| deleted user 28.09.2004 16:47 |
I just found an mp3 of Robert Plant's Innuendo performance at the Tribute concert. Forgive me if I have sinned, but I think it is quite horrendous, even shameful. Now I know for a fact that Plant refused to release this as part of the album/dvd because of the reason stated above. I also noticed that it was ditto for Live Aid. Page and Plant refused to release their performance also. What is going on? |
| Lester Burnham 28.09.2004 17:57 |
Led Zeppelin and Robert Plant just aren't very good at one-offs, I suppose. |
| MayFan 28.09.2004 18:18 |
Don...I saw Led Zep's performance on tv at Live Aid when it happened and let me tell you it SUCKED! LZ is my favorite band without a doubt. I love everything they even committed to vinyl. But, they were horrific, and that's being kind. Phil Collins missed most of his cues, Plant's vocals were sub-par, and Page's guitars were out of tune. Yes, guitars as in all of them. I was soooo disappointed. They also were horrible at the Atlantic 35th Anniversary concert. Same shit, different night. I just think Bonham's death solidified the curse the band has for bad luck. They were never even close to being the same after it. |
| LiveAidQueen 28.09.2004 18:49 |
It sucks. |
| agneepath! 11994 28.09.2004 18:55 |
Visit Rien's site: link and you can download a video of plant's version of Innuendo. vocals aside - its still great to listen to a live version of Innuendo though. |
| LiveAidQueen 28.09.2004 19:15 |
That's true, it's one of a kind...sort of. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 28.09.2004 19:19 |
I was at the tribute, the sound at the beginning was very poor, I think Rien will back me up on that!! But as a performance, it wasnt bad, Its just Bob Plants style. I didnt think it was a disgrace, and besides, the crowd quite liked it from what I remember! |
| MayFan 28.09.2004 20:24 |
I just realized I never commented on Plant at the tribute concert..... To clarify my point of view, I did find Plant's performance at the tribute concert quite enjoyable. I thought Innuendo was a great choice for him because it sounds very zeppelin-esque. I also liked the way they started CLTCL with Thank You. I think that material would be worth having. But the Live Aid show......BLAH! =P |
| deleted user 28.09.2004 21:25 |
But the pattern is quite disturbing. For us Queen fans, these events (Live Aid and FM Tribute) were milestones and the fact that the two of the biggest names of rock and roll to falter like that, unthinkable. But, after all, they are only human. |
| BackToHuman 28.09.2004 23:03 |
i think "they were never very good at one-offs" is a fairer assessment than "they were never the same after Bonham" -- i just watched the video of the Unledded version of 'Kashmir' on tv yesterday, and had forgotten how great that version of the song is. |
| jericho05 29.09.2004 00:16 |
I actually liked Plant's take on the tune. Innuendo seemed the most Zeppelin-esque especially with the bit of Kashmir in there. I thought it was one of the highlights of the night and was disappointed it was not on the DVD. |
| The Real Wizard 29.09.2004 01:19 |
MayFan wrote: I just think Bonham's death solidified the curse the band has for bad luck. They were never even close to being the same after it.You're right, but only to an extent. One of the greatest concerts of my life was seeing Page/Plant in 98. It wasn't Zeppelin, but it was damn close. |
| Maz 29.09.2004 01:22 |
Sir GH<br><font size=1>ah yeah</font> wrote: You're right, but only to an extent. One of the greatest concerts of my life was seeing Page/Plant in 98. It wasn't Zeppelin, but it was damn close.Actually, I'd say it was only about half-way there :) |
| Zizzu 29.09.2004 04:42 |
Plant performance at FMT was pathetic! I've no comment. Unfortunatly this is the only one live version of Innuendo...great Roger, John & Brian!! |
| Sebastian 29.09.2004 05:56 |
I liked Innuendo a lot, even though Robert had some out of pitch notes during "forever we'll be", Roger missed the beat in the flamenco section, and Brian started it wrong too :), but any song has mistakes, especially live. And those ones were pretty funny (except for the vocal thing, which is a little disturbing indeed), but imo the remaining 99% of their performances (including Robert's) were great |
| Roger_in_Tigerskin_Trousers 29.09.2004 09:22 |
I love Led Zep but those performances are diabolical. I mean Stairway should have been one of two highpoints in the show (the other one being Bo Rhap). they really had fallen far from their earlier glory. |
| PrincesofTheUniverse 29.09.2004 10:41 |
Horrible version, didn't like it at the time & don't like it now. This is 1 of only 2 live versions of Innuendo I've ever heard, & they were both terrible. The other was by Queen tribute act "Magic-A Kind of Queen" or should that be "Awful-A Kind of Butlins" ? They totally put me off ever seeing any "tribute" bands again. |
| BrianRules 29.09.2004 13:02 |
The music is superb! Robert is definitely struggling through it, but I guess I've heard worse. Like someone had said, vocals aside, it's a great live version of the song, that's for sure. |
| deleted user 29.09.2004 13:40 |
It wasn't Bonzo's curse. It was just not their day, I guess. Innuendo is quite complex, and it has never been played live before the Tribute, so for that, I am going to be relenting. |
| MayFan 29.09.2004 17:39 |
BackToHuman wrote: i think "they were never very good at one-offs" is a fairer assessment than "they were never the same after Bonham" -- i just watched the video of the Unledded version of 'Kashmir' on tv yesterday, and had forgotten how great that version of the song is.Sure Un-Led-ed was good. They had 102 piece orchestra and an Indian band plus thier own band to back them up. I'd sound good in that situation! I'm talking about Led Zeppelin as a four piece band. Not Plant at the FMT or Page/Plant. The Live Aid performance was ghastly!! |
| Óli Gneisti Sóleyjarson 29.09.2004 21:33 |
I've heard that LZ Live Aid performance was bad because Collins was jetlagged (he took the Concorde to get from London to Philly). I myself haven't seen it so I don't know if this makes sense. |
| deleted user 30.09.2004 00:34 |
Óli Gneisti Sóleyjarson wrote: Collins was jetlagged (he took the Concorde to get from London to Philly).FM even said something like "does that man ever stop?" |
| The Real Wizard 30.09.2004 01:21 |
MayFan wrote: Sure Un-Led-ed was good. They had 102 piece orchestra and an Indian band plus thier own band to back them up.Can't wait for the DVD release of this. October 26th!!! |
| Libor2 30.09.2004 06:56 |
I listened it yesterday to fresh my memories. When I had seen it on FM tribute, I was shocked then, how bad it’ve been. After those years I think Robert performance of Innuendo was rather bad, but it wasn’t so horrible I had thought. After all, it was live gig and it’s always harder than to sing in studio. |
| willem-jan 8923 30.09.2004 10:40 |
I prefer the one we've allready had in '92 actually..... |
| deleted user 30.09.2004 13:33 |
If it hald the 15th, we/they would be forced to have a 30th, a 50th, a 75th, and a 100th. Who wants that? |
| AlexRocks 30.09.2004 15:27 |
As a matter of fact they are going to re-release the "A Concert For Life" with EVERYTHING on it! Including Plan'ts "Innuendo" and as far as I am concerned I can't wait! |
| Roger_in_Tigerskin_Trousers 01.10.2004 11:21 |
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I think he made a fool of himself with Crazy little Thing Called Love. I agree. Innuendos BAD but its a hell of a lot better than CLTCL. |
| LiveAidQueen 01.10.2004 18:55 |
I thought he did great with CLTCL...Better than Innuendo... |
| Pluto 01.10.2004 21:12 |
i liked cltcl but thats just me |
| deleted user 02.10.2004 02:33 |
Plant's rendition of CLTCL was comparable to an epileptic having a fit. |
| The Real Wizard 09.10.2004 14:50 |
I thought Plant did a superb job on CLTCL, and as best a job as possible on Innuendo. Plant's range wasn't totally there, but he put as much emotion into the song as he possibly could have. This just goes to show how great our Freddie was. |
| deleted user 09.10.2004 17:37 |
CLTCL wasn't him. Innuendo was bit for him, like Kashmir. |
| Wouter 26.10.2004 03:03 |
Today, I listened to it for the first time (because, thank God, it was excluded from the official release), and I was wondering what the lyrics from the Plant version were. Did he even sing the words from the song that Queen wrote, or was he just murmuring some unhearable words that he just made up? |
| Regor 26.10.2004 04:06 |
Plant had to be there - he was one of Freddies idols and Fred adopted quite some of his stage mannerisms from Plant - of course he found his own style by adding some macho and campness (Plant was more of a dandy-storyteller) but Bob was a rolemodel. Watch "The song remains the same" or "DVD" - awesome stuff, they were a fantastic live-band !!! That doesnt better his performance at the Tribute, though. It certainly wasn't a highlight in terms of quality, but Freddie would have been very proud to see his idol performing a Queen song - and of course he would've grinned like a Cheshire cat that his idol could not match his range ! |
| djaef 26.10.2004 06:23 |
Regor wrote: Plant had to be there - he was one of Freddies idols and Fred adopted quite some of his stage mannerisms from Plant - of course he found his own style by adding some macho and campness (Plant was more of a dandy-storyteller) but Bob was a rolemodel. Watch "The song remains the same" or "DVD" - awesome stuff, they were a fantastic live-band !!! That doesnt better his performance at the Tribute, though. It certainly wasn't a highlight in terms of quality, but Freddie would have been very proud to see his idol performing a Queen song - and of course he would've grinned like a Cheshire cat that his idol could not match his range !Freddie macho and Robert a dandy? Now I've heard everything :) Robert might have styled himself on 60s icons, but my God the ladies liked him. "Cock-rock" they called it remember... I have heard both Innuendo and CLTCL, and I must say that as a die hard long time Led Zep & Queen freak, this was the ONLY Zep/Queen related download that I havce ever deleted (although some of you have got me interested in hearing it again, just to be sure...) I really thought it was appalling. Utterly tragic. Some things are better left alone once they are over, and Rock God careers are one of them. That said, I saw Robert in 2002, and he was very good live. So maybe it was ajust a bad night huh... I never saw Zep - the biggest tragedy in my life. But I did see Queen 3 times, and that was a friggin' triumph if ever I had one. |
| Martin Packer 26.10.2004 08:08 |
Actually I did see The Song Remains The Same recently and my comment would be that Queen live were far better than them. (Subjectively, of course.) |
| Regor 26.10.2004 08:29 |
I think I used the wrong vocabulary... gosh, I have to use my dictionary more frequently... ;-) What I meant was that Fred, despite apparantly being influenced performance-wise by Robert, had his own style. He added the camp first and in the late 70's (and of course later with the "clone-moustache") that Gay macho-attitude. Whilst Robert to me always had this very self-conscious Pretty Boy-Ladykiller together with fairytale-fantasy-storyteller mixture. But great Frontmen they both are/were. |
| Brian_Mays_Wig 26.10.2004 13:34 |
Sir GH<br><font size=1>ah yeah</font> wrote: I thought Plant did a superb job on CLTCL, and as best a job as possible on Innuendo. Plant's range wasn't totally there, but he put as much emotion into the song as he possibly could have. This just goes to show how great our Freddie was.I totally agree, CLTCL absolutely rocked. It was a superb performance by our boys and Bob Plant, and it felt rockier because Brian used the RS for the fill ins as opposed to the Telecaster that he would have normally used. HeM, you dont know what you are on about. Robert Plant, in my opinion did a fine job. Not to everybody's taste, but he put his heart into it. Well done RP! |
| Serry... 26.10.2004 16:07 |
He sung it with his own unique style and that's great. And Liza did it in the same way. Or someone supposed that they could sing it with Freddie's voice?! |
| Wouter 26.10.2004 19:26 |
it doesn't have to sound like Freddie to be good. But it doesn't mean that everything different and unique is good. As I was saying before, there were a lot of moments where I didn't even recognize the song, and was just asking myself what the **** Robert Plant was singing. I'm not certain whether this is called emotion or a failure (side note: I like Led Zeppelin). |