| brENsKi 05.03.2020 15:36 |
So we all know of Freddie's love of old black n white movies. I'm wondering if some of the music used for those old-time movies inspired his own song-writing. The 1910 Wizard of Oz movie has a section of "added incidental piano music" adapted from Paul Tietjens's music of the 1902 stage play. There's one 30-second part (below) that has some similarities to Freddie's Millionaire Waltz. As this music has only recently been adapted to the 3-disc DVD boxset, I'm wondering if it's possible that: a] Freddie ever heard this piece of music, or b] Freddie ever saw a later production of the stage play (with this musical arrangement)? relevant part: 11:20 - 11:50 |
| Star* 07.03.2020 14:50 |
Brenski For someone who is homophobic towards Freddie you are a laugh on this thread and this thread is doomed from the start. The things people on here will do to get popular tut tut. |
| brENsKi 07.03.2020 15:58 |
QE2. wrote:Brenski For someone who is homophobic towards Freddie you are a laugh on this thread and this thread is doomed from the start. The things people on here will do to get popular tut tut.WTF? on every count. |
| miraclesteinway 07.03.2020 22:59 |
I'll answer the question: No it's probably not the inspiration. Freddie was a great lover of Chopin, who was the most famous composer of Waltzes for the piano. True, he wasn't the most famous composer of Waltzes period, that was Johannes Strauss. Freddie was aware of all that music, and he was aware of all sorts of cabaret and theatrical styles, and so to him it was probably very natural to compose a waltz. By the way, you gotta love that bass line on Millionaire Waltz. |
| mooghead 07.03.2020 23:23 |
Pretty much all silent movies had a piano soundtrack to which this sounds very typical. If you close your eyes and concentrate hard enough you can hear millionaire waltz in most of it. |
| brENsKi 08.03.2020 07:39 |
mooghead wrote: Pretty much all silent movies had a piano soundtrack to which this sounds very typical. If you close your eyes and concentrate hard enough you can hear millionaire waltz in most of it.thank you |
| emrabt 08.03.2020 08:30 |
Every release of this would have had different music, it's unlikely Freddie would have heard this particular print of the movie. Edit: Rereading the op I realise that this isn't actually what you asked. |
| brENsKi 10.03.2020 13:07 |
emrabt wrote: Every release of this would have had different music, it's unlikely Freddie would have heard this particular print of the movie. Edit: Rereading the op I realise that this isn't actually what you asked.no, of course. but it is likely he could've been aware of the music or a later "WoO" theatre production using that pice of music music? |
| Star* 10.03.2020 15:23 |
Of course Brenski would know cos his always right - amen. |
| brENsKi 10.03.2020 15:52 |
QE2. wrote: Of course Brenski would know cos his always right - amen.firstly, the thread is a question. so there is no "knowing" anything - and i've never implied as much. even a numbskull should understand what "likely" means. my "likely" was based on Freddie's love of old black and white movies and old-time theatre/music. - ie there maybe a chance he heard this tune. if you even knew a scrap of info about your idol you'd understand that much. where do you think songs like: Seaside Rendezvous Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy Bring Back That Leroy Brown Millionaire Waltz came from? your first response to this thread was to to pronounce it "doomed". now a couple of people have actually agreed with me, you ramp it up. you're just determined to destroy any thread you don't like. why can't you just contribute, instead of doing this? |
| aristide1 10.03.2020 17:17 |
These bold songs, reminiscent more of psychedelia than of old days, are some of the most progressive moments in Queen music. Frederick wasn't a gay phantom of the opera recycling "old black and white movies and old-time theatre/music" themes, he was a genius ahead of his time. That's why mentioning an obscure (and highly generic) film score from 1910 as the possible source of inspiration is particular dumb and diminishing. |
| Holly2003 10.03.2020 17:32 |
aristide1 wrote: These bold songs, reminiscent more of psychedelia than of old days, are some of the most progressive moments in Queen music. Frederick wasn't a gay phantom of the opera recycling "old black and white movies and old-time theatre/music" themes, he was a genius ahead of his time. That's why mentioning an obscure (and highly generic) film score from 1910 as the possible source of inspiration is particular dumb and diminishing.If you're going to be a smartarse it helps to be more smart than arse. There's very little one might call psychedelic in any of those songs. They're based more firmly in nostalgia for music hall and Noel Coward, filtered no doubt through Fred's public school experiences (and to a lesser extent through Brian's love for jazz and skiffle). |
| aristide1 10.03.2020 17:39 |
link |
| Holly2003 10.03.2020 17:52 |
Try harder. |
| Star* 11.03.2020 08:31 |
Brenski I do contribute to all the threads on here until you in all your glory disapprove of my opinions. You do like to challenge everyone on here and that is so unfair as no one hardly challenges you on your comments, so just let it be and let us all have our say and be a good boy, thank you. |
| brENsKi 11.03.2020 16:42 |
QE2. wrote:Brenski I do contribute to all the threads on here until you in all your glory disapprove of my opinions..no. your first reply in this thread was to declare it doomed. that's not contributing. prove you contribute. listing to the piano track in the top post - it's nicely cued up at the relevant part. tell me whether you can hear similarities (not identical) just similarities in Millionaire Waltz |
| AlbaNo1 11.03.2020 23:36 |
Definitely strong similarities and movement around 11.30. I could see it as plausible Freddie picking up ideas from something like this more than from sitting through an entire classical concert or opera. |
| Star* 12.03.2020 08:07 |
Yes i can hear hints of Freddie in that clip, and he was the only one in Queen who would have thought of something like that in the band. Freddie always brought a lovely piano piece to many Queen albums but sadly this stopped after Jazz on the track "In Only Seven Days" which yes was written by John Deacon but Freddie's piano contribution was delightful. |
| brENsKi 12.03.2020 09:10 |
red** wrote:Yes i can hear hints of Freddie in that clip, and he was the only one in Queen who would have thought of something like that in the band.not really. you're discounting Brian's "Good Company" and "See What A Fool I've Been", Roger's punk influenced "Sheer Heart Attack" and Deacy's Nile Rogers "AOBTD". Everyone is influenced by something else, everything comes from somewhere else. Go dig out those McCartney quotes about how the Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" influenced the Beatles. while we're on it, Freddie wasn't the first to go all vaudeville/music hall, Brian wasn't the first to go country, and Queen weren't the first heavy rock band to do dance/funk/soul. listening to Sgt Pepper and The White Album and the Freddie/Brian "musical divergences" boxes are ticked already. The dance/funk/soul thing, well, you'll be surprised who beat Queen to it: Zep, Beatles, Purple, Eagles, Doobie Bros, ELO, 10cc - even f**king Kiss! I suppose the point i'm making is that almost nothing is pioneering or original, it's just "more of the same" and the key is how you make your "more of the same" stand out from the others. Diverting a little - been having a discussion about the Killers the other day, and a friend said "yeah, their influences are 80s electronica and new wave", but i countered that i'm sure i'd heard a song from the 70s that was very Killers. going to try dig it out. back on topic: thank you for joining in the discussion properly. it's a shame you didn't just listen to it from the off - instead of the negatives. you'd have maybe gained more from including yourself in something positive. personally, i discovered that arrangement by accident. it was nothing to do with Queen, just someone talking about old movies etc. - and wasn't remotely interested in playing it, and after hearing 3 or 4 minutes i was feeling a bit "huh, so what?" and started fast-forwarding, a few clicks later and the player stopped on 11 mins...then i heard that part and couldn't believe what i was hearing. it's nice after all these years to "discover" something "new" with even the remotest of Queen "links". i then shared it for those who'd never heard it before...seems like most! |
| Star* 13.03.2020 07:41 |
Brenski Firstly i have never come on this site to be nasty, when others like yourself decide to leave the odd sarcastic comment that is the start of the touch paper getting lit for me and i dislike people deciding that only there opinions are valid and mine are torn to shreds and been told my opinions are stupid or wrong, we all have opinions and this is not a court round up so people should just chill out on here. I have trudged through some nasty times on here because of the people who decide to an interesting subject, in fact some of my threads have only had one page on discussing a topic and the other 24 pages have been fighting because someone wants to be petty by dismantling the whole topic, sad times indeed and there are some big headed characters on here who think this site belongs to them so they decide to play moderator, Lets just say no one on here should be bigger than anyone else and we are here because we love Queen what ever shape or form of the band that you prefer but that is still personal to you. People still have a right to moan about the current line up and why not they have spent lots of money on Queen over the years so are entitled to express how good or bad they are now and i for one are one of those people. Now getting back on track for this thread, i cannot see how Sheer Heart Attack has anything to do with the B&W film music but i can see it somewhere in The Millionaire Waltz and yes Freddie loved all that stuff I am not bothered if other artists got there before Queen because Queen are different to other bands they are so much more polished and glossy and as far as i am concerned they did it better than most bands. |
| brENsKi 13.03.2020 08:14 |
red** wrote:Brenski Firstly i have never come on this site to be nasty, when others like yourself decide to leave the odd sarcastic comment that is the start of the touch paper getting lit for me and i dislike people deciding that only there opinions are valid and mine are torn to shreds and been told my opinions are stupid or wrongso you keep saying. have you ever thought about not attacking people who disagree with you? you talk about "sarcastic" replies - but almost every reply that you make aimed at any current Queen project, ends with you saying something really derogatory about AL. many of us don't like the current Queen arrangement, but we either don't get involved in it, or we make constructive comments. Every single comment you have made will criticise AL by use of words like "c*nt", "tw*t", "fat" and other similar insults. you claim your opinions are valid - but they never can be while you use your own vernacular. nobody will take anything you say seriously, if your first approach is to disabuse others with those methods. red** wrote:Now getting back on track for this thread, i cannot see how Sheer Heart Attack has anything to do with the B&W film music but i can see it somewhere in The Millionaire Waltz and yes Freddie loved all that stuff.i think you've missed the point a little. i was replying to your comment: blue and my reply was that all of the band members (not just Freddie) came up with ideas in different musical genres or taking different musical directions - including Roger's "Sheer Heart Attack". and, fwiw - some of Queen's biggest hits; Radio Ga Ga, AKOM, Innuendo, These Are The Days of Our Lives, One Vision - sounded like nothing else Queen had done before - and were ALL Roger's ideas. |
| Vocal harmony 13.03.2020 13:40 |
red** wrote: Yes i can hear hints of Freddie in that clip, and he was the only one in Queen who would have thought of something like that in the band. Freddie always brought a lovely piano piece to many Queen albums but sadly this stopped after Jazz on the track "In Only Seven Days" which yes was written by John Deacon but Freddie's piano contribution was delightful.Freddie was not the only one in the band to bring something new/inventive to the band. If your talking waltz time signature Roger Taylor did it before Freddie. If your looking at Freddie's songs like Millionaire Waltz. Brian's guitar work bring almost as much to the song as Freddie's writing I agree with you about Freddie's piano work, a lot of that and Queens uniqueness was lost when they started recording stock musical styles like Another One Bites The Dust, although neither disappeared completely. As to the original subject of the thread. I think Freddie's colonial background probably led him to hearing a lot of this style of music when he was growing up together with those old films. And that particular clip does sound very close. |
| Star* 13.03.2020 17:22 |
Freddie brings flamboyance and camp to Queen music and that was the huge appeal to many of his massive hits. Yes Brian's guitar work on Millionaire Waltz is fantastic and styled the band together with the big production and overblown harmonies, others may have done it first but it was Queen that made it there own! |
| brENsKi 13.03.2020 18:46 |
red** wrote:Freddie brings flamboyance and camp to Queen music and that was the huge appeal to many of his massive hits.i don't think that "flamoyance" and "camp" are the huge appeal of hit records. Neither element attracted me to his songs. Personally, it was melody, lyrics, and a good tune. |
| Star* 13.03.2020 21:23 |
You would not get the good tunes if Freddie was not Freddie meaning he was a gay flamboyant man and that was embedded in his core as a human being. A straight man could never have been as creative as Freddie was. |
| brENsKi 13.03.2020 21:58 |
red** wrote:You would not get the good tunes if Freddie was not Freddie meaning he was a gay flamboyant man and that was embedded in his core as a human being. A straight man could never have been as creative as Freddie was.sorry, but i disagree. you are defining "as creative" as an innate characteristic only found in gay artists - more precisely; one gay artist. that's an utterly closed mind you have there. firstly, creativity is the imaginative ability to have original ideas or make things. being gay and flamboyant is not a prerequisite. secondly, lots of straight musicians are as creative as Freddie was. there's so many ways to be creative - and they ALL count equally, (maybe not to you - but to the world at large, definitely). 3½ Beatles were straight (there was a rumour about John), Zeppelin, Purple, Jeff Lynne, Rush, Kate Bush, Floyd and many others - all straight, and all as creative as Freddie. Maybe not in a way that even registers on your chart, but in the real world of creativity - definitely. thirdly, and more importantly - some of (IMO) Freddie's best tunes had nothing flamboyant or gay about them. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Somebody To Love, Love of My Life, Liar, Seven Seas of Rhye and many more, were - if anything - androgynous, in that they could be written by either gender about either gender. Need further proof? Take Freddie's supposedly "campest, most flamboyant" song - Don't Stop Me Now. Freddie knew the importance of being ambiguous, keeping it androgynous - hence one verse ending "I wanna make a supersonic man out of you" and another ending: "I wanna make a supersonic woman of you" point being; DSMN - despite most people's differing interpretations, was not "gay" "bi" or "straight" - it was a huge, vague, grey, question-mark. and deliberately so. |
| AlbaNo1 14.03.2020 00:48 |
You protest too much . But you have already accident agreed with Red. Deliberately vague, Freddie knew the importance so as not to alienate the commercial market of listeners , but without doubt a lot of these came from Freddie’s core. He did not care about making a supersonic woman. |
| brENsKi 14.03.2020 09:02 |
AlbaNo1 wrote:You protest too much . But you have already accident agreed with Red. blue , but without doubt a lot of these came from Freddie’s core. He did not care about making a supersonic woman.re: the highlighted section ^: maybe initially, but later on i don't think he cared who knew what about him. someone who wishes to maintain the ambiguity does not willingly appear in videos like IWTBF and IAHL, and then there's the Body Language vid - it may feature lots of females, but it's set in a bathhouse "mockup" and much of the imagery is anything but vague. i think that part of my point was made a little clumsily. i was trying to say that sexual orientation doesn't make for creativity, and lyrical androgyny is more creative. it's easy to write: "my girl's mad at me" and similar - because the only perspective being used is that of the writer. but being gay/bi/lesbian doesn't necessarily give a song-writer an advantage or more innate creativity. it's something a song-writer either has/doesn't have - regardless of sexual orientation. |
| Martin Packer 14.03.2020 10:11 |
BTW "gay" and "flamboyant" are largely unrelated. |
| Star* 14.03.2020 10:33 |
Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay! Secondly i disagree about other Queen songs Freddie wrote like Somebody To Love, he was desperate for a boyfriend to love but as we know Freddie always said let the listener interpret what they think the song is....... Don't Stop Me Now is indeed about sex so the rumours go but again that is up to the listener to decide. Freddie's sexuality lit up Queen like a floodlight he made the band vibrant and gave them character of been regal and importance. Straight artists are dull in comparison. |
| Star* 14.03.2020 10:33 |
Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay! Secondly i disagree about other Queen songs Freddie wrote like Somebody To Love, he was desperate for a boyfriend to love but as we know Freddie always said let the listener interpret what they think the song is....... Don't Stop Me Now is indeed about sex so the rumours go but again that is up to the listener to decide. Freddie's sexuality lit up Queen like a floodlight he made the band vibrant and gave them character of been regal and importance. Straight artists are dull in comparison. |
| brENsKi 14.03.2020 11:14 |
red** wrote:Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay! Secondly i disagree about other Queen songs Freddie wrote like Somebody To Love, he was desperate for a boyfriend to love but as we know Freddie always said let the listener interpret what they think the song is....... Don't Stop Me Now is indeed about sex so the rumours go but again that is up to the listener to decide. Freddie's sexuality lit up Queen like a floodlight he made the band vibrant and gave them character of been regal and importance. Straight artists are dull in comparison.that's your opinion, but it isn't fact. you can't say something would not exist if he hadn't been gay. you can never know this - ever. and your interpretation of STL differs from mine - and many others. why should it be about "searching for a boyfriend"? it was Freddie's attempt at a rock-gospel love song. my original point was that there was nothing "flamboyant" or "gay" about STL. you're disagreeing with me, so show me the actual "gay" or "flamboyant" lyrics...or even a part that YOU can definitely interpret as "flamboyant" or "gay". your last sentence is incredible. and discredits almost everything else you've said. sweeping statements do not become fact just because you make them. you'd be better off starting your statements with "i think" or "i feel". while opinions vary, the only real fact is that there are no openly "gay" Freddie compositions, and - "flamboyance" and "gay" often exist exclusively of each other. therefore, the only absolute fact is that of my original point: most of Freddie's songs were not "flamboyant", none at all were "gay", but many were androgynous. why would he deploy androgyny? we can only assume his motives - but our assumptions wouldn't be fact either, would they? |
| Star* 14.03.2020 14:23 |
1975 Freddie admitted to Mary he was gay which was a relief for him to be honest and open, then in 1976 Freddie composes a song about wanting love but this time he can be open with himself about who he wants love with hence "Somebody To Love" and even Freddie admitted his songs come from personal experience and you always get the best songs written through personal experience and i think "Somebody To Love" was about wanting a boyfriend. You have your opinions but sometimes they are not fact either. |
| brENsKi 14.03.2020 15:15 |
red** wrote: 1975 Freddie admitted to Mary he was gay which was a relief for him to be honest and open, then in 1976 Freddie composes a song about wanting love but this time he can be open with himself about who he wants love with hence "Somebody To Love" and even Freddie admitted his songs come from personal experience and you always get the best songs written through personal experience and i think "Somebody To Love" was about wanting a boyfriend. You have your opinions but sometimes they are not fact either.please read what i said, not what you think i said. your last sentence is incorrect - i haven't uttered an opinion on this. to clarify: what i was stated is fact: >> there are no actual "gay" or "flamboyant" lyrics in STL or LOML or Liar . >> we can only assume his motives >> there is nothing that clarifies he is "searching for a boyfriend" in any of his songs >> you can never know this - ever - whether he would have written these songs, had he not been gay. there are thousands of brilliant "broken-heart" love songs written by straight people, you know. using the word "think" as per your last post is better, because then individuals (like myself) can say, "well, i think i disagree because..." however, as my posts were not opinion pieces, you have (accidentally) sidetracked my point. |
| Star* 14.03.2020 15:47 |
Well fact "Its A Hard Life" is about Freddie's gay relationships breaking up because he spoke about that song in a interview and said all his best love songs are about his experiences and down falls and because Freddie is a gay man the lyrics reflect his heart break i.e "Its a hard life To be true lovers together To love and live forever in each others hearts - Its a long hard fight To learn to care for each other To trust in one another right from the start When your in love. Freddie's relationships always turned bad and he ended up getting hurt all the time and these sort of songs reflected that. |
| brENsKi 14.03.2020 18:39 |
Gerry, you keep moving the argument goalposts. the discussion was about "flamboyant" and "gay" songs.
there is nothing in any of the songs quoted that could be considered either.
you started by saying:
red** wrote:redmy reply: brENsKi wrote:greenyour reply claimed STL was about Freddie finding a gay lover: red** wrote:redto which, i responded: brENsKi wrote:greenthen this from you: red** wrote:redso I asked you about STL (again): brENsKi wrote:[color=green]>> there are no actual "gay" or "flamboyant" lyrics in STL or LOML or Liar . >> we can only assume his motives >> there is nothing that clarifies he is "searching for a boyfriend" in any of his songs >> you can never know this - ever - whether he would have written these songs, had he not been gay. there are thousands of brilliant "broken-heart" love songs written by straight people, you know.[/color]your next reply is a complete sidetrack/diversion: red** wrote:redso, over the course of this discussion you've avoided answering two questions: >> what proof do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML if was straight? >> where is the "gay" or "flamboyant" content in the lyrics to STL or LoML or Liar? you still haven't answered this - please try to address the actual questions. |
| Star* 14.03.2020 20:28 |
Firstly i never mentioned LOML OR Liar, so do not know why you quoted that because i never mentioned that and if you read my previous posts i have already explained about STL. Think what Freddie wanted in the song Somebody To Love, he is asking for a man he is a gay man, penny dropped? |
| brENsKi 14.03.2020 21:48 |
red** wrote:Think what Freddie wanted in the song Somebody To Love, he is asking for a man he is a gay man, penny dropped?not at all. that's just your interpretation. it doesn't make it the right one. Freddie loved Aretha Franklin and i think STL was his rock/gospel moment. Next you'll be telling us that his vaudeville/music hall moments were also odes to finding a gay partner. regardless of your need to give all of Freddie's love songs a gay address/request of some form, this simply isn't the case. you can guess/assume what you want - but it doesn't make you right. unless a song clearly states he's "looking for a man" - then he isn't. he's writing love/romance songs that will have universal appeal. this is something writers do. - why halve your potential sales market? you keep claiming that only a gay Freddie could write these songs: red** wrote:Brenski Look at Bohemian Rhapsody rumoured to be about his sexuality, that song would not exist if Freddie had not been gay!so, i'll ask you once more: what proof do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap if was straight? |
| Star* 14.03.2020 22:13 |
Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner but he always said its up to the listener to decide what they want the song to be. I never said all of Freddie's songs were about him but a few were. Around 1983/1984 Freddie's love life was very wild and the amount of men that he dated was off the scale and "Its A Hard Life " tied in nicely with that era. |
| brENsKi 14.03.2020 22:19 |
red** wrote:Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partnerif they were secretly in his head, then you could never know this. that's what secretly and in Freddie's head means. therefore, stop saying things you have no proof of red** wrote:Around 1983/1984 Freddie's love life was very wild and the amount of men that he dated was off the scale and "Its A Hard Life " tied in nicely with that era."tied in nicely"??? - for your imagination maybe. but unless Freddie actually said a specific song was about relationships with gay men, then you have NO PROOF. Please stop tying everything to some "agenda" you appear to be developing. anyhow, as you've completely ignored my main point (again)...i'll ask you one last time. unless you finally answer this honestly, you can consider this exchange dead. so here goes: what proof do you have that Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap if was straight? |
| The Real Wizard 14.03.2020 22:41 |
red** (aka Freddie's psychotherapist) wrote: Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partnerFTFY. What else was secretly going on in his head? Inquiring minds want to know. |
| LilMal 14.03.2020 23:26 |
red** Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partner You sound terribly desperate . What proof do you have any other than your imagination or possibly " secret" talks with a few weirdos ? |
| Star* 15.03.2020 09:24 |
Listen if you had listened to many interviews with Freddie like i have you would educate yourself to see what Freddie was really saying in his songs. I am not desperate because i dont give two shits what anyone on here thinks i know what Fred was saying. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 09:25 |
@ Real Wizard Please dont mock just because your a homophobic berk. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 09:55 |
The Real Wizard wrote:exactly what I've been trying saying. Gerry, refuses to answer:red** (aka Freddie's psychotherapist) wrote: Secretly in Freddie's head a few songs were about finding a male partnerFTFY. What else was secretly going on in his head? Inquiring minds want to know. purple purple he can't answer...because he HAS no actual proof. this is exactly how Gerry wins arguments: hopping from one bizarre theory to another - thereby avoiding any previous questions. so, for one FINAL TIME Gerry, answer these TWO questions with actual proof, or reply "i don't have any proof" please prove (and not via your own anecdotal views) - by either posting a direct link or a written quote from Freddie - that It's A Hard Life is about relationships with gay men. what irrefutable proof (scientific, academic or otherwise) that a straight Freddie could not have written STL or LOML or DSMN or Bo Rhap if you can't do this, just say so - and we'll move on. but either way, stop trying to pass stuff off as fact - of which you have no proof at all. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 11:11 |
You do talk ridiculous Brenski and no Queen fan. Every decent Queen fan knows there has always been speculation around Bohemian Rhapsody and Freddie's sexuality, the lyrics are obvious if you cared to listen to them. Yet again this site fails to serve Queen fans because two arrogant bullies think other wise of my posts, well fuck you because Queenzone has more members than you two idiots Mr Wizard & Brenski. |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 11:19 |
red** wrote: @ Real Wizard Please dont mock just because your a homophobic berk.Says the guy who called Lambert a "bender". |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 12:08 |
red** wrote:redyou talk utter rubbish. fan and stepford are two very different things. you are NOT a fan - you're a Freddie Stepford. red** wrote:redspeculation is not proof. i asked you for proof. all you have done is hop form STL to IAHL to Bo Rhap with wild conjecture. red** wrote:[color=red] Yet again this site fails to serve Queen fans because two arrogant bullies think other wise of my posts, well fuck you because Queenzone has more members than you two idiots Mr Wizard & Brenski.[/color]how quickly you turn. all i tried to do was reason with you. all you were asked for was proof of your claims. you ALWAYS resort to aggression when your points are proven to be wrong. you're attacking people who have done nothing more than challenge your wildly-unproven comments. you provided no proof because, well - your wild theories are nothing more than that: wild theories and YOU have no proof - because their isn't any. it's all just stuff you imagined to be the case. you do realise that (after five years here) all you ever do is prove other people's points for them? |
| Vocal harmony 15.03.2020 12:10 |
red** wrote: @ Real Wizard Please dont mock just because your a homophobic berk.If you're going to call someone out on a subject like this you better have a stack of proof. On the other hand we don't have to look far to find your homophobic comments directed at Lambert, as Holly says, or indeed some forum members. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 12:17 |
red** wrote:redhilarious! you actually are that deluded that you consider your insane ramblings to be of some benefit to this community? that Qzone is somehow gaining enlightenment and knowledge from your presence here? what an absolutely moronic neanderthal racist fuckwit you are. talk about Grandeur Complex. red** wrote:redit's not a site, it's a forum. and if you really think it fails you that much, then go, fuck off...go on. let's see if the place returns to a peaceful existence during your absence. fuck off Gerry. you pointless excuse for carbon-based life. Score Update as we go into the last 2 minutes of play. Touchdown!!! - it's been a twenty-touchdown rout. Queenzone - 140 Gerry - 0 so to any Gerry sympathisers before criticising, please read the previous posts in this thread - and check what happens when people try to reason with Gerry. I am done with even attempting to reason with him...as you can see above. apols, but after three pages of reasoning in this thread, game over. Fuck the mindless fuck! |
| Star* 15.03.2020 12:42 |
See that is just what i have been saying about you Brenski you are a oxygen thief who just likes to wind people up cause trouble then blame other people. I have tried to have an adult conversation with you but because you are so heavily opinionated you want to win the argument yet again, well i am not taking this any further so don't waste my time you narrow minded little old nasty man. I am off this thread now so don't run after me elsewhere. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 14:00 |
red** wrote:See that is just what i have been saying about you Brenski you are a oxygen thief who just likes to wind people up cause trouble then blame other people. I have tried to have an adult conversation with you but because you are so heavily opinionated you want to win the argument yet again, well i am not taking this any further so don't waste my time you narrow minded little old nasty man. I am off this thread now so don't run after me elsewhere.complete and utter bullshit as usual. you were asked to prove your "shactoids" - you couldn't. i did not state opinions - i stated actual facts. you can't prove anything you state - if you had proof, you'd have brought it to the discussion a page or two ago. you didn't because there isn't any. every thing you spout are the ramblings of mind-train that long ago left the rails of reasoned discussion. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 14:09 |
redredi'll post wherever i like. iif there's something to comment on - and i wish to, then i will. it's an open forum and that's what forums are for...regardless of who said it. you don't like that? then clear the fuck off. you've already said this place doesn't serve your needs...so why stick around? oh yes, to troll! couldn't give a f**k whether you return to this thread (or anywhere on Qzone) or not...either way your last word bullshit is not being passed off as fact/going unchallenged. for >2 pages, I've calmly tried to reason with you. once your argument is exploded, you accuse people of bullying. it's the last resort of a desperate imbecile. [IMO] for five years on here [sic] - you've been nothing less than an attention-seeking, walter-mitty, lying, abusive, racist, troll...with more names than the Devil himself, (but none-too-many dissimilarities to speak of) go on, count them. as Iron Maiden (or rather, Barry Clayton) put it: Woe to you o earth and sea For the devil sends the beast with wrath Because he knows that time is short Let him who hath understanding recon the number of the beast For it is a human number It's number is blue purple green blue orange purple blue green red orange purple red purple red purple green blue orange purple red orange red orange red purple green blue orange |
| Star* 15.03.2020 14:43 |
Sad IRISH Cunt who is a silly old man and has a twisted view on the world. Go and annoy someone else with your petty posts because you are a parasite on here and i and others are fucking sick of you trolling the boards day in and day out. Look at your post above that is trolling looking for the limelight, i do honestly think you have a mental illness mate, still i pity you it must be so sad being you. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 14:58 |
dbl post |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 15:07 |
red red red redwell there we have it folks: Gerry returns to a thread with a complete lack of style, thereby proving my previous post: [color=green]brENsKi wrote:15 Mar 20, 14:09 [/color] greeni had no idea you'd prove me right that quickly. go on Gezza, why don't you threaten violence too and be done with it? it's par for your course. |
| thomasquinn 32989 15.03.2020 15:13 |
red** wrote (translated from the original by ThomasQuinn): I'm a sad racist cunt who is a silly old man and has twisted views. I go and annoy people with my petty posts because I am a parasite on here and I am fucking sick, trolling the boards day in and day out. Look at my many posts above: that is trolling looking for the limelight. I do honestly think I have a mental illness mate, still I pitifully lash out at you because I'm really so sad.Translation provided for those who are not fluent in psychological projection or raving loon. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 15:16 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:you omitted the "[sic]" after "on here"red** wrote (translated from the original by ThomasQuinn): I'm a sad racist cunt who is a silly old man and has twisted views. I go and annoy people with my petty posts because I am a parasite on here and I am fucking sick, trolling the boards day in and day out. Look at my many posts above: that is trolling looking for the limelight. I do honestly think I have a mental illness mate, still I pitifully lash out at you because I'm really so sad.Translation provided for those who are not fluent in psychological projection or raving loon. |
| thomasquinn 32989 15.03.2020 15:25 |
Well, yes, but in my defense - this version is meant for the general public, and if I were to start placing sicuts wherever incongruous statements were made, the result would be even more of an illegible mess than it already is. That might scare away much of the public from Gerry's oeuvre, and I could never forgive myself for that. Fully annotated interlinear translations of Gerry's complete works are, of course, available by request for the discerning scholar. |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 15:41 |
He said this to me on another part of the site. "Holly2003: Have you seen Queen+ in concert then because as i remembered you dislike Adam as well hypocrite." Maybe you could translate it for me? I believe it's a lower form of English, spoken only by skip rats and other school dodgers. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 15:54 |
@Holly2003 Enough of the sarcasm you stupid shit wipe bitch. |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 16:08 |
Make me. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 16:13 |
red** wrote:I am off this thread now so don't run after me elsewhere. |
| thomasquinn 32989 15.03.2020 16:27 |
You have good taste, Holly! This one has a lot of things going on for it.
First, we need to pay attention to proper scansion. It's written in a peculiar, jarring and somewhat irregular metre usually reserved for the most hardened habitual drunks, tertiary syphilitics and mentally unsound howler monkeys.
/ x x / / x / x x
Have you seen Queen + in concert then
/ x x / / x x
because / as I / remembered
/ x / / x / x
you dislike Adam / as well
/ x x
hypocrite
There is so much to see here, but, I shouldn't allow myself to be sidetracked by matters of form! Just note how it is virtually impossible to declaim this verse properly with a blood alcohol content under 0.25% or an IQ over 40.
The translation is a little bit tricky, because the author's understanding that words are supposed to have at least somewhat fixed meanings is sketchy at best. Although I'll be the first to admit that this is a rather free interpretation, I would propose something like this:
Have you seen [my collection of] Queen+ in concert [recordings]? I wish I could remember why I'm not allowed to go near Adam or flammable substances. Hey look, it's the nurse with my antipsychotic medication!"I'm very glad to see you're taking an interest! |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2020 17:30 |
red** wrote: @ Real Wizard Please dont mockAt least you asked nicely. But alas, no, I won't. Your shoe sized IQ is far too much fun to play with. |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2020 17:33 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:You win the internets for today.red** wrote (translated from the original by ThomasQuinn): I'm a sad racist cunt who is a silly old man and has twisted views. I go and annoy people with my petty posts because I am a parasite on here and I am fucking sick, trolling the boards day in and day out. Look at my many posts above: that is trolling looking for the limelight. I do honestly think I have a mental illness mate, still I pitifully lash out at you because I'm really so sad.Translation provided for those who are not fluent in psychological projection or raving loon. |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2020 17:42 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Just note how it is virtually impossible to declaim this verse properly with a blood alcohol content under 0.25% or an IQ over 40.I take it back. It's yours for the week. Thoroughly entertaining - on par with the Circle of Eidolon and Fatty from times past. Please keep them coming. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 17:53 |
thomasquinn So apart from been rude obnoxious and another bully on here you are also discriminating people with mental health issues your such a prick ! |
| The Circle of Eidolon 15.03.2020 18:23 |
red** wrote: thomasquinn So apart from been rude obnoxious and another bully on here you are also discriminating people with mental health issues your such a prick !The Circle of Eidolon sees all, we are always here. Mr red** it has not been apparent to you, though it has to us, that upon removing the name Thomasquinn from your above post you have accurately managed to describe so much of the person you are. Your attempts to hide behind words like nice fail in ways you have no knowledge of. The lesson in this post is none existent, because we The Circle of Eidolon know that even you know what we say to be true. The Circle of Eidolon has spoken, there can be no argument. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 18:26 |
red** wrote:thomasquinn So apart from been rude obnoxious and another bully on here you are also discriminating people with mental health issues your such a prick !first it was Vocal harmony, then me [brENsKi], then Real Wizard, then ThomasQuinn, then Holly2003. and EVERY single time you claim that you are being picked on, and that these ^ people run and bully this place. tell you what, you stupid vacuous, racist, moron : that's (at least FIVE) who you pick fights with, so if you can find FIVE people who actually like you: name them - here and now. you won't, because no person functioning at anything above cabbage level would admit to liking you. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 18:39 |
Brenski Come and say that to my face you Irish moron and i will personally knock you into the next Irish bank holiday you cunt. You are quite happy to sit on your keypad typing but i bet your a shit wipe in real life. |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 18:57 |
Wow you've changed your name from red to blue. That's real James Bond stuff right there. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 18:58 |
Just to confuse your fluffy little dense head yeah ! |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 19:00 |
Blue. wrote: Just to confuse your fluffy little dense head yeah !Typically you miss the joke, which is at your expense as usual. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:01 |
No joke trying to get through to someone as thick as you love. Even kitchen towel is more intelligent than you.ha haha |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 19:10 |
Blue. wrote: No joke trying to get through to someone as thick as you love. Even kitchen towel is more intelligent than you.ha hahaYou spelt ha ha ha wrong. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:13 |
You are pathetic always said all Holly's are brain dead and your no exception love ! Go watch Love Island or take flowers to Flacks grave you looser. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:13 |
You are pathetic always said all Holly's are brain dead and your no exception love ! Go watch Love Island or take flowers to Flacks grave you looser. |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 19:14 |
You said that twice. Do you have a stutter? |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:15 |
No but youl have a fucking stutter in your head if you dont piss off |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 19:18 |
"youl" ? |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:21 |
Past your bed time bitch after you put your Canesten cream on that thrush infection again! I did warn you not to do trade on the streets at 2.30am ha ha ha |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 19:21 |
Blue. wrote:Brenski Come and say that to my face you Irish moron and i will personally knock you into the next Irish bank holiday you cunt. Holly2003 wrote:Wow you've changed your name from red to blue. That's real James Bond stuff right there.yep. it's apt though. Gerry intends to beat me black and blue hehe he's gone from Sir Percy Blakeney red to the blue in one fell swoop. Gerry really is the brown <<< not a typo! |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:23 |
Only faeces on here is you Brenski one big Irish dump. |
| Holly2003 15.03.2020 19:29 |
Blue. wrote: Past your bed time bitch after you put your Canesten cream on that thrush infection again! I did warn you not to do trade on the streets at 2.30am ha ha haYou posted that at 19:21, which is the 24 hour clock version of 7:21pm, not 2:30am. Did no one ever teach you to tell time? |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 19:32 |
Blue. wrote:Brenski Come and say that to my face you Irish moron and i will personally knock you into the next Irish bank holiday you cunt..April 13th... you could've just said April 13th. idtiot. |
| brENsKi 15.03.2020 19:33 |
Holly2003 wrote:we're talking about a moron who's had previous day/time/date issues aplentyBlue. wrote: Past your bed time bitch after you put your Canesten cream on that thrush infection again! I did warn you not to do trade on the streets at 2.30am ha ha haYou posted that at 19:21, which is the 24 hour clock version of 7:21pm, not 2:30am. Did no one ever teach you to tell time? |
| Star* 15.03.2020 19:39 |
Brenski Biggest moron on here is you stupid old man. |
| Star* 15.03.2020 20:03 |
Caught you in a pub last week Brenski ! HA HA HA |
| Vocal harmony 16.03.2020 11:59 |
Blue. wrote: Caught you in a pub last week Brenski ! HA HA HAI see red faded far quicker then any of us believed it would. So now you're blue. Are you blue as in a low mood, are you blue as in the sky on a sunny day. Are you azure blue, lake placid blue, electric blue, are you the blue lagoon or maybe Bluebird. Are you a pair of blue sued shoes or maybe just one shoe. Are you a Bartok opera? Maybe you are a Deep Purple album or a different Martin Mac viper this time one who's colour scroll list is stuck on blue, but what shade of blue, midnight blue? Haze blue? Egyptian blue is your focus also stuck, are you a colour wash, a sweep band or pin spot. Do you have any focus at all. What ever you do oh blue one, please stick around because when the country goes into lock down because of corona virus you may be one of the few subjects of amusement left. |
| Star* 16.03.2020 12:31 |
Glad yo be of service VH. I could also be blue like a viagra tablet lol |
| Star* 16.03.2020 12:32 |
Glad to be of service VH I could also be blue like a viagra tablet lol |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.03.2020 14:31 |
What would you do with viagra? Not even a blow-up doll would have you. |
| Star* 16.03.2020 14:36 |
Now now Thomas no need to be nasty, we all cannot be closet wankers like you know lol |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.03.2020 15:37 |
I was actually being very nice. I could have "told it like it is", and said that you have no need for viagra, because you are clearly the kind of person that no woman, in fact no female mammal, would tolerate being touched by. Not only would I be saying that you couldn't get any pussy, I would be saying you'd not be allowed to pet pussies at the animal shelter. Now, if I were to be nasty, I might have said something such as how I think that three things are true about you: one, you are clearly not intelligent, to put it kindly. Two: you have a vicious streak of racism, homophobia, misogyny and all kinds of nasty shit that comes to the surface at the least provocation - all those things are part of the real you. The real you that we get to see is TERRIBLE. Three: you spend so much time on here trolling and fighting that it is painfully obvious that you have nothing meaningful to do to occupy your time. You're screaming to deal with the silence, the emptiness. But, fortunately, I said none of those things. So, all things considered, I was positively talking you up. You're welcome. |
| Star* 16.03.2020 15:51 |
Sad you are always on here to Thomas so you must have fuck all to do as well. How can i be homophobic when Freddie is my ultimate hero? You know nothing about me and in fact if you ever met me you would be pleasantly surprised what a nice person i actually am. I may come across as nasty but those who press my buttons will get blown to bits ! |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.03.2020 15:57 |
I suggest you re-read my previous post. Or, better yet, if there's any real-life person who still tolerates you near them, you could ask them to read (and probably explain) it to you. |
| Star* 16.03.2020 17:13 |
I am not really bothered to read your posts because you are completely irrelevant to me and so everything you post gets dismissed ! You can get back to watching your porn now cocker. |
| brENsKi 16.03.2020 19:53 |
Fred46 wrote:I am not really bothered to read your posts because you are completely irrelevant to me and so everything you post gets dismissed ! You can get back to watching your porn now cocker.why are you calling yourself Fred46 ? what's the reason behind this name? |
| Star* 16.03.2020 20:05 |
I could ask you the same question, why are you calling yourself Brenski ? Here is a clue for your little air head, i am quite fond of a certain singer who was born in Zanzibar in 1946 and ended up the greatest male rock vocalist and showman, has the penny dropped yet? |
| brENsKi 16.03.2020 21:56 |
Fred46 wrote:I could ask you the same question, why are you calling yourself Brenski ? Here is a clue for your little air head, i am quite fond of a certain singer who was born in Zanzibar in 1946 and ended up the greatest male rock vocalist and showman, has the penny dropped yet?your clues a a little vague, there. i know that Subhash Modi was born is Zanzibar in 1946 and was a highly-respected Cricket Umpire, but i had no idea he went on the become the Greatest Male Rock Vocalist and Showman. Still, goes to show - something new to learn every day. Tell me Gerry, what are some of Subhash's best tunes? ...and which circus was he managing? |
| PAPA EMERITUS VI 16.03.2020 22:14 |
I think Andre Rieux |
| Star* 17.03.2020 07:27 |
Paddy Brenski thinks he is clever lol Still Michael Mcintyre thinks he is funny too but we all know he is crap! Keep trying paddy you may make the Appelby pikey show yet! |
| Vocal harmony 17.03.2020 11:19 |
Fred46 wrote: I could ask you the same question, why are you calling yourself Brenski ? Here is a clue for your little air head, i am quite fond of a certain singer who was born in Zanzibar in 1946 and ended up the greatest male rock vocalist and showman, has the penny dropped yet?How about this question. Why shouldn't he? Almost none of us use our real names, but we stick to the names we've chosen for years. Others (you) change your name constantly. It's pointless we all know you're name is Gerry, your original meme change, and a number that followed, were because you were banned and in some cases heavily edited from threads. Now your name changes look like attention seeking trolls. |
| brENsKi 17.03.2020 13:22 |
Vocal harmony wrote:Now your name changes look like attention seeking trolls.what all of them? blue purple green blue orange purple blue green red orange purple red purple red purple green blue orange purple red orange red orange red green blue orange bluered i thought these few: orange purple red purple purple blue were just Gerry's online banking passwords |
| Star* 17.03.2020 13:53 |
Paddy Brenski Shock horror i am so controversial and you must have a stutter because you have already told me 100 times i was banned but that is new to me yawn yawn yawn.......... If your little brain gets so confused with my name changes then you must keep up lol Happy St Patricks day my dear. |
| brENsKi 17.03.2020 14:14 |
Fred46 wrote:Paddy Brenski Shock horror i am so controversial and you must have a stutter because you have already told me 100 times i was banned but that is new to me yawn yawn yawn.......... If your little brain gets so confused with my name changes then you must keep up lol Happy St Patricks day my dear.it was VH who said you'd been banned this time. learn to read, you snot-faced, moronic, racist, imbecile! but as YOU insist on raising this issue with me again. At least SIX of purple green blue orange purple blue green red ...have been banned. Where you simply change your username ALL posts for that ID change to the new username. however, the proof of the other accounts having been deleted rests with the fact that those who quoted one of your (later) deleted accounts have retained the original (deceased) username in that quote. Poor Gerry, has no idea how forum posting works. |
| Star* 17.03.2020 14:45 |
Listen i do not listen to fodder especially from Vocal Harmony who is a shit stirrer like yourself in fact i am still adamant that Vocal Harmony & Brenski are the same user on here. Never listen to tittle tattle or you will end up like President Trump ! |
| brENsKi 17.03.2020 15:38 |
Fred46 wrote:Never listen to tittle tattle or you will end up like President Trump !wtf? if i listen to tittle-tattle, i'll end up Leader of the Free World? |