QueenZone discussion #1457293

Schmelvin wrote: 1975-05-01 Tokyo, Nippon Budokan Hall (Pro Shot) b) 4 additional minutes of cut performances (SIS exhibition) c) 5 seconds of Pro-Shot Alternate Pro-Shot Angle seen in "Killer Queen" Documentary)

Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: "1975-07-24 - Blankenberge, Blankenberghe, Belgium (Gouden Leeuwen Festival)  - Belgian Award Show broadcasted on television. Some report hint at "Killer Queen" being mimed. " They only recieved the award they did not do a ilve or a mimed version of Killer Queen. Since this was a live broadcast on the BRT (VRT) no tapes were loaded into the camera's

Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: Killer Queen from Avro Toppop was shot 11-22-74 at the Bellevue Theater in Amsterdam. There are 2 versions the known one with the blocks. And a chromo-key screen version which wasn't broadcasted

Schmelvin wrote: 1979-01-29 & 1979-01-30 Rotterdam, Ahoy (Professional Recording) The soundcheck and an interview were filmed on the first night, fragmentary live footage from both nights was broadcasted on Dutch TV. Different Bits were also used in the Japanese "Jewels" TV Documentary.

Schmelvin wrote: 1974-12-19 London Bridge - Brian appearing on this ITV kids programme talking about his Red Special Guitar, broadcasted on December 28, 1974. 1976-12-xx Multi-Coloured Swap Shop - John interviewed by Keith Chegwin. 1977-09-03 Saturday Scene - Sally James' final show. Roger makes an appearance. 1978-02-14 Pop Quest (aired on 1978-02-22) Brian appears on this program talking about his Red Special Guitar

The Real Wizard wrote:

Schmelvin wrote: 1974-12-19 London Bridge - Brian appearing on this ITV kids programme talking about his Red Special Guitar, broadcasted on December 28, 1974. 1976-12-xx Multi-Coloured Swap Shop - John interviewed by Keith Chegwin. 1977-09-03 Saturday Scene - Sally James' final show. Roger makes an appearance. 1978-02-14 Pop Quest (aired on 1978-02-22) Brian appears on this program talking about his Red Special Guitar

Has any of this footage ever gotten out?

Schmelvin wrote: 1964-09-xx Isleworth Polytechnic College - Young Freddie, private 8mm film, roughly one minute in "The Great Pretender" doc 1969-02-27 Royal Albert Hall - Silent B/W Footage of Smile Concert filmed by Douglas Puddifoot, bits have appeared in several documentaries 1973-07-24 (air date) The Old Grey Whistle Test - Montage to "Keep Yourself Alive", using a cartoon from President Roosevelt's 1932 Whistle Stop Campaign. NOT the footage used in Magic Years etc (see 1978-10-30). Lost?

1974-02-21 Top Of The Pops, Seven Seas Of Rhye - First performance, without Audience. Widely available as a bootleg in slightly incomplete form. 1974-03-14 Top Of The Pops, Seven Seas Of Rhye - Second performance, with Audience. Widely available as a bootleg in nearly complete form.

1974-03-31 Rainbow Theatre, London (10 min Pro-Shot) - "Son & Daughter" & "Modern Times Rock n Roll" with overdubbed vocals. Send out as promotional films mainly for Japan, but also televised on TV channels throughout Europe. - Issued on "Live at the Rainbow 74" DVD/BluRay in 2014 with original sound.

1975-01-30 Top Of The Pops, Now I'm Here - exists????

1975-05-01 Tokyo, Nippon Budokan Hall (Pro Shot) a) 20 minute documentary with Press Conference, Tea Ceremony (filmed before the show in late April) and 3 full songs b) 4 additional minutes of cut performances (SIS exhibition) --> 5 seconds in ex quality seen in "Killer Queen" Documentary

1976-09-18 London, Hyde Park - Complete Pro Shot Show (81 min) -> "Sweet Lady" (Broadcasted on the Old Grey Whistle Test (see 1976-12-16), The Midnight Special (US Television 1977) and released on A Night at the Opera DVD) - Pro Shot Show - single wide angle (full show exists?) - Silent outtakes and pre-concert footage filmed with an 8mm camera.

Schmelvin wrote: 1977-06-06 London, Earl's Court (First Night) - Pro Shot, 119 Minutes, Full show with mono audio in circulation. - Excerpts shown in various documentaries, with different angles!

1977-10-06 New Royal Theater (We Are The Champions Promo) - Standard Promo (with Extra Guitar)' - BBC Version (Top Of The Pops) - BBC Version with full color intro - Flix Version (Standard Promo with Album Version) - Different Ending (Shown on VH1, differently edited ending, very strange) - B/W rushes & B-Roll footage also exists, mostly from the Bob Harris Crew.

1977-12-10 Fort Worth, County Covention Center Arena Some backstage footage from Fort Worth and interviews are seen in "The Champions" (US TV 1979) and "Magic Years Vol. 2" documentary. (see above)

Schmelvin wrote: 1979-01-29 & 1979-01-30 Rotterdam, Ahoy (Professional Recording) The soundcheck and an interview were filmed on the first night, fragmentary live footage from both nights was broadcasted on Dutch TV. Different Bits were also used in the Japanese "Jewels" TV Documentary.

1979-02-27 Paris, Pavillon de Paris 1st Night 1979-02-28 Paris 2st Night 1979-03-01 Paris 3rd Night * Pro Shots of all three shows were made * A 65 minute Bootleg Cut of all three shows is in circulation * From the first night only Freddie's greeting has surfaced * Nearly everything of the other shows is floating around in varying quality * Portions of the other shows can be seen in the bootleg cut, "The Champions", "Champions of the World" and "Rare Live"

1979-04-24 Tokyo, Nippon Budokan (First Night) Pro Shot, few seconds, Freddie w/ Banana Hair. There are other brief clips in the "Love of my life" promo and various documentaries from this show.

1979-04-25 Tokyo, Nippon Budokan (Second Night) 32 Minutes. Pro Shot. About a half hour of footage from this show was broadcast on Japanese TV. Many other bits appeared over the years on "The Champions" (1979 TV Special), "Rare Live" and via iTunes amongst others.

1979-12-26 London, Hammersmith Odeon - Concert for the People Of Kampuchea Complete show was filmed professionally, 75 minutes of varying quality are in circulation. Different edits have been aired on german, japanese and us tv stations as "The Queen Special" (see below)

pittrek wrote:

Schmelvin wrote: 1964-09-xx Isleworth Polytechnic College - Young Freddie, private 8mm film, roughly one minute in "The Great Pretender" doc 1969-02-27 Royal Albert Hall - Silent B/W Footage of Smile Concert filmed by Douglas Puddifoot, bits have appeared in several documentaries 1973-07-24 (air date) The Old Grey Whistle Test - Montage to "Keep Yourself Alive", using a cartoon from President Roosevelt's 1932 Whistle Stop Campaign. NOT the footage used in Magic Years etc (see 1978-10-30). Lost?

Source? Of the claim that it's different from the Dead on Time montage. Also, a few seconds of a cartoon train were shown in a documentary claiming it's from this montage (again with no proof).

1974-02-21 Top Of The Pops, Seven Seas Of Rhye - First performance, without Audience. Widely available as a bootleg in slightly incomplete form. 1974-03-14 Top Of The Pops, Seven Seas Of Rhye - Second performance, with Audience. Widely available as a bootleg in nearly complete form.

Are you sure about the dates? Didn't GT claim years ago they're all wrong? Also, I was under the impression that the available footage is complete.

1974-03-31 Rainbow Theatre, London (10 min Pro-Shot) - "Son & Daughter" & "Modern Times Rock n Roll" with overdubbed vocals. Send out as promotional films mainly for Japan, but also televised on TV channels throughout Europe. - Issued on "Live at the Rainbow 74" DVD/BluRay in 2014 with original sound.

Maybe it's worth noting that a MUCH better copy exists in BBC archives, it was used years before the official release in a documentary

1975-01-30 Top Of The Pops, Now I'm Here - exists????

Well. it was shown on the 2011 exhibition, so ...

1975-05-01 Tokyo, Nippon Budokan Hall (Pro Shot) a) 20 minute documentary with Press Conference, Tea Ceremony (filmed before the show in late April) and 3 full songs b) 4 additional minutes of cut performances (SIS exhibition) --> 5 seconds in ex quality seen in "Killer Queen" Documentary

b) is a part of a)

1976-09-18 London, Hyde Park - Complete Pro Shot Show (81 min) -> "Sweet Lady" (Broadcasted on the Old Grey Whistle Test (see 1976-12-16), The Midnight Special (US Television 1977) and released on A Night at the Opera DVD) - Pro Shot Show - single wide angle (full show exists?) - Silent outtakes and pre-concert footage filmed with an 8mm camera.

Now wait a moment. There are 2 or 3 audience 8mm shot, but they're all from the concert, not pre-concert footage (OK, one contains clips from also other bands before Queen). So if you are talking about the "standard" pre-concert footage, what's the source for the 8mm claim if I can ask?

pittrek wrote:

Schmelvin wrote: 1977-06-06 London, Earl's Court (First Night) - Pro Shot, 119 Minutes, Full show with mono audio in circulation. - Excerpts shown in various documentaries, with different angles!

This is interesting, could you go into more details about the different angles please?

pittrek wrote:

Schmelvin wrote: 1979-01-29 & 1979-01-30 Rotterdam, Ahoy (Professional Recording) The soundcheck and an interview were filmed on the first night, fragmentary live footage from both nights was broadcasted on Dutch TV. Different Bits were also used in the Japanese "Jewels" TV Documentary.

Are you sure it's a mix of both nights?

Schmelvin wrote: "Bits of soundcheck footage were broadcast on TV in 1979. Some brief segments of the fast We Will Rock You, Let Me Entertain You, and You're My Best Friend (dubbed with the studio version of Don't Stop Me Now) were seen as well. It is worth noting that this concert footage may be from the second night in Rotterdam. Freddie is seen with sunglasses during the first song, but an 8mm film captured from the audience reveals he didn't have sunglasses on when he made his initial entrance. It is possible that the band weren't happy with the quality of the footage from the first night (see below) and asked the crew to come back on the second night."

Schmelvin wrote: 1974-11-07 Top Of The Pops, Killer Queen - newly discovered, can be found on "Days of our Lives" DVD/BluRay missing the first verse and most of the first chorus

The Real Wizard wrote:

Schmelvin wrote: "Bits of soundcheck footage were broadcast on TV in 1979. Some brief segments of the fast We Will Rock You, Let Me Entertain You, and You're My Best Friend (dubbed with the studio version of Don't Stop Me Now) were seen as well. It is worth noting that this concert footage may be from the second night in Rotterdam. Freddie is seen with sunglasses during the first song, but an 8mm film captured from the audience reveals he didn't have sunglasses on when he made his initial entrance. It is possible that the band weren't happy with the quality of the footage from the first night (see below) and asked the crew to come back on the second night."

Ha, wow ! The things I've forgotten about on my own website...

Schmelvin wrote: I should have pointed out that those excerpts have only partial and brief alternate angles. The video for "Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy" on the US Greatest Hits has some shots not present in the common bootleg cut. I thought the same about "Brighton Rock" in the 1995 Queen Phenomenon Doc, but upon viewing it again, most edits seem to come from other songs of that night.

Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote: 1980-xx-xx interview is filmed at the LA forum

Ghostwithasmile is BACK! wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Schmelvin wrote: "Bits of soundcheck footage were broadcast on TV in 1979. Some brief segments of the fast We Will Rock You, Let Me Entertain You, and You're My Best Friend (dubbed with the studio version of Don't Stop Me Now) were seen as well. It is worth noting that this concert footage may be from the second night in Rotterdam. Freddie is seen with sunglasses during the first song, but an 8mm film captured from the audience reveals he didn't have sunglasses on when he made his initial entrance. It is possible that the band weren't happy with the quality of the footage from the first night (see below) and asked the crew to come back on the second night."

Ha, wow ! The things I've forgotten about on my own website...

Only one night was filmed by Avro quite sure !  Could it be that the amateur 8mm has got thenwrong date tagged to it ?

Barry Durex wrote: Has the 24 minute version on your website (with screen shots) been shared?

Schmelvin wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Has the 24 minute version on your website (with screen shots) been shared?

It's on the bootleg DVD "The 8mm Collection". 21 Minutes long.

The Kurgan wrote: Hoarding under orders should be a criminal offence. Anyone who does that is a spineless jellyback. I take it you have it then? ;-P

Killer_queenIII wrote: Didn't the same thing happen with the Mexican concerts?

The Kurgan wrote: Actually, I think we should go one stage further. Name and shame.

The Real Wizard wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: Hoarding under orders should be a criminal offence. Anyone who does that is a spineless jellyback. I take it you have it then? ;-P

Ha ! I wish...

Panchgani wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

The Kurgan wrote: Hoarding under orders should be a criminal offence. Anyone who does that is a spineless jellyback. I take it you have it then? ;-P

Ha ! I wish...

If hoarding under orders is a criminal offence, does that make David Fuller a hero? Is blacklisting a leaker a criminal offense? Is it hoarding when something is shared within the trading community, but not shared outside the trading community?

Sue Dounim wrote: Is that a man with a video camera on the left in this photo from Leiden '84?

The Real Wizard wrote:

Sue Dounim wrote: Is that a man with a video camera on the left in this photo from Leiden '84?

Sure, it's entirely possible. Good catch !

cmsdrums wrote:

The Real Wizard wrote:

Sue Dounim wrote: Is that a man with a video camera on the left in this photo from Leiden '84?

Sure, it's entirely possible. Good catch !

Or is it Freddie's piano??