QueenZone discussion #1481535

Rick wrote: - WATC video shoot concert - Houston 1977 - Demos - Unreleased tracks - Album in 5.1 YES PLEASE

Freddie rey wrote: I'm starting to getting exited, as every queen product before we know all the details, I hope that when we know all the details that excitement didn't become angry

Dr Magus wrote: The £200 deluxe edition includes one of Frank's pubes.

Anton3283 wrote:

Rick wrote: - WATC video shoot concert - Houston 1977 - Demos - Unreleased tracks - Album in 5.1 YES PLEASE

Dream on

Rick wrote:

Anton3283 wrote:

Rick wrote: - WATC video shoot concert - Houston 1977 - Demos - Unreleased tracks - Album in 5.1 YES PLEASE

Dream on

Not including Houston 1977 would be a huge missed opportunity. Then again, QPL and missed opportunities go hand in hand.

Anton3283 wrote:

Dr Magus wrote: The £200 deluxe edition includes one of Frank's pubes.

Who is this Frank?

Anton3283 wrote:

Rick wrote:

Anton3283 wrote:

Rick wrote: - WATC video shoot concert - Houston 1977 - Demos - Unreleased tracks - Album in 5.1 YES PLEASE

Dream on

Not including Houston 1977 would be a huge missed opportunity. Then again, QPL and missed opportunities go hand in hand.

I agree

Rick wrote:

Anton3283 wrote:

Rick wrote:

Anton3283 wrote:

Rick wrote: - WATC video shoot concert - Houston 1977 - Demos - Unreleased tracks - Album in 5.1 YES PLEASE

Dream on

Not including Houston 1977 would be a huge missed opportunity. Then again, QPL and missed opportunities go hand in hand.

I agree

Would be great if they have a better audio source available. The bootleg video has great sound, but the mix is very dry and has no live feel at all.

Biggus Dickus wrote: Away with Houston 1977 and unreleased tracks etc. Us true fans want replica of the snow used in both WWRY and SYW music videos.

fr1986 wrote: There is NO confirmation of Houston 77' yet, am i right? or i missed something? Until there is no press release confirming the Houston Gig i won't get the minimum excitement out of this announce. Sorry QPR but you earned it.

Anton3283 wrote:

fr1986 wrote: There is NO confirmation of Houston 77' yet, am i right? or i missed something? Until there is no press release confirming the Houston Gig i won't get the minimum excitement out of this announce. Sorry QPR but you earned it.

Yeah yes you're right .

CM wrote: Lets get ready for a 30 minutes version of houston 77 (from a complete show we all have seen), plus 10 minutes of the WATC VIDEO concert (from a much longer tape they will let us know that there is), plus 3 outtakes (from a much bigger set of NOTW outtakes archive).

on my way up wrote: Fact is: if Houston were to be included, were it not the logical thing to screen that Houston '77 concert at the FM party

Kevinrm15 wrote: The new edition of Classic Rock magazine states that it will be "an elaborate collectible box set" with vinyl, CD and DVD formats. Rare versions of original album tracks, 60 page book and the documentary.

Kevinrm15 wrote: The new edition of Classic Rock magazine states that it will be "an elaborate collectible box set" with vinyl, CD and DVD formats. Rare versions of original album tracks, 60 page book and the documentary.

dave76 wrote: The thing is that i'm excited and worried at the same time. I mean, we all know QPL's strategy and how they let us down so many times in the past so let's hope for the best.

mike hunt wrote: Hopefully It will be worth buying. The last product I bought was the Rainbow Box. Nothing has been worth buying since.

Kevinrm15 wrote: I have a feeling we'll see My Melancholy Blues from the BBC sessions as bonus footage. And maybe some Houston 77 highlights.

on my way up wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: I have a feeling we'll see My Melancholy Blues from the BBC sessions as bonus footage. And maybe some Houston 77 highlights.

Only highlights?

Kevinrm15 wrote: The new edition of Classic Rock magazine states that it will be "an elaborate collectible box set" with vinyl, CD and DVD formats. Rare versions of original album tracks, 60 page book and the documentary.

DrumBrother wrote: Sleeping on the Sidewalk live??? Not sure that ever happened.

Penetration_Guru wrote: Bonus disc: WWRY (Intro Tape) from Houston WWRY (Pink/Beyoncé/Britney version) WWRY (Musical Cast) WWRY (Glee) WWRY (fast version, from Live Killers) WWRY (studio version, with extra guitars) WWRY (instrumental) WWRY (new version, featuring Adam Lambert) credits WWRY written by Brian May

Kevinrm15 wrote:

on my way up wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: I have a feeling we'll see My Melancholy Blues from the BBC sessions as bonus footage. And maybe some Houston 77 highlights.

Only highlights?

Greg Brooks has stated on many occasions over the last 5 years that the Houston concert will not be released in full. Just the best bits. Instead of using it on a live compilation with Hyde Park and Earls Court, they could very well use it on this box set.

seagull wrote: I for one am excited. What a fantastic album to have a Super Deluxe Edition of. I hope it's remastered by CMI

Chopin1995 wrote: Good news! So you are saying there are many hours of Bob Harris footage and 4h Freddie interview alone??? So the whole documentary is like what? ...15 hours???!!! I would watch it all in 2 days if they'd release it but sadly I can't imagine it happens. They could release 2h official documentary in one disc and on the other discs 10h of outtakes :d but I'm afraid things will be very different. I'd love to watch WATC video shoot concert (FULL concert) so I hope at least for this but again, I read there were only 2 cameras filming this so I don't know if they can release such an 'imperfect' video.

pittrek wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: Good news! So you are saying there are many hours of Bob Harris footage and 4h Freddie interview alone??? So the whole documentary is like what? ...15 hours???!!! I would watch it all in 2 days if they'd release it but sadly I can't imagine it happens. They could release 2h official documentary in one disc and on the other discs 10h of outtakes :d but I'm afraid things will be very different. I'd love to watch WATC video shoot concert (FULL concert) so I hope at least for this but again, I read there were only 2 cameras filming this so I don't know if they can release such an 'imperfect' video.

He shot several different interviews with every member, he shot the recording of the 1977 BBC session, recording of some of the album tracks (at least WATC), they're trip to the USA, they shot a lot of stuff in the USA,something from the Houston gig, Houston soundcheck, a lot of Houston backstage stuff ...

Doga wrote: If i could ask for a show to go with this special edition of NOTW will be the last night of the European Tour, the 13th of May, the setlist was insanely good. Of course, is probably not recorded, but will be the nicest of the surprises. We Will Rock You (slow/fast), Brighton Rock, Somebody To Love, White Queen, Death On Two Legs, Killer Queen, Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy, I'm In Love With My Car, Get Down Make Love, The Millionaire Waltz, You're My Best Friend, Spread Your Wings, It's Late, Now I'm Here, Love Of My Life, '39, My Melancholy Blues, White Man, The Prophet's Song, guitar solo, The Prophet's Song (reprise), Liar, Bohemian Rhapsody, Keep Yourself Alive, Tie Your Mother Down, Sheer Heart Attack, Jailhouse Rock, We Will Rock You, We Are The Champions, God Save The Queen

Rick wrote: The three London gigs in 1978 were properly recorded, right? Audio, that is.

on my way up wrote:

Rick wrote: The three London gigs in 1978 were properly recorded, right? Audio, that is.

This is what we thought for years since the article "Queen live in the seventies" mentioned this. But - apparently - sources close to the band have denied this in recent times (same for the UK 1984 shows...)

Rick wrote:

on my way up wrote:

Rick wrote: The three London gigs in 1978 were properly recorded, right? Audio, that is.

This is what we thought for years since the article "Queen live in the seventies" mentioned this. But - apparently - sources close to the band have denied this in recent times (same for the UK 1984 shows...)

Hmm, a shame. But let's see what they have found in the archives (if they did any thorough searching, that is). Some live tracks from the NOTW tour (other than Houston) would be a dream come true.

Kevinrm15 wrote: The new edition of Classic Rock magazine states that it will be "an elaborate collectible box set" with vinyl, CD and DVD formats. Rare versions of original album tracks, 60 page book and the documentary.

softcalavera2 wrote: No chance about include Houston 77 or Earls Court 77, i think that both of them are to release individually...like Odeon 75 or Rainbow 74.

popy wrote:

softcalavera2 wrote: No chance about include Houston 77 or Earls Court 77, i think that both of them are to release individually...like Odeon 75 or Rainbow 74.

Why people insist with Earls Court? That's part of A Day At The Races tour.

matt z wrote: Yes, Dappy....the 8th dwarf

on my way up wrote:

Rick wrote:

on my way up wrote:

Rick wrote: The three London gigs in 1978 were properly recorded, right? Audio, that is.

This is what we thought for years since the article "Queen live in the seventies" mentioned this. But - apparently - sources close to the band have denied this in recent times (same for the UK 1984 shows...)

Hmm, a shame. But let's see what they have found in the archives (if they did any thorough searching, that is). Some live tracks from the NOTW tour (other than Houston) would be a dream come true.

I totally agree. There's clearly "a" recording of the last night from that 1977 tour... Reading the reviews from that show really makes you want to hear that show! FM was apparently in top shape as were the rest of the boys and the setlist is the best they ever had (just compare to Hot Space US tour just 5 years later, a day and night difference)

softcalavera2 wrote:

popy wrote:

softcalavera2 wrote: No chance about include Houston 77 or Earls Court 77, i think that both of them are to release individually...like Odeon 75 or Rainbow 74.

Why people insist with Earls Court? That's part of A Day At The Races tour.

yes, you right!! i only said Earls Court because a lot of people speak about it with Houston.

Freddie rey wrote: I'm starting to get exited, as every queen product before we know all the details, I hope that when we know all the details that excitement didn't become angry

soxtalon wrote: Thus the cycle begins. Possibility of products leak somewhere other than the band. Product with little information confirmed by band Wild speculation of what *COULD* be included Ramped up enthusiasm and convincing self that this time QPL could get it full on right Actual product information released ala wet fart in church. However, with that being said...I myself am full on in the speculation and convincing myself phases. I want outtakes more than anything else. Unreleased demos, alternate takes, etc. We know they exist. THIS is when you put those out. BUT they are at least ahead of the ball by including the documentary. I have faith that Simon Lupton (who had partnered with Rhys on Days of Our Lives and TGP if I recall correctly) will deliver as faithful a doc as possible, if allowed. It would be great if they had gotten Bob Harris to come back in and narrate if need be!

Rick wrote: The three London gigs in 1978 were properly recorded, right? Audio, that is.

Ale Solan wrote:

Rick wrote: The three London gigs in 1978 were properly recorded, right? Audio, that is.

Every single Queen gig from 1970 to now was recorded and remains in Queen vaults.

cmi wrote: Of course not! PROPER recording means MULTITRACK recording, not dry unbalanced mono or stereo (at best) soundboard recording on reel-to-reel or something...

Ale Solan wrote:

Every single Queen gig from 1970 to now was recorded and remains in Queen vaults.

Really?

Penetration_Guru wrote: Anton3283 wrote:

Ale Solan wrote:

Every single Queen gig from 1970 to now was recorded and remains in Queen vaults.

Really?

Probably not. It's one of those oft-repeated but unsubstantiated statements, like "Knebworth must have been recorded because there were cameras there"

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

cmi wrote: Of course not! PROPER recording means MULTITRACK recording, not dry unbalanced mono or stereo (at best) soundboard recording on reel-to-reel or something...

You realize that quite a lot of high quality music, including, say, most of modern jazz, was always recorded on stereo reels, not multitracks? All of Rudy Van Gelder's magnificent work was done with stereo reels, and all the universally acclaimed Rudy Van Gelder-editions were sourced from stereo reels. You don't actually *need* multitracks unless you're going to overdub.

softcalavera2 wrote: News: The magazine Classic Rock says that the box set include: CD, DVD, Bluray, LP and a book with 60 pages.

on my way up wrote:

softcalavera2 wrote: News: The magazine Classic Rock says that the box set include: CD, DVD, Bluray, LP and a book with 60 pages.

So, the album on 1 cd, the album on 1 vinyl and a Blu-ray with the documentary (and like they have done in recent years the exact same content on DVD). Or, do they include more than 1 cd and Blu-ray?

brians wig wrote: I have to laugh ironically that they're including the LP in in the boxset for once: a practice they should have done for previous sets especially for the price we are expected to pay. If you work it out, in reality we are paying around £50 for the book in all those other sets.

dysan wrote: Would be nice to include a reissue of the sci fi comic.

Kamenliter wrote:

dysan wrote: Would be nice to include a reissue of the sci fi comic.

The issue of Astounding Science Fiction from 1953 which featured the original illustration of 'Frank' wasn't a comic, it was a pulp magazine and mainly featured prose stories along with spot illustrations. That said, a repro of at least the cover as a nice print would be pretty cool.

Ale Solan wrote: For you misinformed Queen fans (including Penetration Guru) around the world, please take your time to read this book, Queen live recordings in the vaults and other interestering facts can be found in it.  

*goodco* wrote:

Kamenliter wrote:

dysan wrote: Would be nice to include a reissue of the sci fi comic.

The issue of Astounding Science Fiction from 1953 which featured the original illustration of 'Frank' wasn't a comic, it was a pulp magazine and mainly featured prose stories along with spot illustrations. That said, a repro of at least the cover as a nice print would be pretty cool.

With a great story and some pix of the making of 'War of the Worlds', and its $1.2M budget. I have a copy framed, otherwise I'd open it up and mention more of its contents.

Penetration_Guru wrote:

Ale Solan wrote: For you misinformed Queen fans (including Penetration Guru) around the world, please take your time to read this book, Queen live recordings in the vaults and other interestering facts can be found in it.  

I obviously hit a nerve. Please provide evidence. (The front cover of a book that very clearly doesn't cover their full live career does not count as evidence). My evidence that they didn't record every show is that when they started releasing bootlegs a few years ago, they didn't release their tapes of the concerts in question, just the pre-existing audience recordings. That's not irrefutable evidence, but it's a stronger indication than your "because I say so"

Penetration_Guru wrote: Thinking everything ever written in a book is correct.... Corroboration?

Ale Solan wrote: Queen Productions Ltd?

Ale Solan wrote: Post by Gary Taylor.

Ale Solan wrote:

 

Every single Queen gig from 1970 to now was recorded and remains in Queen vaults.

Panchgani wrote:

Ale Solan wrote:

 

Every single Queen gig from 1970 to now was recorded and remains in Queen vaults.

GT wrote: The book is QUEEN IN CORNWALL by Rupert White (Antenna Publications ISBN 978-1-4477-7647-5), and a superb read it is too.  If you like these pre-Queen early days, then you will love this. Focussing mainly on Roger Taylor's connection with Cornwall, the book follows his story from a small boy, his early musical career, the definitive history with The Reaction, moving to London, returning to Cornwall with Smile and the early days of Queen. Yeppsie ... every queen gig from the 70's until 2017 was recorded ... and Knebworth was recorded in 5.1 surround sound. Fact.  Deal with it. No corraboration necessary ... ok

Penetration_Guru wrote: Looking forward to being wrong when 200 audio shows get released.

Ale Solan wrote: Read the book, if you can, fucking iliterate troll.

Oscar J wrote:

Ale Solan wrote: Read the book, if you can, fucking iliterate troll.

You don't get to call people illiterate if you can't even spell "illiterate".

earwig wrote: "Yeppsie ... every queen gig from the 70's until 2017 was recorded ... and Knebworth was recorded in 5.1 surround sound." Recorded in 5.1 surround sound... do you actually know what this means?! I think not!!

Ale Solan wrote:

Oscar J wrote:

Ale Solan wrote: Read the book, if you can, fucking iliterate troll.

You don't get to call people illiterate if you can't even spell "illiterate".

Oh you never made a typo. You're perfect.

Ale Solan wrote:

earwig wrote: "Yeppsie ... every queen gig from the 70's until 2017 was recorded ... and Knebworth was recorded in 5.1 surround sound." Recorded in 5.1 surround sound... do you actually know what this means?! I think not!!

LOL

Ale Solan wrote:
I don't have anything to prove, the evidence it's inside that book. Buy it and read it. Oh, and that fact is supported by Queen Productions Ltd.
 Denying this information is like denying the Red Special is red.
{QUOTE]
Yesterday, I finally got around to reading Queen In Cornwall and it basically corroborates what is stated about John Harris in Queen The Early Days; that he recorded many, if not the majority of their shows. There is some additional information, from Jim Jenkins:
Speaking about the Tregye Country Club Festival gig, Aug 21 1971:
Was Queen's set recorded too? (As the headliner, Graphite had recorded their set and later released it as a CD):
"Yes, but not by Gerry. (guy who recorded the headliner). John Deacon has recordings of the Tregye gig. John has loads of them! John Harris, the soundman, recorded them all, including the first ever Queen gig in Truro."
He goes on....
"Harris loved Queen. He absolutely loved them. And he knew they were going to be big. He would take a lead from the mixing desk to make the recordings."
So there it is, from an Official Queen biographer, that these shows exist, if not in Queen's vault, then in John Deacon's home! They have to have these recordings and it's absolutely heartbreaking that the band don't see fit to release them in any way.
These are the true holy grail treasures of Queen..the stuff that some of us have dreams about...vivid, lucid dreams where we're in a bootleg shop somewhere and find a vinyl or CD with this stuff...but we always wake up before we can find somewhere to play it...
Well, at least I know I have.

Kamenliter wrote: it's absolutely heartbreaking that the band don't see fit to release them in any way.

Ale Solan wrote: Kamenliter, you're a wise addition to Queenzone. Nice to have you here ;)

Holly2003 wrote: You've been stitched up like a kipper. A Cornish kipper. I now believe from this scant evidence relating only to a brief time in their early career, and in a particular geographic area known for wicker men and burning strangers, that every Queen show in history was recorded and is in a suitcase underneath John Deacon's bed. Get with the programme PG. Drink the kool aid...

on my way up wrote: Ok. We just expect the following: - new documentary on blu-ray and the same content on dvd, maybe a couple extra's - NOTW on cd - NOTW on vinyl - book with already seen pictures and errors :-)

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

on my way up wrote: Ok. We just expect the following: - new documentary on blu-ray and the same content on dvd, maybe a couple extra's - NOTW on cd - NOTW on vinyl - book with already seen pictures and errors :-)

If it turns out that way, they'd better release the DVD/BluRay separately, because there's no chance that I'd fork out for an extra copy of NOTW on cd AND vinyl PLUS a book I'll browse through once.

on my way up wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

on my way up wrote: Ok. We just expect the following: - new documentary on blu-ray and the same content on dvd, maybe a couple extra's - NOTW on cd - NOTW on vinyl - book with already seen pictures and errors :-)

If it turns out that way, they'd better release the DVD/BluRay separately, because there's no chance that I'd fork out for an extra copy of NOTW on cd AND vinyl PLUS a book I'll browse through once.

Agreed. Let's hope it'll be a bit better than that though. Going by the past we're in for disappointment so that's why I have come to expect nothing (decent).

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

on my way up wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

on my way up wrote: Ok. We just expect the following: - new documentary on blu-ray and the same content on dvd, maybe a couple extra's - NOTW on cd - NOTW on vinyl - book with already seen pictures and errors :-)

If it turns out that way, they'd better release the DVD/BluRay separately, because there's no chance that I'd fork out for an extra copy of NOTW on cd AND vinyl PLUS a book I'll browse through once.

Agreed. Let's hope it'll be a bit better than that though. Going by the past we're in for disappointment so that's why I have come to expect nothing (decent).

Well, I would definitely call a stand-alone release of the Bob Harris documentary "decent", potentially "good" (depending on running time and how well it's been edited). Just not "great". Now, there is the *potential* for a GREAT release, especially considering what kind of material Bob Harris supposedly recorded (concerts concerts concerts!), but like you, I have a hard time getting excited before I know the details, because I've not much faith in QPL. Still, I thought both the Milton Keynes 2DVD and the Rainbow Box were pretty close to great, so we do *occasionally* get a pleasant surprise.

Biggus Dickus wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

on my way up wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

on my way up wrote: Ok. We just expect the following: - new documentary on blu-ray and the same content on dvd, maybe a couple extra's - NOTW on cd - NOTW on vinyl - book with already seen pictures and errors :-)

If it turns out that way, they'd better release the DVD/BluRay separately, because there's no chance that I'd fork out for an extra copy of NOTW on cd AND vinyl PLUS a book I'll browse through once.

Agreed. Let's hope it'll be a bit better than that though. Going by the past we're in for disappointment so that's why I have come to expect nothing (decent).

Well, I would definitely call a stand-alone release of the Bob Harris documentary "decent", potentially "good" (depending on running time and how well it's been edited). Just not "great". Now, there is the *potential* for a GREAT release, especially considering what kind of material Bob Harris supposedly recorded (concerts concerts concerts!), but like you, I have a hard time getting excited before I know the details, because I've not much faith in QPL. Still, I thought both the Milton Keynes 2DVD and the Rainbow Box were pretty close to great, so we do *occasionally* get a pleasant surprise.

Rainbow was pretty good. It wasn't great because they kept a lot of the old backing vocal overdubs, autotuned Freddie's vocals and compressed the drum sound to shit. Milton Keynes is probably the best product they've done. It wasn't perfect though. Not getting the full ~60 minutes Japan 1982 live in DVD quality just because Freddie's voice wasn't the best at the time was ridiculous. For this new release, I'm expecting to be disappointed like I've been before.

Ale Solan wrote:

Kamenliter wrote: it's absolutely heartbreaking that the band don't see fit to release them in any way.

Not a single band on Earth would release its entire live catalogue. That's a crazy idea. Wait, not for Penetration Guru... hmmm. LOL

MackMantilla wrote: It will offer a wealth of hitherto unheard and rare versions of the original album tracks directed by Emmy Award-winning director Rhys Thomas

The Real Wizard wrote:

MackMantilla wrote: It will offer a wealth of hitherto unheard and rare versions of the original album tracks directed by Emmy Award-winning director Rhys Thomas

These are the two most encouraging things heard from QPL in years.

The Real Wizard wrote:

MackMantilla wrote: It will offer a wealth of hitherto unheard and rare versions of the original album tracks directed by Emmy Award-winning director Rhys Thomas

These are the two most encouraging things heard from QPL in years.

Biggus Dickus wrote: "and featuring previously unreleased performance and backstage footage from the band's ground-breaking 1977 North America tour " Sounds like another "tour highlights" style solution like Japan 1982 footage on the Milton Keynes DVD. No full Houston I fear. Ugh.

Kevinrm15 wrote: Bob Harris wrote this in the Winter 1977 fan club magazine: "All this brings me on to the film that the band and I are currently making together. It's a one hour documentary, tracing their history (through films from The Rainbow, Hyde Park, Earls Court concerts and stacks of promotional material very few people have ever seen). In fact, I'm off to America next week to finish off the remainder of the concert footage (from the gigs in Texas, as well as filming the major interview with all the band). The we have to edit it all, fit it all together and get it ready for the television by mid-way through January. (I say that knowing that these things always take much longer than everyone expects) but keep a look out for it on Whistle Test towards the end of this series."

SpaceGrey wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: Bob Harris wrote this in the Winter 1977 fan club magazine: "All this brings me on to the film that the band and I are currently making together. It's a one hour documentary, tracing their history (through films from The Rainbow, Hyde Park, Earls Court concerts and stacks of promotional material very few people have ever seen). In fact, I'm off to America next week to finish off the remainder of the concert footage (from the gigs in Texas, as well as filming the major interview with all the band). The we have to edit it all, fit it all together and get it ready for the television by mid-way through January. (I say that knowing that these things always take much longer than everyone expects) but keep a look out for it on Whistle Test towards the end of this series."

Only one hour?

Day dop wrote: It'd be nice if the vinyl version came in a box like the vinyl Queen Rock Montreal version did.

Interestingly the album that took the least amount of time to write and record is the one that potentially has the deepest mine of rarities so far. That said I'm aware of QP's over selling of a product!

on my way up wrote: I think we will indeed not get Houston in full. Let's hope something else will surprise us. On the other hand, Rhys Thomas directing is great news. "Days of our lives" and "The Great Pretender" were actually fantastic documentary's. His clip for "Let me in your heart again" was fabulous. This man knows what he's doing and I'm so glad he's part of the team. I don't get my hopes up yet (which is difficult after having read the text in Classic Rock magazine) but it even at this early stage this looks like it'll bea whole lot more interesting for us than "On air" (even though the 2 disc set of On Air was excellent (it was the "box" that I was furious about and haven't bought!)).

Anton3283 wrote: What if they won't be release nothing and it's just only classic rock dreams ?

Anton3283 wrote: What if they won't be release nothing and it's just only classic rock dreams ?

rhapsody8 wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: What if they won't be release nothing and it's just only classic rock dreams ?

link If there will be a documentary in the upcoming anniversary edition, it's very possible to connection with Rhys Thomas. He's still a "documentary producer" of the band imho. Time for the official announcement???

wertoopu wrote:

Anton3283 wrote: What if they won't be release nothing and it's just only classic rock dreams ?

It was confirmed on a page on the official website.

DrumBrother wrote: Sleeping on the Sidewalk live??? Not sure that ever happened.

cmsdrums wrote: Considering there are hours and hours and hours of the Bob Harris footage, I hope it doesn't get edited down to something like 15-30 mins.

SpaceGrey wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: The new edition of Classic Rock magazine states that it will be "an elaborate collectible box set" with vinyl, CD and DVD formats. Rare versions of original album tracks, 60 page book and the documentary.

"Rare versions of original album tracks" I wonder what it can be

GT wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: The new edition of Classic Rock magazine states that it will be "an elaborate collectible box set" with vinyl, CD and DVD formats. Rare versions of original album tracks, 60 page book and the documentary.

Thank you for sarcasm and jokes. "Rare versions of original album tracks" I wonder what it can be

Well if it doesn't include 'All Dead, All Dead' with Freddie on vocals throughout or RT's demo of 'Sheer Heart Attack', then that would be a travesty.

GT wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: Considering there are hours and hours and hours of the Bob Harris footage, I hope it doesn't get edited down to something like 15-30 mins.

Well they certainly won't show you everything that's for sure. If BM or RT don't like something then it will be edited out.

GT wrote: It's not sarcasm

soxtalon wrote: Do we know for sure if Freddie sang sleeping on the sidewalk during the gigs? I mean it definitely makes sense - just curious... And I would love to hear Freddie's all dead all dead and Roger's SHA. Wonder what else is hiding in the vaults that could escape this time around?!

Dr Magus wrote: Hey, i'm excited about this release but i just know that i will yet again be wishing Queen's back catalogue was owned by Robert Fripp.

Ale Solan wrote:

soxtalon wrote: Do we know for sure if Freddie sang sleeping on the sidewalk during the gigs? I mean it definitely makes sense - just curious... And I would love to hear Freddie's all dead all dead and Roger's SHA. Wonder what else is hiding in the vaults that could escape this time around?!

Is not really known if Freddie or Brian sang SOTS but the song was apparently played a couple of times, one of them was in Portland, Maine, USA, 11th November 1977, the first gig of the NOTW tour 1977

tomchristie22 wrote: apart from little snippets of Keep Yourself Alive and One Vision

tomchristie22 wrote: seems a bit too low in his range for convincing delivery.

Sebastian wrote:

tomchristie22 wrote: apart from little snippets of Keep Yourself Alive and One Vision

Also a verse of 'Hello Mary Lou.'

GT wrote: Yes, Freddie sings the lead vocal on the live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk.

GB: Queen Archivist wrote: The anniversary product ... is one of the most exciting things I've EVER worked on - from the very beginning until the recent end. ... Regards GB

Penetration_Guru wrote:

GB: Queen Archivist wrote: The anniversary product ... is one of the most exciting things I've EVER worked on - from the very beginning until the recent end. ... Regards GB

End....?

fr1986 wrote: I wish i could believe you MR. Archivist, but after last year's edited and incomplete Queen sessions, butchered concerts (Manheim, Sao Paulo and Goiders Green) and a complete skip of Hyde and Knebworth park 30th Anniversary(UNFORGIVABLE), i can't get excited. I deeply hope i am wrong this time. I don't want to get excited... So i will just wait until the full product info gets a proper press release on the band's website and thus. avoid any unnecessary hype that could ultimately turn into blinding rage and anger. Hope this time QPL really nail it with this upcoming release.

GB: Queen Archivist wrote: Long before I worked for Queen, in the days where I would dream of scenarios in which I'd somehow find myself locked in the Queen archive (by accident, or design, or through bribery), having to stay there an entire month or more until I was discovered... I would dream of the day when the band would release something (in addition to a new album, I mean) that would completely blow me away. I imagined every permutation of what might exist and what it might be, and I longed to hear it and have it in my hands. One of my favourite albums was always NOTW and it remains so to this day. The anniversary product that's now been disclosed far and wide, for release later this year, and which, quite rightly, is being so massively speculated upon, is one of the most exciting things I've EVER worked on - from the very beginning until the recent end. A big part of any release, surely, should be the surprise element, and while I cannot know how much of the wonderful content will remain unknown until the time of release, I sincerely hope for the sake of all Queen fans everywhere that something of the mystique will remain. There will always be those that feel the need to shout out what they deem you need to hear from them, rather than remain silent and let the excitement of the guessing and speculation continue, just like there will always be people at concerts that have to shout out to the artist on stage, during the quietest most sensitive parts of a recital. They have to be heard. They have to let you know they are there, for God forbid you should ever forget, even for two minutes, that they're present. Sometimes it's best just to wait and see, and offer little, or even nothing. I hope you agree, for never was it more true than for this very special forthcoming package. I will spoil NONE of the News Of The World 40th surprises for you. I will tell you only that you will love what's coming. And so I politely suggest you take a step back in time to the olde days when none of us fans knew what we'd get on the new Queen release, until we actually got it home and listened to it. Nothing can parallel that feeling. Nothing compares. Just wait and see, and in the meantime be excited by the scenarios your expectant mind will doubtless conjure. The wait will be so very very worth it. Regards GB

Biggus Dickus wrote:

Dr Magus wrote: Hey, i'm excited about this release but i just know that i will yet again be wishing Queen's back catalogue was owned by Robert Fripp.

This. King Crimson box sets are incredible.

on my way up wrote: @Queen Archivist: So, everything is decided? It's not that you are now very enthusiastic about what's been proposed and that the chance is that eventually a scaled down version will be released?

Dr Magus wrote:

Biggus Dickus wrote:

Dr Magus wrote: Hey, i'm excited about this release but i just know that i will yet again be wishing Queen's back catalogue was owned by Robert Fripp.

This. King Crimson box sets are incredible.

They certainly are an absolute treasure trove of delight. The Starless box had 27 discs. Imagine a 27 disc Live Killers boxset...oh man!

bucsateflon wrote: writing crazy whishes here won't make a difference

GB: Queen Archivist wrote:

Penetration_Guru wrote:

GB: Queen Archivist wrote: The anniversary product ... is one of the most exciting things I've EVER worked on - from the very beginning until the recent end. ... Regards GB

End....?

GB: I mean until the end of the project, which was recently.

dudeofqueen wrote: MercurialFreddie, re: >Greg, could you tell us whether the project as envisioned by you and GT has been accepted by the band and there won't be any modifications with it before the release ? Impossible for him to do so. QPL reserve the right to do what they want, when they want. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually pulled if, after the press release, there is universal pandemonium over how comprehensive it all is.

GT wrote: Yes, Freddie sings the lead vocal on the live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk.

dudeofqueen wrote: re: >First off GT is no longer working with them. It's entirely possible that material to be included in the set dates back from the time that GT *WAS* working with them; his knowledge of the archive (SOTS live etc) is evidence of that. I'd fully expect him to appear in the credits.......

It is. GB is a contractor and simply works as a consultant. QPL are his employers. The employers take from him on advisement and can simply do what they like. We've all seen dates delayed enough and proposed sets culled in the past. You're simply after some assurance that GB would be insane to give you which, I'm assuming, you hope, can be used once things turn out to not be was 'promised'. There are so many patterns of behaviour here on QZ that I'm surprised people even bother with these days.......

dudeofqueen wrote: You're right, it is, but, realistically, it's not entirely fair to put pressure on for disclosure. We don't know what sort of (if any) NDAs GB (or GT if he has been involved at any point) are subjected to and for what sort of period of time they cover. And, given GB's past experiences here he's hardly likely to divulge details like that which might open him up for further abuse. I've not been his greatest supporter, I have to say, but he is in an unenviable position of being EXPECTED to leave things here when common sense says that he's unlikely to do that. I quite like the speculation without anything concrete position. QPL need to feel important and that their money spent on using a press liaison is well earned. That wouldn't be the case if people connected with the organisation bash out posts to the fan community containing all the specifics. I'd love nothing more than GB to create a post that simply lists absolutely every tape that has been catalogued in the archive and what each contains. He'd be able to dump that on us and never comment again, however, I suspect that, as with his list of Live recordings, it would be hacked to bits with little thanks and leaving him thinking "Why the fuck did I bother?"

dudeofqueen wrote: soxtalon, re: >He (GT) worked with them long enough to know a bit about the archive - and things that may overlap with this project... GT - were you actively involved in this project at any point other than when you and GB were cataloguing the archive? "

GB: Queen Archivist wrote: The Queen Machine rolls on and the new rather special NOTW box is a wonderful and hugely exciting thing, as you'll soon discover when the Press Release hits. Now it's inexorably on to another project as we discover soon what the band has in mind next. Regards GB

popy wrote: I'll say that a press release will be published 3 to 4 weeks before the actual product release date. That's been the pattern so far. So i'll say October.

GB: Queen Archivist wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: soxtalon, re: >He (GT) worked with them long enough to know a bit about the archive - and things that may overlap with this project... GT - were you actively involved in this project at any point other than when you and GB were cataloguing the archive? "

GB (Queen Archivist). I should offer some clarity here... GT was not involved in the NOTW 40th project at any point. Our part-time working relationship ended a year ago when I decided for personal reasons that it was no longer viable, and he agreed. The details are not appropriate to go into here and are tedious anyway. That was private information that would have stayed that way from my point of view, but then GT chose to disclose (in approximately Sept 2016, here on QZ or at QOL or FB) that both our working relationship and friendship had ended. That is emphatically true, but to my mind might best have remained a private matter. While on this subject - to be accurate on an important detail regarding the comment 'other than when you (GT) and GB were cataloguing the archive' ... I should offer further clarity. GT has never worked in the archive with me, nor has anyone else. I work alone, because that's how the band want it - though of course Kris, Justin, Josh and Richard are often around too. GT was consulted by me or Richard Gray on various things at various times, but was never employed by Queen. Some of the confusion arose from GT putting on his Facebook page that he 'works for' Waitress and Queen, when it would have been accurate to offer (if anything) 'sometimes consulted by Greg Brooks, who works for Queen'. The Facebook default does not offer that as an option of course, so it would have been better to imply nothing rather than something misleading which has contributed to the confusion we see here on QZ sometimes. GT generously helped me with information and research when I approached him, and I (or we) quite rightly always acknowledged it if we used it. He is, as you all know, very knowledgable about Queen and was often helpful on things. But that's very different to being formally employed or paid by the band, which he never has been, or working inside the archive with me, which wasn't the case either. It was me that sought his assistance with things, not the band. There was always a clear distinction, even so far as GT only received complimentary Queen product and concert tickets, etc, not financial payment for his time and help, which he'd invariably receive ahead of release - as you might have seen in hundreds of videos he made, and photographs he posted. All is well now. Life is too short for conflict. It's not remotely a big deal for either of us and we've both moved on as people need to in life. The Queen Machine rolls on and the new rather special NOTW box is a wonderful and hugely exciting thing, as you'll soon discover when the Press Release hits. Now it's inexorably on to another project as we discover soon what the band has in mind next. Regards GB

GB: Queen Archivist wrote:

GT wrote: Just to make it clear, I have seen the archive, and have had the privilege to go into the vault when I have worked with GB at Brian's house on a couple of occasions. In fact I was the person who catalogued all of Brian's personal cassettes and many Queen DVDs, over several years, as GB, well, he just couldn't be bothered. I even recorded each track on every cassette and transferred the content to CD for both the BM archive and GB's own collection.

GB: Queen Archivist wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: soxtalon, re: >He (GT) worked with them long enough to know a bit about the archive - and things that may overlap with this project... GT - were you actively involved in this project at any point other than when you and GB were cataloguing the archive? "

GB (Queen Archivist). I should offer some clarity here... GT was not involved in the NOTW 40th project at any point. Our part-time working relationship ended a year ago when I decided for personal reasons that it was no longer viable, and he agreed. The details are not appropriate to go into here and are tedious anyway. That was private information that would have stayed that way from my point of view, but then GT chose to disclose (in approximately Sept 2016, here on QZ or at QOL or FB) that both our working relationship and friendship had ended. That is emphatically true, but to my mind might best have remained a private matter. While on this subject - to be accurate on an important detail regarding the comment 'other than when you (GT) and GB were cataloguing the archive' ... I should offer further clarity. GT has never worked in the archive with me, nor has anyone else. I work alone, because that's how the band want it - though of course Kris, Justin, Josh and Richard are often around too. GT was consulted by me or Richard Gray on various things at various times, but was never employed by Queen. Some of the confusion arose from GT putting on his Facebook page that he 'works for' Waitress and Queen, when it would have been accurate to offer (if anything) 'sometimes consulted by Greg Brooks, who works for Queen'. The Facebook default does not offer that as an option of course, so it would have been better to imply nothing rather than something misleading which has contributed to the confusion we see here on QZ sometimes. GT generously helped me with information and research when I approached him, and I (or we) quite rightly always acknowledged it if we used it. He is, as you all know, very knowledgable about Queen and was often helpful on things. But that's very different to being formally employed or paid by the band, which he never has been, or working inside the archive with me, which wasn't the case either. It was me that sought his assistance with things, not the band. There was always a clear distinction, even so far as GT only received complimentary Queen product and concert tickets, etc, not financial payment for his time and help, which he'd invariably receive ahead of release - as you might have seen in hundreds of videos he made, and photographs he posted. All is well now. Life is too short for conflict. It's not remotely a big deal for either of us and we've both moved on as people need to in life. The Queen Machine rolls on and the new rather special NOTW box is a wonderful and hugely exciting thing, as you'll soon discover when the Press Release hits. Now it's inexorably on to another project as we discover soon what the band has in mind next. Regards GB

splicksplack wrote:

GB: Queen Archivist wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: soxtalon, re: >He (GT) worked with them long enough to know a bit about the archive - and things that may overlap with this project... GT - were you actively involved in this project at any point other than when you and GB were cataloguing the archive? "

GB (Queen Archivist). I should offer some clarity here... GT was not involved in the NOTW 40th project at any point. Our part-time working relationship ended a year ago when I decided for personal reasons that it was no longer viable, and he agreed. The details are not appropriate to go into here and are tedious anyway. That was private information that would have stayed that way from my point of view, but then GT chose to disclose (in approximately Sept 2016, here on QZ or at QOL or FB) that both our working relationship and friendship had ended. That is emphatically true, but to my mind might best have remained a private matter. While on this subject - to be accurate on an important detail regarding the comment 'other than when you (GT) and GB were cataloguing the archive' ... I should offer further clarity. GT has never worked in the archive with me, nor has anyone else. I work alone, because that's how the band want it - though of course Kris, Justin, Josh and Richard are often around too. GT was consulted by me or Richard Gray on various things at various times, but was never employed by Queen. Some of the confusion arose from GT putting on his Facebook page that he 'works for' Waitress and Queen, when it would have been accurate to offer (if anything) 'sometimes consulted by Greg Brooks, who works for Queen'. The Facebook default does not offer that as an option of course, so it would have been better to imply nothing rather than something misleading which has contributed to the confusion we see here on QZ sometimes. GT generously helped me with information and research when I approached him, and I (or we) quite rightly always acknowledged it if we used it. He is, as you all know, very knowledgable about Queen and was often helpful on things. But that's very different to being formally employed or paid by the band, which he never has been, or working inside the archive with me, which wasn't the case either. It was me that sought his assistance with things, not the band. There was always a clear distinction, even so far as GT only received complimentary Queen product and concert tickets, etc, not financial payment for his time and help, which he'd invariably receive ahead of release - as you might have seen in hundreds of videos he made, and photographs he posted. All is well now. Life is too short for conflict. It's not remotely a big deal for either of us and we've both moved on as people need to in life. The Queen Machine rolls on and the new rather special NOTW box is a wonderful and hugely exciting thing, as you'll soon discover when the Press Release hits. Now it's inexorably on to another project as we discover soon what the band has in mind next. Regards GB

For someone who pretends to think all this is "private" and "tedious" you can't seem to stop yourself writing six tedious paragraphs about it (almost as tedious as your bollocks about Tori Amos writing a song about you).

The Ghost of Lester Burnham wrote: Argh, the UI/UX of this site sucks no matter what web browser I use. Let's just pretend I posted the GIF of Michael Jackson eating popcorn in reply to GT's level-headed response to GB's "we've moved on lol not really" post. Because that's what I did before the reply function shit the bed.

Penetration_Guru wrote: A possible tangential question - has GT signed an NDA?

Sebastian wrote: It's safe to assume he must have. But even if he didn't - he'd be nice enough to know what not to divulge.

mooghead wrote: What? Show me 'Freddie only' covers?!

Ale Solan wrote:

mooghead wrote: What? Show me 'Freddie only' covers?!

Wembley, Montreal, Rainbow, etc

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: @GT: You recently mentioned multiple live recordings of Sleeping On The Sidewalk existing. When the Rainbow box came out, we were surprised to find a live performance of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke, which no one I know of had believed was ever performed live. In line with that, I'd like to ask if you know of any other Queen-songs that were performed live but that we don't know about.

popy wrote:

Ale Solan wrote:

mooghead wrote: What? Show me 'Freddie only' covers?!

Wembley, Montreal, Rainbow, etc

Hammersmith, Hungarian Rhapsody, Queen in 3D...

MercurialFreddie wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote: @GT: You recently mentioned multiple live recordings of Sleeping On The Sidewalk existing. When the Rainbow box came out, we were surprised to find a live performance of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke, which no one I know of had believed was ever performed live. In line with that, I'd like to ask if you know of any other Queen-songs that were performed live but that we don't know about.

There were rumours before about this song being played live, nothing specific though. There is also a story that during some show a fan was constantly asking about this song and they played an improvised version of it. Few years ago, the poster who told us about that fact here on QZ even specified the city and the tour though there is no audience recording of that particular show if I recall correctly.

Kevinrm15 wrote: The Brian May/NOTW sixpence is on the official store to be released on Friday. Maybe that's when we'll get the press release for the box set ?

Kevinrm15 wrote: The Brian May/NOTW sixpence is on the official store to be released on Friday. Maybe that's when we'll get the press release for the box set ?

cmsdrums wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: The Brian May/NOTW sixpence is on the official store to be released on Friday. Maybe that's when we'll get the press release for the box set ?

Yup - the box set will be the standard NOTW album, but on cassette with a copy of that commemorative sixpence and some balloons, all for only £150!!

popy wrote:

Ale Solan wrote:

mooghead wrote: What? Show me 'Freddie only' covers?!

Wembley, Montreal, Rainbow, etc

Hammersmith, Hungarian Rhapsody, Queen in 3D...

brians wig wrote: It'd better be a new remix from the multis at the VERY least -

Penetration_Guru wrote:

brians wig wrote: It'd better be a new remix from the multis at the VERY least -

Why do you want it remixing so badly? What's wrong with the original mix? A case could be made for re-mastering, and I agree with you about doing it in surround, but I don't want anyone messing with the balance of the instrumentation to, for example, turn all his guitars up.

Barry Durex wrote: Lets face it, the bulk of this release will probably be a pointless stereo remix, the 2011 remaster, the '77 BBC sessions and a short documentary.

Penetration_Guru wrote:

brians wig wrote: It'd better be a new remix from the multis at the VERY least -

Why do you want it remixing so badly? What's wrong with the original mix? A case could be made for re-mastering, and I agree with you about doing it in surround, but I don't want anyone messing with the balance of the instrumentation to, for example, turn all his guitars up.

brians wig wrote: Anyway. We already have the original album and the 2011 remaster - surely they're not going to make us buy the same mix again - there needs to be some improvement or difference over the 'original'

Barry Durex wrote:

brians wig wrote: Anyway. We already have the original album and the 2011 remaster - surely they're not going to make us buy the same mix again - there needs to be some improvement or difference over the 'original'

Vinyl?

Barry Durex wrote:

brians wig wrote: Anyway. We already have the original album and the 2011 remaster - surely they're not going to make us buy the same mix again - there needs to be some improvement or difference over the 'original'

Vinyl?

Dr Magus wrote: I'd make do with a 20 disc box that consisted of 1 blu ray of 5.1 surround mix of album 1 blu ray full of demos, alt takes, rehearsals and other audio curios all in hi-res stereo 3 blu rays with Houston, Fort Worth, LA Forum xmas show and whatever other shows they have all in hi-res stereo All of the above (except 5.1 album mix) splashed across 15 cds. 100 page hardback book Original press kit, postcards, photos I would gladly pay £100 for such a boxset and it would restore my faith in QPL.

rhapsody8 wrote: I think official announcement will be ready after the release...

Bike It 80 wrote: I'll be very disappointed if a fully fonctional full scale robot is not included with the box set.

Bike It 80 wrote: I'll be very disappointed if a fully fonctional full scale robot is not included with the box set.

Art Lawyer wrote: I think this release will be like this: 1. NOTW album 2017 remaster 2. Additional CD with rare version of each song. 3. Blu-Ray or DVD with documentary. 4. 60 page booklet 5. robots, balloons, tickets etc. That's all. If they release more than this, I will be happy.

Kevinrm15 wrote: November

Freddie rey wrote: on spanish 'THIS IS ROCK' magazine, we have Queen on the cover and a article about NOTW. I don't know if there's any details of the reissue here link

mric! wrote: What about the DVD with the documentary and maybe extras : new interviews and live clips?

mric! wrote: What about the DVD with the documentary and maybe extras : new interviews and live clips?

Killer_queenIII wrote: I'm sure the robot replica and live highlights for NOTW will throw that box set off their Dirty Window.

Doga wrote:

Killer_queenIII wrote: I'm sure the robot replica and live highlights for NOTW will throw that box set off their Dirty Window.

If the robot is big enough, have a smart AI and powerful lasers, be sure of it.

Kevinrm15 wrote: During the summer tour, Queen paid homage to the 40th anniversary of the News of the World album by featuring the robot from the famous Frank Kelly Freas album cover art as part of the stage visuals. Continuing the celebration of that classic album, which contains the band’s iconic anthems “We Will Rock You” and “We Are the Champions,” will be a special News of the World box set due later in the year. “It’s stupendous,” May says of the reissue. “It includes all kinds of goodies that no one has ever heard. We have a new vinyl mastering, which comes straight off the mix tapes as opposed to off copies of the mix tapes. So this is the most faithful reproduction of those master mixes ever. The technical guys went through the multitrack tapes and they done alternative mixes using alternative takes of all the tracks on the album. So that’s going to be something people will be fascinated with. You can hear different guitar solos, different vocal takes. There’s a restored documentary that was never finished about us [at the time of News of the World] in America. It’s fascinating to see us talking about what we were doing and just being on the road. It’s a very rich box set that people will enjoy.” link ... ck=tsmclip

Chief Mouse wrote: ^ Wow, that sounds so good!

Golden Salmon wrote: They will release a limited 100 unit edition. 99 will feature sexbots and 1 will have a killbot. Have fun finding out!

SpaceGrey wrote: and unbelievable and doubtless

Golden Salmon wrote: They will release a limited 100 unit edition. 99 will feature sexbots and 1 will have a killbot. Have fun finding out!

inu-liger wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote: and unbelievable and doubtless

Shut up, Anton

Anton3283 wrote: Blow it up into your asshole

Queenman!! wrote: not a sign of Houston in there.....

Anton3283 wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: not a sign of Houston in there.....

Nobody promised it

Queenman!! wrote: not a sign of Houston in there.....

EDWOOD wrote: If this NOTW boxset is as good as its sounding to be I know what the next thing we'll be hearing from us Queen fans.... 'Hey, when do we get the other 14 studio albums in this form!'

The Real Wizard wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: not a sign of Houston in there.....

Who the hell cares? There is an excellent version of the show available for download here. Precisely how many alternate vocal takes from NOTW are out there for the taking? There are hundreds of concerts out there. I don't care if Queen never release another old concert again. With extremely rare exceptions, the studio stuff is infinitely more interesting.

Queenman!! wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: not a sign of Houston in there.....

Who the hell cares? There is an excellent version of the show available for download here. Precisely how many alternate vocal takes from NOTW are out there for the taking? There are hundreds of concerts out there. I don't care if Queen never release another old concert again. With extremely rare exceptions, the studio stuff is infinitely more interesting.

============================ I care...the documentary from Harris contains lot of pre Houston / US footage. Would be nice to see a few clips of that concert with a excellent audio mix to it.

MackMantilla wrote: According to the Freddie Mercury birthday event in Montreux, the NOTW documentary will be 1 hour long. Hopefully it should include extra footage in the deluxe edition, as they did with DOOL documentary.

dudeofqueen wrote: No one would have any issue with that, however, if they are NOT vintage out-takes and have been embellished with MODERN overdubs (as is extremely likely given past history), then we're not getting what we (stupidly!) hoped for.

The Real Wizard wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: No one would have any issue with that, however, if they are NOT vintage out-takes and have been embellished with MODERN overdubs (as is extremely likely given past history), then we're not getting what we (stupidly!) hoped for.

Not a chance. Brian said it was from the multitrack tapes. It's all from 1977.

MackMantilla wrote: According to the Freddie Mercury birthday event in Montreux, the NOTW documentary will be 1 hour long. Hopefully it should include extra footage in the deluxe edition, as they did with DOOL documentary.

Dr Magus wrote:

MackMantilla wrote: According to the Freddie Mercury birthday event in Montreux, the NOTW documentary will be 1 hour long. Hopefully it should include extra footage in the deluxe edition, as they did with DOOL documentary.

One hour from hundreds of hours of footage will be such a wasted opportunity. I was hoping for at least twice that length.

SpaceGrey wrote: Screening today

splicksplack wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote: Screening today

Anyone on here that is in Montreax that can post a review?

brians wig wrote: Ideally, a seperate release of a 1977 concert would be great. Doesn't need to be part of this boxset.

brians wig wrote: Ideally, a seperate release of a 1977 concert would be great. Doesn't need to be part of this boxset.

N0_Camping4U wrote: Don't have time to read through 21 pages. What is confirmed on the box set?

N0_Camping4U wrote: Don't have time to read through 21 pages. What is confirmed on the box set?

brians wig wrote:

N0_Camping4U wrote: Don't have time to read through 21 pages. What is confirmed on the box set?

Nothing yet. Rumours of a press release on Tuesday.

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I saw the documentary, is there anything people would like to know? It was not made with TV in mind, like previous docs...so there is a lot of long, uncut footage of the band rehearsing/playing - which if airing on the TV would be cut. Interestingly, the reason why this documentary was never made in the late 70's...is because nothing eventful happened apparently. Brian's string breaking during Liar seems to be it...everything went smoothly and it was hard to make an interesting narrative with the hours of footage shot. That is still the case, but the documentary is obviously a lot more interesting to us fans now as seeing a classic such as We Are The Champions being recorded/mixed is now a lot more interesting than seeing a random up and coming song from a current band having the same treatment. There's no new interviews with the band, they weren't available...but there are snippets of unused interview Brian/Roger audio material taken from interview sessions for the previous documentaries. I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance. However, after it was edited together the band weren't too happy with it - they felt the performance wasn't that great and the audio quality, maybe not good enough. Which is a shame, but at the end of the day it was the band's call i suppose. I asked the producer if this could be released as web content or an extra...but apparently the band don't want things which they don't deem to be good enough to be released. I haven't got a perfect memory of the documentary, but if you have any questions i'll try and answer...but i am on holiday at the moment, so i'm not going to be on my computer a tremendous amount.

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance. However, after it was edited together the band weren't too happy with it - they felt the performance wasn't that great and the audio quality, maybe not good enough.

brians wig wrote:

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance. However, after it was edited together the band weren't too happy with it - they felt the performance wasn't that great and the audio quality, maybe not good enough.

Bloody hell. That's from Inglewwod Forum, 22nd Dec. Rumours for years that that show was bootlegged, but it's never turned up and now we were SO close to finally hearing the song and they bloody well change their minds. I wish I'd never known now. They really DO need to get it into their heads that the ONLY people who will be spending £100 on a boxset are FANS - the very people who WANT to hear such material. Wankers.

Queenman!! wrote: Is this the upcoming boxset? link

Hutchence wrote: A special box set of Queen's landmark 1977 album News of the World is here, marking the 40th anniversary of the original release. The new package includes the original album on CD, plus two further CDs of recently unearthed out-takes and rarities from the band's archives, one of which is a newly created ‘alternative’ version of the whole album – Raw Sessions. For many Queen devotees, this Raw Sessions CD will be the most intriguing component of the new release. Mined deep from long-vaulted studio multi-track tapes, this extraordinary parallel album brings to light never-before-heard alternative versions of each of the album’s 11 tracks. Every lead vocal is different, as are most of the lead guitar parts and a great many other instrumental details. Here we experience We Are The Champions anew, with many unfamiliar vocal and instrumental elements, and for the first time at its full-recorded length rather than the edited 1977 album cut. Here also is the chance to discover peak era Freddie Mercury vocals on a track that nobody outside Queen’s inner circle has heard him sing before at all – Brian May’s All Dead, All Dead. The original album version features May himself on vocals. Roger Taylor’s Sheer Heart Attack can be heard with its original long-lost guitar intro and uncut ending. Taylor’s other song, Fight From The Inside, is more remarkable in that we hear his demo vocal worked on in his home studio in preparation for the next sessions. Another outstanding feature of this weighty 40th anniversary box is a pure analogue re-cut of the original vinyl LP, direct from the unmastered analogue master mix tapes. There is also a rich selection of NOTW related memorabilia including three posters and a 60-page book of images, mostly previously unseen. The package is completed with a brand new one-hour DVD documentary, Queen : The American Dream, created from backstage material filmed during Queen’s 1977 USA News of the World tour.

Pim Derks wrote: It's a shame they didn't even include the instrumentals of Rock You and Champions that they've had since 1998 for the karaoke CDs.

dudeofqueen wrote: Queenman, re: >>2 cd's with raw outtakes Nope. Just the 1. Discs 1 and 2 are the LP and the CD standard versions of the album that we already have a million times over. Pretty sure Amazon has this wrong given the track times.

Hutchence wrote: Taylor’s other song, Fight From The Inside, is more remarkable in that we hear his demo vocal worked on in his home studio in preparation for the next sessions.

cmi wrote:

Pim Derks wrote: It's a shame they didn't even include the instrumentals of Rock You and Champions that they've had since 1998 for the karaoke CDs.

Actually CD3 is lame compilation of all previously album-related released tracks: 1) BBC Session 2) Instrumentals from Karaoke Hits/The eYe 3) 2011 Bonus EP 4) The Miracle 1989 CDS 5) Rock Montreal 6) Live At The Bowl 7) Live Killers CD 2 is great BUT no Silver Salmon...again... :( Unfortunately there's no 5.1 mix of the album

cmi wrote: Actually CD3 is lame compilation of all previously album-related released tracks: 7) Live Killers CD 2 is great BUT no Silver Salmon...again... :( Unfortunately there's no 5.1 mix of the album

Viper wrote: hopefully Spread Your Wings (Live in Europe 1979) will be a new thing.

soxtalon wrote: I ****REALLY**** hope people support this release because whether you like it or not...Disc 2 is *EXACTLY* the type of product we want from the band and if we don't support this release despite some misgivings (some understandable, others not) then it is likely we won't get more of what we DO want.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Viper wrote: hopefully Spread Your Wings (Live in Europe 1979) will be a new thing.

How much money says it'll just be the Live Killers version? ... which would mean they're still refusing to say which show it's from. Disc 3 is lazy - almost entirely previously released stuff, when they have at least three NOTW concerts in the vaults. But disc 2 will undoubtedly be fantastic. I just hope people will complain less upon hearing this. That disc is probably as close to a Queen anthology that people have been hoping to hear for all these years.

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

soxtalon wrote: I ****REALLY**** hope people support this release because whether you like it or not...Disc 2 is *EXACTLY* the type of product we want from the band and if we don't support this release despite some misgivings (some understandable, others not) then it is likely we won't get more of what we DO want.

"Just give the blackmailer all he wants, then he'll leave us alone". Sorry, but this kind of argument is just terrible. People can buy any product they like, but to urge people to buy a product they DON'T like merely because it contains a SLIGHT amount of interesting material and MIGHT result in more releases with SLIGHT amounts of interesting material in the future is outrageous. Do you have money to burn? I don't. And I'm not going to waste €120 on a shitty box set just to show that I appreciate the occasional release of something new hidden in a big box of boredom.

cmsdrums wrote:

thomasquinn 32989 wrote:

soxtalon wrote: I ****REALLY**** hope people support this release because whether you like it or not...Disc 2 is *EXACTLY* the type of product we want from the band and if we don't support this release despite some misgivings (some understandable, others not) then it is likely we won't get more of what we DO want.

"Just give the blackmailer all he wants, then he'll leave us alone". Sorry, but this kind of argument is just terrible. People can buy any product they like, but to urge people to buy a product they DON'T like merely because it contains a SLIGHT amount of interesting material and MIGHT result in more releases with SLIGHT amounts of interesting material in the future is outrageous. Do you have money to burn? I don't. And I'm not going to waste €120 on a shitty box set just to show that I appreciate the occasional release of something new hidden in a big box of boredom.

Exactly - it's like a car you think is really shit, underperforms, but is a really nice colour and has got a great drinks holder so you buy it!!

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: Just to confirm...the showing we recieved at the Freddie Birthday bash was definitely HD... bizarre how the public are getting a worse version of it.

cmsdrums wrote: Exactly - it's like a car you think is really shit, underperforms, but is a really nice colour and has got a great drinks holder so you buy it!!

Queenman!! wrote: Dics2 is for all the queenmoaners and die hard Queen fans Disc 1,2,3 is for Joe public. ;)

brians wig wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: Dics2 is for all the queenmoaners and die hard Queen fans Disc 1,2,3 is for Joe public. ;)

What? Joe Public will spend £100 on a boxset?

mooghead wrote: Everyone here needs to buy this, if you steal it from the internet and QPL lose a sale then they simply wont bother again. Show them this is what we are all sitting here waiting for.

brians wig wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: Dics2 is for all the queenmoaners and die hard Queen fans Disc 1,2,3 is for Joe public. ;)

What? Joe Public will spend £100 on a boxset?

Queenman!! wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Viper wrote: hopefully Spread Your Wings (Live in Europe 1979) will be a new thing.

How much money says it'll just be the Live Killers version? ... which would mean they're still refusing to say which show it's from. Disc 3 is lazy - almost entirely previously released stuff, when they have at least three NOTW concerts in the vaults. But disc 2 will undoubtedly be fantastic. I just hope people will complain less upon hearing this. That disc is probably as close to a Queen anthology that people have been hoping to hear for all these years.

========== Funny detail: spread your wings - live in Europe. On BOB's queenlive.ca the source at his live killers analyse is " unknown" . Qp did not take the effort to Find out where it came from? So they rather Said : live in Europe. Amateurs

dudeofqueen wrote: Dr Magus, re: >Greg Brooks has access to every Live Killers show recorded, so he knows exactly which songs come from which shows. Not if the tape boxes aren't correctly labelled he doesn't.......

The Real Wizard wrote: And let's also not assume that Greg has heard everything in the Queen archive. His job is to leaf through *what they give him*.

Negative Creep wrote: Of course the band's archivist has catalogued, arranged transfers and heard everything in the archives

Penetration_Guru wrote: ...and they edited off White Christmas.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Penetration_Guru wrote: ...and they edited off White Christmas.

Where'd you hear that?

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance.

dudeofqueen wrote: >What about Silver Salmon? Recorded much earlier.

Queenman!! wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Viper wrote: hopefully Spread Your Wings (Live in Europe 1979) will be a new thing.

How much money says it'll just be the Live Killers version? ... which would mean they're still refusing to say which show it's from. Disc 3 is lazy - almost entirely previously released stuff, when they have at least three NOTW concerts in the vaults. But disc 2 will undoubtedly be fantastic. I just hope people will complain less upon hearing this. That disc is probably as close to a Queen anthology that people have been hoping to hear for all these years.

========== Funny detail: spread your wings - live in Europe. On BOB's queenlive.ca the source at his live killers analyse is " unknown" . Qp did not take the effort to Find out where it came from? So they rather Said : live in Europe. Amateurs

The Real Wizard wrote:

brians wig wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: Dics2 is for all the queenmoaners and die hard Queen fans Disc 1,2,3 is for Joe public. ;)

What? Joe Public will spend £100 on a boxset?

^ this. No doubt disc 2 is going to be incredible, but surely they could have assembled a similar 1977 live disc from the few shows they have (at least 2 or 3), even if they're raw mono soundboards. But at least they're including Sleeping On The Sidewalk - by far the most interesting live track of the era. We've heard pretty much everything else. Let's face it - Queen's guitarist is Brian May, not Robert Fripp. This is about as good as a Queen release is going to get. Enjoy disc 2, folks - something as good as this may never happen again.

The Real Wizard wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: >What about Silver Salmon? Recorded much earlier.

FFS - don't be going on about that again. The version we've heard is from 1977. This is no longer a matter of debate.

ggo1 wrote: For me the big lost opportunity here is the lack of a blu ray with a 5.1 surround mix. So many of these getting released now. The couple I've heard have been fabulous. You can argue it's not how they were intended but when done well they make the album a whole new experience. If that had been in there I wouldn't have balked at the price of the set. A DVD instead... not enough value for me. This is the first time I've not immediately pre ordered a box set. I'll probably cave or at the very least get it for christmas but it seems overpriced.

Art Lawyer wrote: 8. Sleeping On The Sidewalk (Live in the USA, 1977) 3:49 Portland or Boston??? They recorded these concerts? They recorded all concerts on tour?

soxtalon wrote: To each his/her own. But I'd rather them try something like this than the 100th reissue of Live at Wembley - or Aboslultey the Absolute Greatest Hits...so to pay a little premium to see a step in the right direction...yes indeed I'll pay a little more for it. To me it's really 1-2 discs away from being a truly awesome release. - The Vinyl - Not for me but for a nice

- Disc 1 HAD to be the album and we can argue over doing a remix or a surround sound or whatever. Would have been nice but to me that was never a deal breaker.

- Disc 2 - Awesome and definitely highly interesting

- Disc 3 - The "Clean-Up" disc - This was ALWAYS going to be there. In this attempt to make a complete anniversary edition, collecting the previously released odds and ends was always bound to be a part of this and whether you like it or not - it absolutely makes sense to be there. NOW with that being said the Montreal/MK and most likely Live Killers bits are dumb choices.

- The Documentary - We'll wait and see but I've heard good things about it so that's very desirable

- We don't know what else is in the vaults. We don't know if there is anything more interesting or fitting. We think we do but we don't know.

- We KNEW we weren't getting Houston. It was never in the cards

About the only thing this package lacks is an audio gig from the NOTW tour or at the very least a live highlights disc from the tour.

pittrek wrote:

soxtalon wrote: To each his/her own. But I'd rather them try something like this than the 100th reissue of Live at Wembley - or Aboslultey the Absolute Greatest Hits...so to pay a little premium to see a step in the right direction...yes indeed I'll pay a little more for it. To me it's really 1-2 discs away from being a truly awesome release. - The Vinyl - Not for me but for a nice

Well to me the vinyl is the deal breaker. If they ever release a non-vinyl version I'll buy it, otherwise than that I'll pass, just like I ignored all other post-Rainbow releases.

- Disc 1 HAD to be the album and we can argue over doing a remix or a surround sound or whatever. Would have been nice but to me that was never a deal breaker.

Absolutely.

- Disc 2 - Awesome and definitely highly interesting

I wouldn't call it awesome, but I agree, it sounds interesting on paper, let's wait for the actual disc itself.

- Disc 3 - The "Clean-Up" disc - This was ALWAYS going to be there. In this attempt to make a complete anniversary edition, collecting the previously released odds and ends was always bound to be a part of this and whether you like it or not - it absolutely makes sense to be there. NOW with that being said the Montreal/MK and most likely Live Killers bits are dumb choices.

Of course. But they still could add 2 CDs with the Christmas 77 show and / or 2CDs with Houston. Instead of the vinyl.

- The Documentary - We'll wait and see but I've heard good things about it so that's very desirable

It's one hour long. And it features bits of Houston. Any band which cares about the fans would have a 1 Blu-ray release of the concert, maybe a mix of the upscaled NTSC video and a new HD scan of the Bob Harris footage, and 1 Blu-ray containing a 3-4 hours long documentary.

- We don't know what else is in the vaults. We don't know if there is anything more interesting or fitting. We think we do but we don't know.

NOT having a concert added is unforgivable. Unless they plan to somehow release a separate live release (e.g. Houston) later this year, but the chance of this happening is basically zero.

- We KNEW we weren't getting Houston. It was never in the cards

Funny, I never KNEW anything like that.

About the only thing this package lacks is an audio gig from the NOTW tour or at the very least a live highlights disc from the tour.

Fuck "live highlights discs". But I agree, at least one audio gig SHOULD absolutely be included. Reasons for buying this: - nice packaging - interesting disc 2 - potentially interesting documentary Reasons for not buying this - it costs more than twice of what I expected - filled with crap we already have - no audio concert included - DVD (in 2017!), probably NTSC - no album documentary - no DVD/BD with a 5.1 remix and/or the promo videos - no live DVD/BD - including the vinyl version of the album instead of releasing it separately - the overall laziness of the song titles (live in Europe, live in the USA, live in Paris...)

Doga wrote: There are good things and not so good things with this release. On the good side, the documentary finally will see the light of day with 40 years of delay, and i'll be fantastic to hear the "alternate" News of the world. On the negative side, this could've be handled better, for having hours and hours of footage the documentary can be a bit short, many people won't even use the vinyl and the DVD should have be a BluRay. A "simple" 3 discs release with this, will have a warmer welcome, i think. - News of the World - News of the World alternate - BluRay with a 2 hours documentary and one audio show

Doga wrote: A "simple" 3 discs release with this, will have a warmer welcome, i think. - News of the World - News of the World alternate - BluRay with a 2 hours documentary and one audio show

The Real Wizard wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: Dr Magus, re: >Greg Brooks has access to every Live Killers show recorded, so he knows exactly which songs come from which shows. Not if the tape boxes aren't correctly labelled he doesn't.......

^ ding. That's very often the case. It's not uncommon for boxes in musical or TV archives to be inadequately labelled. And let's also not assume that Greg has heard everything in the Queen archive. His job is to leaf through *what they give him*.

Dr Magus wrote: Greg also states he's saving the details for a potential Live Killers box. Maybe in two years time it could happen.

pittrek wrote: I wouldn't call it awesome, but I agree, it sounds interesting on paper, let's wait for the actual disc itself.

NOT having a concert added is unforgivable. Unless they plan to somehow release a separate live release (e.g. Houston) later this year, but the chance of this happening is basically zero.

Funny, I never KNEW anything like that.

Fuck "live highlights discs". But I agree, at least one audio gig SHOULD absolutely be included.

Vocal harmony wrote:

Dr Magus wrote: Greg also states he's saving the details for a potential Live Killers box. Maybe in two years time it could happen.

I can see the Live Killers box now. Disc 1 original album Disc 2 highlights from Wembley 86! DVD 30 mins of Milton Kynes! £150 thank you. . .

on my way up wrote: The thing is - and this is what makes many fans so angry - that they DO NOT WANT TO GIVE VALUE FOR MONEY. They want as much money as possible and give as little as possible in return! We experience the same emotions as the band in 1974/1975 which inspired Freddie to write "Death on two legs".

Dr Magus wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

dudeofqueen wrote: Dr Magus, re: >Greg Brooks has access to every Live Killers show recorded, so he knows exactly which songs come from which shows. Not if the tape boxes aren't correctly labelled he doesn't.......

^ ding. That's very often the case. It's not uncommon for boxes in musical or TV archives to be inadequately labelled. And let's also not assume that Greg has heard everything in the Queen archive. His job is to leaf through *what they give him*.

In his 2005 introduction to his Queen Live book, Greg clearly states he's catalogued Freddie's comments for nearly every show of the tour

Dr Magus wrote: It's strange to hear people claiming that Bri and Rog are trying to protect their legacy when it's clear they're doing everything in their power to destroy it. Touring the world with their karaoke tribute act and releasing utterly blatant cash-grabs like this boxset. Overpriced and half-arsed at best.

Togg wrote: but it seems to me Brian and Roger are the ones holing it back, maybe they don;t like their performance?

The Real Wizard wrote: Some bands have done much more for their fans, but others have done far worse.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Hardcore Queen fans should be grateful that there is a disc 2 at all. But by the same token, QPL should not be surprised if a fair percentage of said hardcore fans download it.

Precisely. The problem is how do we best feed that back?

brians wig wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote: Some bands have done much more for their fans, but others have done far worse.

Ha! Ain't THAT the truth! The recent "30th Anniversary release" of Motley Crue's "Girls, Girls, Girls" album was THE biggest con in the history of cons. They spent MONTHS 'bigging' it up and when it finally came out it was EXACTLY the same remaster they released back in 2000 with the SAME 5 bonus tracks on it. No wonder they didn't issue any details prior to release. Fans had to find out the truth on day of release. (Ok, it had a crappy bonus interview DVD, but you get my point)

brians wig wrote: Since then, I've believed that it's Jim Beach who's the stick in the mud in QPL. For some reason he holds way too much sway over Brian and Roger.

inu-liger wrote:

brians wig wrote: Since then, I've believed that it's Jim Beach who's the stick in the mud in QPL. For some reason he holds way too much sway over Brian and Roger.

I will back you up 100% on this, I have heard the exact same thing from SEVERAL sources, and word is his daughter who allegedly isn't any much better is in line to take over eventually.

brians wig wrote: Jim Beach had since stepped in and put the kibosh on it, having apparantly told Roger not to give anything away because this was his (ie, Roger's) "retirement fund". Since then, I've believed that it's Jim Beach who's the stick in the mud in QPL. For some reason he holds way too much sway over Brian and Roger.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance.

Man, it's painful to read that.

Panchgani wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance.

Man, it's painful to read that.

... but very appropriate since QPL is hoping for a "Green Chri$tma$"

bootLuca wrote:

Panchgani wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I can reveal that originally the documentary had a very different ending than it does - originally it ended with the band playing 'White Christmas' - it was audio only but with stills and a news report of the unique performance.

Man, it's painful to read that.

... but very appropriate since QPL is hoping for a "Green Chri$tma$"

The reason of the different ending is that they don't want to pay the copyright to Irving Berlin... ;-)

Dr Magus wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Dr Magus wrote: It's strange to hear people claiming that Bri and Rog are trying to protect their legacy when it's clear they're doing everything in their power to destroy it. Touring the world with their karaoke tribute act and releasing utterly blatant cash-grabs like this boxset. Overpriced and half-arsed at best.

Many of the venues were sold out (although certainly not all), reviews were almost entirely positive, and judging by the two shows I saw, the audience loved every minute of it. As far as 99% of the public is concerned - Queen are a greatest hits band, not an album band. They have sold more greatest hits albums than studio albums by far. We can't say the same for The Beatles, which is why the Sgt Pepper box set received a lot more attention both from the band/team and fans. Hardcore Queen fans should be grateful that there is a disc 2 at all. But by the same token, QPL should not be surprised if a fair percentage of said hardcore fans download it. There are going to be a dozen unreleased studio tracks on this box set. For Queen, this is the most they've archival unearthing they've ever done in one shot. Some bands have done much more for their fans, but others have done far worse. I obviously understand your frustration, but you're in an extreme minority.

cmi wrote: ^ it was in 1973.

Michael Allred wrote: Another wasted opportunity by Queen. Called it!

cmsdrums wrote: Whilst there have been comments that we haven't got a 5.1 mix because they've lost the multi-track tapes, just to mention that the press release states: "Mined deep from long-vaulted studio multi-track tapes..." In addition, fact that some of the alternate versions have been created using some of the same takes as the album versions but with different guitar or vocal or other parts, also intimates they have the multi-tracks to have been able to do this?

wertoopu wrote: I seem to remember there being problems (according to QPL) with the multis for Queen I and The Game when making the 2011 remasters... or something. Maybe they have them for some albums but not others?

wertoopu wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: Whilst there have been comments that we haven't got a 5.1 mix because they've lost the multi-track tapes, just to mention that the press release states: "Mined deep from long-vaulted studio multi-track tapes..." In addition, fact that some of the alternate versions have been created using some of the same takes as the album versions but with different guitar or vocal or other parts, also intimates they have the multi-tracks to have been able to do this?

Hmmm... you are right! So they must have multis for NOTW - but I seem to remember there being problems (according to QPL) with the multis for Queen I and The Game when making the 2011 remasters... or something. Maybe they have them for some albums but not others?

Bad Seed wrote: The multi tracks for at least some of NOTW were missing and prompted QPL to put an advert in record collector for information on there whereabouts if I remember rightly. They were eventually located.

inu-liger wrote:

Bad Seed wrote: The multi tracks for at least some of NOTW were missing and prompted QPL to put an advert in record collector for information on there whereabouts if I remember rightly. They were eventually located.

Were they? Is there a source with solid confirmation for this?

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. Looking at the official trailer makes me sad. I'm getting so exited when I see this never seen before footage from documentary and when I think we're getting under 1 hour of this... I'm going to wait until they release more. M U C H more. I'm only 22 so I can wait a bit more 2. Question to most experienced Queenzoners and traders at the same time. Considering they're releasing live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk, do you think we can suddenly get a new audience recording of some earliest shows from NOTW tour? I can understand some collectors love to have some rarities but SOTS isn't gonna be rare anymore. Maybe it will be a reason for them to publish this?

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. Looking at the official trailer makes me sad. I'm getting so exited when I see this never seen before footage from documentary and when I think we're getting under 1 hour of this... I'm going to wait until they release more. M U C H more. I'm only 22 so I can wait a bit more 2. Question to most experienced Queenzoners and traders at the same time. Considering they're releasing live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk, do you think we can suddenly get a new audience recording of some earliest shows from NOTW tour? I can understand some collectors love to have some rarities but SOTS isn't gonna be rare anymore. Maybe it will be a reason for them to publish this?

Chinwonder2 wrote: The official trailer has just been dropped on the YouTube channel: -Chin

popy wrote: Not releasing a Blu-Ray is NOT because most of the footage in the documentary is in SD. It's because they don't want to release the HD Version. Remember the SD Blu-Rays of Freddie Tribute, Rainbow or Hammersmith.

Kamenliter wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. Looking at the official trailer makes me sad. I'm getting so exited when I see this never seen before footage from documentary and when I think we're getting under 1 hour of this... I'm going to wait until they release more. M U C H more. I'm only 22 so I can wait a bit more 2. Question to most experienced Queenzoners and traders at the same time. Considering they're releasing live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk, do you think we can suddenly get a new audience recording of some earliest shows from NOTW tour? I can understand some collectors love to have some rarities but SOTS isn't gonna be rare anymore. Maybe it will be a reason for them to publish this?

I've never heard of anyone having a show that had Sleeping On The Sidewalk on it. I've been collecting live Queen shows for thirty years now and I've seen many, many lists over that time span. Doesn't mean someone out there doesn't have a show or two with it on it; they just never made it to the trading circuit as far as I know.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. Looking at the official trailer makes me sad. I'm getting so exited when I see this never seen before footage from documentary and when I think we're getting under 1 hour of this... I'm going to wait until they release more. M U C H more. I'm only 22 so I can wait a bit more 2. Question to most experienced Queenzoners and traders at the same time. Considering they're releasing live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk, do you think we can suddenly get a new audience recording of some earliest shows from NOTW tour? I can understand some collectors love to have some rarities but SOTS isn't gonna be rare anymore. Maybe it will be a reason for them to publish this?

1. I hear you. It's absolutely tragic that there aren't bonus tracks on the DVD with complete songs. The b/w clips are from the Champions video shoot concert, and we'll be lucky to see a minute or two of it in the documentary. 2. You're best to explore the Boston and Portland music scenes, and maybe you'll be lucky enough to run into people who taped shows or know people who did. It takes time, but rest assured, there are thousands of uncirculated tapes of 1970s concerts sitting in the basements and attics of America.

Kamenliter wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: 1. Looking at the official trailer makes me sad. I'm getting so exited when I see this never seen before footage from documentary and when I think we're getting under 1 hour of this... I'm going to wait until they release more. M U C H more. I'm only 22 so I can wait a bit more 2. Question to most experienced Queenzoners and traders at the same time. Considering they're releasing live version of Sleeping On The Sidewalk, do you think we can suddenly get a new audience recording of some earliest shows from NOTW tour? I can understand some collectors love to have some rarities but SOTS isn't gonna be rare anymore. Maybe it will be a reason for them to publish this?

I've never heard of anyone having a show that had Sleeping On The Sidewalk on it. I've been collecting live Queen shows for thirty years now and I've seen many, many lists over that time span. Doesn't mean someone out there doesn't have a show or two with it on it; they just never made it to the trading circuit as far as I know.

Chinwonder2 wrote:
The official trailer has just been dropped on the YouTube channel:

The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court!
So any ideas where this is from. . . .

cmi wrote: Does anyone noticed quite average quality of famous dressing room shots and some well-known others...? It seems that these previously used snippets are lost in original film quality or they didn't bother to use the highest quality and used what is easily available....

Queenman!! wrote: But audience recording of SOTS? Didn't they have a soundboard recording?

Vocal harmony wrote: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

The Real Wizard wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

10-6-77 The gig after the Champions video shoot.

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

10-6-77 The gig after the Champions video shoot.

Even if we do not get the Champions concert video and those 77 shows audio in this box, the confirmation we now have that these exist is great info. We haven't heard or seen much rarities but the fact these exist at least has been confirmed.

on my way up wrote: Even if we do not get the Champions concert video and those 77 shows audio in this box, the confirmation we now have that these exist is great info. We haven't heard or seen much rarities but the fact these exist at least has been confirmed.

on my way up wrote: Even if we do not get the Champions concert video and those 77 shows audio in this box, the confirmation we now have that these exist is great info. We haven't heard or seen much rarities but the fact these exist at least has been confirmed.

Vocal harmony wrote: This is more evidence of either the band, QP, or the record company not wanting too, or not caring about releasing things that real die hard fans would love to own. Had the DVD been released on Bluray it could have contained Houston as the main feature. The documentary could have been a supporting feature and then as an extra the We Are The Champions concert. Also a CD of Houston. Had that been the the contens of the box along with discs 1 and 2 I don't think there would be any legitimate complaints. As it is conformation that this stuff is there seems to be at odds with other acts who seem to release stuff people never knew was sitting on a shelf.

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

10-6-77 The gig after the Champions video shoot.

Even if we do not get the Champions concert video and those 77 shows audio in this box, the confirmation we now have that these exist is great info. We haven't heard or seen much rarities but the fact these exist at least has been confirmed.

pittrek wrote:

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

10-6-77 The gig after the Champions video shoot.

Even if we do not get the Champions concert video and those 77 shows audio in this box, the confirmation we now have that these exist is great info. We haven't heard or seen much rarities but the fact these exist at least has been confirmed.

Er... wasn't this common knowledge?

Michael Allred wrote: For anyone complaining the documentary is DVD only.....remember the THREE home video releases of concerts with Paul Rodgers? All three were shot in HD and all three were DVD only. For those of us who liked that collaboration we can only hope that somewhere down the line they will release a blu-ray box set of all three shows but considering that, at least for the moment, Queen are ignoring the Rodgers era (recall that The Cosmos Rocks was never reissued as a deluxe 2 CD set like the other studio albums did) we might have to wait a very long time. Personally I would like to see them release RotC and Ukraine as complete shows instead of the edited ones we got.

Michael Allred wrote: For anyone complaining the documentary is DVD only.....remember the THREE home video releases of concerts with Paul Rodgers? All three were shot in HD and all three were DVD only. For those of us who liked that collaboration we can only hope that somewhere down the line they will release a blu-ray box set of all three shows but considering that, at least for the moment, Queen are ignoring the Rodgers era (recall that The Cosmos Rocks was never reissued as a deluxe 2 CD set like the other studio albums did) we might have to wait a very long time. Personally I would like to see them release RotC and Ukraine as complete shows instead of the edited ones we got.

cmsdrums wrote:

Michael Allred wrote: For anyone complaining the documentary is DVD only.....remember the THREE home video releases of concerts with Paul Rodgers? All three were shot in HD and all three were DVD only. For those of us who liked that collaboration we can only hope that somewhere down the line they will release a blu-ray box set of all three shows but considering that, at least for the moment, Queen are ignoring the Rodgers era (recall that The Cosmos Rocks was never reissued as a deluxe 2 CD set like the other studio albums did) we might have to wait a very long time. Personally I would like to see them release RotC and Ukraine as complete shows instead of the edited ones we got.

I recall Brian stating when Ukraine was released only on DVD that there 'didn't seem to be the demand for Blu Ray'.....for someone so techy in some areas (space dust, 3D etc..).he's a complete ignoramus in others!!!

Vocal harmony wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: The official trailer has just been dropped on the YouTube channel: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

Just spoken to a friend who was at the Drury Lane Champions shoot and he reckons Freddie did not get changed into the sequined leotard. I'd also have been surprised since it wasn't a scheduled 'proper' gig. Why bother? Also once the video was in the can he's pretty certain that the filming stopped.
I can see why it does seem like Drury Lane because of the older lighting rig and you can spot a 'Champions' banner. However the audience do seem a bit low down compared to the 'raked' audience in the Champions video.
(btw out of interest he also tells me they played 'See What A Fool I've Been'.)
So I think it's still a bit of a mystery where the footage is from.

Chopin1995 wrote: So it looks like Freddie changed his suit after the WATC video shoot and before the gig.

pittrek wrote:

on my way up wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Vocal harmony wrote: The black and white live footage with Freddie wearing the sequinned leotard lookis interesting as it doesn't appear to be filmed on the NOTWT, in one of the shots part of the lighting rig is just visible, it's not the crown, it's the rig used in 76/77 US and Europe leading up to Earls Court! So any ideas where this is from. . . .

10-6-77 The gig after the Champions video shoot.

Even if we do not get the Champions concert video and those 77 shows audio in this box, the confirmation we now have that these exist is great info. We haven't heard or seen much rarities but the fact these exist at least has been confirmed.

Er... wasn't this common knowledge?

splicksplack wrote: Was some of the BH footage actually filmed in b/w or is that just an added effect?

Biggus Dickus wrote: In that documentary they lied that the footage was from early 70's and had obviously transformed the footage to very grainy b/w quality to make the supposed year of the shooting believable. That same footage was presented in bright colours in HD in DOOL documentary.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote: So it looks like Freddie changed his suit after the WATC video shoot and before the gig.

The gig started immediately after the final take of WATC. The footage we see is likely from the encore.

inu-liger wrote: Ha! Just spotted an error on Amazon's listing of the box set https://www.amazon.co.uk/News-World-Anniversary-Super-Deluxe/dp/B075CPF1BK/ Under 'Product Description': Disc 1 (original album) includes "All Dead, All Dead" featuring Freddie Mercury on vocal. *The original album version features Brian May.

inu-liger wrote:

Biggus Dickus wrote: In that documentary they lied that the footage was from early 70's and had obviously transformed the footage to very grainy b/w quality to make the supposed year of the shooting believable. That same footage was presented in bright colours in HD in DOOL documentary.

DoRo lied about a lot of shit, and not just on that documentary either. It's probably one of the reasons QPL stopped working with them and want nothing to do with them anymore.

Biggus Dickus wrote: I'm pretty sure that whoever was responsible for compiling their documentaries, the band and Jim Beach had the last say on whatever went into them. They didn't mind the lies it seems.

link "John Deacon brought ‘Spread Your Wings’ to the summer sessions: a smart rock ballad that kept the four musicians on their toes with the writer’s overdubbed acoustic guitar providing the melody to Mercury’s narrative. An unusual choice for a single, given the downbeat tenor of the lyric, it peaked at No.34 in the UK with the instrumental outro trimmed for radio purposes. It would reappear in 1979 as the flip to ‘Crazy Little Thing Called Love’, a US chart-topper and the band’s final 45rpm of the 70s."

Brain May handles the tune like a Texan bluesman

IanR wrote: Other mistakes in the article: WATC dates from pre-1975; Fred doesn't play piano on ADAD, and the riff on FFTI is clearly Rog, not Brian.

Bohardy wrote:

IanR wrote: Other mistakes in the article: WATC dates from pre-1975; Fred doesn't play piano on ADAD, and the riff on FFTI is clearly Rog, not Brian.

Also, when talking about WWRY: "The ensemble’s backing vocals meshed perfectly with Mercury’s rallying cry, lead vocal, and May’s triple tape-looped guitar". Whatever the hell 'triple tape-looped guitar' is meant to mean, it's incorrect.

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: I thought Freddie did have the idea for WATC earlier than 77....so pre-75 could be true?

IanR wrote: Other mistakes in the article: WATC dates from pre-1975; Fred doesn't play piano on ADAD, and the riff on FFTI is clearly Rog, not Brian.

inu-liger wrote:

Bohardy wrote:

IanR wrote: Other mistakes in the article: WATC dates from pre-1975; Fred doesn't play piano on ADAD, and the riff on FFTI is clearly Rog, not Brian.

Also, when talking about WWRY: "The ensemble’s backing vocals meshed perfectly with Mercury’s rallying cry, lead vocal, and May’s triple tape-looped guitar". Whatever the hell 'triple tape-looped guitar' is meant to mean, it's incorrect.

Actually, it isn't. The very last chords are looped (by means of tape duplication and splicing) to repeat what he played on the original take twice more. Brian mentioned it on his soapbox at one point I believe, but it's also mentioned here: link "GROSS: So that's the end of "We Will Rock You," written by my guest, guitarist and singer and songwriter Brian May, who was one of the founding members of Queen. So... Dr. MAY: I should - can I comment on the end of that? GROSS: Yeah, please. (Soundbite of laughter) Dr. MAY: Interesting that you play the end of the song. You can hear the guitar waiting in the wings. You can hear this little feedback note. And so the guitar is present, although it's not taking center stage, all through the last choruses, and then finally, it bursts upon the scene. And you notice, Freddie goes all right, which means he's kind of handing over to the guitar, and we're in a different universe once the guitar starts, and that was the intention. And it's very sort of informal. And you may notice - there's a lot of things to notice. You may notice that the last piece, the very last little riffs, are repeated, and they're not just repeated by me playing them again. They're repeated by cutting the tape and splicing it on again and again. So - and that's deliberate, too. It's a way of getting a sort of a thing that makes you sit up towards the end. And then it stops. There is nothing after it, which I really enjoy. (Soundbite of laughter) Dr. MAY: There's no big ending. It just stops and leaves you in mid-air, thinking, well, what happened there?"

inu-liger wrote: link

The Real Wizard wrote:

inu-liger wrote: link

This really is a great interview. Brian is in a very talkative mood, and goes into a lot of detail.

Kevinrm15 wrote: The track list for the documentary is now on QOL: Queen : The American Dream (One hour) 01 Back Into The Studio 02 We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions 03 Taking Control 04 Sheer Heart Attack 05 The American Tour 06 It's Late 07 Spread Your Wings 08 My Melancholy Blues 09 Get Down, Make Love 10 We Are The Champions

SpaceGrey wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: The track list for the documentary is now on QOL: Queen : The American Dream (One hour) 01 Back Into The Studio 02 We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions 03 Taking Control 04 Sheer Heart Attack 05 The American Tour 06 It's Late 07 Spread Your Wings 08 My Melancholy Blues 09 Get Down, Make Love 10 We Are The Champions

Where ? I can't find it

Kevinrm15 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: The track list for the documentary is now on QOL: Queen : The American Dream (One hour) 01 Back Into The Studio 02 We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions 03 Taking Control 04 Sheer Heart Attack 05 The American Tour 06 It's Late 07 Spread Your Wings 08 My Melancholy Blues 09 Get Down, Make Love 10 We Are The Champions

Where ? I can't find it

link

Kevinrm15 wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote:

Kevinrm15 wrote: The track list for the documentary is now on QOL: Queen : The American Dream (One hour) 01 Back Into The Studio 02 We Will Rock You / We Are The Champions 03 Taking Control 04 Sheer Heart Attack 05 The American Tour 06 It's Late 07 Spread Your Wings 08 My Melancholy Blues 09 Get Down, Make Love 10 We Are The Champions

Where ? I can't find it

link

Queenman!! wrote: Just one hour of footage presented on DVD and converted probably from PAL to NTSC

inu-liger wrote: Also, as tsskiller just pointed out to me in a private conversation, if they're using the Houston concert footage that was shot on video, then THAT would also have been shot in NTSC format to begin with, and therefore it would make even less sense to make this documentary a PAL encoded release.

Queenman!! wrote: but all the footage BOB Harris and his crew shot for the old grey whistle test is originally PAL format and that documentary was intended to be broadcast in 1977 by the BBC so it is converted to NTSC for this 2017 release.

GrowUpGlamberts wrote: Just a rumour, but it looks like a two disc set may be in the works, per a search on a French retailer's website: link (News Of The World 40th Anniversary Coffret - CD album, 2 volumes - 22 EUR)

GrowUpGlamberts wrote: Just a rumour, but it looks like a two disc set may be in the works, per a search on a French retailer's website: link (News Of The World 40th Anniversary Coffret - CD album, 2 volumes - 22 EUR)

matt z wrote: ^ it'll probably be the original album plus the live extras from 2011 ;-)

inu-liger wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: Just one hour of footage presented on DVD and converted probably from PAL to NTSC

I'm gonna say outright that it's very unlikely that they would convert film source material that's shot at 24 frames per second to a PAL interlaced rate of 25fps, just to convert it again to NTSC 29.97fps.

death to ming! 15176 wrote: Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but there's a version of the box set for release in Japan which features SHM-CD versions of the 3CDs. It's labelled as "limited edition," but it's 400 yen ($4) cheaper than the standard box set on Amazon.co.jp. The SHM-CD version is available for import for $261 in Canada on Amazon.ca, but 257 pounds on Amazon.co.uk (=$428 Canadian). By the way, it's currently cheaper for me to import from Amazon.co.uk than to buy from Amazon.ca with free shipping. I can't find information that the DVD will be NTSC and region free, though. Should I be okay with importing from the UK? Thanks to anyone who can help.

splicksplack wrote: What bloody world are QPL living in? I have an fantastic condition original NOTW vinyl, I have the remaster NOTW CD from 2011, I have the BBC sessions and on Nov.4th I will have a copy of the documentary thanks to the BBC. All I will lack is the book (let's face it, once seen then on the shelf forever) and it won't be long before the pics will be on the internet and generate my 2 seconds of interest per pic) and the raw sessions. And if they play hardball and don't make them available as an official download then I will obtain through other means. I'm willing to pay but will not be taken advantage of and forced to re-buy what I already have. Anyway, as Freddie said "it's only a bloody record". True, I'd prefer to donate the money elsewhere.

princetom wrote: did anybody consider THIS as the first part of a long promised "queen anthology" ?

Plengel wrote: My best guess would be to wait for its release on iTunes. The tracks that have been released so far, WWRY and WATC, are also available there, right?

Plengel wrote: The snippets from the raw sessions CD sound really great! I'm getting more and more excited for it and I'm glad I placed the pre-order for it. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's way overpriced compared to the content, but the set looks great! I will get it partly as a gift from my wife, so that eases the financial pain a bit. Can't wait to hear the full raw session tracks

NastyQueenie74 wrote: link samples

NastyQueenie74 wrote: Will it circulate to YouTube? I have no plans to buy it

conundrumme wrote:

NastyQueenie74 wrote: link samples

link

aristide1 wrote: Really, "Frederick" had a better voice than Brian?

aristide1 wrote: Thank Jesus ("Yeshua ben Yosef haNotzri" for those who prefer legal names) your educated guesses are free

aristide1 wrote: ... ben Yosef haNotzri

aristide1 wrote: otherwise I'd ask for my money back.

MercurialFreddie wrote: Does anyone know the mail address of Jim Beach (or his office in QPL) ?

Gregsynth wrote: I'd be more than willing to pay to have full Queen shows in that mono soundboard quality. It's still perfectly good sound. Just keep it raw and complete - and I'll buy 'em!

dysan wrote: Is SOTS two versions stuck together? Very slight change half way through? Not a criticism. Just an observation.

Oscar J wrote: I've listened through the "Raw Sessions". Some initial thoughts: * Freddie has probably never sung better and more creatively than right here. He could do anything with the voice in this studio shape. He is all over the place experimenting with the vocal lines and ad libs. He goes from absolutely soaring in It's Late, to to a breathy, soft, playful delivery on "Who Needs You". * The studio banter before and after songs, while interesting and sometimes amusing, feels a bit pasted in and sometimes enters before the song has even concluded. I feel like this will get annoying when you've listened to a track a few times. * I wish they'd stop using melodyne on Freddie, and so extensively at that. It's absolutely unnecessary; he is already held in the highest regard as a signer by almost anyone, and it's frankly a bit disrespectful doing that to a dead guys vocals and selling them as raw and genuine. Imagine other legends being auto-tuned posthumously like that - Elvis, Bowie, Lennon? Unthinkable! The mixes are nice in general, though the sounds is a touch brick-walled in the heavier tracks. Best tracks: Sleeping On The Sidewalk (Live), It's Late. GDML and Spread Your Wings are really good too.

cmi wrote: Does anyone noticed that DJ intros from BBC Session are upgraded on CD3 in comparison with 2016 'On Air' release? It was weak mono one year ago, now it's HQ stereo...

MercurialFreddie wrote: The use of melodyne is... well.. I cannot agree with what they do.. also as CMI noted, some of the tracks we know have been improved. To my ears the backing track of My Melancholy Blues (Houston 77') sounds better than it sounded on the NOTW 2011 Deluxe edition.

cmi wrote:

MercurialFreddie wrote: The use of melodyne is... well.. I cannot agree with what they do.. also as CMI noted, some of the tracks we know have been improved. To my ears the backing track of My Melancholy Blues (Houston 77') sounds better than it sounded on the NOTW 2011 Deluxe edition.

My Melancholy Blues from Houston '77 wasn't used for 2011 Bonus EP but it's indeed sounds better here than on 1989 'The Miracle' CDS because they used newly created track from better source (new transfer from SBD or videofeed master).

cmi wrote: Real mono... as SOTS live from CD 2.

NastyQueenie74 wrote: Prometheus Freddie Mercury has uploaded the raw sessions

NastyQueenie74 wrote: Prometheus Freddie Mercury has uploaded the raw sessions

matt z wrote:

NastyQueenie74 wrote: Prometheus Freddie Mercury has uploaded the raw sessions

Neat. Where? (*not a cheap skate. .. wasted $$ on QAL in 2014: pricey tickets) I might buy this set when i relocate to bigger digs. ....but the price is not warranted PM if need be. I really will only listen to it a few times and that's about it. Just curious about SYW. It's probably even on YouTube right now. This stuff is a cool curiosity. .. but doesn't warrant $200

conundrumme wrote: The backing track for MMB Houston Live is definitely crisper!

Pim Derks wrote: Love the raw sessions, but I doubt there's anything raw about them. Especially stuff like Fight From The Inside sounds like it's just Roger low-fi home demo vocal copied and pasted into the backing track.

Lord Fickle wrote: They have obviously been polished, and are far from "raw", but I'd rather have them like this then some shit sounding demo that you'd only listen to once.

*goodco* wrote: Don't mince words, Lord Fickle, how do you really feel about this release?;-)

Lord Fickle wrote:

*goodco* wrote: Don't mince words, Lord Fickle, how do you really feel about this release?;-)

It was my phone! ;)

Lord Fickle wrote:

*goodco* wrote: Don't mince words, Lord Fickle, how do you really feel about this release?;-)

It was my phone! ;)

raucousmonster wrote: On finally hearing Sleeping On The Sidewalk live I can see why it wasn't kept in the line up. It just didn't quite work but (to my ears at least) the reason seems obvious - it was in performed in completely the wrong key for Freddie! It was in the same key as the studio version or very close to it at least. So he starts off singing very low and realises that it's not quite got the edge of a typical Freddie live vocal so he switches to the higher octave which does works better until he reaches the higher notes of the bridge. It's ends up being a slightly confused vocal which smacks of under rehearsal. to me so I wonder how committed they were to its live performance. Which is a shame because the music sounds great and I think if they'd changed keys it would have been absolutely amazing live.

people on streets wrote: GDML is nice as well. Much better without the annoying middle section that made it on the album version.

AB-88 wrote: The 'Spread Your Wings' piano intro kinda reminded me of this: link

aristide1 wrote: King Crimson just released a massive 27-disc box set, Sailors’ Tales, including remasters, live albums, and concert films (from just 3 years of recordings). "The set includes new stereo remasters of the band’s three LPs from that time: In the Wake of Poseidon, Lizard, and Islands. There’s also a ton of live material, including an expanded version of 1972’s Earthbound, six CDs of Islands-era concerts from 1971 in Germany and the UK, and nine CDS of live recordings from a ’72 US tour (many never before released). Three other CDs include two previously unreleased and unidentified concerts from ’72, as well as recordings of the Islands band auditions. You’ll also get four Blu-rays and two DVDS, each featuring a number of live shows and hi-res audio of the CD material. The 12-inch box comes with a booklet; reproduced memorabilia; new liner notes from; and yet another downloadable concert." Priced at $190 and released November 3rd 2017. Crimson King takes White Queen. link

Rick wrote: Lots of disappointing people here and yet they still buy the frickin' box. Don't. Just don't. Why isn't the thing on Spotify btw?

GinjaNinja wrote: The piano intro for Spread Your Wings is the same as the coda heard on this convention recording of All Dead All Dead: link

aristide1 wrote: I know what you mean, but 40 years it's enough time to validate any creative decision embedded in the album, only because it's the original one. If SOTS would have been with Freddie, i bet you will consider that version as the right choice, and the one with Brian just a step in the process.

The Real Wizard wrote:

GinjaNinja wrote: The piano intro for Spread Your Wings is the same as the coda heard on this convention recording of All Dead All Dead: link

Nice catch ! And because it fades out at that exact moment, we can't know if it was actually an intro to Spread Your Wings or if it's flown in from another session or something. The joys of things not being labelled properly and being comped from various takes.

It's this insight into the songwriting process that is the most fascinating part of the disc.

The Real Wizard wrote:. But in the case of Queen, there isn't a single unreleased version of a song that's better than the final version (and I've hoards of them) - with the exception of the BBC version of Spread Your Wings.

The Real Wizard wrote: My favourite track is Get Down Make Love because it's the furthest of all the songs from the final version (...)

Lord Fickle wrote: It's a shame they thought of the stupid bit in the middle of GDML at all, as that also ruined the BBC version of It's Late.

user1 wrote:

It's this insight into the songwriting process that is the most fascinating part of the disc.

This is exactly what we do not get. There are no annotiations in the book regarding the recording process and we have no idea of how many different sources and takes the so called "raw" versions are cobbled together. What we get is a faked insight, crafted 40 years later. That's basically trying to rewrite history and counterfeit recordings that never existed back in the days. It's really a shame what QP delivers and the term "raw sessions" is just a big lie. I'd prefer having no "alternative" versions and waiting 40 more years for original historic recordings to this scam.

Sebastian wrote: I'd say I prefer 'Keep Yourself Alive' from both 1971 and 1975 to the 1973 version, even though all of them are really good. 'Football Fight' and 'The Kiss' were way better as the Munich demos in my opinion. Piano trumps cheesy synths anytime. The horn-less 'Staying Power' demo, with guitar harmonies and all. The raw (and in that case the term is accurate) 'Jesus' demo from 1971, with a much better drum sound. Highlander version of 'A Kind of Magic'.