| brians wig 30.09.2016 03:47 |
With all the speculation as to whether this has been added back to "OB" on the forthcoming release, here is a copy of it from a really old cassette dating back to the 70's/early 80's which I capped a couple of months ago. It's certainly the best I've ever heard but still hissy. No idea of the generation: OB itself certainly doesn't sound as clean as the previous Band of Joy release from '89. I also have no idea how many downloads mediafire will allow, so if it's deemed good enough, maybe someone could address that issue so more people can grab it? Also, if it IS good enough, and it's NOT been added onto the new release, maybe there is there an audio wizz who can clean it up so we can all create a full version.... link Oh. And no. The cassette only contained this one track. Sadly I don't appear to have any of the sessions recorded off air, complete with DJ banter in between (apart from Session 5 of course which we all have) |
| . 30.09.2016 04:07 |
Did you clip the beginning a bit? I seem to have a little bit extra on my copy. |
| brians wig 30.09.2016 04:11 |
Not that I'm aware of. At 2 seconds into what I've uploaded there's a blatant "cut/roll" noise which suggests to me that's the start of the recording. Am I wrong? How does it compare with yours, sound wise? |
| . 30.09.2016 04:23 |
^ I just did something rather un-clever. I accidentally managed to overwrite my file with your one! |
| pittrek 30.09.2016 06:10 |
Is it the "raw" transfer or my lame "remastering" attempt? And thanks for putting it here |
| . 30.09.2016 06:55 |
^ If you are addressing me, no it wasn't. |
| pittrek 30.09.2016 07:01 |
No actually I was addressing David :-) So wait, now when I downloaded the mediafire link, whose version did I download? Or did you just rename the DOWNLOADED file on your computer with the name of your ORIGINAL file? I hate being confused :-) |
| Nitroboy 30.09.2016 07:10 |
The Kurgan wrote: If you addressing me, no it wasn't. My file was not the same as the YouTube link, it just started off the same and was better quality. It's gone now though LOL! CTRL + Z to undo it |
| cmi 30.09.2016 07:31 |
I think it's very strange that 'Ogre Battle' was broadcasted in such unedited form... Certainly there are two takes of the guitar noise intro on this recording. The first one quite short and ends with the main riff without hi-hat count-in. Then there's a second take which ends with hi-hat count-in which is slightly off tempo (slower) of the main part of the song. Between these two takes I hear a tape 'rec' stop-start noise. Also, knowing live versions of 'Ogre Battle' song, it's quite strange that there's a gap between the intro and the main part. What do you guys think about it? Here's a merge which represents how the track 'must' have been broadcasted in my opinion: https://mega.nz/#!5E9RUY6S!NbogOCJIIxCeTzQ-ACOlDG-mt_OiehEMFMM115xNUC4 |
| brians wig 30.09.2016 08:23 |
pittrek wrote: Is it the "raw" transfer or my lame "remastering" attempt? And thanks for putting it hereIt's the raw transfer Peter. |
| . 30.09.2016 09:28 |
Nitroboy wrote: CTRL + Z to undo itDidn't work - nothing happened. |
| DJGreg 01.10.2016 03:43 |
brians wig wrote: With all the speculation as to whether this has been added back to "OB" on the forthcoming release, here is a copy of it from a really old cassette dating back to the 70's/early 80's which I capped a couple of months ago. It's certainly the best I've ever heard but still hissy. No idea of the generation: OB itself certainly doesn't sound as clean as the previous Band of Joy release from '89. I also have no idea how many downloads mediafire will allow, so if it's deemed good enough, maybe someone could address that issue so more people can grab it? Also, if it IS good enough, and it's NOT been added onto the new release, maybe there is there an audio wizz who can clean it up so we can all create a full version.... http://www.mediafire.com/file/rw0e881ypzwropb/Ogre_Battle_-_BBC_Session_-_Low_gen_Off_Air_-_complete.flac Oh. And no. The cassette only contained this one track. Sadly I don't appear to have any of the sessions recorded off air, complete with DJ banter in between (apart from Session 5 of course which we all have) It surely sounds pretty well, but the beginning is truncated with a couple of seconds. This could be the most complete recording, though with very crappy quality - link |
| . 01.10.2016 12:02 |
That version sounds like the one I had, only in much worse quality :-( I'll try stitching something together to re-create the file I managed to overwrite. |
| The Real Wizard 01.10.2016 22:01 |
The longest version of this should be over a minute long. It sounds like they do two takes of the guitar intro - about 30 and 40 seconds each. After the first one Brian does the bit of the Ogre Battle riff, then you faintly hear what sounds like a recording engineer, and then another take begins. |
| . 02.10.2016 04:19 |
The Real Wizard wrote: The longest version of this should be over a minute long. It sounds like they do two takes of the guitar intro - about 30 and 40 seconds each. After the first one Brian does the bit of the Ogre Battle riff, then you faintly hear what sounds like a recording engineer, and then another take begins.On the lower quality version you can hear that faint voice, on the better quality version you can't. |
| . 02.10.2016 04:30 |
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| calculon559 06.10.2016 00:53 |
My attempt at a complete version of Ogre Battle BBC version Both radio recordings from this thread were speed-matched to the '89/'95 official release then NR'd before being spliced in. https://mega.nz/#!oZJw1SiK!FYwGzffUXY8-NRwNkwLjJPdqA6wvO_fBF9S_6Rdm5xk |
| tcc 06.10.2016 01:22 |
calculon559 wrote: My attempt at a complete version of Ogre Battle BBC version Both radio recordings from this thread were speed-matched to the '89/'95 official release then NR'd before being spliced in. https://mega.nz/#!oZJw1SiK!FYwGzffUXY8-NRwNkwLjJPdqA6wvO_fBF9S_6Rdm5xkYV, this sounds like an official recording and deletion needs to be looked into. |
| . 06.10.2016 05:28 |
The gap and volume change at 1:24 always bothered me a little. |
| calculon559 06.10.2016 06:31 |
tcc wrote:If there is a problem, then by all means, delete that link.calculon559 wrote: My attempt at a complete version of Ogre Battle BBC version Both radio recordings from this thread were speed-matched to the '89/'95 official release then NR'd before being spliced in. https://mega.nz/#!oZJw1SiK!FYwGzffUXY8-NRwNkwLjJPdqA6wvO_fBF9S_6Rdm5xkYV, this sounds like an official recording and deletion needs to be looked into. Instead, here is JUST the intro, with less than 5 seconds of official audio afterwards so it can be synced properly. https://mega.nz/#!Ic5QBKJC!UG_lNYolNggBCSzLK0pL7p6jgBB46G4k_7Y4VMZ6sK0 |
| The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 00:07 |
calculon559 wrote:Nicely done !tcc wrote:If there is a problem, then by all means, delete that link. Instead, here is JUST the intro, with less than 5 seconds of official audio afterwards so it can be synced properly. https://mega.nz/#!Ic5QBKJC!UG_lNYolNggBCSzLK0pL7p6jgBB46G4k_7Y4VMZ6sK0calculon559 wrote: My attempt at a complete version of Ogre Battle BBC version Both radio recordings from this thread were speed-matched to the '89/'95 official release then NR'd before being spliced in. https://mega.nz/#!oZJw1SiK!FYwGzffUXY8-NRwNkwLjJPdqA6wvO_fBF9S_6Rdm5xkYV, this sounds like an official recording and deletion needs to be looked into. And FYI, this place is basically unmoderated. Have fun ! |
| The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 01:18 |
The Kurgan wrote:That's just because some heavy hiss reduction has been done, which resulted in a lot of lost audio information.The Real Wizard wrote: The longest version of this should be over a minute long. It sounds like they do two takes of the guitar intro - about 30 and 40 seconds each. After the first one Brian does the bit of the Ogre Battle riff, then you faintly hear what sounds like a recording engineer, and then another take begins.On the lower quality version you can hear that faint voice, on the better quality version you can't. |
| Barry Durex 07.10.2016 05:14 |
The Real Wizard wrote:But it can be heard on the lower quality version that has MORE hiss reduction.The Kurgan wrote:That's just because some heavy hiss reduction has been done, which resulted in a lot of lost audio information.The Real Wizard wrote: The longest version of this should be over a minute long. It sounds like they do two takes of the guitar intro - about 30 and 40 seconds each. After the first one Brian does the bit of the Ogre Battle riff, then you faintly hear what sounds like a recording engineer, and then another take begins.On the lower quality version you can hear that faint voice, on the better quality version you can't. Also, should that gap be in there or not? |
| . 07.10.2016 08:19 |
As regards BBC session 6. The session was broadcast in quad matrix H on Radio 1 FM in the UK on Jan 2nd 1978. Program Title - Jonathan King Rules (produced By Dave Tate) |
| OwenSmith 07.10.2016 11:38 |
The Kurgan wrote: That version sounds like the one I had, only in much worse quality :-( I'll try stitching something together to re-create the file I managed to overwrite.You mean you don't have backups? |
| The Real Wizard 07.10.2016 13:18 |
Barry Durex wrote:Ahh, then in that case it's probably an edit.The Real Wizard wrote:But it can be heard on the lower quality version that has MORE hiss reduction. Also, should that gap be in there or not?The Kurgan wrote:That's just because some heavy hiss reduction has been done, which resulted in a lot of lost audio information.The Real Wizard wrote: The longest version of this should be over a minute long. It sounds like they do two takes of the guitar intro - about 30 and 40 seconds each. After the first one Brian does the bit of the Ogre Battle riff, then you faintly hear what sounds like a recording engineer, and then another take begins.On the lower quality version you can hear that faint voice, on the better quality version you can't. Hard to know what the original version is, when these tapes are so high generation to begin with. But it seems like it should just be two consecutive takes with no gap. |
| . 07.10.2016 14:57 |
OwenSmith wrote:Not of everything, but I have material split over 7 hard drives and 2 PC's in the hope of avoiding a total disaster.The Kurgan wrote: That version sounds like the one I had, only in much worse quality :-( I'll try stitching something together to re-create the file I managed to overwrite.You mean you don't have backups? Shit will always happen though. |