QueenZone discussion #972816

<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: Who cares about church ? I mean, except for people that go there. If they want to take the time to care, it doesn't matter to me what they do there unless they're having heathen sacrifices or something.

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

Nathan wrote: Weird topic.

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

jkdrummerboy wrote: Atheist- you are a fucking piece of SHIT who doesn't deserve to live!!!!

jkdrummerboy wrote: hello again you fucking piece of SHIT.If you think you hurt my feelings you must be fucking reterted!!! You are nobody in my eyes and I wouldn't even waste my spit on you!!! Once again you are a fucking piece of SHIT who doesn't deserve to LIVE...

Atheist wrote: sure i agree but you have to admit that religion is bad thing that destroys peoples lifes

Gr8 King Rat wrote:

Atheist wrote: sure i agree but you have to admit that religion is bad thing that destroys peoples lifes

No, its idiots like you that are fucking up this world. A world without faith is NOT a good thing. I'm seeing it right here in my own country. More and more people are turning away from God, and this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

jkdrummerboy wrote: hello again you fucking piece of SHIT.If you think you hurt my feelings you must be fucking reterted!!! You are nobody in my eyes and I wouldn't even waste my spit on you!!! Once again you are a fucking piece of SHIT who doesn't deserve to LIVE...

<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: Just be nice people and don't eat your neighbour (unless he's a Cadbury Creme).

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

Atheist wrote:

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

and you christians arent retarded and crazy believing in a story book of lies and wearing a cross around your neck? its like wearing some torture symbol. THAT is crazy

Gr8 King Rat wrote:

Atheist wrote: sure i agree but you have to admit that religion is bad thing that destroys peoples lifes

No, its idiots like you that are fucking up this world. A world without faith is NOT a good thing. I'm seeing it right here in my own country. More and more people are turning away from God, and this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

NTL wrote:

Gr8 King Rat wrote:

Atheist wrote: sure i agree but you have to admit that religion is bad thing that destroys peoples lifes

No, its idiots like you that are fucking up this world. A world without faith is NOT a good thing. I'm seeing it right here in my own country. More and more people are turning away from God, and this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Can you please explain why a world without faith would not be a good thing ? And why you think faith makes the world a better place. Whether you like it or not, people who belive in that nonsense are simply insecure and are terrified of death so turn to God because it helps them deal with it, thinking they will end up in heaven. When will people realise that you live then you die and you are no more. Freddie Mercury is NOT burning in hell because he was gay, he is dead and no longer exists, full stop. I think I can safely say that the world WOULD be a better place without faith and the quicker everyone else realises this the better. I think everyone, belivers and non belivers should go away and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins and have your minds opened a little.

ThomasQu?nn wrote: Freddie seems like a god to a lot of people - however anyone's life could be made really interesting and sad when they die - just add a bit of sad music to a video clip etc. Take your own life - i'm sure most people have fantastic memories of childhood and adulthood. Freddie had the same, only he's are captured on film. All perceptions. That's it. There's nothing godlike about him, or anyone. Take brian may - he's a fantastic guitarist, yet if you look back what he did it's nothing. He moves his hands on a piece of wood. Just mimic him playing the guitar - that's what he's done all his life - move his fingers around (just on a physical level here). See there's nothing amazing about anyone when you think like that. ALso take a funeral - people cry, yet why do they do this? Probably because there is an emotional piece of music being played. Imagine if there was an upbeat song being played - bet the reaction would be totally different - life is all about perceptions - we just create the rest. Now you know i'm correct - it sucks. But that's life.

Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:

NTL wrote:

Gr8 King Rat wrote:

Atheist wrote: sure i agree but you have to admit that religion is bad thing that destroys peoples lifes

No, its idiots like you that are fucking up this world. A world without faith is NOT a good thing. I'm seeing it right here in my own country. More and more people are turning away from God, and this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Can you please explain why a world without faith would not be a good thing ? And why you think faith makes the world a better place. Whether you like it or not, people who belive in that nonsense are simply insecure and are terrified of death so turn to God because it helps them deal with it, thinking they will end up in heaven. When will people realise that you live then you die and you are no more. Freddie Mercury is NOT burning in hell because he was gay, he is dead and no longer exists, full stop. I think I can safely say that the world WOULD be a better place without faith and the quicker everyone else realises this the better. I think everyone, belivers and non belivers should go away and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins and have your minds opened a little.

Now here is a smart person, couldnt have said it better myself. Religion is only for weak people and DOES more bad than good. Separates people from eachother.

<font color=blue>Rick wrote: Well, Jesus had nails in his hands/feet and Freddie liked to nail.

Mr.Jingles wrote: This just shows that some atheists (not all of them) are just about fucked up in the head as religious fundamentalists. The lack of tolerance and respect for the beliefs of others truly sickens me.

<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: Who cares about church ? I mean, except for people that go there. If they want to take the time to care, it doesn't matter to me what they do there unless they're having heathen sacrifices or something.

louvox wrote:

<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: Who cares about church ? I mean, except for people that go there. If they want to take the time to care, it doesn't matter to me what they do there unless they're having heathen sacrifices or something.

Why don't you change your underwear?

louvox wrote: When your done throwing your child like fit over my responce I reccomend pour your self your favorite beverage, get on your knees and pray to "Freddie" that he saves you a place in hell next to him.

squidbits wrote: I am sorry for the caps, I was just saying that perfectly nice, mature people shouldn't be insulting and critsizing each other. Is that too much to ask?

ThomasQu?nn wrote: Freddie seems like a god to a lot of people - however anyone's life could be made really interesting and sad when they die - just add a bit of sad music to a video clip etc. Take your own life - i'm sure most people have fantastic memories of childhood and adulthood. Freddie had the same, only he's are captured on film. All perceptions. That's it. There's nothing godlike about him, or anyone. Take brian may - he's a fantastic guitarist, yet if you look back what he did it's nothing. He moves his hands on a piece of wood. Just mimic him playing the guitar - that's what he's done all his life - move his fingers around (just on a physical level here). See there's nothing amazing about anyone when you think like that. ALso take a funeral - people cry, yet why do they do this? Probably because there is an emotional piece of music being played. Imagine if there was an upbeat song being played - bet the reaction would be totally different - life is all about perceptions - we just create the rest. Now you know i'm correct - it sucks. But that's life.

rockyracoon wrote: If I were at a well-attended meeting (let's say 300 people attending a lecture in an auditorium) and Freddie were to walk in, I would STAND to honor the world's greatest performer, the great vocalist, the genius composer, and the man whose music, to this day, moves the depths of my soul and frequently brings tears to my eyes. On the other hand, if Jesus Christ were to walk into the same auditorium.......................I would kneel.

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

NTL wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

Not really, but I just cant belive we are living in the 21st century and we still have people like you beliving in this nonsence and stopping us moving forward, its annoying to the point of being absolutely hilarious. The good thing about religeous people is that it makes me feel superior, so thanks for that. And just to add on, scientific research shows that Athiests are in general more intelligent than religeous belivers.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

Isn't "jesus" supposed to be capitalized?

theCro wrote: Atheist, you've posted the most devil - stupid - idot post in the history of writing [computer or any other] and you deserve to burn in hell. How can you even compare JESUS and FREDDIE... what a moron you are.

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote:

NTL wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

Not really, but I just cant belive we are living in the 21st century and we still have people like you beliving in this nonsence and stopping us moving forward, its annoying to the point of being absolutely hilarious. The good thing about religeous people is that it makes me feel superior, so thanks for that. And just to add on, scientific research shows that Athiests are in general more intelligent than religeous belivers.

hey, i wasn't stopping anyone from anything... and you're GENERALIZING. i'm not amish or anything and i live like you guys do. go ahead and call me stupid or "less superior or whatever. i'm still the same person with equal dignity as the atheists, jews, moslems, etc. oh. and in what ways are atheists more intelligent than religious people? can you cite specific examples and instances where this applies? and why should religion be an aptitude for intelligence? it's not always that religion gets in the way of rationality, you know. maybe extremists, fine. but generalizing the other religious believers with the extremists somewhat insults me. and i don't see why being a catholic in a free Queenzone community makes me less superior. it's insulting to be called less superior just because you believe in something.

NTL wrote: The good thing about religeous people is that it makes me feel superior, so thanks for that. And just to add on, scientific research shows that Athiests are in general more intelligent than religeous belivers.

NTL wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

Not really, but I just cant belive we are living in the 21st century and we still have people like you beliving in this nonsence and stopping us moving forward, its annoying to the point of being absolutely hilarious. The good thing about religeous people is that it makes me feel superior, so thanks for that. And just to add on, scientific research shows that Athiests are in general more intelligent than religeous belivers.

fightingdove wrote:

NTL wrote: The good thing about religeous people is that it makes me feel superior, so thanks for that. And just to add on, scientific research shows that Athiests are in general more intelligent than religeous believers.

I just did some research of my own and found out that religious people are better spellers, though

skiqueen wrote: by the way, freddie mercury had a religion, you know, he just didnt practice it. did you just miss that little detail or what?

Mr.Jingles wrote:

skiqueen wrote: by the way, freddie mercury had a religion, you know, he just didnt practice it. did you just miss that little detail or what?

Freddie worshiped cocks.

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: okay, fine. i'm trying to, in the least biased way, to tel all of you to at least RESPECT the catholics and christians' beliefs. it's important to them, so you should at least have some morsel of respect, not mock them like truckers! this is absolutely insane! you guys must be older than me, but you act juvenile when you talk about these rather sensitive topics. i love freddie and i have tremendous respect for him, but seriously, people. this is WAY overboard. you guys can start a religion and whatever. but you can't really replace jesus, can you? if you do then you're making another religion so don't involve church or jesus in this whole... whatever thing. you can just say... i'm atheist and i don't believe in jesus, i'd rather worship freddie mercury. just... don't insult some people's beliefs. ps: i love Jesus and God more than i love freddie. got a problem with that?

Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote:

NTL wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: ps: i love jesus and God more thean i love freddie. got a problem with that?

Not really, but I just cant belive we are living in the 21st century and we still have people like you beliving in this nonsence and stopping us moving forward, its annoying to the point of being absolutely hilarious. The good thing about religeous people is that it makes me feel superior, so thanks for that. And just to add on, scientific research shows that Athiests are in general more intelligent than religeous belivers.

hey, i wasn't stopping anyone from anything... and you're GENERALIZING. i'm not amish or anything and i live like you guys do. go ahead and call me stupid or "less superior or whatever. i'm still the same person with equal dignity as the atheists, jews, moslems, etc. oh. and in what ways are atheists more intelligent than religious people? can you cite specific examples and instances where this applies? and why should religion be an aptitude for intelligence? it's not always that religion gets in the way of rationality, you know. maybe extremists, fine. but generalizing the other religious believers with the extremists somewhat insults me. and i don't see why being a catholic in a free Queenzone community makes me less superior. it's insulting to be called less superior just because you believe in something.

Atheists are more intelligent because they dont fall for these stupid fairytales that is told to people. They are smarter cause they think for themselves , not just believing a book. They are smarter cause they can accept that maybe life is not more than this. Now i believe those who created religion are very smart people and i think they are athiests.

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

redspecial85 wrote: Before WWII, any discussion among educated people reguarding Israel becoming a sovereign state again was quite a joke among people in positions of authority. Biblical prophecy said it would happen. They were occupied and slapped around for almost 3000 years under the yoke of the Persians, the Romans, and the Byzantine Empire (among several others). And to the shock and suprise of the international community; in 1948, Israel became its own sovereign nation. Look it up...Do your research, and call me out on it if I'm wrong. The prophecy about Israel is in the book of Revelation.

I pity all of you who don't know Jesus...

<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: Who cares about church ? I mean, except for people that go there. If they want to take the time to care, it doesn't matter to me what they do there unless they're having heathen sacrifices or something.

redspecial85 wrote: If you look back to the Gospels, you'll see that Judas was replaced after his death, so there were 12 that Jesus came back to.

The book of Revelation is looked back on as a poem, but more so as a prophetic poem.

Yes there was a desire among the Jewish communtity in the first century for Israel to become a nation again

it was revealed to John that in the last days it would happen.

Also for the record, I was preaching for a bit in there...but please don't misunderstand what I'm saying and assume things. I never said, "there's something wrong with you people who aren't Christians." I'm not an accuser, I don't condemn anyone for their lifestyle; nor do I believe to be bett

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

jkdrummerboy wrote: hello again you fucking piece of SHIT.If you think you hurt my feelings you must be fucking reterted!!! You are nobody in my eyes and I wouldn't even waste my spit on you!!! Once again you are a fucking piece of SHIT who doesn't deserve to LIVE...

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

redspecial85 wrote: There is a lot of good that Christians are doing in this world...AIDS relief, and missionary work in Africa, India, even in their homeland by looking after the poor, the homeless, widows, and the broken-hearted. But somehow, its overshadowed by its controversies.

"Faith without works is dead."

It was good to have such an intellectually stimulating discussion with you, SirGH. I look forward to talking with you again...Peace...:)

Ready_Coddie wrote: Jesus is Freddie's bitch, he sucks Freddie's cock on a regular basis in heaven amen

Atheist wrote: you religious people should buy a brain and start thinking logically and wake up and see through the bullshit lies. We are just animals and thats a FACT. Human is 99% genetically like an ape, hard to get this into your head?

Atheist wrote: Human is 99% genetically like an ape, hard to get this into your head?

rockyracoon wrote: It disgusts me that Queen fans can be so divided on this issue. Didn't Freddie sing "This Can Be Heaven for Everyone"? The crassness of many of the atheists on this forum has made me question whether I want to be associated with other Queen fans.

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

Atheist wrote:

ThomasQu?nn wrote: Freddie seems like a god to a lot of people - however anyone's life could be made really interesting and sad when they die - just add a bit of sad music to a video clip etc. Take your own life - i'm sure most people have fantastic memories of childhood and adulthood. Freddie had the same, only he's are captured on film. All perceptions. That's it. There's nothing godlike about him, or anyone. Take brian may - he's a fantastic guitarist, yet if you look back what he did it's nothing. He moves his hands on a piece of wood. Just mimic him playing the guitar - that's what he's done all his life - move his fingers around (just on a physical level here). See there's nothing amazing about anyone when you think like that. ALso take a funeral - people cry, yet why do they do this? Probably because there is an emotional piece of music being played. Imagine if there was an upbeat song being played - bet the reaction would be totally different - life is all about perceptions - we just create the rest. Now you know i'm correct - it sucks. But that's life.

you are wrong, freddie wasnt like anybody else and there will never be anyone as good as him again

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: - John is a gnostic gospel

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: - John is a gnostic gospel

Oooooooh, elaborate on this one!

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: - John is a gnostic gospel

Oooooooh, elaborate on this one!

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: Freddie was a buttfucker

Gr8 King Rat wrote:

Atheist wrote: sure i agree but you have to admit that religion is bad thing that destroys peoples lifes

No, its idiots like you that are fucking up this world. A world without faith is NOT a good thing. I'm seeing it right here in my own country. More and more people are turning away from God, and this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

redspecial85 wrote:

Atheist wrote:

SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: Oh please! Freddie was a great singer, and musician, but he is not comparable to Jesus Christ! That's a gross blasphemy! Why don't you retards create your Freddie religion, and wear a T-Shirt with Freddie's face. And people will think you are crazy!

and you christians arent retarded and crazy believing in a story book of lies and wearing a cross around your neck? its like wearing some torture symbol. THAT is crazy

Athiest, You should really do your homework a little better on the reasoning behind Christian faith, if you're such an expert on the subject of faith and religion, why don't you back all that trash talk up with some common sense and intelligence?

True Christianity is about having a relationship w/ God...its not about persecuting people, its about setting people free, among other great things.

Its the "religious fanatics" here in Western Society, who have gone around accusing and condemning people; those people have given Jesus a bad rap. It INFURIATES ME!!! Those people aren't TRUE CHRISTIANS!!!

These fanatics and the damned media have painted a very bad picture of Christianity.

I simply don't see how one could create a religion around Freddie Mercury. As a writer, musician, and performer...he's had a tremendous influence on me. But Freddie Mercury wasn't Jesus Christ. I love Queen's music but I don't worship them...

Before WWII, any discussion among educated people reguarding Israel becoming a sovereign state again was quite a joke among people in positions of authority.

Biblical prophecy said it would happen. They were occupied and slapped around for almost 3000 years under the yoke of the Persians, the Romans, and the Byzantine Empire (among several others). And to the shock and suprise of the international community; in 1948, Israel became its own sovereign nation.

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

jkdrummerboy wrote: hello again you fucking piece of SHIT.If you think you hurt my feelings you must be fucking reterted!!! You are nobody in my eyes and I wouldn't even waste my spit on you!!! Once again you are a fucking piece of SHIT who doesn't deserve to LIVE...

Oh boy, how nice. A religious nut. Did you know that Jesus was either not immaculately conceived or female?

Sparrow wrote: from what i understand the definition of a 'virgin' back in the day usually referred to someone who was 'not married yet' and not nessesarily saying that someone hasnt had sex yet

im going to hell...anyway...

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Sparrow wrote: from what i understand the definition of a 'virgin' back in the day usually referred to someone who was 'not married yet' and not nessesarily saying that someone hasnt had sex yet

Actually, the focus on Mary's virginity came from a mistranslation. In the late first century, the gospel writers were using a Greek translation of the Old Testament called the Septuagint. At the time it was written, the Greek word "parthenos" meant "young woman", but over time, it evolved to mean "virgin". Anyone who has studied ancient Greek knows that... as long as they don't let their traditional beliefs hinder their work. And that's the problem... you'll have a tough time finding someone who can properly translate ancient Greek for this reason. Most books will report that "parthenos" means "virgin", but they will omit that it originally meant "young woman". Even most of the scholars are trying to protect what's left of Christianity.

im going to hell...anyway...

Only if you believe it exists... which it doesn't. Christianity invented the idea of hell. Read the history books... it didn't "exist" before. And Thomas... thanks for the links on "Gnostic John". Fascinating stuff.

Sparrow wrote: but thats interesting about the mistranslation, i never knew that. so i guess i was sorta close? :p

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: bah. how come this thread won't die...? okay. wrong question to ask when this forum is filled with people against christianity so, nevermind.

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Oh, Bob, Hell did exist before Christianity. In fact, it was named after a Norse goddess 'Hel' (who was a daughter of Loki, and therefore not really a god, as Loki himself was a descendant from the Giants, but was allowed to reside in Asgaard anyway, and for some reason equal in status to the Gods, a weird, long story). There is no doubt that she ruled something that was a true hell, as Nivlgard existed of cold, poisonous myst. There is, however, quite a lot of doubt as to who actually went there. Also, Judaïsm (though originally devoid of any sort of afterlife) mentions 'hades' several times in what we call the Old Testament. Then there were the ancient Greeks, who had three sections in the afterlife: Elysion, where the heroes resided (heaven), Tartaros, where the wicked were punished, and some weird meadow ruled by Hypnos and Thanatos where the rest of 'em flew around as some kind of bats for all of eternity.

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

<font color="indigo"><b>friedchicken \m/ wrote: bah. how come this thread won't die...? okay. wrong question to ask when this forum is filled with people against christianity so, nevermind.

Are you really so damn stupid?

Zebonka12 wrote: Take it from me, 'Hell' as an idea would've existed as long as we have. I'm not a parent, I'm just an uncle, but it's a lot easier to control people when you have something threatening like ghosts/hell/etcetera on your side. So I'm sure it would've been invented rather early on, to control primitive people who'd go for any old guff.

Zebonka12 wrote: Take it from me, 'Hell' as an idea would've existed as long as we have. I'm not a parent, I'm just an uncle, but it's a lot easier to control people when you have something threatening like ghosts/hell/etcetera on your side. So I'm sure it would've been invented rather early on, to control primitive people who'd go for any old guff.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Very little around us is going to improve on a grand scale until this idea dies, because at the moment, very few people are willing to give up their traditions no matter what peace it would bring.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Very little around us is going to improve on a grand scale until this idea dies, because at the moment, very few people are willing to give up their traditions no matter what peace it would bring.

Too many people feel the only way peace can come about is if everyone else believes in their god. They will never see THEIR religion as being the cause of grief or anger. It's always the fault of other religions or of the non-believers. Someone right here in this thread said something to that very effect - that the problems with his country (the USA, I believe) are such because people have turned away from "god". As long as there are extreme and warped perceptions such as that, peace will forever be out of our reach.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote: Too many people feel the only way peace can come about is if everyone else believes in their god. They will never see THEIR religion as being the cause of grief or anger. It's always the fault of other religions or of the non-believers. Someone right here in this thread said something to that very effect - that the problems with his country (the USA, I believe) are such because people have turned away from "god". As long as there are extreme and warped perceptions such as that, peace will forever be out of our reach.

MamaQueen wrote: Religion don't kill man... Man with religion kill man.

rockyracoon wrote: Ahhhh.......So what will it take to bring peace?

rockyracoon wrote: Ahhhh.......So what will it take to bring peace?

fightingdove wrote: Wow! I can't believe this thread is still going! Pretty soon you guys will prove or disprove the existence of God! Keep going, fucking fucktards!

magicalfreddiemercury wrote: Two very simple things you'd think humans - the advanced species - would be capable of. Acceptance and empathy. Acceptance of others whose beliefs (not only religious) may or may not be the same. Empathy for those in need - whether it be a neighbor feet away or around the globe. Though it's loaded with bumps and ruts, the road to peace is remarkably short.

you_rock_my_socks06 wrote: Well whether religion is true or not I do believe that in some terms it is a very good thing to have. It prevents God-fearing people from committing crimes and murders. It creates kindness and relief from those who put others before themselves. Also the idea of Heaven as an afterlife is a nice thought to have as it creates hope for those people say who are terminally ill and its a nice feeling for them, to believe that death is not the end but merely the beginning. It will also keep people going, those who beleive that they will be reunited with a dead loved one.

you_rock_my_socks06 wrote: Well whether religion is true or not I do believe that in some terms it is a very good thing to have. It prevents God-fearing people from committing crimes and murders. It creates kindness and relief from those who put others before themselves.

AmeriQueen wrote: In short, I applaude anyone willing to bash religion, humanity's worst disease.

Atheist wrote: yeah you are right, i guess if people is stupid enough to believe in it then it gives them hope and meaning which is a good thing.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Atheist wrote: yeah you are right, i guess if people is stupid enough to believe in it then it gives them hope and meaning which is a good thing.

It has nothing to do with intelligence. I know a lot of intelligent religious people and a lot of ignorant atheists.

Atheist wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Atheist wrote: yeah you are right, i guess if people is stupid enough to believe in it then it gives them hope and meaning which is a good thing.

It has nothing to do with intelligence. I know a lot of intelligent religious people and a lot of ignorant atheists.

yeah but atheists are still smarter because they dont follow man made fairy tales of lies instead of facts that we are just animals

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Atheist wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Atheist wrote: yeah you are right, i guess if people is stupid enough to believe in it then it gives them hope and meaning which is a good thing.

It has nothing to do with intelligence. I know a lot of intelligent religious people and a lot of ignorant atheists.

yeah but atheists are still smarter because they dont follow man made fairy tales of lies instead of facts that we are just animals

Looks like you're not part of the group of "smart atheists", aren't you?

Atheist wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Atheist wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Atheist wrote: yeah you are right, i guess if people is stupid enough to believe in it then it gives them hope and meaning which is a good thing.

It has nothing to do with intelligence. I know a lot of intelligent religious people and a lot of ignorant atheists.

yeah but atheists are still smarter because they dont follow man made fairy tales of lies instead of facts that we are just animals

Looks like you're not part of the group of "smart atheists", aren't you?

smart enough to not believe in bullshit stories :)

inmydefence wrote: I mean, what is racism? Hatred of someone for the colour of their skin (amongst other things). What makes hatred of religion any different?

The fact that there are literally millions, maybe thousands of millions of people who have a faith. Surely thats got to count for something? Or should I just label the majority of the human population as deluded?

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: I certainly believe there is a higher being or force of some kind, but not in the traditional sense. I see it as a force that we cannot tangibly understand. My denial of ancient fables is not a denial of the ultimate. I simply believe that no human-created religion or system of belief can fathom what the ultimate is. We are limited. The ultimate is not.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: You speak of the growing dialog between science and religion. It's a great thing that the two are trying to work together, but by no means are they on level ground. Science is the process by which we prove things to be true or untrue by testable measures, whereas philosophy (which encompasses religion) covers everything else, without requiring any kind of proof. Philosophy can be a beautiful and creative thing, but religion can become a problem when people turn it into a science, and insist that their convictions are undoubtedly true. They can force impressionable children to believe what they tell them to believe by threatening them with hell, and they can even go as far as killing someone who disagrees with them. Whoever said the world was progressing? Sure, we can build a good computer, but most of us don't know the difference between tangible and intangible things. If we did, we wouldn't have schools where "intelligent design" is taught as a science, and we wouldn't have several religious wars going on right now.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:
Back to the old stories themselves. Most people of whatever degree of faith don't know when these stories were written, who wrote them, why they were written, and all the compilations of the translation process. That aside... they are just stories. Mere words. Words are just words until you believe them, and then they can have extraordinary power. Christianity and many other religions offer answers to the ultimate questions of life. I personally see people who cannot live without these concrete answers as being weak people in one way or anot

<Font color=Puce>Deakys...<h6>Microwave? wrote: what's the go with everyone writing so much? I mean sheesh, who reads it all?