| ***Marial-B*** 27.05.2007 13:52 |
For any of those who doesn't know, RCTV better known as Radio Caracas Television, is the oldest channel in Venezuela. With 53 years on air is gonne be closed today at 11:59 local time. Just beacuse they make opposition to Chavez Goverment, he's gonna take them unproperly out of air 'cuz he doesn't want to give them the permission to work again and besides that he's gonna take "legally" all their equipments and they're gona send the army to teh building to make sure they can't operate. There's some links for you all: link |
| sparrow 21754 27.05.2007 14:00 |
politics can blow me :-D i dont know much about this guy, but still, people need to learn to handle critisism. if youre a politician, its to be expected you wont be liked by everyone. such a stupid tactic. |
| Raf 27.05.2007 14:04 |
Ah yeah. Down with Capitalism, dead to every Neoliberalist in the world. Congratulations to all you Bolivarists and so called Socialists, you won this time. Now, seriously. I think when a country invades another to take down a leader elected in a democratic way, this country deserves to be punished. But right now anyone willing to get rid of Hugo Chavez would do more good than harm. Specially because Chavez is acting in a very anti-democratic way to make sure people won't democratically choose another leader when they realise how rotten he is. |
| Gratzi 27.05.2007 14:12 |
Sparrow wrote: politics can blow me :-D i dont know much about this guy, but still, people need to learn to handle critisism. if youre a politician, its to be expected you wont be liked by everyone. such a stupid tactic.Haha! cute! :D but we are talking about Chavez here! |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 27.05.2007 14:26 |
<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: Ah yeah. Down with Capitalism, dead to every Neoliberalist in the world. Congratulations to all you Bolivarists and so called Socialists, you won this time. Now, seriously. I think when a country invades another to take down a leader elected in a democratic way, this country deserves to be punished. But right now anyone willing to get rid of Hugo Chavez would do more good than harm. Specially because Chavez is acting in a very anti-democratic way to make sure people won't democratically choose another leader when they realise how rotten he is.Bush would of invaded by now if venezuela had "weapons of mass destruction" or "oil" as the rest of the world calls it |
| Raf 27.05.2007 14:36 |
joxertheladiesmanpirate wrote:Practically all the money Chavez uses to keep his assistencialism (forgive my spelling or even a possible choice of the wrong word, this is just a rough attempt to guess the right word from the Portuguese equivalent) policy working comes from oil. And guess who's Venezuela's biggest customer... ;)<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: Ah yeah. Down with Capitalism, dead to every Neoliberalist in the world. Congratulations to all you Bolivarists and so called Socialists, you won this time. Now, seriously. I think when a country invades another to take down a leader elected in a democratic way, this country deserves to be punished. But right now anyone willing to get rid of Hugo Chavez would do more good than harm. Specially because Chavez is acting in a very anti-democratic way to make sure people won't democratically choose another leader when they realise how rotten he is.Bush would of invaded by now if venezuela had "weapons of mass destruction" or "oil" as the rest of the world calls it So, all the money Chavez gets to brainwash people and turn them against America comes from America. I dunno about other Latin American countries, but here in Brazil most of the press often remarks that it's impossible to fully understand Chavez and foresee what he'll do, how he'll react to certain things, because he's more of an actor or anything. Even his Bolivarism/Anti-Americanism is no more than a strategy to get popular among his people. Of course there are many people in Venezuela aware of what Chavez really is, but most of them are poor people who don't have much access to information, so they don't even know all the free stuff they get is paid with money coming from the same America they're told to hate. |
| write your letters in the sand 27.05.2007 15:41 |
joxertheladiesmanpirate wrote:Venezuela does have oil. Lots of it.<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote: Ah yeah. Down with Capitalism, dead to every Neoliberalist in the world. Congratulations to all you Bolivarists and so called Socialists, you won this time. Now, seriously. I think when a country invades another to take down a leader elected in a democratic way, this country deserves to be punished. But right now anyone willing to get rid of Hugo Chavez would do more good than harm. Specially because Chavez is acting in a very anti-democratic way to make sure people won't democratically choose another leader when they realise how rotten he is.Bush would of invaded by now if venezuela had "weapons of mass destruction" or "oil" as the rest of the world calls it From the November 27, 2006 report (by Cesar J Alvarez) for the Council on Foreign Relations report entitled "Venezuela’s Oil-Based Economy": >>How much oil is PDVSA producing? According to the U.S. government’s Energy Information Administration (EIA), production of crude oil reached an estimated 3.1 million barrels per day (mb/d) in 2000 before falling to about 2.3 mb/d after the PDVSA strike. It is not clear whether Venezuela’s average output has been able to return to its prestrike production levels. Since 2004 it has reportedly been yielding a relatively consistent 2.6 mb/d, according to the EIA. In contrast, PDVSA estimates the rate at around 3.1 mb/d in 2005. But PDVSA’s estimate also includes over 600,000 barrels a day of extra-heavy crude oil from the Orinoco belt, whereas the EIA’s estimates do not specify what type of oil grades make up its crude oil supply figures. A report (PDF) by the International Energy Agency, which does account for the extra-heavy crude oil production, put PDVSA’s 2005 production rate at 3.2 mb/d, but showed a decreased rate of 2.55 mb/d in September 2006. Venezuela has an estimated 78 billion barrels of conventional crude oil reserves and an additional estimated 235 billion barrels of unconventional extra-heavy crude oil in the Orinoco Belt region located southeast of Caracas. If development in the region can turn this extra-heavy tar-like oil into a more marketable commodity, Venezuela’s total reserves could rival those of Saudi Arabia, reports the New York Times. Yet Professor Tinker-Salas argues that production of extra-heavy crude oil is “only viable long as the price of oil remains over $50 per barrel.”<< link From the CIA World Fact Book: >>Venezuela remains highly dependent on oil revenues, which account for roughly 90% of export earnings, more than 50% of the federal budget revenues, and around 30% of GDP. Tax collection - Venezuela's primary source of non-oil revenue - is expected to surpass $23 billion in 2006, exceeding the yearend collection goal by more than 20%. A nationwide strike between December 2002 and February 2003 had far-reaching economic consequences - real GDP declined by around 9% in 2002 and 8% in 2003 - but economic output since then has recovered strongly. Fueled by higher oil prices, record government spending helped to boost GDP growth in 2004 and 2005 to approximately 18% and 11%, respectively. Economic growth in 2006 reached about 9%. This spending, combined with recent minimum wage hikes and improved access to domestic credit, has fueled a consumption boom - car sales in 2006 increased by around 70% - but has come at the cost of higher inflation. Despite government attempts to withdraw liquidity from the economy, Venezuela's money supply set a record in June 2006, approximately 70% higher than the previous year. Imports have also jumped significantly.<< link |
| ***Marial-B*** 27.05.2007 16:29 |
I have another link: link |
| write your letters in the sand 27.05.2007 16:36 |
It will be interesting to see if someone picks up the cable broadcast and broadcasts it illegally over the airwaves (i.e. pirate radio) or the web. As an aside, I hope you are doing well Mari! |
| ***Marial-B*** 27.05.2007 16:38 |
and for those who doesn't know too much about Chavez: link Edit: I haven't found any proper bio about him who won't make him look like a God, which it's not true |
| ***Marial-B*** 27.05.2007 17:04 |
write your letters in the sand wrote: It will be interesting to see if someone picks up the cable broadcast and broadcasts it illegally over the airwaves (i.e. pirate radio). As an aside, I hope you are doing well Mari!There's a project: they're moving all the people to another building to make a cable channel, but it's like giving them the pleasure to make fun of them. And thanks Cindy, we have to chat soon ^^ |
| ***Marial-B*** 28.05.2007 00:06 |
The channel is closed now. I can't believe what I'm living now... I just know that Justice will come sooner or later |
| write your letters in the sand 28.05.2007 00:08 |
<font color="magenta">Marial-B wrote: The channel is closed now. I can't believe what I'm living now... I just know that Justice will come sooner or laterHmmm . . . weird web site glitch! Sorry for the multiple posts. |
| write your letters in the sand 28.05.2007 00:08 |
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| write your letters in the sand 28.05.2007 00:08 |
<font color="magenta">Marial-B wrote: The channel is closed now. I can't believe what I'm living now... I just know that Justice will come sooner or laterSorry to hear that Mari. Hopefully this is just a temporary setback. |
| Saint Jiub 28.05.2007 00:45 |
I refuse to buy Citgo gasoline. link |
| ***Marial-B*** 28.05.2007 01:29 |
Thanks for all your support guys... although now I'm worried 'cuz everything is turning violent in Venezuela now :S |
| ***Marial-B*** 28.05.2007 16:45 |
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| ***Marial-B*** 28.05.2007 17:53 |
I know what you mean, but still he can't do it that wild remember, he was "elected" president. |
| ***Marial-B*** 28.05.2007 18:19 |
I know what you mean :(... Anyways... we have a lot of rallys around the country, confirmed 2 deaths and I'm waiting for my dad to be home, he was in one of the places where one of the main rallies was being celebrated. |
| Maruga 28.05.2007 20:15 |
Miami Vice wrote: Hello Marial, yes Chavez was "elected" but so were Salvador Allende in Chile and Alberto Fujimori in Peru and Juan Peron in Argentina, they all turned out to be corrupt and dictatorial.Let me remind you that Allende was removed by the worst dictator in Latin America... just remember that okay? About Chávez... well, another proof that he's so anti-democratic like the people he criticizes (aka Bush)... but i reserve my own opinion, because i don't live in Venezuela, so i prefer to not mess with another country's business. |
| AspiringPhilosophe 28.05.2007 21:57 |
Heard about this on the news tonight actually. Doesn't surprise me...he's definately a dictator, or maybe a step below if he's not actually there yet. And elected? pfft. Saddam Hussein was elected too, technically. So was Bush. An election doesn't mean anything in and of itself. People who have to hush up criticism of themselves and their policies definately have something to hide...and some self esteem issues. Hopefully the people who ran the station can keep it alive underground |
| write your letters in the sand 28.05.2007 22:44 |
Mari: This story received significant coverage on the NBC national network news broadcast in the US this evening. Shown were the demonstrations/protests, protesters being sprayed with water canon, people said to be staff of the station, and clips of Chavez. Stay safe and out of harm's way amiga! |
| ***Marial-B*** 28.05.2007 23:34 |
Hey Cindy, 3 days in a row without a proper sleep. I'm safe 'cuz I'm not living in Venezuela anymore. What worries me is my mom, dad, sisters, family and friends. In the town where I lived there's a 16 year old kid dead thanks to their "police". It's like... AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH, So frustrating!!!!! Thank God there's justice. I just hope that it comes soon... |
| The Mir@cle 29.05.2007 03:37 |
I knew Chaves was a clown. I used to laugh hard about him, because of his stupid statements. But this is getting seriously. |
| Mr.Jingles 29.05.2007 07:27 |
Chavez is moving one step closer to totalitarianism. As much as he makes himself look Bolivar, he seems more of a Hitler type of figure. |
| The Mir@cle 29.05.2007 08:22 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Chavez is moving one step closer to totalitarianism. As much as he makes himself look Bolivar, he seems more of a Hitler type of figure.Hitler? Well, I don't know if you read your history books carefully... But you can't compare those two yet. |
| Mr.Jingles 29.05.2007 09:47 |
<font color=#CC0066 face="Bradley Hand ITC"> The Mir@cle </font> wrote:Not side by side, but it looks like Chavez is heading there.Mr.Jingles wrote: Chavez is moving one step closer to totalitarianism. As much as he makes himself look Bolivar, he seems more of a Hitler type of figure.Hitler? Well, I don't know if you read your history books carefully... But you can't compare those two yet. |
| ***Marial-B*** 29.05.2007 10:31 |
Again, there are more rallies, and they're gonna be more rallies too tonight, already praying for everyone |
| ***Marial-B*** 29.05.2007 17:51 |
I found two more interesting topics in english link link |
| ***Marial-B*** 07.06.2007 19:10 |
link Just for those who doesn't believe me still |