QueenZone discussion #1003012

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: Valensia At least The Darkness and Mika write original songs

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Valensia's the only one that can actually sound like Queen. But then again, Mika is not a Queen ripoff. The Darkness just stole a few riffs, and Valensia stole the sound.

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Valensia's the only one that can actually sound like Queen. But then again, Mika is not a Queen ripoff. The Darkness just stole a few riffs, and Valensia stole the sound.

Why do you want to sound like Queen? Isn't it more challanging to make your own sound?

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Valensia's the only one that can actually sound like Queen. But then again, Mika is not a Queen ripoff. The Darkness just stole a few riffs, and Valensia stole the sound.

Why do you want to sound like Queen? Isn't it more challanging to make your own sound?

CMU HistoryGirl wrote:

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Valensia's the only one that can actually sound like Queen. But then again, Mika is not a Queen ripoff. The Darkness just stole a few riffs, and Valensia stole the sound.

Why do you want to sound like Queen? Isn't it more challanging to make your own sound?

HA HA! Brilliant!!! And so true, by the way. This is why Valensia is not a complex artists, though his songs may be technically complex...it's still just a copy in the end, which makes it simple.

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Ok, now we're talking bullshit. A performer but not an artist?? WHAT AN INSULT!! Elvis never wrote a single fucking song in his life, then he is not an artist? For fuck's sake!! And I must ask, what did you listen of Valens' stuff? Did you listen to all of his 9 records plus the 2 V albums? I don't think so. So go to listen, and then come back and tell me if he always copies Queen. Can't think of a Queen song like The Polka or Thunderbolt.

CMU HistoryGirl wrote:

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Ok, now we're talking bullshit. A performer but not an artist?? WHAT AN INSULT!! Elvis never wrote a single fucking song in his life, then he is not an artist? For fuck's sake!! And I must ask, what did you listen of Valens' stuff? Did you listen to all of his 9 records plus the 2 V albums? I don't think so. So go to listen, and then come back and tell me if he always copies Queen. Can't think of a Queen song like The Polka or Thunderbolt.

Yes, a performer...not an artist. Elvis wasn't one either. I realize I'll probably be flamed for saying that, but oh well. Performers are amazing, but if you can't come up with one creative song that is completely your own, no "borrowing" from anyone else, then you are merely a performer, though you may write songs. It was a stretch to say that he "always" copies Queen..."always" is a dangerous word to use. But since he has copied them in the past, then, at best he is a good performer, and a mediocre artist. Be original, for once, and come up with something original that is all your own. That's what makes a great artist.

Boy Thomas Raker wrote: "And Mika... well fuck. Good at what he does, and only very young... give him a chance to develop." Well put, Zebonka. I'd hazard a guess that the majority of people hear who have flamed Mika have done so because of the line "so I tried a little Freddie", and thought "Freddie clone!" Actually, the song is about the difficulty of trying to establish yourself in the bullshit world of music, and he "tried a little Freddie" because he was unsure of what he should be to people in the industry. The song is a total fuck you to the music industry, so good on him for that. I think that Mika obviously is heavily influenced by Freddie, and that shows in his playing and the affectation on his vocals, but I'm pretty sure Freddie was influenced by people like Liza Minelli and Robert Plant so it's not like Freddie was Freddie on the first Queen album. Give Mika time, he may suck, he may have a great career, but let him stand on his own without having to slam him for trying to be like someone else.

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Boy Thomas Raker wrote: I've heard both stories, Fred Astaire and Freddie Mercury, although I've never, ever heard Fred Astaire referred to as Freddie, and I'm as old as dirt. Nonetheless, in his video he does the Freddie move with the imaginary mic over his head after he sings that line. The connection is there, and he's been compared to Freddie (Mercury, not Astaire) ;)in scores of interviews. Give him time to grow and we'll see what he's made of.

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: If Mika has said, Its Freddie Mercury............................then why would it be about any one else???????????????????????????????????

Zebonka12 wrote: He means Fred Williamson. link Boss nigger.

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote:

<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: If Mika has said, Its Freddie Mercury............................then why would it be about any one else???????????????????????????????????

Instead of posting so many question marks, you could give us the proof so we can move on.

???????????????????????? I quite like the questions marks......... But just for the people here who keep on saying its not freddie M, but its Fred A..... well.... watch this at 2min and 22sec and then tell me what you all think... link

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: Ok, now we're talking bullshit. A performer but not an artist?? WHAT AN INSULT!! Elvis never wrote a single fucking song in his life, then he is not an artist? For fuck's sake!!

And I must ask, what did you listen of Valens' stuff? Did you listen to all of his 9 records plus the 2 V albums? I don't think so.

So go to listen, and then come back and tell me if he always copies Queen. Can't think of a Queen song like The Polka or Thunderbolt.

Boy Thomas Raker wrote: "And Mika... well fuck. Good at what he does, and only very young... give him a chance to develop." Well put, Zebonka. I'd hazard a guess that the majority of people hear who have flamed Mika have done so because of the line "so I tried a little Freddie", and thought "Freddie clone!" Actually, the song is about the difficulty of trying to establish yourself in the bullshit world of music, and he "tried a little Freddie" because he was unsure of what he should be to people in the industry. The song is a total fuck you to the music industry, so good on him for that. I think that Mika obviously is heavily influenced by Freddie, and that shows in his playing and the affectation on his vocals, but I'm pretty sure Freddie was influenced by people like Liza Minelli and Robert Plant so it's not like Freddie was Freddie on the first Queen album. Give Mika time, he may suck, he may have a great career, but let him stand on his own without having to slam him for trying to be like someone else.

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: If Mika has said, Its Freddie Mercury............................then why would it be about any one else???????????????????????????????????

Boy Thomas Raker wrote: And the point you seem to be missing, Thomas, is that there was nothing on the first Queen album that separated Freddie from anyone else. If the internet were available in 1973, people on the Led Zeppelin, Sweet and Bowie forums would be bitching about how this Freddie guy has ripped off music/style/androgony from their favourite act. Queen's first couple of albums were basically passed off as warmed over Led Zeppelin with Beach Boys harmonies. It irked Freddie and he always made the point of asking interviewers who sounded like Queen when Bo Rhap was released. As to Grace Kelly ripping off Queen, can't agree. He's obviously influenced, but does anything with piano noodlings and vocal harmonies and big flourishes equal a Queen rip-off? Again, Queen were considered Led Zep clones in the beginning, and their first album was a very Zep/Free style of music. They changed, which is why I say Mika deserves time.

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: AND Franz Ferdinand! Freddie started World War I!

Boy Thomas Raker wrote: Not singling you out, Thomas, re: Queen I and the rest of Queen's career. It just appears some people here are ready to crucify Mika for similiarities, or ripping off Queen. I don't see the note-for-note rip-off that you do, but I think you're knowledgeable enough that I can't dispute what your ears hear. Either he'll become less Freddie/more Mika or he won't. He has personality in his music, which is harder to find these days, so it'll be interesting to see where his career takes him. I just think too many people are all over him based on one album, which isn't a fair sample size.