QueenZone discussion #694625

Pim Derks wrote: I've got the Tim Rice edit of Golden Boy. Let me know if you're interested in trading :)

Zeni wrote: What's the history of the Phantom tracks by Freddie? I'd heard rumors that he recorded them, but for what reason? Was this done for fun or was it planned for some other project?

John S Stuart wrote:

Lester Poopham wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that Shove It was a Roger Taylor solo album in all but name. I'm sure the others may have contributed here and there, but I always thought Roger played most of the instruments on most of the songs. Also, I believe Brian played guitar on 'Love Lies Bleeding' (or was it 'Love On A Tightrope'?) and John played bass on a few tracks.

Lester: (Why the change of name?) As you know, this is just a cataloguing/discography exercise, so I am restricted in what I can write under that remit. The final released LP was (in name at least) by the Cross. Whether we accept this info as accurate (or not) is NOT really open to interpretation, as this is what we have as a matter of record. If one owns this album, then they also own the Brian and John contributions also - so personally, I see no need to repeat this info especially under either the Brian or John headline. I know that you mean well, but, as far as released tracks are concerned, this is the most accurate info we have to hand.

La Japanaise

Golden Boy

Guide Me Home Album (Segued) Version 2:39 - Polydor POLH 44 Alternative (Segued) Version 2:49 - Solo Collection: 527 9640 Instrumental 2:37 - Solo Collection: 527 9640 Promotional Video - Unreleased:

Shove It CD/ 7”3:26 Version - Virgin CDV 2477 2nd Shelf Mix 5:49 - Virgin CDV 2477 12”/ CDs 4:59 (Metropolix) - Virgin VST 1026 Sweden LP Remix - Wanted: Promotional Video - Unreleased: Home Video

Rough Justice CD 3:22 Version - Virgin CDV 2477 US CD 4:13 Mix - Virgin Records America 7 90857-2

Manipulator UK 12" 4:09 Extended - Virgin VST 1100 UK 7" 3:51 Edit - Virgin VS 1100

Bohemian Rhapsody Album Version / 7" - EMI 24 12" Extended Version - 12 EMI 24 Promotional Video - Unreleased: Home Video

Life With Brian* Album Version / 7" Version - Cash In Compilation: DOJO CD 152

Pim Derks wrote: "However, as it is neither 'THAT' different, or 'THAT' rare, perhaps you could consider uploading instead" Where could I upload it ? RapidShare doesn't allow copyrighted material and I'm not going to put it on my own webserver due to bandwidth restrictions...

JeroenG wrote: Thank you so much again! A few things I may add?

La Japanaise

I think it's called 'La Japonaise' with an O, not A :)

Golden Boy

Same thing, wasn't it officially called 'THE golden boy'?

Guide Me Home Album (Segued) Version 2:39 - Polydor POLH 44 Alternative (Segued) Version 2:49 - Solo Collection: 527 9640 Instrumental 2:37 - Solo Collection: 527 9640 Promotional Video - Unreleased:

There are two different stand alone versions too: 2:45 - from the Dutch CD-single (2000) Parlophone 7243 8 89664 2 9 2:42 - from the German Lancia promotion CD

Shove It CD/ 7”3:26 Version - Virgin CDV 2477 2nd Shelf Mix 5:49 - Virgin CDV 2477 12”/ CDs 4:59 (Metropolix) - Virgin VST 1026 Sweden LP Remix - Wanted: Promotional Video - Unreleased: Home Video

Rough Justice CD 3:22 Version - Virgin CDV 2477 US CD 4:13 Mix - Virgin Records America 7 90857-2

I always wondered what this was with Metropolix mix, extended mix & the 2nd shelf mix, and with the short ending part of the album. As far as I see it the ending part of the album is a short track on its own, made especially to end the album properly in style of the track 'Shove it', just like the European version started with it. So that would make only ONE version of 'Rough justice' Also as far as I know the 'extended mix' en 'the 2nd shelf mix' are exactly the same, except for (again) the last minute of 'the 2nd shelf mix', which is actually this 'Shove it album ending' or whatever you call it. Also if I am right the 'Metropolix' mix is almost the same as the regular album version, except that it is very very slightly remixed. As far as I can hear only some reverbs etc are different. Anyone has different opinions about this?

Manipulator UK 12" 4:09 Extended - Virgin VST 1100 UK 7" 3:51 Edit - Virgin VS 1100

I know that officially both tracks are called '7" version' and 'extended', where the 7" version is seen as the regular version. But practically I see the 'extended' version as the regular version and the '7" version' as edited. Just listen and you'll hear that the extended version hasn't really been extended, it's just that the 7" version has some things edited out. Just wanted to share my vision on this with you. Anyone agrees or has a different opinion?

Bohemian Rhapsody Album Version / 7" - EMI 24 12" Extended Version - 12 EMI 24 Promotional Video - Unreleased: Home Video

Practically seen the 12" version is actually SHORTER than the album/7" version, because it is ended abruptly when a bandmember makes a mistake and the band stops and goes on playing 'Pretty Woman' instead.

Life With Brian* Album Version / 7" Version - Cash In Compilation: DOJO CD 152

As far as I can remember the 12" version is longer than the 7" version of this track. Both tracks ofcourse found on 7" wether 12" record of 'Bohemian rhapsody'.

Lester Poopham wrote: John, thank you for the posts, and sorry if my questions have been far too confusing in the past, namely my question regarding the proper identification of the original 'Kind Of Magic' extended or edit versions. I just naturally found that interesting and thought I could've gotten some kind of discussion going, but clearly that was the wrong area to bring it up. Regardless, these are very informative and interesting; I always look forward to these.

Serry... wrote: Thanks, John! Some points: "Love lies bleeding" (single version) is not a straight edit of album version, but a little bit different version with some bits, which are absent from album version. "The Cross" in reality was mostly Roger/Spike work, than the Cross album, one of the evidences of that in the booklet "Thanks to: ......., Spike Edney". I think it's a little bit strange when the Cross thanks Spike Edney... (Just imagine "Innuendo" sleeve: "Special thanks to Freddie Mercury") :) Barcelona 1992 BBC version - is also known as "TV edit". "Talking Of Love" - promo video exists also HFE promo video... Well, I already wrote about it in AKOM chapter :) About Phantom Of The Opera and instrumental tracks, please read old John's topic: link

YourValentine wrote: Great work as usual. There is really nothing to add. "Dutch Gigen Willi TV Show Appearance" This was a German (not Dutch) TV show and it was called 4 Gegen Willy (it means "4 against Willy") I think I alsmost never saw this correct because the title of the show is so unusual and makes no sense for no-German speakers. In 1987 the "Magic Years" video documentary was released. Would you add it to your list althought it's not really music? It has some rare live video footage, for example WWTLF in Knebworth 1986 which was not released anywhere else.

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

John S. Stuart 1992 US CDs Promo Night & The City Film 3:18 - Hollywood PRCD-10202-2

Is this the same version that features at the end of the film? I believe the film-version was accidentally different from any other version, including this one.

John S Stuart wrote: trying to 'find a more correct truth'.

sparverius wrote: Sorry for being a bit (or maybe considerably) off topic here. JSS, I posted a question regarding a reported unreleased Queen track from the ANATO era on the "Unreleased songs" thread but it seems to have got lost among the "Freddie's penis" and "Freddie's last picture/interview" topics. I wonder if I could divert your attention to this topic. The thread is currently on the third page of the Serious Discussion forum. Thanks.

M. wrote:

John S Stuart wrote: trying to 'find a more correct truth'.

"4 Gegen Willy" is wrong, the correct title of this ARD broadcast is either "Vier gegen Willy" or "4 gegen Willy". ;-)

John S Stuart wrote: Forgive me, but exactly what is the difference between "4 Gegen Willy" - and - "4 gegen Willy".

YourValentine wrote: But in titles or headlines we have caps like in English. For example Der Große Preis was a famous TV show and the adjective (Große) was capitalized or "Wetten Dass" has caps etc etc That's really nit picking