| Joxer 07.11.2018 00:25 |
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| MisterCosmicc 07.11.2018 00:49 |
Interesting read! He must be the first one to bring up cancelled interviews... |
| The Fairy King 07.11.2018 07:48 |
Joxer? Wait...what? |
| Supersonic_Man89 07.11.2018 10:03 |
Wow, great find. Very interesting... in one moment he seems to really dislike all the band, but in the next claim he spent 3 months to attend Freddie's birthday despite no longer working for the band... also suggested he saw them in Slane also. Tbh, before reading this article i had presumed PP's era was '77 to '86.... but he mentions that he was around when they recording Bo Rhap... So if he did 9 and a half years as he said, that'll be mid 75 to late 84/early 85? Fascinating to hear his take on the interview situation... almost like he's sticking up for himself beyond the grave... the idea that Freddie would cancel at the last minute for interviews, does sound entirely plausible... which then could explain why PP would be fed up and just tell the radio station that Freddie didn't want to talk etc. There's too much evidence in the contrary for me to change my mind on him, also you can tell in the way he speaks, he's not genuine. Really makes it seem like he had no interest in parties or the lifestyle, and he was the responsible one. He seems very bitter and that in itself, makes me wonder if what he's saying is true. |
| scottmax 07.11.2018 17:28 |
Interesting read. Tbh he comes over as a bit of self righteous cunt Just my opinion..... |
| stevelondon20 07.11.2018 18:29 |
The bloke was a twat. |
| Darthritis1 07.11.2018 18:38 |
Wow. Thank you Joxer, this is a great find and very interesting. So Paul turned down requests to return to his old post did he?!!! ???? Yep of course he did, the lying, self righteous twat. The interview has sour grapes written all over it. |
| bucsateflon 07.11.2018 21:07 |
"69 gigs in 73 days" Thats Rock 'n Roll to you |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 00:20 |
Top news here. What a dick, but I keep thinking about those cancelled interviews that Brian talked about a couple years ago, and now reading this from 1987. |
| RobbyBloodshed 08.11.2018 02:48 |
Ugh this guy really thinks his shit doesn’t stink. Most annoying thing when he said “we recorded Bohemian Rhapsody”. No it wasn’t “we”, Paul. You were simply in the studio watching history. Being bored in the studio happens, especially when he people actually peforming are perfectionists...Plus it was your job to be there, gimme a break. I think of much worse jobs. This guy was a dope. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 06:32 |
Yes, but he brought up the interviews being canceled before Brian did. |
| bucsateflon 08.11.2018 09:47 |
Freddie and the others were no idiots, right? they had high education and they were mature people when Queen took off and never felt you were in the presence of naive rock stars. So how come this person called Paul Pranter managed to deceive(trick, hoax, dupe, take in, mislead, delude, fool, outwit, misguide, lead on, seduce) Freddie and the others for so many years? It doesn't add up, thats why I think the truth might be somewhere in the middle, probably the band used him and humiliated him in the same deceiving manner. |
| dysan 08.11.2018 10:04 |
I haven't read the whole thing yet but some of these titbits are interesting. So he was actually around in '75? And I can totally believe about interviews - Freddie cancelling so he just thought there's no point in getting these things booked in. Anyone who has ever had a job of any substance will sympathise! |
| Dr Magus 08.11.2018 10:24 |
If he was around in 75 surely there would be photos of him with the band from this period. Don't think i've ever seen any. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 10:25 |
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| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 10:26 |
Sure there are. |
| on my way up 08.11.2018 12:06 |
That's 77. |
| Costa86 08.11.2018 12:16 |
To go from manager of Queen to "Entertainment Officer" for DIT Students Unions... wow. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 12:33 |
Old enough. I don't even think he worked for Queen in 77. I think he was just friends with Freddie. |
| dysan 08.11.2018 12:33 |
Why is Straker sniffing his fingers? |
| oligneisti 08.11.2018 12:34 |
dysan wrote: Why is Straker sniffing his fingers?He's wondering where the smell of sulfur is coming from. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 12:39 |
He was playing with Paul’s bunda. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 12:39 |
I wonder what Straker thought of Paul? |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 12:43 |
I heard Paul had told some guys he flirted with that he wanted to “make babies” with them. I heard he had some weird impregnation obsession. |
| dysan 08.11.2018 13:38 |
Yeah Straker's take on Prenter would be interesting. He's very level headed and intelligent so would have a good account. |
| greaserkat 08.11.2018 20:42 |
So, would we be able to say that there may be some truth behind what was portrayed in the Bohemian Rhapsody movie about John Reid introducing Paul to Queen? |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 23:22 |
I wouldn't doubt it. |
| MisterCosmicc 08.11.2018 23:56 |
Love Makers? |
| The Real Wizard 09.11.2018 02:36 |
Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Really makes it seem like he had no interest in parties or the lifestyle, and he was the responsible one.Wasn't he the one who dragged Mercury into the NYC gay scene? Doesn't sound like a homebody to me. Revisionist history. |
| The Real Wizard 09.11.2018 03:56 |
bucsateflon wrote: Freddie and the others were no idiots, right? they had high education and they were mature people when Queen took off and never felt you were in the presence of naive rock stars. So how come this person called Paul Pranter managed to deceive(trick, hoax, dupe, take in, mislead, delude, fool, outwit, misguide, lead on, seduce) Freddie and the others for so many years?Mercury had a pretty serious cocaine habit by the early 80s. And when you have a drug problem, responsibility for oneself tends to go by the wayside. Combined with his life becoming a series of night clubs and one night stands, he was falling off the rails. It hit a point where he wasn't showing up to mixing sessions for his own songs. 1982-85 was not a good period for the band. Brian has since spoken of his concern about Freddie's downward spiral, but they've generally been good at covering it up and being respectful of their legacy later in life (same as McCartney does when asked about his difficulties with John Lennon) because it's not their dirty laundry to share. Not every band is The Eagles. |
| on my way up 09.11.2018 08:24 |
Well, this film SHARES the dirty laundry and - what is worse - without all the nuances that help you understand what happened to Freddie (and to some degree the others)... He had a bad period in his life and made some poor decisions but even then he at least somehow managed to keep the boat floating. Just tough luck that that awful disease came into play... Sadly, aids was even faster than Freddie : -( |
| The Real Wizard 09.11.2018 09:46 |
RobbyBloodshed wrote: Most annoying thing when he said “we recorded Bohemian Rhapsody”. No it wasn’t “we”, Paul. You were simply in the studio watching history....after he says he was hired "three months" before they split with John Reid, which would be right around when they released News Of The World. So if he's willing to lie about basic facts, there's not much foundation to build upon to get anything of value from the guy. "They didn't have the same concept of the real world as I had" ...that "real world" where he had sold out Mercury to a tabloid six months earlier? He said there were no more drug overdoses in the biz - a year after Phil Lynott OD'd on heroin. And insisted there were no active rock legends in 1987. Springsteen? Genesis? Bowie? Floyd? "If you have the talent and the perseverance and the singlemindedness then you will make it. Eventually." Yeah, no. Even by the mid 80s that was so unbelievably false. You made it if you had good hair and were seen as an opportunity to bring in cash for the white suits to spend on hookers and blow. Talent was already mostly irrelevant in pop music by then. Man, he was out of touch with reality. The fact that this moron stayed on the payroll through 1985 can only highlight the tensions between Mercury and the rest of the band. And he had the audacity to say "most people in the street have never heard of Queen" - when they were the biggest band in most of the civilized world at that point. Was he walking the streets of the Philippines? He calls Queen "unreasonable and ungrateful individuals." Nope. Reality check: he got to work with one of the greatest rock bands ever, and he was sent packing because he was the vile, bitter philistine that we can see clear as day after reading this blurb. And he even lied about his job description. He wasn't their manager - Jim Beach was (and still is). What a piece of shit. |
| aristide1 09.11.2018 11:45 |
You know they were more popular in "the territories" (as record companies liked to say) than at home. "Streets of Philippines" sounds like a Freudian slip after you mentioned Springsteen. At least for someone with a dangerous level of political correctness as you. And yes, it's a piece of shit. I like the "I was not an alcoholic, I had an alcohol dependency problem" paragraph. |
| MisterCosmicc 09.11.2018 14:48 |
He was obviously angry he was fired. What was the exact reason for being fired? |
| beemack74 15.11.2018 01:36 |
Ratty claimed that Prenter had a party in Freddie's Stafford Terrace flat (in which he had been very kindly allowed to stay by Freddie), and the whole place got trashed. Freddie sacked him and Prenter vowed revenge- a revenge that appeared in a shitty gutter tabloid several months later. What a fucking weasel Prenter was. |
| k-m 18.11.2018 23:45 |
Such an interesting find! One thing which did surprise me was that Prenter actually did seem to know a few things about music and showbiz. The way he seems to portray himself as the decent one who eventually had to distance himself from it all is pretty incredible though, he certainly had some cheek! Btw, does anyone know when he got ill? He seems to look fine in the pictures. |
| k-m 18.11.2018 23:45 |
Such an interesting find! One thing which did surprise me was that Prenter actually did seem to know a few things about music and showbiz. The way he seems to portray himself as the decent one who eventually had to distance himself from it all is pretty incredible though, he certainly had some cheek! Btw, does anyone know when he got ill? He seems to look fine in the pictures. |
| bucsateflon 19.11.2018 16:26 |
beemack74 wrote: Ratty claimed that Prenter had a party in Freddie's Stafford Terrace flat (in which he had been very kindly allowed to stay by Freddie), and the whole place got trashed. Freddie sacked him and Prenter vowed revenge- a revenge that appeared in a shitty gutter tabloid several months later. What a fucking weasel Prenter was.Naive people think this was the only reason... |
| The Real Wizard 09.12.2018 20:34 |
k-m wrote: Btw, does anyone know when he got ill? He seems to look fine in the pictures.Dunno. But he died in 91 as well. |
| FunLovinCriminal 09.12.2018 22:54 |
Peter Straker stated in the hilarious FM/AIDS-„docu“ that he had been wary of Paul Prenter, tried to get along with him and that he (Straker) never really understood what role Prenter played in Freddie's life. Seems a bit strange to me, since he obviously used to hang out with Freddie's entourage quite a lot. But apparently quite a lot of aspects in Freddie's life had never been discussed openly with his friends. In the end, most of Prenter's misdoings are the result of Freddie having been rather irresponsible towards himself. As the Wizard stated above, he must have had a rather destructive cocaine-habit in the early 80's. In spite of the fact that Prenter might have had interests that weren't sincere, someone did allow him to take a position in which he was able to actually misuse his power. Would be interesting to know how insistent the other guys in Queen tried to open Freddie's eyes at that time. Never read anything about it, apart from Maylor stating that they all went off the rails in the early 80's. The Prenter-interview itself is pathetic. |