| turini 30.05.2007 16:37 |
1. “Under Pressure” off Queen’s Hot Space 2. “This Is England” off the Clash’s Cut The Crap 3. “Eminence Front” off The Who’s It’s Hard 4. “Brownsville Girl” off Bob Dylan’s Knocked Out Loaded 5. “Hallo Spaceboy” off David Bowie’s Outside 6. “Kill Your Sons” off Lou Reed’s Sally Can’t Dance 7. “2000 Light Years from Home” off the Rolling Stones’ Their Satanic Majesties Request 8. “Goin’ Home” off Neil Young’s Are You Passionate 9. “Song For Guy” off Elton John’s A Single Man 10. “Don’t Look Back” off Boston’s Don’t Look Back 11. “Jammin’ Me” off Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ Let Me Up I’ve Had Enough 12. “Shipbuilding” off Elvis Costello’s Punch the Clock 13. “Go Let It Out” off Oasis’s Standing on the Shoulder of Giants 14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the Night 15. “Tonight” off Elton John’s Blue Moves 16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-Biz 17. “Country Death Song” off the Violent Femmes’ Hallowed Ground 18. “Busy Doin’ Nothin’” off the Beach Boys’ Friends 19. “Supernova” off Liz Phair’s Whip-Smart 20. “The Most Beautiful Girl in the World” off Prince’s The Gold Experience 21. “Human Touch” off Bruce Springsteen’s Human Touch 22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of Reason 23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big Thing 24. “Wild Wild Life” off The Talking Heads’ True Stories 25. “My Love” off Wings’ Red Rose Speedway link im not suprised |
| Maz 30.05.2007 16:48 |
Disappointing that they would consider Boston's Don't Look Back a "bad album." Incomplete, yes, but that's due to label interference; it still has several good tunes including Party and A Man I'll Never Be. As for the Queen jab, I'd have to agree with RS for once. |
| Micrówave 30.05.2007 17:04 |
Rolling Stone wrote: 14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the NightEven though "Little Lies" and "Seven Wonders" scored much higher in the charts? This album also contained another single, "Everywhere". Great choice for a bad album, Rolling Stone. But they finally put Queen #1 at something... |
| Champipple 30.05.2007 18:35 |
Great list! Oh... and I fully agree with Tango in the Night being on there. They may have been bigger hits but yuck. Not so sure about Momentary Lapse of Reason, but it's all cool. :) |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 30.05.2007 21:07 |
Interesting picks, although I don't agree with many of them. Tango In The Night for example, which I consider a great album. It was a change in FM's musical direction, that's for sure, but it's a good album. Also interesting the choices for the Elton John's albums "Single Man" and "Blue Moves" and they are probably right on these two, despite "Blue Moves" having another top notch song: "Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word" As for Oasis' "Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants", again I don't think it's a bad album, it's just a (big) change in the musical direction, but I admit it has some very bad moments. Anyway, "Go Let It Out" is certainly not the best song out of there, I'd say "Gas Panic" Anyway, an interesting list, which is rare for Rolling Stone... |
| Daniel Nester 30.05.2007 21:37 |
It might be a study in contrast, too. By which I mean, up until then, Queen were on a roll album-wise, and every band has "off" albums. I like how they cherrypick off of those terrible Elton John albums, though, although you could do the same off of Dylan, Who, etc. Which they wouldn't do, those kind of bands being sacrosanct rock critic darlings. Surprised to see them put an Elvis Costello track on this kind of thing. Every review of a Costello album has been like that of the second coming of Christ. My pick would include "Thru and Thru," a Keith Richards-sung track off of the otherwise blah Rolling Stones' Voodoo Lounge. It's been on the Sopranos to great effect. |
| akindofmagic 30.05.2007 22:52 |
"Momentary LApse of Reason" is a very good album. Apart from Learning To Fly, there are such great songs as the classics "On a Turning Away","Sorrow", plus "One Slip", "Yet Another Movie" and "Terminal Frost" |
| Maz 31.05.2007 01:52 |
The album version of Big Love sounds good, but I always preferred the live version available on The Dance. Not a Fleetwood Mac fan, but I bought that CD solely for that version. |
| Daniel Nester 31.05.2007 09:32 |
"On the Turning Away" is one of my favorite Floyd songs, ever. |
| Micrówave 31.05.2007 12:02 |
Maz wrote: The album version of Big Love sounds good, but I always preferred the live version available on The Dance. Not a Fleetwood Mac fan, but I bought that CD solely for that version.Lindsey opened his solo tour playing that solo on an acoustic the next year. Incredible. I believe it's still on his set list. Glad to see other Tango fans, very easy album to listen to. It's the crap they started to release after that, when everyone jumped ship. |
| thomasquinn 32989 31.05.2007 12:41 |
1. “Under Pressure” off Queen’s Hot SpaceAgreed, mostly. The album has a few ups, but not many. 2. “This Is England” off the Clash’s Cut The CrapAgreed. 4. “Brownsville Girl” off Bob Dylan’s Knocked Out LoadedCompletely agreed. Great song, poor album. But the outtakes are better than the album. 5. “Hallo Spaceboy” off David Bowie’s OutsideAgreed. 6. “Kill Your Sons” off Lou Reed’s Sally Can’t DanceAgreed. Great song, by the way. 8. “Goin’ Home” off Neil Young’s Are You PassionateAgreed. Very poor effort of Neil's, that album was. 9. “Song For Guy” off Elton John’s A Single ManDisagree. I think the song AND the album suck. 11. “Jammin’ Me” off Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ Let Me Up I’ve Had EnoughThe album's not GREAT, but it's definitely not BAD. Great song, though. 12. “Shipbuilding” off Elvis Costello’s Punch the Clock Agreed! 14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the NightDisagree. Not a good song, IMHO. 16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-BizGreat song, piss-poor album. Agreed! 18. “Busy Doin’ Nothin’” off the Beach Boys’ FriendsNot a good song, not a good album, IMHO. Disagree. 21. “Human Touch” off Bruce Springsteen’s Human TouchYep. Very disappointing album, too. 22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of ReasonThe album's so bad that it needs a song this good to make up for it. 23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big ThingDisagree. Bad album and bad song. |
| Champipple 31.05.2007 14:31 |
Lindsey Buckingham is pure genius. I've seen him on both solo tours and yes he still does his awesomely crazy acoustic version of Big Love. He's also doing a great version of Tusk and World Turning on this tour. If you get a chance you should check him out. |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 31.05.2007 15:26 |
Oh and as for PF's Momentary Lapse Of Reason, it's common to bash this album, I'm just surprised "The Division Bell" (one of my all time favrite albums) isn't there too. Again, this is mostly due to the contrast between these two albums and the IMO much worse "The Final Cut". Anyway, I think Lapse Of Reason has some very good moments (Sorrow, On The Turnning Away, Terminal Frost...), along with some less inspired moments like One Slip. The Watersless Floyd got much better with the Division Bell. |
| drwinston 31.05.2007 15:53 |
Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: Oh and as for PF's Momentary Lapse Of Reason, it's common to bash this album, I'm just surprised "The Division Bell" (one of my all time favrite albums) isn't there too. Again, this is mostly due to the contrast between these two albums and the IMO much worse "The Final Cut".Ahh, different strokes I guess. I think the Final Cut, while very slow, is a good album. But then I'm a Roger Waters fan. I like David Gilmore, but the two albums that "Pink Floyd" made without Waters just bore me to tears. Without the Waters edge, Floyd never appealed to me. Kinda like MacCartney without Lennon. |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 31.05.2007 16:37 |
drwinston wrote:Yeah different strokes ;-)Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: Oh and as for PF's Momentary Lapse Of Reason, it's common to bash this album, I'm just surprised "The Division Bell" (one of my all time favrite albums) isn't there too. Again, this is mostly due to the contrast between these two albums and the IMO much worse "The Final Cut".Ahh, different strokes I guess. I think the Final Cut, while very slow, is a good album. But then I'm a Roger Waters fan. I like David Gilmore, but the two albums that "Pink Floyd" made without Waters just bore me to tears. Without the Waters edge, Floyd never appealed to me. Kinda like MacCartney without Lennon. I like The Final Cut... sometimes. As you say it's a very slow album, but I admit it could be MUCH better if it wasn't for the terrible mixing job Roger did with it. Basically, he decided to put all the music layers too much behind his voice, in a way that if you listen to the album in a low volume, you can hear nothing but him. |
| ok.computer 31.05.2007 17:19 |
Actually it's great to see the Tango defence. I prefer other albums...even Mirage...but it's by no means a "bad album". The Who's "It's Hard" is a truly woeful album, and really the lads should have taken their "extended rest" after "Face Dances". I mean, for fuck's sake...Kenny Jones, like.... Though I agree that Eminence Front is excellent. As for "Human Touch"...not one of Springsteen's best efforts, but I think "57 Channels", and "I Wish I Were Blind" weren't bad efforts. |
| Pim Derks 31.05.2007 19:12 |
Friends by The Beach Boys is a fab album. It's no Pet Sounds, Today or Holland - but has it's moments. |
| Mr.Jingles 01.06.2007 07:18 |
It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era. Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone. Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list. - 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa - 'Please' from Pop Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them. |
| drwinston 01.06.2007 15:37 |
Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: Yeah different strokes ;-) I like The Final Cut... sometimes. As you say it's a very slow album, but I admit it could be MUCH better if it wasn't for the terrible mixing job Roger did with it. Basically, he decided to put all the music layers too much behind his voice, in a way that if you listen to the album in a low volume, you can hear nothing but him.Excellent point - and then the times he whispers you hear nothing at all! I didn't know he did the mix, although that makes sense since the band was ruled under his dictatorship at the time. Still, an incredibly gifted songwriter. |
| Asterik 02.06.2007 16:30 |
I can't understand why Outside by Bowie is viewed as bad album. It's great as far as I'm concerned even if the crime story is too bizarre to follow. |
| Asterik 02.06.2007 16:32 |
Plus I think Human Touch by The Boss is underrated too. Man's Job and I Wish I Were Blind are great and so is Roll Of The Dice. It's certainly better than Tom Joad, which is the musical equivalent of Purgatory. |
| Bobby_brown 02.06.2007 17:34 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era. Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone. Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list. - 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa - 'Please' from Pop Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.You´re right. POP by U2 should be in the list. And i´ve never understood the thing about Pink Floyd without Roger Waters. As far as i´m concern their "Division Bell" album is among their best. I´ve never heard the 1987 one, but i´ve heard five wonderfull songs from it (one being the wonderfull "On a Turning Away"). If people consider this a bad album then it doesn´t make much sense. Take care |
| Mr Faron Hyte 03.06.2007 04:32 |
turini wrote: 1. “Under Pressure” off Queen’s Hot SpaceThis is a pretty good choice for number one on a list like this. I like Hot Space the way an uncle loves his ugly niece, but "Under Pressure" really is head and shoulders above everything on that album besides the gorgeous "Las Palabras de Amor". Over the years, "Under Pressure" has grown to become one of my favorite songs in the entire Queen catalogue, primarily because of the passion and the immediacy of the vocal performances, although the sentiment doesn't hurt either. Brilliant song, not so great album. [14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the NightAgree that TITN wasn't much of an album, but "Little Lies" is much better than "Big Love". The former has that gorgeous Christine McVie vocal, whereas the latter is all Lindsey Buckingham fiddling with his own voice for the umpteenth time. Its not an awful song (and lightyears better than Buckingham's "Family Man" from the same album) but its hardly the best track from the album. 16. “Celluloid Heroes” off the Kinks’ Everybody’s in Show-BizAgreed. Great track btw. 20. “The Most Beautiful Girl in the World” off Prince’s The Gold ExperienceAgreed. Also a great track. Even when Prince is bad, he's interesting. 22. “Learning To Fly” off Pink Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of ReasonAgreed. 23. “I Don’t Want Your Love” off Duran Duran’s Big ThingDisagree. Not a great song. And whoever mentioned Lindsey Buckingham's solo tour is right. I've seen him three times in support of his most recent album and he puts on a terrific show. I like him much better live than on the record. |
| Asterik 03.06.2007 06:31 |
Bobby_brown wrote:Mr.Jingles wrote: It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era. Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone. Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list. - 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa - 'Please' from Pop Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.QUOTE] |
| john bodega 03.06.2007 10:06 |
Can someone explain to me why Eminence Front is so loved?? I mean... it is not a BAD song... but still. |
| kdj2hot 04.06.2007 10:08 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era. Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone. Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list. - 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa - 'Please' from Pop Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd. |
| kdj2hot 04.06.2007 10:09 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Can someone explain to me why Eminence Front is so loved?? I mean... it is not a BAD song... but still.Because Pete Townsend sings it and the music is borderline funky I think. |
| john bodega 04.06.2007 12:26 |
"Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else." Hmmm.. Not sure how to approach this. I'm not going to call him an excellent composer, because it's not like Pink Floyd ever did anything outrageous theory wise (though Rick Wright lifted some simple yet clever chord progressions and used them in a good way). He can't write lyrics. True enough - but to say 'leave the music to someone else' isn't a fair thing to say of someone who composes the solos that he does!! Of course, if one doesn't like his solos or his songs (Comfortably Numb to name the obvious).. then I guess we'll drop the matter :D |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 04.06.2007 19:55 |
Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd.Do you know who wrote Confortably Numb? And I'm not talking about the solo only. CN was a David Gilmour compostion for his solo album that was released a few years after The Wall, but he delivered it to Roger, so that he could find a place for it in the album. Add the (fabulous) lyrics and there you have it. And then there's High Hopes, Marooned, Sorrow etc etc It's like Zebonka said, it's fair enough to say that he can't write lyrics (he is the first to confirm this), but saying he is not a talented composer, that's being narrow-minded... |
| Champipple 05.06.2007 12:10 |
I agree with POP being there in place of Zooropa. Zooropa took quite a few listens but it really grew on me. Still not as good as U2's best, but not a bad album really, they were trying to push the envelope but it feels rushed. They recorded and released it while on tour so it didn't get the studio love that Achtung Baby did. I also agree that Ghost of Tom Joad is a worse album than Human Touch, but Human Touch was bad. Both Human Touch and Lucky Town had good songs that were really poorly produced and played. Give Bruce a mulligan, pick the 12 best and rerecord those songs with the E-Street band you'd have a classic. |
| Mr.Jingles 06.06.2007 09:34 |
kdj2hot wrote:I agree that Gilmour is not particularly a great lyricist (at least not in the league of Waters).Mr.Jingles wrote: It's quite pathetic that 20 years later people are still bashing Pink Floyd's post Roger Waters era. Which doesn't surprise me much as it comes from Rolling Stone. Here's two U2 albums and two U2 songs that Rolling Stone should considering adding to that list. - 'Stay (Faraway So Close)' from Zooropa - 'Please' from Pop Now considering that Rolling Stone has a personal affair with U2, they can't say anything bad about them.Because David Gilmoure isn't a talented composer, He's a good guitar player but should leave the music to someone else. I mean the dude needed help to write the lyrics. It deserves bashing and insults the legacy of the Barrett led Pink Floyd and the Waters led Pink Floyd. But, C'mon! The guy is a brilliant composer! I own his 3 solo efforts and many of those songs could have fitted perfectly into a great Pink Floyd album. Sadly with Pink Floyd things got to the point where once Roger Waters came up with a concept, he would hardly allow anyone's contribution to make changes to the album. 'The Final Cut' although a very good album is more a solo album than a Pink Floyd album. |
| Asterik 06.06.2007 12:11 |
"I also agree that Ghost of Tom Joad is a worse album than Human Touch, but Human Touch was bad. Both Human Touch and Lucky Town had good songs that were really poorly produced and played. Give Bruce a mulligan, pick the 12 best and rerecord those songs with the E-Street band you'd have a classic" Yes, you make some good points there. Of the two I think Lucky Town is much the superior because the production was less "icy"- it had a grittier, rougher edge and the songs sound more alive. Better Days, Living Proof and Beautiful Reward are as good as any stuff he wrote. Human Touch does sound very dry which is why I prefer the versions from the Plugged live album. Man's Job sounds better for a start, but certainly the E Street band would have helped even if he was after a simpler sound they could have adapted. I gues it was death by session player competence. |
| Asterik 06.06.2007 12:13 |
Micrówave wrote:Rolling Stone wrote: 14. “Big Love” off Fleetwood Mac’s Tango In the NightEven though "Little Lies" and "Seven Wonders" scored much higher in the charts? This album also contained another single, "Everywhere". |
| Mr.Jingles 06.06.2007 14:54 |
I agree I'm not a big fan of Fleetwood Mac, but 'Tango In The Night' was a great combination of 80s rock with the classic Fleetwood Mac sound from the 70s. Once again these morons from Rolling Stone are talking out of their asses. |
| Micrówave 06.06.2007 17:09 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I agree I'm not a big fan of Fleetwood Mac, but 'Tango In The Night' was a great combination of 80s rock with the classic Fleetwood Mac sound from the 70s. Once again these morons from Rolling Stone are talking out of their asses.Holy crap, couldn't have said it better!! |
| ok.computer 16.06.2007 20:02 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Can someone explain to me why Eminence Front is so loved?? I mean... it is not a BAD song... but still.I think most people have better memories of it live rather than the album version. It has a nice riff running through it. |
| john bodega 17.06.2007 08:38 |
Well it can be a bit of a tour de force at times... I do think Pete's gotten better at it lately. |