| Scott_Mercury 09.06.2005 23:10 |
Here's the deal. Us mature fans, who were Queen fans long before there was a "Innuendo"...long before there was a "re-release" of Bohemian Rhapsody....long before there was a over-rated, unfunny movie called "Waynes World" ..... and who were fans long before the touring stopped, and Freddie's fight with his illness began... we are the real fans. I notice that the group of older, more mature fans on this website also seemed to be more accepting of Paul Rodgers doing his best on this tour. So, if Brenski, and Thomas Quinn, and Arlene...and a whole slew of others on here, that was blasting their ear drums with Freddie & Co. long before most of the "complainers" were born.... then why can't the bitchers and moaners take a hint??? Paul Rodgers isn't Freddie... yeah we know. Paul's voice doesn't wrap around some of Queen's tunes like Freddie...yep, we are aware of that. Paul doesn't have Freddie's range...or stage presence..... but then again, who does??? However, Paul Rodgers is one hell of a singer... and for most singers, they would shit their pants at the thought of filling in for Freddie on a Queen jam session.... Paul had the balls to lay it on the line, and give it a shot. And Paul hasn't been this popular since 1976. The fact is, we all LOVE FREDDIE. No one is going to replace Freddie... duh, no shit. I've had enough of the idiots, aged 12 to 18 on this website, who are trying to come out to mom and dad, and Freddie is their idol... (as of 3 months ago, so they are Freddie experts) ..... Or, 14 yr old girls, who have read 2 Queen articles, so now they are a fucking music historian. I'm laying it on the line.... if you own 4 Queen cds... but haven't "saved up yet for the others".... should you really be posting here?? If you have been a Queen fan since 2003.... what the HELL could you possibly "teach" some of these people that we AT WEMBLEY...or AT MILTON KEYES??? The smartest ass mouths, and most reliable info on here seem to come from the teenagers, who just saw Waynes World on TBS, and are now a Queen genius... or , they've just kissed a member of the same sex...liked it...and are now trying to out themselves to the folks. Meanwhile, they are Freddie experts...Queen experts.... and can conclusively tell you that Paul Rodgers sucks (Bryans Permed Poodle calls P.R. a "karoke singer").... and that Brian and Roger are money hungry moochers, who are trying to gain cash off of Freddie's legacy. I, personally, have no interest in the "2 month" , newbie, 13 yr old fans at this point...who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about. The "real fans" were there at the beginning, we'll be there at the end... I don't give a fuck if Lizi Minelli is the lead singer... I support Queen. period. S.M. |
| corki44 10.06.2005 00:04 |
Hey all queen fans are allowed to post on this website! Young or old...i happen to be in the older category but still i have some tolerance! They're coming on this website to learn and we are there to teach them. Let us older crowd teach them about this great band! |
| Scott_Mercury 10.06.2005 00:30 |
I don't have a problem with a new fan asking legit questions. I have a problem with the fact that I read stuff like "Well, I like A Kind of Magic better than Queen 2, cause, well, Queen 2 sucks.... but I don't have Queen 2, but I'll bet it sucks". "I have 3 Queen albums, and Roger is cute... and Brian is too skinny...is John gay too?? ... I'll bet he is, he looks gay... did you guys know Freddie was gay??" I am losing brain cells reading this kind of shit. |
| Serry... 10.06.2005 00:55 |
"Brenski, and Thomas Quinn, and Arlene" Thomas Quinn? Isn't our dear FLAC-lover younger than 20??? |
| Maz 10.06.2005 00:56 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: I'm laying it on the line.... if you own 4 Queen cds... but haven't "saved up yet for the others".... should you really be posting here??Sure, why not? Yes, there are a lot of younger fans who think they know it all, even though they own only 4 albums (3 of which are Greatest Hits compilations), but why should it bother me? I see it as more of a problem of being a teenager than being a new fan. Everyone starts some place. It's more important to guide them than to ostracize them. |
| RohemianBapsody 10.06.2005 03:27 |
I agree with the majority ofthe rant but ..... Liza Minelli lead singer, I would rather have baby spice :) |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 10.06.2005 04:10 |
Honestly, I don't think it should be up to one person to decide who's a true fan. And it's not fair to group all of us teenagers together based on the '14 yr old girls, who have read 2 Queen articles, so now they are a fucking music historian'. I'm fifteen and I may not have been a fan when Innuendo was released or had the chance to see the band live, but I don't think that makes me any less of a fan. I've got every album and DVD, I've read as many biographies and interviews as I can get my hands on and I plan to buy tickets to the tour the second they announce they're coming to the US. Even with that, I know that I've got a long way to go before I can be considered an expert and I know there's always more to learn. But I don't think our ages or ollections or knowledge about the band should put us up for criticism. We all love Queen and these boards should be about that - not about having to prove ourselves as fans or passing judgments about everyone else. |
| KevMull 10.06.2005 05:06 |
A lot of the younger 'tweenie' fans should start to petre off and fade away soon because.......... A LOT were 'brainwashed' by their parents as soon as they were old enough to listen to music but as they reach their early teens, puberty kicks in, other interets, peer pressure and other music will take hold. So now there will be no one to carry on the legacy unless we (the oldies) try and brainwash our grandchildren. So I guess you could really call it STEPFORDS, in the true sense of the word! |
| GreatKingSam 10.06.2005 05:46 |
I see your point Scott, and agree for the most part. But at the end of the day, new people can ask questions, but its their ignorance to not bother to look around that is a problem. Such simple questions can be found so easily answered with a bit of common sense to LOOK. But, to me, the main problem has to be people like BPP who are just idiots. At the end of the day though, more than likely they just want a reaction out of us to get their little high for the day, and we mature people who know we shouldn't answer back and just ignore it, unfortunately feel the need to answer back out of sheer frustration. And rude people who have the audacity to show know patience and criticise others for their own faults. But, I think it is unfair to perhaps put a kind of boundary towards who and who isnt a real Queen fan. I'm only 19, which isn't exactly young, but I only got into Queen properly around seven to eight years ago, but I own all albums Queen and solo, 80% on vinyl, a lot of the singles, DVDs, live performances, have been to see We Will Rock You, Party In The Park, with Paul Rodgers at Brixton and Wembley etc etc etc etc....but does all that make me a real fan? Others who may be young but can't afford all this are maybe real fans also, but because of a simple and innocent question, we scare them away from Queen with snappy replies from anger built up from others and label them rubbish fans. Maybe some people should take time to distinguish who is and isn't a pointless QueenZoner before we take the piss and tell them where to stick their stupid questions. |
| James999 10.06.2005 07:31 |
get a life - u have too much time on ur hand. there's more important things in life. get real |
| GreatKingSam 10.06.2005 07:41 |
"Get a life": how constructive. |
| 7Innuendo7 10.06.2005 07:42 |
excellent post GreatKingSam! Wisely you have chosen a great rock band. With the Force this band is. The future of this band do young padawan learners like yourself depend on. In time, you will learn to master difficult questions, such as who was Queen's original bassist, and why does the real bassist contemplate the Force these days and rarely act on it. Sith Lords like BPP can only turn you to the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys. Beware the dark side--and crank Queen as loud as it goes! |
| GreatKingSam 10.06.2005 07:52 |
Barry Mitchell, what's your point? Well, that question has given me away - I truely AM a real Queen fan. Good work there, Jedi (apparently...?!). |
| Daburcor? 10.06.2005 08:05 |
RohemianBapsody wrote: Liza Minelli lead singer, I would rather have baby spice :)And I'd rather piss thumb tacs. So, I'm not a 'real' fan because I am only 22? Because I wasn't AT WEMBLEY in 86'? Because I thought Wayne's World was a funny movie? |
| Erin 10.06.2005 09:15 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Here's the deal. Us mature fans, who were Queen fans long before there was a "Innuendo"...long before there was a "re-release" of Bohemian Rhapsody....long before there was a over-rated, unfunny movie called "Waynes World" ..... and who were fans long before the touring stopped, and Freddie's fight with his illness began... we are the real fans.So you aren't 26, like your profile says? Scott dear, your comments are ridiculous. It's wonderful for teenagers to listen to Queen. I became a fan in 1991 when I was...hello...14, so am I not a "real" fan? Absurd.. Owning all of the albums, having a big collection, and going to concerts doesn't make you a "real" fan. The way I see it..anyone who loves the music is a fan, whether you discovered Queen in '75 or '05. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.06.2005 09:35 |
I don't know that I'd agree on who the real fans are, that's pretty God like to determine who makes the cut. However, I agree with Scott's sentiments about the frustrations of dealing with unknowledgeable posters. And yes, a lot of the young posters aren't schooled enough to form a sensible debating position because they don't know the catalogue. If you grew up with Queen, you knew their ascent as an amazing hard rock band, lived it, and saw how vital they were WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING. If you got into Queen around the Magic tour, you got into a pop-rock band who still had great songs, and were great live, but were sick of each other personally and musically. So, in my world, the latter day fans missed what Queen was all about. I hate Jimi Hendrix, but it must have been mind blowing as a young person in the 60s to see a guy changing the world with his guitar. Bohemian Rhapsody blew people away when it was on the radio in the 70s. I don't know how new fans, without having an historical context to base it upon, can comment on old stuff the way that Scott, John Stuart or myself can. We've lived it, you haven't. That's why I don't post often, so many ridiculous posts about "Khashoggi's ship is awesome!!!" from newer posters, who don't know that Queen's 80s stuff is but a patch on their earlier stuff. It's like comparing Pele and David Beckham. One's a genius, one's a good soccer player. |
| Robin 10.06.2005 10:06 |
Well, as one of the "slew of many others", I gotta say I disagree. I'm 44 and have been a Queen fan since day one. I was just thrilled to come here some 3 years ago to find so many young Queen fans. I can't tell you how happy it makes me. I find it refreshing to go down memory lane when someone has a question about Queen long ago. Gosh, Roger and Brian have said themselves how cool it is to see teenagers at these latest shows. It speaks very well for the band. One point I do agree with is that it appears that we are more accepting of B&R doing new things, whatever they may be, because we love to seem them still rocking away. As for Paul Rodgers, I was so shocked and happy when I found out he was singing with the guys because I loved Bad Co. and Free. When we stacked records they were right on there with Queen so it was very exciting. Having this great band in my past, present and future is a wonderful gift and I'm glad that EVERYONE can share it. *steps down from soapbox* |
| Scott_Mercury 10.06.2005 10:22 |
The bottom line kids... if you are going to run with the big dogs, either know your shit, or sit back, and read awhile. There is such a wealth of information on this website, if you just take the time to research. I, myself, before I enter any discussion, I at first sit back, and listen to what others have said first. I be understood by others...you must first understand others. Some of us here have moved past... "Did you know Freddie was gay?? Was Bohemian Rhapsody about dying of Aids??" type questions. LINDA OF THE VALLEY....People have been complaining about you on these boards for as long as I have been here, so your reputation/age speak for itself. Then, as most 13 yr olds do... you threw a tatrum a while back...and announced "you were leaving".... now, I see we are graced with your vast 13 yrs of worldly experience again...lucky us. I have no problem with newbies liking Queen. I try to get new people, young and old into Queen all the time... What I am saying is... if you know very little about the band, and their history.... and lets say you own 4 Queen albums (3 of which are greatest hits).... Then: A) In my opinion, there are very few topics here where your input is needed.... sit back, relax, and read awhile. B) What the F are going to tell someone who stood out in the rain for 8 hours in 1977 about Queen?? Have some respect for those who loved this band before your daddy was getting to 3rd base with your mommy on their way to conceive you. |
| joshiejosh 10.06.2005 10:26 |
Well I did not get into Queen by watching Wayne's World but I did get into it by listening to 'Classic Queen' and 'Greatest Hits' the maroon colored one by the way. I'm only 18 years old so technically I was born in the magic years but i do not remember Queen being alive for I was only 5 when Freddie died. I do remember seeing the news story on television about it however. I do not have the albums, is it a money issue? No, I cannot find "The Works" or "Hot Space" anywhere to be honest. My dad did get me into Queen by having the forementioned albums and "The Game", "A Night at the Opera" and "Jazz" since than I have added all the other albums except those pesky two. As for Paul Rodgers and the whole tour, I do not hate it and i do not like it because I have not seen it because I live in Rock Hill, South Carolina and the chances of them coming anywhere near here are very slim. Now whether all of my criteria makes me a "hardcore" fan or not does not bother me because I like the music. And as for new fans, it's very inconsiderate to rag on them because they're new. They may not be Queen genius's but we all share one thing in common, we like the music. That's all that matters. |
| Erin 10.06.2005 10:38 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: The bottom line kids... if you are going to run with the big dogs, either know your shit, or sit back, and read awhile.That's kinda arrogant, isn't it? You don't own the noticeboard. This is precisely why there is a "general" section and a "serious" one. So what criteria should be set for someone to post on the board? Do they need to be at least 40, have seen Queen (with Freddie, of course) 5 or more times, own a blue BoRhap..(purchased in '75, of course)? Please specify the rules because I may not be eligible to be on here..:-I |
| Scott_Mercury 10.06.2005 10:38 |
Agreed... You need not own every album, know all history, or have went to 10 concerts to be a fan. Let me give you an idea of what I mean. I am a huge Queen fan... I have been featured on the second page (twice) of my local newspaper for my Queen collection. However, I wasn't the Houston 1977 show (which is a smoking show by the way)..... So when I meets or talk to someone that was at that show, I just shut up and let them educate me on their day. I have nothing to tell them.... they were there...I wasn't..... All I can do is learn from them what they experienced. One of first things I ever read on this website was a guy, who was at Live Aid in 1985... he typed a huge paragraph on his day there. The older, more mature, Queenzoners, where like "thanks for sharing"...."you are so lucky"... Then... out of the blue .... like a bolt of teenage stupidity....the comment I'll never forget: "I've seen that footage, Freddie was pretty good that day, I'll bet he got some dick and lots of cum the night before, thats why he was in such a good mood" This comment was brought to us by someone who still posts here regularly (I'll spare them the advertisement) .... and this genius is the ripe old age of 14. Now, if say, Eric Clapton put on a good show somewhere... would anyone say "Had to be the hot 25 yr old pussy he's bangin".... nope. But leave it to the tweens, teens, and peach fuzz public hair farmers on here to sumize that a great Freddie performance had to be the result of "getting dick". The mature fans on here seem to realize that gay + Aids made up a very small factor in the awesome band of Queen. The 10 year olds seem to dwell on these things. |
| Zander05 10.06.2005 10:42 |
Unfortunately, I was not there to see Queen in their heyday. I wasn't alive to see the debut of Jazz or anything. But I AM a fan, Scott. I'm younger than most "real fans" - but I've built up a pretty good collection (see my site), I've learned the words to every song, I've been caught by many doing impersonations of Freddie while jamming to a CD, I've stood in the blazing heat for two hours just to WAVE at Brian May (and he waved back :-D). What more do you want? I once had only four CDs. I used to be ignorant of numerous Queen facts that are now common knowledge. I was once a newbie and I came to this site to find other Queen fans to talk to. But at that time, everyone welcomed everyone with open arms. The only time anyone ever had a row was when some dumbass made comments like "Queen sucks!" I really miss that. What's sad to me is that those people I first met, I have also lost touch with. Now all I have are a bunch of whiny little assholes who bitch because someone told them to google a search or go ranting about how HORRIBLE Paul Rodgers is or people who try to lay down the line and say "only REAL fans should post here. And it is up to me to decide what constitutes as such." I must say, I miss the old days. Anyone else agree? |
| bohemian 11513 10.06.2005 10:46 |
Do they need to be at least 40, have seen Queen (with Freddie, of course) 5 or more times, own a blue BoRhap..(purchased in '75, of course)? Please specify the rules because I may not be eligible to be on here..:-IErin darling, I´m so sorry for you... but I think you´re out! :-)) Me too by the way... :-( |
| Saint Jiub 10.06.2005 10:50 |
The problem is not about teenagers. There are MANY teenagers who make good contibutions to Queenzone. The problem is continuous drivel - and SOME teenagers are the biggest culprits. |
| Scott_Mercury 10.06.2005 10:55 |
Old git = 26 yrs old (my age) Ok, so at 19, I must have had my mid-life crisis. I don't care if you are 12, 22, 42, 92... please post with care... we are all on Queenzone... we are suppose to be the cream of the crop when it comes to Queen-ism. If I read 1 more thread where Bryans Permed Poodle bashes Rodgers, where Sharon G "misses Freddie...you and only you, RIP 1991".... Or where various teenage girls bring to our attention that Roger was cute in the 70's... or this latest one, get this... I guess Freddie was gay?? I may have to pull a Linda of the Valley, and use my 7th grade resources, pretend like I am leaving, and in a climatic Hollywood ending...get everyone to ask me to please stay! |
| Erin 10.06.2005 10:55 |
bohemian777 wrote:Well..we better be hitting the road then..;-)Do they need to be at least 40, have seen Queen (with Freddie, of course) 5 or more times, own a blue BoRhap..(purchased in '75, of course)? Please specify the rules because I may not be eligible to be on here..:-IErin darling, I´m so sorry for you... but I think your out! :-)) Me too by the way... I'll go pack my things... |
| Saint Jiub 10.06.2005 10:57 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Then... out of the blue .... like a bolt of teenage stupidity....the comment I'll never forget: "I've seen that footage, Freddie was pretty good that day, I'll bet he got some dick and lots of cum the night before, thats why he was in such a good mood" This comment was brought to us by someone who still posts here regularly (I'll spare them the advertisement) .... and this genius is the ripe old age of 14. But leave it to the tweens, teens, and peach fuzz public hair farmers on here to sumize that a great Freddie performance had to be the result of "getting dick". The mature fans on here seem to realize that gay + Aids made up a very small factor in the awesome band of Queen. The 10 year olds seem to dwell on these things.Scott has been dwelling on the "gay + Aids" topics lately more than anyone. |
| doremi 10.06.2005 11:11 |
EvilTwin wrote: We all have choices on these boards, no matter what our ages or beliefs about Queen. There is a method to the madness. It's called if you don't like a poster or thier age skip the thread or post and move on. You could always start your own thread and call it.. Adult/Mature True Queen Fans Only Please, but then what would you have to bitch about? BTW...Did Brenski, Thomas Quinn, Arlene, and "a whole slew of others" Delegate you as thier spokesperson? They seem to have no problem hanging out with us little whipper snappers. It seems to me that a young fellow on these boards just took a thorough cyber beating for trying to "represent" Without young new fans, Queen would die.Thank you! While I DO appreciate what you said Scott, I would like to speak for myself. While I DO get frustrated with the newbies at times...YES...without US the older fans...TEACHING them and being patient with them and ENCOURAGING them about the wonders of Queen & Queen's music and legacy... ...Yes...Queen would die so to speak. The GREAT thing (and one of the few things about being an OLD!!!! lady me, who has loved Queen for three quarters of my life span as I am 44 and have Loved Queen since Iwas about 13 or 14, is that... ..yes...I do NOT want young people to think that the world and it's music and art began in 2005 or the last decade. I WANT young people to KNOW about and APPRECIATE and LOVE Queen (and other great music artists of the past who are STILL making music, or who have stopped making music.) One of the things I LOVE about the musicians of MY generation, such as Queen, Clapton, The Stones, The Beatles, Hendrix, was that THEY grew up wanting to LEARN about, APPRECIATE, and LOVE artists BEFORE THEM...such as Robert Johnson, classical artists, blues artists, skiffle artists, etc...and they then were INFLUENCED by these artists and had a better understanding and appreciation for ALL periods of music and music artists from those periods, past and present. Clapton STILL cherishes the great black bluesmen from a CENTURY ago, most who are long deceased...but he ENJOYS passing that torch on to today's kids and today's NEW musicians, like young blues artists such as Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Jonny Lang, Joe Bonnamassa. The late GREAT Stevie Ray Vaughan, was playing guitar at 11 years old...with HIS mentors, Albert Collins, Albert King and Buddy Guy, who were already in their 60's and 70's. Yes, those older bluesmen I'm sure were FRUSTRATED at this 11 year old white upstart from Dallas, Texas bugging & pestering them to hang around them, continually asking what may have sometimes come off as "stupid" questions...but they were HAPPIER to have a young white kid...WANT to learn all about, appreciate, and PLAY the blues, keeping that music ALIVE and passing it on to a whole new YOUNG generation of fans. For me, being one of the OLD ladies on QZ who has loved Queen for over 30 years of my life....is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. And it IS my privilege, to enjoy seeing, SURPRISINGLY, such an enormous wealth of young people...10,11 12, 13, 14 years old and such..who do NOT want to burn their brains and ears listening to Rap, Britney, & boy bands.... ...but who are discovering one of the most talented, influential, landmark bands of rock music, of music in general, etc. It's a JOY..to know of this wonderful phenomenon, and to help to ENCOURAGE and TEACH these young people. Sure...sometimes their questions "seem" stupid, to us OLD folK, (but how soon we forget that we were 12 years old and asked the same "stupid" questions,) well for me 30 years ago..about people like Robert Johnson. Being one of the older, 3 decade long fans of Queen on Qz is a bit like being a role model and teacher to these young people. ......If I think some questions TRULY are absurd, or meant to be inflammatory, I ski |
| Lord Blackadder 10.06.2005 11:41 |
I became in a fan in 2002. Does that therefore mean I'm not a real fan Scott? It would be hard for me to be a fan before Innuendo as I was about 3 when Freddie died. |
| Janet 10.06.2005 11:50 |
I am 44 years old and have been a Queen fan since 1975, and I agree with Robin. I am thrilled that the young people of today are interested in listening to Queen, and alot of the young folk here contribute wonderful things, and could tell me a thing or two. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "good" or "bad" fan. We are all here for the same reason. We enjoy the music of Queen. |
| deleted user 10.06.2005 11:55 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Here's the deal. Us mature fans, who were Queen fans long before there was a "Innuendo"...long before there was a "re-release" of Bohemian Rhapsody....long before there was a over-rated, unfunny movie called "Waynes World" ..... and who were fans long before the touring stopped, and Freddie's fight with his illness began... we are the real fans. I notice that the group of older, more mature fans on this website also seemed to be more accepting of Paul Rodgers doing his best on this tour. So, if Brenski, and Thomas Quinn, and Arlene...and a whole slew of others on here, that was blasting their ear drums with Freddie & Co. long before most of the "complainers" were born.... then why can't the bitchers and moaners take a hint??? Paul Rodgers isn't Freddie... yeah we know. Paul's voice doesn't wrap around some of Queen's tunes like Freddie...yep, we are aware of that. Paul doesn't have Freddie's range...or stage presence..... but then again, who does??? However, Paul Rodgers is one hell of a singer... and for most singers, they would shit their pants at the thought of filling in for Freddie on a Queen jam session.... Paul had the balls to lay it on the line, and give it a shot. And Paul hasn't been this popular since 1976. The fact is, we all LOVE FREDDIE. No one is going to replace Freddie... duh, no shit. I've had enough of the idiots, aged 12 to 18 on this website, who are trying to come out to mom and dad, and Freddie is their idol... (as of 3 months ago, so they are Freddie experts) ..... Or, 14 yr old girls, who have read 2 Queen articles, so now they are a fucking music historian. I'm laying it on the line.... if you own 4 Queen cds... but haven't "saved up yet for the others".... should you really be posting here?? If you have been a Queen fan since 2003.... what the HELL could you possibly "teach" some of these people that we AT WEMBLEY...or AT MILTON KEYES??? The smartest ass mouths, and most reliable info on here seem to come from the teenagers, who just saw Waynes World on TBS, and are now a Queen genius... or , they've just kissed a member of the same sex...liked it...and are now trying to out themselves to the folks. Meanwhile, they are Freddie experts...Queen experts.... and can conclusively tell you that Paul Rodgers sucks (Bryans Permed Poodle calls P.R. a "karoke singer").... and that Brian and Roger are money hungry moochers, who are trying to gain cash off of Freddie's legacy. I, personally, have no interest in the "2 month" , newbie, 13 yr old fans at this point...who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about. The "real fans" were there at the beginning, we'll be there at the end... I don't give a fuck if Lizi Minelli is the lead singer... I support Queen. period. S.M.That was a bit harsh. I'm only 14, but I don't pretend I know everything about Queen, and neither do I think I'm a "Freddie Expert". I sometimes wish I had been born a couple of decades earlier, but I wasn't, and that's life. You can't blame us for being born later than you, and therefore not seeing Queen live with Freddie. You can't blame us for liking Queen either. Would you rather no one under the age 20 likes Queen? Or you can only be a Queen fan if you have seen them live while Freddie was alive? I have only been a Queen fan for about a year, but I have already spent over £200 on their albums, on posters, on concerts, etc. This obviously does not make up for not being born earlier, and I'm sorry for that, but there's nothing I can do about that. Most of us young ones are NOT like you think we are, and we don't think we know it all. I respect all older Queen fans, especially those who saw Queen live, because they have those memories I will never have. Please think twice before labeling us all "immature&q |
| doremi 10.06.2005 12:01 |
Young QZ Padawans, Newbies...please read MY post... :) |
| deleted user 10.06.2005 12:03 |
Arlene R. Weiss wrote: Young QZ Padawans, Newbies...please read MY post... :):D |
| teleman 10.06.2005 12:04 |
Geez I don't really care who Scott Mercury thinks the real fans are. It seems pretty arrogant to be making judgments about anonymous strangers on an Internet message board. I was a teen when I discovered Queen. I heard BhoRap on the radio and had to tell my friends about it. My friend played an album that his brother owned and I recognized Killer Queen. Three decades later and I still listen to Queen but I don't obsess over them. If 26-year-old Scott discovered Queen at the time of Hot Space he would have been 3 years old. 26-year-old Scott would have been 12 when Freddie died. There are always new fans of good music and they always act like its new because it is new to them. A little thought and consideration is all that is needed. Taking the piss out of kids without showing them the way is pointless. Share the pleasure the music gives you and lighten up. A Kind of Magic is as good a place to start listening to Queen as Queen II. Respect that some people prefer the pop music Queen while others prefer the earlier Rock music Queen. It's still Queen. |
| teleman 10.06.2005 12:08 |
BTW I do think the "OMG look what Scott Mercury wrote about Freddie" thread was just plain pathetic so I'm not surprised to see this thread. LIGHTEN UP!! |
| Sharon G. 10.06.2005 12:17 |
In summeray, Freddie IS STILL the hottest looking guy I will ever lay eyes on! |
| Scott_Mercury 10.06.2005 12:34 |
My point exactly. |
| Mr.Jingles 10.06.2005 12:36 |
RohemianBapsody wrote: I agree with the majority ofthe rant but ..... Liza Minelli lead singer, I would rather have baby spice :)The only reason why Liza Minelli gets respect is thanks to the thousands (perhaps millions) of gay men who think she can sing. |
| Robin 10.06.2005 12:45 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: My point exactly.I know. Sheesh. It's obvious she meant Roger. :P |
| Lester Burnham 10.06.2005 12:55 |
I became a fan in 1993 when my mom got me a cassette tape of News Of The World for my tenth birthday, and that started a love affair with Queen that still lasts to this day. I see where you're coming from, Scott, but I don't think you're approaching it correctly. When I was growing up (yeah, sounds like I'm a lot older than I actually am), I didn't have the wonderful resource known as the internet. Most of us probably didn't. The way that I would find out information was by reading, reading, and reading some more - I would try to lay my hands on any Queen book possible, and I would just READ. I wanted to know everything about them, and I also wanted to know more about them than anybody else. I wanted to become a Queen expert. Thanks to the Internet, that has become a bit more of a reality. I've received so much great stuff from this site that I can't even begin to thank all the generous people - not only for shows or rare songs, but also for their information. John S Stuart's posts are invaluable, and there are a slew of other posters on here who know more about Queen than Queen probably ever did. Unfortunately, there are the kids nowadays (there I go again) who have more or less bypassed the acquiring of knowledge and sharing that information with everyone and have instead started to ask question after question after question. It gets on my nerves too, which is why I understand your position, but it's also comforting and pretty damn cool that, in the age of MTV and American Idol, a teenager still decides he or she would rather listen to Queen than anybody else. I was particularly surprised to see a poster by the name of "Queen 2" (I think) who just celebrated his or her tenth birthday. That's amazing that there was somebody here who was listening to Queen in the age of the single digits! However, I stop to think sometimes before I post a sarcastic response to a thread, "If I was this person's age, I would probably be asking the same question if I had the internet." You really just need to sit back and realize that this is just words on a computer screen, and it doesn't really matter how old a person is or when they became a Queen fan; we're ALL Queen's people, and that's what matters the most. |
| wstüssyb 10.06.2005 12:58 |
Basically I give a shit less, I'm smart enough to read past stuff that is full of shit. And I don't need any one telling me if I'm a fan or not of something. |
| Suigi 10.06.2005 13:50 |
Errr...why are we fighting? Just put on some early Queen, and mellow for a bit. Now, I may be 18 years old (what Mr. Mercury classifies as "too young), and I wasn't a Queen fan when he was alive (obviously), but I think I'm a pretty big fan regardless. The proof? I have the 15 studio albums, the 4 live albums, the Live@Wembley DVD, the Live Aid 4-DVD set (that cost a shitload), and enough unreleased B-sides and demos to choke a horse. So, you can see, I'm obsessed. And young. So that kinda debunks his theory of "you have to have been there to be a fan." Scott, if I misinterpreted you, please let me know. Then again, there is SOME validity to his sentiment. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, and I do feel that the younger fans, or n00bies, do disrupt a thread, a discussion of Queen with their inane comments. But then again, take a look at the diatribe in this thread. Are the elder fans that much better? I think everyone who posted here needs to take a step back, put things in perspective, stop taking posts on a message board so fucking seriously, and let logic take over from here on out. OMGWTFLOL FREDDIE WUZ GH3Y?!?!?!?!?! ... Sorry about that. |
| deleted user 10.06.2005 14:15 |
teleman wrote: BTW I do think the "OMG look what Scott Mercury wrote about Freddie" thread was just plain pathetic so I'm not surprised to see this thread. LIGHTEN UP!!So what did Scott Mercury write about Freddie? :P |
| Fairy 10.06.2005 14:24 |
Scott as I read your post I first figured you were just joking...So terribly sad to realize you were not...My only comment to your post is: who do you think you are???????? Fairy |
| QueenZeppelin 10.06.2005 14:37 |
Scott, I am a 15-year-old Queen fan. I have all of their music on my computer and their Greatest Hits and Live at Wembley on CD. I support the Queen + Paul Rodgers tour as well. I find it a tad arrogant that you say that the "true" Queen fans are the ones who were there in the beginning. I don't think a true fan needs to have been "around" since the inception of a group--or the creation of a movie or the writing of a book. In fact, the very beauty of Queen's music is that it endures and carries on to other generations who weren't even alive whent hey were in their prime...only the truly great groups have that ability...The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, etc... There are definitely some young idiots on this site who say and do annoying and immature things. However, I believe that you branding everyone who wasn't there since the beginning as a non-fan is every bit as annoying and immature as what these fools are doing. |
| Lisser 10.06.2005 14:39 |
Zeni, Lester, and William summed my feelings up on this so I'll spare you all. |
| Vad 10.06.2005 14:52 |
I believe I understand Scott, but I think he was wrong in one point: it's not about bad fans, it's about bad posters. I don't find anything wrong if a teenager asks anything they want to know (as long as it makes sense). We the older can help them, even if it's a silly question. There's always someone who cares to give a hand. The big problem comes when a nice debate or thread had started and suddenly one poster (fequently a teenager) makes a stupid statement and the flame war starts. Sadly, that thing ends the thread and starts nonsense and nasty words. That puts away the true posters and of course, the true teenager fans who really want to say or learn something. I've seen interesting threads ending in absurd private jokes or one-word nonsense, and that kind of thing kills in serious members the desire to join a thread. |
| Suigi 10.06.2005 15:47 |
In Scott's eyes, a fan yes. An expert, far from it. I guess what he's trying to say is that there should be a clearer distinction on the board between the casual fan who's got the Greatest Hits CDs and maybe ANatO or NotW, and the hard-line nutjob like me who thinks "Dog With A Bone" should've been on The Miracle. |
| RohemianBapsody 10.06.2005 16:33 |
Mr.Jingles79 wrote:Out of the 2 I would still prefer BS, but I think that picking Paul Rodgers was a perfect choice. He is around the same age as Brian and Roger and IMO has done a great job with the songs.RohemianBapsody wrote: I agree with the majority ofthe rant but ..... Liza Minelli lead singer, I would rather have baby spice :)The only reason why Liza Minelli gets respect is thanks to the thousands (perhaps millions) of gay men who think she can sing. |
| Fairy 10.06.2005 17:14 |
This is the most arrogant post I've ever seen on this forum and probably anywhere else too. I'm 34 years old. Liked Queen since childhood, but became a real fan (oops Scott thinks I'm not) after Freddie died, because well, for my personal reasons. Probably he's right though...He is the fan, which we all know stands for FANATIC. I don't feel the need to own all there is about Queen, nor to know every little detail about them, nor to boast the things I do know about them, because...I just love Freddie and Queen. Yes, I'm not a fanatic... This post is much much worse than any posts by people like BPP whom so many on here dislike. And much more childish than the posts by the newbies you are so fed up with. If this forum isn't always a nice place to be, it isn't really because of the newbies...it is mostly because of the people like you who attack them, and who waste time talking about them instead of simply letting their silly posts slip out of sight. Fairy |
| Fairy 10.06.2005 17:19 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: The bottom line kids... if you are going to run with the big dogs, either know your shit, or sit back, and read awhile. |
| iron eagle 10.06.2005 17:29 |
Real fans are those the love the music of Queen dont matter if their new or old. what matters is some should have a bit more patience with newbies... a 13 year old fan will someday be a 23 on up year old fan... i myself asked quite a few dumb arse things when i first found this place... internet was new to me... still learning on it to this day.,... as big as a fan as i am, and seeing them as many times as i have(oh you remember that SM you called me out on that a while back.) and as many conventions i have help orgainize..there is still stuff i dont know i certainly was not treated as many newbies are now here... that being said the nb was also not flooded with a bunch of shite either.... you have to learn what to read..what not to... and just let the rest of it go... treating others with contempt, arrogance, disrepect and outright ugliness does nothing but breed board flooding, fights and hatred of one another the dynamics of the Queen family being a supportive, understanding welcoming group is slowly changing to a bitter, self rightous 'i know better then you' gimme gimme gimme, i am better then you mentality... quite a shame ... |
| AwkbyName 10.06.2005 17:39 |
Ok I'll add my two-penneth, I understand what Scott meant, but I don't believe the age when a person got hooked on Queen is relevant, or even how long they've enjoyed the music. Personally I was 8, that was way back in the mists of time - no not the '90's - 1975. I'd heard SSoR on the Radio, but it was when I saw them do KQ on TotPs that I fell, first for the pretty blond and then for the band and their music. The biggest problem with some people here and yes some of those appear to be younger - I don't make a habit of looking up ages - is the whole; I'm a real fan you're not, A real fan only loves Freddie, It isn't the same without Freddie, - and the perennial favourite, When did Freddie know he had AIDs- like anyone here actually knows the moment! You could argue I'm not a true fan because I don't know which chords Brian played in the 6th minute of his solo in Osaka 1982. But what the hell I know Roger was the sexiest drummer alive on that day, so that's good enough for me. No one on this site is in the position to say what a true fan is or isn't, and I strongly object to being told what a true fan would think of this, that, or the other - especially the other. And Scott I do symathise with your - Ooh Queen on the telly! - frustrations, but all I can say is ignore it and as the wise Suigi said 'Just put on some early Queen, and mellow for a bit.' Here endeth the lesson Awk |
| begtus 10.06.2005 17:55 |
I have often thought "am I a real Queen-fan". But what is a fan,..how many concerts must you have seen, how many cd's or lp's (ya know, the big black CD's you can bent) must you have, how many pictures you must have glued in your own "Queen-srapbook" before you can call yourself a fan...... I'm 43 years old now and a Queen fan since the first time I heard "Killer Queen" on the radio. Since then Queen has been a part of my life and yes,..a part of my very soul!!! Freddie, Brian, John and Roger were Gods to me. Now I see them as very talented musicians who gave us a lot of beautiful music. Don't bother or judge about what a fan is or should be. Let the music fill your head and heart. Enjoy it, because that's what music is all about and ment for. My 12 year old son loves to listen to Queen, but also listens to Eminem, Linken Park, 50 cent, etc. and I must confess that these artist stick in my brain too!!! Freddie loved opera, but also heavey rock,...music is universal and timeless, if you have an open mind for it.... |
| DarkQueen 10.06.2005 18:22 |
Scott Mercury, YOU ARE A FUCKING SNOT-NOSED ASSHOLE!! Two steps away from being a stepford - something I quite happily taunt and dismember bit by bit until they give up or I get nuked. I skimmed most of this thread 'cos a lot of what you had to say was utter bullshit, but here's my 'polite' rebuttal to the things I did read: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!! I'm one of the 'younger' Queen fans here, I've never seen Wayne's World (well, I haven't seen the first one anyway), never kissed a member of the same sex and liked it (she was a crap kisser), and I don't give a fuck about the tour one way or another. Oh, and I don't claim to know everything about Queen. If I did, then I would be hanging round outside Roger's house right about now with a camera or I would be egging Brian for being such a snot-nosed fuck not unlike yourself. You think you're better than heaps of other Queenfans just 'cos your old. Well hon, maybe I'm not old like you, but that doesn't make me a fucking ignorant teenybopper either. Oh, and leave Linda the fuck alone. You think you know everything about this place and you've only been here two fucking months!! You'd know a lot about how this place works wouldn't you? Fuck off, wanker. I feel much better now, tearing into fucks like SM here seems to work better than coffee in the morning... :) |
| Vad 10.06.2005 19:02 |
Congratulations DarkQueen, you have explained Scott's point even better than he did. A shame :( |
| Suigi 10.06.2005 19:02 |
Again, distance yourself, my childen. This is just a post. On a message board. About Queen. Do NOT take such great offense about it. You could always just leave. Or hit the Back button. But don't sink to his level. Oh, and Scott? I do believe Freddie wants his last name back, after he heard that you're wiping shit all over it. |
| kerfuffle87 10.06.2005 19:21 |
and your meant to be the 'mature' one. a real fan, as i'm sure others have emphasised, is a person who truly appreciates Queen's music,whether they be 5 or 50. this argument is not based on any full proof. |
| MercuryArts 10.06.2005 20:39 |
iron eagle wrote: Real fans are those the love the music of Queen dont matter if their new or old. ...treating others with contempt, arrogance, disrepect and outright ugliness does nothing but breed board flooding, fights and hatred of one another the dynamics of the Queen family being a supportive, understanding welcoming group is slowly changing to a bitter, self rightous 'i know better then you' gimme gimme gimme, i am better then you mentality... quite a shame ...Well said Paul! i had a feeling we'd hear from you about this! Some people just have it out for others they feel are beneath them. Hope all is well, & that the convention is falling nicely into place. Send me an email if you get a chance Iron Eagle. Signed, Your friendly neighborhood Art Gallery owner from West Chester, PA. |
| john bodega 10.06.2005 20:50 |
The real deal eh Scott Mercury? You are a sad strange little man/woman, irrespective of age or dedication to any band. You are trying to invent some sort of moral high ground - I am actually surprised to see this in "Serious Discussion". Precisely what is a real fan, other than someone that maybe just likes to listen to Queen? I know I listen to them just about every day, but I suppose because I was born in '86, I'm not a fan? You are a tool. |
| Daburcor? 10.06.2005 21:06 |
Janet wrote: I am 44 years old and have been a Queen fan since 1975, and I agree with Robin. I am thrilled that the young people of today are interested in listening to Queen, and alot of the young folk here contribute wonderful things, and could tell me a thing or two. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "good" or "bad" fan. We are all here for the same reason. We enjoy the music of Queen.Nicely said! |
| DarkQueen 10.06.2005 21:24 |
Vad wrote: Congratulations DarkQueen, you have explained Scott's point even better than he did. A shame :(Yeah, fuck you too asshole. :) |
| doremi 10.06.2005 21:29 |
Fairy wrote: This is the most arrogant post I've ever seen on this forum and probably anywhere else too. I'm 34 years old. Liked Queen since childhood, but became a real fan (oops Scott thinks I'm not) after Freddie died, because well, for my personal reasons. Probably he's right though...He is the fan, which we all know stands for FANATIC. I don't feel the need to own all there is about Queen, nor to know every little detail about them, nor to boast the things I do know about them, because...I just love Freddie and Queen. Yes, I'm not a fanatic... This post is much much worse than any posts by people like BPP whom so many on here dislike. And much more childish than the posts by the newbies you are so fed up with. If this forum isn't always a nice place to be, it isn't really because of the newbies...it is mostly because of the people like you who attack them, and who waste time talking about them instead of simply letting their silly posts slip out of sight. FairyI agree Fairy. And if you read my post on page 2, PLEASE DO...I think that Scott stepped WAY over the line here in arrogance, intolerance, and has accepted the crown of "holier than thou". As fruitside said I am 44, a Queen fan for over 30 years, and I STILL learn new things on here and from other press, books, sources, everyday. I once heard, I can NOT remember who, some great British actor like Olivier or to that affect, who was already like 70 some years old. But he said...ANYONE who thinks thay have learned EVERYTHING...really...has learned NOTHING. Everyone, at every age, should be open and accepting to new information, ideas, facts, opinions, thoughts. If you are so arrogant to think you know it all...you actually have ALOT to learn, including in humility and grace. BUT GUYS PLEASE READ MY POST. I'm 18 years older than Scott, and I do NOT feel as he does in any way shape or form. Your humble teacher...and pupil...Arlene (Padawan) :) |
| Suigi 10.06.2005 21:59 |
I agree completely, Arlene. I feel that the music of Queen is...well, it's kinda losing its following in today's youth. As far as most of them know, Queen's music is WWRY, WATC, BoRhap, AOBTD, and if you're lucky, Killer Queen and Bicycle Race. And not much else. It doesn't help that the classic rock station here in Toronto, Q107, tends to play exclusively those tunes, and maybe Fat Bottomed Girls as well. Where's the Hammer To Fall? The Tie Your Mother Down? The Keep Yourself Alive?! I'm halfway tempted to stick a page on my website entitled "Queen Tune Of The Day." |
| Boy Thomas Raker 10.06.2005 23:08 |
While Scott may be wrong in his method of deciding fans, his points are valid regarding the knowledge or certain new (or old) posters, who know squat, but get into heated debates that they know nothing about, then get personal if you don't buy their point of view. I know more about Queen than 95% of the posters here. BFD, because I know about a tenth of what John Stuart does, or fans of his ilk. The difference is, I know enough to discuss things with John if I disagree or have a question. It pisses me off when the "bad lyrics" debate occurs, and I see the "some kind of cheese" line in Sweet Lady tossed out as cringe worthy. If you don't understand that A) the song is a conversation between a man and woman B) the line is written totally tongue in cheek, C) the line is sung 100 times more tongue in cheek than it's written, and D) he's not saying that cheese is literally sweet, you don't understand music, humour or anything relating to the two. I'm glad new folks are getting into Queen. But if you weren't alive during the 70s, you can't understand their significance in an historical perspective in how diverse their music was THEN. And if you like the 80s Queen as much as the 70s Queen, that's great, but then you have no understanding of what makes music, and what makes Queen great. 70s Queen = art. 80s Queen = commerce that was well performed. |
| Scott_Mercury 11.06.2005 00:17 |
Yeah, That is more or less what I am saying. If you want to ask questions ...fine. But don't get into heated debates if you have been a Queen fan for 4 days. I don't hate teenagers...I was one 8 years ago. I hate stupid, un-researched answers to questions. I just tend to like more of what the veteran fans discuss... I like to go deeper with Queen discussions then the same old stuff. Such as: When did Freddie die? How tall is Roger? Where is John Deacon? These are questions that the typical passing by observer may ask, if they see Freddie on tv.. "wow, I forgot he died... when was that 1991 or 1992??" That sounds like something my mom would ask. I guess I am asking for the quality of intelligence to be higher in "Queenzone". I realize , not everyone here will be a John Stuart or Rick Sky.... if you come here to learn more about this great band... welcome aboard... whether you are 12 or 82. But you don't learn by talking. I didn't mean to come down just on those born in the last 15 years. Everyone's favorite "Sharon G" has stated that Freddie is one person, "whose ass she would lick"... well, thats nice. But shit like that can be kept to yourself. She is like 33. But still = a way stupid comment. :) |
| Maz 11.06.2005 00:18 |
BHM 0271 wrote: But if you weren't alive during the 70s, you can't understand their significance in an historical perspective in how diverse their music was THEN.Bollocks. That's like saying that we can only truly understand the period we lived in, thus negating the need to study history at all. I'll concede that those not alive in the 70s might need to put more effort into understanding Queen's significance during the decade, but it's far from a lost cause. |
| teleman 11.06.2005 00:41 |
I find it interesting that someone as young as a 26 year old is chastizing younger fans because they weren't there in the beginning. At 26 years of age you were not there in the beginning. I'll be damned if I accept anyone else's exclusionary definition of what makes a Queen fan. If you enjoy the music of Queen then I believe you are a Queen fan regardless of what any other person thinks. Seems the bigger issue here is treating other posters with respect. Since this is an anonymous message board there are going to be attetion seeking and inflammatory posts. Relax, listen to some music and have a good weekend. |
| Suigi 11.06.2005 02:29 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Yeah, That is more or less what I am saying. If you want to ask questions ...fine. But don't get into heated debates if you have been a Queen fan for 4 days. I don't hate teenagers...I was one 8 years ago. I hate stupid, un-researched answers to questions. I just tend to like more of what the veteran fans discuss... I like to go deeper with Queen discussions then the same old stuff. Such as: When did Freddie die? How tall is Roger? Where is John Deacon? These are questions that the typical passing by observer may ask, if they see Freddie on tv.. "wow, I forgot he died... when was that 1991 or 1992??" That sounds like something my mom would ask. I guess I am asking for the quality of intelligence to be higher in "Queenzone". I realize , not everyone here will be a John Stuart or Rick Sky.... if you come here to learn more about this great band... welcome aboard... whether you are 12 or 82. But you don't learn by talking. I didn't mean to come down just on those born in the last 15 years. Everyone's favorite "Sharon G" has stated that Freddie is one person, "whose ass she would lick"... well, thats nice. But shit like that can be kept to yourself. She is like 33. But still = a way stupid comment. :)OK, so I did misunderstand your message, Scott. <freddiequote> My apologies, but I'll say what I want. Y'know what I mean? </freddiequote> If I had my way, stupid people would be shot on sight. And since all of us here on the boards have mastered computers, I think that none of us are stupid. However, we have stupid episodes. When you do, just bounce around the house till 2 in the morning. And not post here. Thanks. |
| Fairy 11.06.2005 05:17 |
LOL Scott. So you want a higher level of intelligence on these forums? And you think this post is an intelligent one? Who Scott thinks is a true fan...LOL...Who are you? You're nobody, just like me or anyone else on here. I grew up with Queen music...you did not! But I don't think this is anything to boast. It is not a merit...it just happened. And if I was 65 and only yesterday started liking Queen, that wouldn't be something to be ashamed of. And since I'm older than you, 34, I can teach you some things about life. When you don't like a post, the topic or the poster who posts it, you can simply scroll down to the next post and enjoy those. If a good post becomes annoying, you can just consider it done with and move to the next, or create new ones yourself - which will certainly be intelligent... There are certainly many posts I don't like. I simply go further, because I tell myself that well, if others are replying to them then it means there are people who like them...Who am I to decide if they're good or bad posts? But the worst aspect of this thread is that we are required to PROVE that we're fans. Look we get judged all or lives: in school, in the ofice, when we perform, sing, dance, when we go on a date....! I'm not going to let anyone judge me for something that I do from the heart, i.e. liking Queen and loving Freddie. BTW: if you never had a spiritual encounter with Freddie, as I did, then you're not a true fan because Freddie didn't come to you!! How do you like that?? LOL Relax and come back to Earth. Fairy |
| Fairy 11.06.2005 05:25 |
Arlene, I now read your post on page 2, thanks for telling me...There are so many posts on this thread I didn't see it. I agree with you. Maybe we should create a separate forum for newbies! As absurd as it sounds, someone had suggested it a while back. I certainly am not a newbie, but I don't know which forum I would join if it happened...Sometimes being with silly newbies is better than being with knowledgeable oldies who will look down on you and scorn you if you dare ask a question which to them is obvious. As long as being a fan is considered a merit, just like a diploma or something of the kind, the forums will never be a place where people can relax and have a good time. These judgmens are annoying me much more than the silly posts about how tall Freddie is, or the various top 5 songs in each album. Ps. Arlene, could you email me? I wanted to send you an email but I couldn't find your address. Thanks Fairy |
| Scott_Mercury 11.06.2005 07:45 |
Fairy- I'm real happy to see you have this problem with me all of a sudden, if you would do your research, and put 2 + 2 together, the stupid title of this thread is meant as a joke to the user "Fruitside" who posted a thread that read: "OMG, look what Scott Mercury wrote about Freddie" What I wrote about Freddie, is that he used to have all male romps on a regular basis, where he would sometimes be with up to 5 men a night. (Which is 100% factual by the way, by several reliable sources account) Then Fruitside, who happens to be 19, came on...absolutely could not believe that a rich, powerful, famous, homosexual rock star would EVER come up with the idea of indulging in more than one sex partner at a time... he called me a liar, assured me he was telling Freddie what I said , then he started the "Oh my god" thread. While I was serious about being tired of 4 month fans arguing false Queen facts like a trial lawyer, the name of this thread "Who Scott thinks the real fans are".... was purely just a stupid, bullshit, jokingly used title as a pun on Fruitside using my name in a useless thread. Again, I assumed everyone got this. Wow, I guess that went over some heads. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 11.06.2005 08:27 |
What I should have said, Zeni, is that Queen's 70s output was totally diverse at a time when radio was totally diverse. To appreciate the impact Bohemian Rhapsody (and the video for it) had, you had to be around to understand the magnitude of the song's impact. I'm not saying that a teenager can't like or understand the song like an older fan can, but they are looking at it differently. I can't tell people who lived through WW2 that I know what they lived through, because I didn't and can't. That's how I meant to express my thoughts re: living at the time when Queen's music was art. |
| Fairy 11.06.2005 08:39 |
Sorry I didn't get the meaning of the subject line...But we are not supposed to be reading each and every post, and the joke doesn't change the meaning of your post, and what I think about it. If you have a problem with one poster, then I think it would be more correct to address him or her without generalizing. I have nothing against you in particular. I dislike your attitude (and you're not the only one), which only contributes to making the atmosphere on the forums less enjoyable. It's not nice to be afraid of being scorned each time one posts... Fairy |
| Eviltwin 11.06.2005 09:51 |
Sad |
| Wombat 11.06.2005 10:05 |
sm is right. doesn't matter if you're an old or young, but if you started listen to queen yesterday you don't have to teach someone who listen for 20 years. |
| Erin 11.06.2005 10:22 |
Hmm..I'm 2 years older than Scott.. I recall my family had The Game LP that we would listen to when I was a youngun'. So I suppose that would make me a "fan" in 1980, when I was 3, and Scott didn't become a fan until '82... SCORE!!! ;-P |
| brENsKi 11.06.2005 11:23 |
so the "older" thread starter thinks it wrong for the youngsters to have opinions and "spout off" 1. without the youngsters there is no future of queen - no albums getting bought no new audience = Bri & Rog retire 2. I was a queen fan in 1974, and i do concur that the "akom is better than queen II" notion is pure bollocks, but THEY are still entitled to their opinions....i will always love queen II first and foremost, and next queen I...but THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME RIGHT - being a "purist" isn't the only option....think about it - IF WE ALL LIKE GARAGE MUSIC, then there'd fuck-all other music in the world would there? 3, my 31 yrs of being a queen fan doesn't make me all-knowing, - there's much younger people in here (Caspar - is 18 i think), (i've no idea how old john Stuart or the Dutch Trilogy are, but i'll wager i give most of em 15+ yrs) who know a whole universe more of queen stuff than me. I'm in here to enjoy stuff and learn more, and occasionally take and receive the piss (in good humour) my only regret - thAT THE FORUMS FOR MY OTHER FAVOURITE GROUP - THE BEATLES CAN'T SEEM TO BLEND MUSIC/KNOWLEDGE /FUN THE WAY qz DOES FINALLY, How can the "minors" ever learn anything if we have a downer on them all the time? - okay - lambast, slaughter and generally obliterate the cretins AFTER they've had their "3 strikes and out" - but give em a fucking chance to grow up first! |
| doremi 11.06.2005 13:44 |
Scott, you blast so many people on here, especially newbies, but other fans too for "lame posts" about the members' of Queen's age, hair, trivial stuff. 1) That may be or seem trivial to YOU...but YOUR opinion, like everyone's is SUBJECTIVE. What seems trivial to you, and not the end all, life inspiring quest of deep holy grail knowledge, may seem important to another fan/person. Also, QZ is for discussion, and enjoyment of ALL "polite" (aka hopefully not rude/inflammatory) topics about Queen. I like "Holy Grail" topics as much as fun topics too. When I was a film major, now deceased Hollywood film Director Samuel Fuller spoke at my class. He said that film...too..is subjective. That film critics can be POMPOUS asses, not realizing that a fun, popcorn gulping cheerful flick...is as relevant TOO and has it's place TOO, as some landmark, cerebral. highbrow pseudo-intellectual dark film like Truffaut's "The Bicycle Thief" or an Akira Kurosawa film. There is ART, AND there is ENTERTAINMENT...and both have their equal places and merits... ...as both Pseudo-intellectula Topics AND FUN Topics BOTH do on Queenzone...which is what it all boils down...a forum to discuss Queen...NOT a place to HARP on or to DEGRADE people as if it were a contest as to WHO is a bigger fan, or a smarter fan or wo starts more Intellectual Topics. 2)One thing that ticks me off, and NONE of us (me included) are immune...Is being a hypocrite. But at least if you recognize it and correct your error fine. The Major thing that rankles me about your topics and posts, BESIDES your arrogance, is.... ...you consistantly rag on how much you admire Freddie as a musician/performer and that his being gay/sexual preference is irrelevant.......BUT........ ...NO OTHER person on QZ, posts as MANY, GRAPHIC, TABLOID, INDULGENT, WORDY DETAILED IRRELEVANT portraits of Freddie's gay lifestyle (AS SEEN THROUGH THE EYES OF SCOTT MERCURY)....as YOU. It's one thing, as alot of us QZ do, to bring up a sentence or 2. You go on and on about Freddie's escapades in LURID, graphic detail, (Gee I didn't know you were WITH Freddie to WITNESS this too),... ...constantly...and then you deride another person on QZ for a simple quick reference to Freddie. Your story 2 days ago about Freddie pounding "man ass", does not shock me at all about what Freddie did. I am WELL AWARE of Freddie's hedonistic lifestyle. But you sound as if you are auditioning to write for "Uncut Magazine", whose Spring Cover Story, claimed to be honoring Queen+Paul Rodgers and the legacy, influences, music of Queen, as well as Freddie.... ...BUT then Uncut Magazine spent about 10% of the time discussing Queen's music, WHY it's influential and the history of the band and the stories behind their music... ...and about 90% of the time detailing their debauchery....which is EXACTLY what YOU do, All the time. Look in the mirror buddie. People who throw stones, live in BIG glass houses. |
| Fairy 11.06.2005 13:52 |
I'm 34, and I think Queen and Queen II are the worst Queen albums except for Hot Space. This doesn't mean I don't like Queen and Queen II, but I prefer the new stuff. Many have said that Freddie's album at some point was The Game. Wow, that means he's not a real Queen fan!!! He didn't say Queen and Queen II were his favorites! LOL Fairy |
| David Lee Rocks 11.06.2005 14:29 |
Scott_Mercury wrote: Here's the deal. Us mature fans, who were Queen fans long before there was a "Innuendo"...long before there was a "re-release" of Bohemian Rhapsody....long before there was a over-rated, unfunny movie called "Waynes World" ..... and who were fans long before the touring stopped, and Freddie's fight with his illness began... we are the real fans. I notice that the group of older, more mature fans on this website also seemed to be more accepting of Paul Rodgers doing his best on this tour. So, if Brenski, and Thomas Quinn, and Arlene...and a whole slew of others on here, that was blasting their ear drums with Freddie & Co. long before most of the "complainers" were born.... then why can't the bitchers and moaners take a hint??? Paul Rodgers isn't Freddie... yeah we know. Paul's voice doesn't wrap around some of Queen's tunes like Freddie...yep, we are aware of that. Paul doesn't have Freddie's range...or stage presence..... but then again, who does??? However, Paul Rodgers is one hell of a singer... and for most singers, they would shit their pants at the thought of filling in for Freddie on a Queen jam session.... Paul had the balls to lay it on the line, and give it a shot. And Paul hasn't been this popular since 1976. The fact is, we all LOVE FREDDIE. No one is going to replace Freddie... duh, no shit. I've had enough of the idiots, aged 12 to 18 on this website, who are trying to come out to mom and dad, and Freddie is their idol... (as of 3 months ago, so they are Freddie experts) ..... Or, 14 yr old girls, who have read 2 Queen articles, so now they are a fucking music historian. I'm laying it on the line.... if you own 4 Queen cds... but haven't "saved up yet for the others".... should you really be posting here?? If you have been a Queen fan since 2003.... what the HELL could you possibly "teach" some of these people that we AT WEMBLEY...or AT MILTON KEYES??? The smartest ass mouths, and most reliable info on here seem to come from the teenagers, who just saw Waynes World on TBS, and are now a Queen genius... or , they've just kissed a member of the same sex...liked it...and are now trying to out themselves to the folks. Meanwhile, they are Freddie experts...Queen experts.... and can conclusively tell you that Paul Rodgers sucks (Bryans Permed Poodle calls P.R. a "karoke singer").... and that Brian and Roger are money hungry moochers, who are trying to gain cash off of Freddie's legacy. I, personally, have no interest in the "2 month" , newbie, 13 yr old fans at this point...who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about. The "real fans" were there at the beginning, we'll be there at the end... I don't give a fuck if Lizi Minelli is the lead singer... I support Queen. period. S.M.I see your point, but there are teenage Queen fans, such as myself, who own EVERY Queen album (and think that Queen 2 is a whole lot better than Magic), watch anything remotely to do with Queen on TV, buy EVERY Queen VHS/DVD that is released, own several biogrophy books, despite the fact that they all more or less say the same thing and the list goes on and on. I have been a Queen fan since before I can remember. What do you think of THESE people? |
| Leppar 11.06.2005 15:08 |
The moral of this thread? Come gather round me (And if you are lucky, i might let you sit on my knee) and let Leppar teach you about proper music ie Def Leppard - AND if you are very lucky i might throw in some Queen knowledge as well! So come one, come all (No sexual jokes about those last four words please) and listen to the man - the legend - that is Leppar. :) Because it's obvious that what Scotty is trying to say is he wants more threads about the amazing Def Leppard. :P |
| brENsKi 11.06.2005 15:31 |
Fairy wrote: I'm 34, and I think Queen and Queen II are the worst Queen albums except for Hot Space. This doesn't mean I don't like Queen and Queen II, but I prefer the new stuff. Many have said that Freddie's album at some point was The Game. Wow, that means he's not a real Queen fan!!! He didn't say Queen and Queen II were his favorites! LOL , Fairyapplauds - well said - exactly as i said above mate!! "2. I was a queen fan in 1974, and i do concur that the "akom is better than queen II" notion is pure bollocks, but THEY are still entitled to their opinions....i will always love queen II first and foremost, and next queen I...but THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME RIGHT - being a "purist" isn't the only option....think about it - IF WE ALL LIKE GARAGE MUSIC, then there'd fuck-all other music in the world would there?" ...and by purist - i mean whever the majority behold as the greatest - which usually in here is ANATO |
| teleman 11.06.2005 17:58 |
Fruit Side wrote: double it up homies!Fruit Side This is the kind of crap which started all of this. Wouldn't you rather talk about Queen and their music? |
| kyassor 11.06.2005 18:00 |
Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters. For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread. Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom or create manners - common decency helps with that. If we try to treat people well then there would be no problems ... except for those that only exist to cause problems and they are not worth bothering with anyway. |
| DarkQueen 11.06.2005 18:04 |
kyassor wrote: Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters.Yeah, and fuck you for suddenly going all abusive about Linda in the nest paragraph mate. For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.Once again, fuck you you hypocritical cock-sucking asswipe. And yes, I do intend on being abusive, JUST LIKE YOU!! :) |
| Scott_Mercury 11.06.2005 23:58 |
Arlene- At the end of the day, I guess we will all contribute whatever we want to this website. Arlene... you are the last person that should be scolding anyone about long, lengthy, detailed posts... You write several chapters per post. The descriptive images about Freddie's sex life are used for 2 reasons: 1) While you will never see me harm a gay person.... and I have many gay/lesbian friends.... in my eyes ...ITS SOOOO FUNNY!! C'mon... you know comments like "pounding man ass" "all you can spray, cum buffett" ... are not things that should be said on a regular basis... but once in a while, they are good for a chuckle... so if you are gay..cool. Its still funny to me. 2) While posters such as Sharon G describe how "Freddie has an ass she'd like to lick" ... its nice to remind her that her dad probably has an ass that Freddie may have wanted to sample. If I knew Freddie, we'd totally hang out... at night, we'd go our own ways (me to my wife) ... him to the gay bars... the next day, we would hang out, totally be friends... and I'd totally tease him (jokingly) about the night before where he was on a bologna pony of some dude. I hate people who try to hide around the fact that Fred was gay. He was gay. so what.... I little joke here and there about it is ok. right? Of all the gay jokes in the world, commedians probably would quit coming up with them if no one liked them. I changed my mind... Post all the dumb shit you want, everyone. Arlene seems to have about 15 hours a day to spare to answer all questions you have. :) |
| Suigi 12.06.2005 00:12 |
Hmmm... Again, I raise the point of not taking offense to shit you find on a forum. Even funny, slurry shit. |
| kyassor 12.06.2005 07:35 |
DarkQueen wrote:I was just using Linda's message as an example as it was the last on the thread when I posted - I'm sure you are grown up enough to understand that.kyassor wrote: Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters.Yeah, and fuck you for suddenly going all abusive about Linda in the nest paragraph mate.For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.Once again, fuck you you hypocritical cock-sucking asswipe. And yes, I do intend on being abusive, JUST LIKE YOU!! :) If I looked back further I'm sure I could find similar examples from others but that was the most recent one. |
| bitesthedust 12.06.2005 11:03 |
Just to give an insight to you all about myself on this discussion... I was born in 1982 - making me 22 (23 in November). I have been into Queen for as long as I can remember, although I did not start my collection until 1994. I remember the release of The Miracle album - watching the video for I Want It All on TV-AM in 1989. Does my age classify me as a "mature fan" or not? I don't agree that "those who were fans before the touring stopped" are the real fans. What does age have to do with it? I would have loved to have been around in the 1970's but I wasn't. I've never seen Queen live, and never will do. I don't log onto Queenzone to teach people anything, I just offer my opinion as and when I see fit. |
| Lester Burnham 12.06.2005 11:44 |
Interesting, Scott, how you criticize the teenagers for posting crap on the messageboard while you yourself can't seem to escape the mindset of a teenager who giggles relentlessly when someone says something remotely sexual. The only difference is that you're the one bringing up Freddie's sexuality and your oh-so-colorful euphemisms when it's not even called for. How's that for mature, as you so plainly stated in your first post? |
| egret 12.06.2005 17:22 |
I agree with Arlene in that I also find offensive the incessant, excessive, strained gay sex descriptions that Scott frequently has posted. I believe him when he says he intends them as jokes and means no offense; I still don't like them. However, I SKIP OVER THEM because he has every right to write crap on the internet like everyone else. Censorship is worse than offensiveness. But I am glad Arlene gave voice to the viewpoint that finds them offensive. --Egret |
| brENsKi 12.06.2005 17:38 |
kyassor wrote: Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters. For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.i think that there is a distinction to be drawn between "abusive" and "less tolerant" - linda is less tolerant..(but why not?)..(apols if i sound patronizing Linda, i wasn't ) everyone has their thresholds....and let's face it we get enough cretins in here to fill Broadmoor....so i think the 2saner2 amongst us are fully justified in taking leave of our senses once in a while when the tw*ts demands it!!! |
| doremi 13.06.2005 12:16 |
egret wrote: I agree with Arlene in that I also find offensive the incessant, excessive, strained gay sex descriptions that Scott frequently has posted. I believe him when he says he intends them as jokes and means no offense; I still don't like them. However, I SKIP OVER THEM because he has every right to write crap on the internet like everyone else. Censorship is worse than offensiveness. But I am glad Arlene gave voice to the viewpoint that finds them offensive. --EgretThank you. Scott. I saw your post to me. 1)I didn't articulate something to you correctly. I don't mind at all the length or detail of your posts and topics. What I mind...is what you go on and on about which is... 2) Look, I, and everyone on QZ jokes about all sorts of things. But you enjoy so much, HARPING on and on, over and over, very GRAPHIC, LURID, I would say, intentionally exploitative sexual (particularly what comes off as pointedly gay bashing) remarks...NOT just about Freddie..but any artist you want. (I remember when you called Constantine from American Idol something to the effect of "such a Gay singer,") not in informing us at QZ of his preference, but in ragging on him....but what does name calling him..and with a sexual preference..which IS gay bashing...have anything to do with how good or bad his performance was? That's not just joking. There comes a time when something is no longer a joke, and comes off as downright attention seeking on your part, and degrading to Freddie (and to gay people), and to straight people who are offended by it's overuse/abuse. Like I said, it's as if you are auditioning to write for a tabloid, or sitting in a men's lockeroom. Just remember...that even in the real comedy entertainment world... ...remember comedian Andrew Dice Clay..who became famous for using such prevalent, prominent woman bashing, sexually oriented, misogyny in his jokes...that at FIRST...he became famous for...BUT then...the "jokes" wore off and a very public BACKLASH happened, even when he was supposed to guest on "Saturday Night Live", and the female members of the cast..REFUSED to go on, if HE did, and his career....ended. You have some nerve stating how immature the younger QZ fan posters are. Again, you are an extreme hypocrite. And you take delight in regaling everyone on QZ with LURID jokes and stories of Freddie's debauchery. Again, I know all about that from the tabloid press who have gone on about it enough. Like Egret said...I could skip your posts...but the reason I didn't skip over this one was I wanted to take issue with you in how I didn't like this hypocritical topic you started, which is degrading, generalizing, and putting down all of the younger fans on QZ or people who you said do NOT think through before they post something and post junk..and according to you..thay post sexually titalating fodder.. ...(Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black!)...Do you EVER see yourself Scott...????Really. ...and you said that people should only post topics and posts that are intelligent and well intended. Look who's talking! I worked with 2 bands and believe me the sexual escapade stories they told when we were on break could curl some people's hair. I expected that from a group of wasted rockers, talking amongst themselves. But I do NOT expect such immature, inflammatory, tabloid fodder..that you delight in regaling we at QZ on about. Contrary to popular belief, this is a FAN forum, not a group of band roadies and members trying to one up one another on the tales of their debaucheries. Get a life. And stop generalizing with age demographics on here or your definition of who a TRUE Queen fan is or who should post on here. You are not Stalin or a dictator. Stop acting like one, and again look in the mirror. You yourself post topics and posts that are as immature or inflammatory..or worse..t |
| john bodega 13.06.2005 13:14 |
Heh bad taste jokes, I laugh at those all the time, I'm evil. I can't help it, just the look of indignation my sister gets when I drop the 'N' bomb. Good times. Hey, I read this thread and struggled to figure out if it had any relevance, so I took a little test. I walked over to my sister and said 'I just read who Scott Mercury thinks the real fans are!'. My sister went 'who??'. Case closed. |
| Joker 13.06.2005 14:49 |
scott....you cant tell anyone where and when they can post on the forums. these forums are for people of ALL ages who ARE Queen fans not just those people who saw them live in their glory days or who were there when freddie got aids. it says on your profile that you are 26, well heres a tip start acting like it instead of acting like a 2 year old. be mature and accept that there are people that are my age (15) and younger posting on these forums about what they think of Quen ect. so just to wrap it up......GROW UP!!! |
| Sharron .G 13.06.2005 14:57 |
Well I'd still use my tongue to claen Freddie's asshole out if he asked me to. I love him. sorry. We love and miss you. You and only you. Queen 1973-1991 RIP |
| bohemian 11513 13.06.2005 15:21 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: Obvioudsly, scotty boy here is very indecisive as he's changed his mind half-way through that Queen fans actually DON'T have to be old to be true lovers of the music.. *sigh*Always thought he´d wanted us to "use our brain", no matter what age ?! ;-) |
| doremi 13.06.2005 16:53 |
bohemian777 wrote:All that matters, on this forum, is that you love Queen, their music, and want to discuss it.<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote: Obvioudsly, scotty boy here is very indecisive as he's changed his mind half-way through that Queen fans actually DON'T have to be old to be true lovers of the music.. *sigh*Always thought he´d wanted us to "use our brain", no matter what age ?! ;-) It is totally irrelevant (as with anything in life) what your age is, your creed, color, sexual orientation, gender, religion, nationality. Actually, Scott's view is biased, close minded, and in a way, bigoted. Here in the USA, bias against age is considered bigotry and discrimination. Either that...or Scott is just an arrogant simp who wants the world to think Scott wrote the BIBLE History of Queen. And with respect to Sharon G...I think Scott would smack down any one who does not conform to Scott's idea of Freddie worship..which actually... ..I do NOT feel if Freddie were alive, I feel that Freddie would NOT appreciate at all. Scott sounds like the very jerk Axl Rose who claims to this day to LOVE and ADMIRE Freddie as an influence and musical hero, but is a gay basher. And didn't Freddie say that he would SPIT in Axl Rose's face. I don't think Freddie would think Scott's idea of "playful" joking about Freddie's sexuality (being gay) would have been something Freddie would have liked, in any way shape or form. Scott's overt gay bashing does not come off as joking to me but at all, but as latent gay bashing. |
| RohemianBapsody 13.06.2005 19:10 |
<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote:Lester Burnham (page 3) puts it more succintly about my thoughts from Scotts original thread, but I would still prefer BS to pissing thumb tacs.Dan Corson wrote:exactly..RohemianBapsody wrote: Liza Minelli lead singer, I would rather have baby spice :)And I'd rather piss thumb tacs. So, I'm not a 'real' fan because I am only 22? Because I wasn't AT WEMBLEY in 86'? Because I thought Wayne's World was a funny movie? |
| Knute 13.06.2005 20:41 |
Dang! How did I miss this thread? This is the first night I ever saw it. I need to pay more attention. :P |
| doremi 13.06.2005 20:44 |
Knute wrote: Dang! How did I miss this thread? This is the first night I ever saw it. I need to pay more attention. :PI detect a tinge of..sarcasm. NAAA! LOL! |
| Knute 13.06.2005 20:46 |
It's true Arlene! This is the first night I've read this and it's so freakin' hilarious. It's a great thread! I may not agree with everything Scott says but his writing cracks me up. We all need to be less uptight at times. |
| rc 14.06.2005 07:50 |
Scott---->shove it. We're all Queen fans here. |
| doremi 14.06.2005 11:14 |
celli wrote: Scott---->shove it. We're all Queen fans here.I second that emotion. |
| Sharron .G 14.06.2005 12:09 |
Arlene, I can see all these dumb kids on here with all this time on their hands, but what is it exactly that you do? Aren't you in your 50's? Arlene you are one of those kiss asses that everyone at every job works with. I have seen posts where you are stroking Scott Mercury's cock, now, since all the Paul Rodgers loving idiot teenagers are pissed at Scott Mercury for telling them to their face that they don't know shit from applebutter, they are mad, and you are trying to be the cool grandma that bakes all the kids cookies. |
| Lester Burnham 14.06.2005 12:11 |
Lookie there! Sharon thinks she's people! Teehee. Isn't it cute when she's trying to be serious? |
| doremi 14.06.2005 12:23 |
Sharron .G wrote: Arlene, I can see all these dumb kids on here with all this time on their hands, but what is it exactly that you do? Aren't you in your 50's? Arlene you are one of those kiss asses that everyone at every job works with. I have seen posts where you are stroking Scott Mercury's cock, now, since all the Paul Rodgers loving idiot teenagers are pissed at Scott Mercury for telling them to their face that they don't know shit from applebutter, they are mad, and you are trying to be the cool grandma that bakes all the kids cookies.I am 44 thank you and stop calling me Grandma. And I have always taken issue with all gay bashing posters, such as vivival, not just Scott. What's up with you? I have never said anything nasty to you. I must admit, though that you don't help this cause here any, and you give Scott fuel for fire with unsubstantiated rants like this and the absurd repetitive same exact posts you say about Freddie. If you like Freddie so much, say something ELSE and NEW and FRESH and insightful. Also do your homework. I have called Scott a misogynist dinosaur way back and on other Topics, once I was on this board for awhile and I saw his true side. I also am not trying to be "cool" to the younger fans. I am MAKING a POINT that there should be NO DISCRIMINATION or BIAS on QZ to fans based on their age, religion, race, sexual orientation, creed, nationality, gender, etc. Scott is being BIASED and discriminatory stating that the younger fans have no right to be here and discuss anything on QZ. Sharon read page 2 Of My Topic here..and you will see what I really think of Scott. Again, try using the search button and doing your homework before you write something you know nothing about! link |
| rc 14.06.2005 14:52 |
Scott doesn't own or run Queenzone. Therefore, he has absolutely no jurisdiction over other posters. So basically, he can't tell anybody what to do. Am I not right? |