten us? We want facts and maybe a few speculations/interpretations.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:...i asked this question a while ago and it ended up in flames :-p i never found out what the truth of the song was so i assumed it was made in the 90s. sorry if im wrong. nonetheless, i still stick with my theory that there wasnt alot of thought put into the lyrics because the instrumental was so prominent. just a thought.Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. link <-- read that, someone wrote it better than I can, and it's true Brian May has said You Don't Fool Me is one of the last songs recorded while Freddie was alive. |
louvox 06.06.2007 15:28 |
Matteus wrote: Bad or not, (and if Wikipedia is correct) this song was one of Freddie's biggest hits in the 80s: #3 (Canada) #5 (Spain) #6 (Netherlands) #10 (Sweden) #11 (Austria; US) That's pretty darn good.Just because it had chart success doesn't make it good song. So it proves nothing. |
brENsKi 06.06.2007 18:08 |
Micrówave wrote: So plenty of people like it and plenty of people don't. My problem with the lot of you haters is this: You call it a "crappy song" or a "worst album". I've listened to some of the fan songs and covers here. So far no one has even come close. So Louvox, Brenski, lyricalassasin_77, etc., please let me know which section I can find your albums in because they must be the greatest records ever made. Or maybe you personally just don't like the song. I just doubt you're qualified to call it crap.if you go and watch your favourite football team play - you don't need to be a top-rated footballer yourself to judge whether their performance on the pitch was good or bad...you can tell...your eyes can see this ...just the same with music...it's easy....as a music-buyer i have every right to voice my opinion over what i feel is good and bad opinion is subjective...you are talking utter rubbish |
sparrow 21754 06.06.2007 19:24 |
.*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote:i wasnt trying to show off with facts i may or may not know. i usually make a disclaimer that i paraphrase on something i remembered being said. in fact, i was making a speculation on the possibility of the thought process behind songs. i said about freddies condition because it was an assumption from a previous question asked and never answered, if someone was offended by that then.....whatever. and the obvious possible 'condition' that freddie had was his problem with nodes (that i DO know he had, and is a fact)....<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:People read the things about paragraphs in the Greatest Hits III info thingy... and it says "harks back to Hot Space era" which does NOT mean it's from Hot Space or that era, it means it's remincense of it, influenced? In the same class at least of dance music. link <-- read that, someone wrote it better than I can, and it's true Brian May has said You Don't Fool Me is one of the last songs recorded while Freddie was alive.Sparrow wrote:Actually, if I recall correctly most of those songs on the Made in Heaven album were already recorded, that being Freddie's vocals. The others reworked the songs and made them fresh. However, if Freddie's vocals were already recorded in the early eightees then the lyrics must have been written in the early eightees! I could be wrong, but I know for a fact that You Don't Fool Me was a rejected or unfinished song that could have been on the Hot Space album. Although that is merely a speculation and not a proven fact, it is a pretty damn good theory. Oh yes...if any of you have something to contribute would you be as so kind as to enlighten us? We want facts and maybe a few speculations/interpretations.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:...i asked this question a while ago and it ended up in flames :-p i never found out what the truth of the song was so i assumed it was made in the 90s. sorry if im wrong. nonetheless, i still stick with my theory that there wasnt alot of thought put into the lyrics because the instrumental was so prominent. just a thought.Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. maybe throughout my posts i shouldve been clearer using the words 'probably' or 'possibly'. im not one to call out on dates or times. besides, jake pyndle just said what has been 'enlightening' |
kdj2hot 06.06.2007 23:27 |
Sparrow wrote:Thats a good point about the GH III booklet, that may be where the Hot Space era thing came from. Even though I was under the impression that it was written during Hot Space but not used and recorded (or possibly rerecorded???) during the last sessions Freddie made which are now known as the Made in Heaven sessions..*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote:i wasnt trying to show off with facts i may or may not know. i usually make a disclaimer that i paraphrase on something i remembered being said. in fact, i was making a speculation on the possibility of the thought process behind songs. i said about freddies condition because it was an assumption from a previous question asked and never answered, if someone was offended by that then.....whatever. and the obvious possible 'condition' that freddie had was his problem with nodes (that i DO know he had, and is a fact).... maybe throughout my posts i shouldve been clearer using the words 'probably' or 'possibly'. im not one to call out on dates or times. besides, jake pyndle just said what has been 'enlightening'<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:People read the things about paragraphs in the Greatest Hits III info thingy... and it says "harks back to Hot Space era" which does NOT mean it's from Hot Space or that era, it means it's remincense of it, influenced? In the same class at least of dance music. link <-- read that, someone wrote it better than I can, and it's true Brian May has said You Don't Fool Me is one of the last songs recorded while Freddie was alive.Sparrow wrote:Actually, if I recall correctly most of those songs on the Made in Heaven album were already recorded, that being Freddie's vocals. The others reworked the songs and made them fresh. However, if Freddie's vocals were already recorded in the early eightees then the lyrics must have been written in the early eightees! I could be wrong, but I know for a fact that You Don't Fool Me was a rejected or unfinished song that could have been on the Hot Space album. Although that is merely a speculation and not a proven fact, it is a pretty damn good theory. Oh yes...if any of you have something to contribute would you be as so kind as to enlighten us? We want facts and maybe a few speculations/interpretations.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:...i asked this question a while ago and it ended up in flames :-p i never found out what the truth of the song was so i assumed it was made in the 90s. sorry if im wrong. nonetheless, i still stick with my theory that there wasnt alot of thought put into the lyrics because the instrumental was so prominent. just a thought.Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. |
The King Of Rhye 07.06.2007 02:09 |
the thing about BL being "gay"..........like I said personally I dont see it, but I've read things here and there saying that sorta thing......but maybe its just a case of people not knowing what the hell they are talking about.....like the All Music Guide reviewer calling We Are The Champions "a gay anthem"...... |
The King Of Rhye 07.06.2007 02:12 |
Wembley fan86 wrote: I LOVE Body Language! And I LOVE Fun It and More of That Jazz! But I really don't like Dragon Attack, All Dead, All Dead, Jesus, and some other stuff I can't think of right now.Heh.......I love Dragon Attack and All Dead All Dead.....Jesus is OK (actually the De Lane Lea demo version is awesome! check that one out if you havent yet, its worth finding!) |
steven 35638 07.06.2007 06:27 |
kdj2hot wrote:Oh, so that's where I heard it from...sorry about that guys. I knew I recalled it from somewhere and was almost positive, and in fact I was positive, that You Don't Fool Me was a rejected song for Hot Space. Oh well, I learned something new and for that I'm grateful. Thanks for pointing that out, Jake. Much appreciated!Sparrow wrote:Thats a good point about the GH III booklet, that may be where the Hot Space era thing came from. Even though I was under the impression that it was written during Hot Space but not used and recorded (or possibly rerecorded???) during the last sessions Freddie made which are now known as the Made in Heaven sessions..*.Messenger: Jake Pyndle.*. wrote:i wasnt trying to show off with facts i may or may not know. i usually make a disclaimer that i paraphrase on something i remembered being said. in fact, i was making a speculation on the possibility of the thought process behind songs. i said about freddies condition because it was an assumption from a previous question asked and never answered, if someone was offended by that then.....whatever. and the obvious possible 'condition' that freddie had was his problem with nodes (that i DO know he had, and is a fact).... maybe throughout my posts i shouldve been clearer using the words 'probably' or 'possibly'. im not one to call out on dates or times. besides, jake pyndle just said what has been 'enlightening'<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:People read the things about paragraphs in the Greatest Hits III info thingy... and it says "harks back to Hot Space era" which does NOT mean it's from Hot Space or that era, it means it's remincense of it, influenced? In the same class at least of dance music. link <-- read that, someone wrote it better than I can, and it's true Brian May has said You Don't Fool Me is one of the last songs recorded while Freddie was alive.Sparrow wrote:Actually, if I recall correctly most of those songs on the Made in Heaven album were already recorded, that being Freddie's vocals. The others reworked the songs and made them fresh. However, if Freddie's vocals were already recorded in the early eightees then the lyrics must have been written in the early eightees! I could be wrong, but I know for a fact that You Don't Fool Me was a rejected or unfinished song that could have been on the Hot Space album. Although that is merely a speculation and not a proven fact, it is a pretty damn good theory. Oh yes...if any of you have something to contribute would you be as so kind as to enlighten us? We want facts and maybe a few speculations/interpretations.<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:...i asked this question a while ago and it ended up in flames :-p i never found out what the truth of the song was so i assumed it was made in the 90s. sorry if im wrong. nonetheless, i still stick with my theory that there wasnt alot of thought put into the lyrics because the instrumental was so prominent. just a thought.Sparrow wrote: and you dont fool me? i love that song. i think the fact that it sounded rushed (obviously with freddies condition) to be created there wasnt a huge amount of thought in lyrics. there was the instrumental, and a tune for lyrics, but he probably didnt have an easy time coming up with something fitting.I don't believe You Don't Fool Me was composed in the 90s. I recall it being written during the Hot space sessions. |
lyricalassasin77 07.06.2007 09:12 |
mike hunt wrote:Yes GAY you dumbfuck. Looks like I affended a MAJOR PETER PUFFER. Just cuz you like sucking dick to that particular Queen song doesn't mean you have to force your will on others you faggot fuck...DISMISSEDkdj2hot wrote:A moron?...I think he's a bit ignorant to the 20's sound. A lot of his 70's songs have that 20's feel to them, and GOFL was one of those. It's very british. Have you ever seen the benny hill show?...it has the same humor. I love it!lyricalassasin_77 wrote: The Worst Queen song is "Bicycle Race" by far...You don't know what a gay song sounds like? Listen to "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" if that's not a gay song then there isn't such a thing then....Furthermore its very common knowledge that Freddie was inspired to write "Bicycle Race" when the Tour De France passed by his Hotel he was staying in and the site of all those men in tight lycra shorts got him fired up.....LoL.....So there ya have it, 2 GAY SONGS....PeaceSo it's a bad song because it's gay... you're a moron. A gay song is Menergy by Patrick Cowley or Do You Wanna Funk by Sylvester and Patrick Cowley. Goold Old Fashioned Lover boy is just what someone like you would call "Old timey" not really gay. Was everyone in the 20's and 30's who weren't bootlegging liquor gay? Again I state that you're a moron. |
Micrówave 07.06.2007 12:57 |
<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:I guess that makes two of us. So no album, eh? Then you simply "don't like" it. Ok. I always thought YOU might be John Deacon posting under this name, so I was trying to dig. But then you called Hot Space crap. Sorry, my bad.Micrówave wrote: So Louvox, Brenski, lyricalassasin_77, etc., please let me know which section I can find your albums in because they must be the greatest records ever made.opinion is subjective...you are talking utter rubbish |
reeddr 07.06.2007 19:06 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: Body Language was the first single in the US and Canada. Under Pressure was released when it was on Greatest Hits, so that doesn't count as a HS release. Are you sure? I think billboard has it listed as a '81 single. Canada did have a '82 release but I think USA had an '81 release... Yes, "Under Pressure" was released on the USA version of Greatest Hits in 1981. I remember being a little dissapointed when I say this 1982's "Hot Space" since it had already been released and I figured they wer ejust trying to pad the album for more time. |
steven 35638 08.06.2007 11:49 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote:I'm sure many people on Queenzone might take "offense" to some of the things you just said. For example, "you faggot fuck." You can fight and bitch at each other all you want, but the use of degrading terms should be kept to a minimum.mike hunt wrote:Yes GAY you dumbfuck. Looks like I affended a MAJOR PETER PUFFER. Just cuz you like sucking dick to that particular Queen song doesn't mean you have to force your will on others you faggot fuck...DISMISSEDkdj2hot wrote:A moron?...I think he's a bit ignorant to the 20's sound. A lot of his 70's songs have that 20's feel to them, and GOFL was one of those. It's very british. Have you ever seen the benny hill show?...it has the same humor. I love it!lyricalassasin_77 wrote: The Worst Queen song is "Bicycle Race" by far...You don't know what a gay song sounds like? Listen to "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" if that's not a gay song then there isn't such a thing then....Furthermore its very common knowledge that Freddie was inspired to write "Bicycle Race" when the Tour De France passed by his Hotel he was staying in and the site of all those men in tight lycra shorts got him fired up.....LoL.....So there ya have it, 2 GAY SONGS....PeaceSo it's a bad song because it's gay... you're a moron. A gay song is Menergy by Patrick Cowley or Do You Wanna Funk by Sylvester and Patrick Cowley. Goold Old Fashioned Lover boy is just what someone like you would call "Old timey" not really gay. Was everyone in the 20's and 30's who weren't bootlegging liquor gay? Again I state that you're a moron. |
brENsKi 09.06.2007 11:09 |
Micrówave wrote:you snip the main point i made - and quote the last line - completely out of context - to try make a point....now your opinion looks dafter<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:I guess that makes two of us. So no album, eh? Then you simply "don't like" it. Ok. I always thought YOU might be John Deacon posting under this name, so I was trying to dig. But then you called Hot Space crap. Sorry, my bad.Micrówave wrote: So Louvox, Brenski, lyricalassasin_77, etc., please let me know which section I can find your albums in because they must be the greatest records ever made.opinion is subjective...you are talking utter rubbish what i actually said was: +++++++++++++++++++++ if you go and watch your favourite football team play - you don't need to be a top-rated footballer yourself to judge whether their performance on the pitch was good or bad...you can tell...your eyes can see this ...just the same with music...it's easy....as a music-buyer i have every right to voice my opinion over what i feel is good and bad opinion is subjective...you are talking utter rubbish +++++++++++++++++++++ perhaps you'd care to respond in an adult manner? |
mike hunt 10.06.2007 02:39 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote:Your 29 years old?...I feel sorry for you!...People who say these things are usually the one's who are confused about their own sexuality, and are scared about feelings they might have about the same sex. I'm not angry or anything, but I pity people like you.mike hunt wrote:Yes GAY you dumbfuck. Looks like I affended a MAJOR PETER PUFFER. Just cuz you like sucking dick to that particular Queen song doesn't mean you have to force your will on others you faggot fuck...DISMISSEDkdj2hot wrote:A moron?...I think he's a bit ignorant to the 20's sound. A lot of his 70's songs have that 20's feel to them, and GOFL was one of those. It's very british. Have you ever seen the benny hill show?...it has the same humor. I love it!lyricalassasin_77 wrote: The Worst Queen song is "Bicycle Race" by far...You don't know what a gay song sounds like? Listen to "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" if that's not a gay song then there isn't such a thing then....Furthermore its very common knowledge that Freddie was inspired to write "Bicycle Race" when the Tour De France passed by his Hotel he was staying in and the site of all those men in tight lycra shorts got him fired up.....LoL.....So there ya have it, 2 GAY SONGS....PeaceSo it's a bad song because it's gay... you're a moron. A gay song is Menergy by Patrick Cowley or Do You Wanna Funk by Sylvester and Patrick Cowley. Goold Old Fashioned Lover boy is just what someone like you would call "Old timey" not really gay. Was everyone in the 20's and 30's who weren't bootlegging liquor gay? Again I state that you're a moron. |
Sweetie 10.06.2007 08:00 |
I'm listening to Body Language now... |
steven 35638 10.06.2007 10:07 |
mike hunt wrote: Your 29 years old?...I feel sorry for you!...People who say these things are usually the one's who are confused about their own sexuality, and are scared about feelings they might have about the same sex. I'm not angry or anything, but I pity people like you.You are no better than the man you criticize. That was one of the most obnoxious things I've ever read. You're a father right? Well, in that case I'm sure you wouldn't want your son or daughter to hear/read you talk that way about somebody...that is regardless of how much of a jerk the other person is. There is a point where you should just let things go and be the bigger man. I sincerely hope you change your ways. |
lyricalassasin77 10.06.2007 12:15 |
Ha Ha Ha Ha....What a fool...If somebody is going to come at me sideways then I'm gonna give it back to them 10 fold, that's just how it is. If that affends you Mike Hunt then maybe you need to find another hobby. I find it funny that the logic you use is because I used the words I did to retort you think in someway that I'm a closet homo or something...LoL...What a sorry comeback......Peace |
kdj2hot 10.06.2007 14:32 |
<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote:First of all Mike didnt say anything offensive. Whats with the attack? Thats true the dude obviously have issues with homosexuals accusing mike hunt of being one and thats usually an indication of being insecure with your own heterosexuality to attack individuals as gay. Thats basic psychology, nothing complicated I'm sure the guy has gay issues and probably masturbates to shemales...now thats a comment you can call immature, not what mike hunt said.mike hunt wrote: Your 29 years old?...I feel sorry for you!...People who say these things are usually the one's who are confused about their own sexuality, and are scared about feelings they might have about the same sex. I'm not angry or anything, but I pity people like you.You are no better than the man you criticize. That was one of the most obnoxious things I've ever read. You're a father right? Well, in that case I'm sure you wouldn't want your son or daughter to hear/read you talk that way about somebody...that is regardless of how much of a jerk the other person is. There is a point where you should just let things go and be the bigger man. I sincerely hope you change your ways. |
kdj2hot 10.06.2007 14:33 |
lol double post |
kdj2hot 10.06.2007 14:33 |
just my humble opinion. |
steven 35638 10.06.2007 18:24 |
kdj2hot wrote: just my humble opinion.That's cool...I just thought that some homosexuals might have gone through what he insinuated, therefore they might have taken offense. I know I would have. |
lyricalassasin77 11.06.2007 08:25 |
kdj2hot wrote: just my humble opinion.How about you take your psychology and shove it up your ass. As much as you may want to recruit more queer's you won't find no such luck here. There are plenty of people who hate homosexuals and have no hidden tendencies as you like to call out. I guess I like things up my ass too just because I told you where to put your idiotic statements.....He likes songs that insinuate gayness because if he didn't he wouldn't have gotten into such an uproar about my opinion and called me a "Moron"....Sorry dude "Good Ol Fashioned Loverboy" and "Bicycle Race" are gay ass songs as far as I'm concerned, and as I said before if you like beatin off to them both that's your business but your not going to convince me that they are not when I've done given detailed reason's for why they both are....You'd have better luck trying to catch lightning in a bottle than you will trying to convert me to your stupid ass pandering....Find something else to comment on cuz your way outmatched here....Later Cunt |
Micrówave 11.06.2007 17:12 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote: I guess I like things up my ass tooWell, OK. |
mike hunt 11.06.2007 23:53 |
lyricalassasin_77 wrote:Thank you for making my point!....The one thing I can't stand is a bigot.kdj2hot wrote: just my humble opinion.How about you take your psychology and shove it up your ass. As much as you may want to recruit more queer's you won't find no such luck here. There are plenty of people who hate homosexuals and have no hidden tendencies as you like to call out. I guess I like things up my ass too just because I told you where to put your idiotic statements.....He likes songs that insinuate gayness because if he didn't he wouldn't have gotten into such an uproar about my opinion and called me a "Moron"....Sorry dude "Good Ol Fashioned Loverboy" and "Bicycle Race" are gay ass songs as far as I'm concerned, and as I said before if you like beatin off to them both that's your business but your not going to convince me that they are not when I've done given detailed reason's for why they both are....You'd have better luck trying to catch lightning in a bottle than you will trying to convert me to your stupid ass pandering....Find something else to comment on cuz your way outmatched here....Later Cunt |
lyricalassasin77 12.06.2007 08:01 |
mike hunt wrote:LoL....and the one thing I can't stand is a cocksucker....Which you seem to excel out with your blind defense of the gay anthems you so passionatley seem to love and defend...lyricalassasin_77 wrote:Thank you for making my point!....The one thing I can't stand is a bigot.kdj2hot wrote: just my humble opinion.How about you take your psychology and shove it up your ass. As much as you may want to recruit more queer's you won't find no such luck here. There are plenty of people who hate homosexuals and have no hidden tendencies as you like to call out. I guess I like things up my ass too just because I told you where to put your idiotic statements.....He likes songs that insinuate gayness because if he didn't he wouldn't have gotten into such an uproar about my opinion and called me a "Moron"....Sorry dude "Good Ol Fashioned Loverboy" and "Bicycle Race" are gay ass songs as far as I'm concerned, and as I said before if you like beatin off to them both that's your business but your not going to convince me that they are not when I've done given detailed reason's for why they both are....You'd have better luck trying to catch lightning in a bottle than you will trying to convert me to your stupid ass pandering....Find something else to comment on cuz your way outmatched here....Later Cunt |